Arauna

11 hours ago, Dmitar said:

eople here for a long time including the people you defend here, @Arauna, @Thinking, @TrueTomHarley, @JW Insider, @Pudgy, @Witness, so forth and so on, thought you are a Unitarian Christian,

I did not - so do not talk for me.

Space Merchant thank you for your graciousness- appreciated. 

1 hour ago, Space Merchant said:

Jehovah’s Witnesses refuse to separate church and state

This is a lie - Christendom is always taking sides in wars for their states or countries.  Most of their people take sides in every conflict.  On the other hand we do NOT take sides and you will NEVER see us meeting heads of states in official church regalia.  We do not even take part in discussions on TV.   The Pope represents a state and even has his own diplomats.  And owns one of the richest banks in the world....... the previous Pope abdicated quickly when he was going to be held accountable for the bank's money laundering.  He never leaves the Vatican because he can be taken into custody.  

So you have not thought through your statement clearly.

Just remember both sides are part of the wild beast!  And they do act like beasts - bloody and with cunning.

16 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

religious leaders of Babylon's ranks

Orthodox are killing orthodox Christians. Hopefully many people start to see this connection. The Nazis are ones who want to keep the country separate with nationalism.  

8 hours ago, Thinking said:

I’m thinking this is a personal decision

What is gather is that the GB warned brothers to leave Ukraine and it seems there are no longer safe corridors to leave.  One should leave as early as possible.

If America warns its citizens it is because they fear harassment or even worse from Russian citizens and the government. Our brothers may leave and spill over the borders a.s.a.p to get away from the persecution. 

America is not yet in the war and does not intend to join officially (only supplying arms) - but then consider, they did not intend to enter any of the previous world wars. 

Alliances are being made - smaller countries are being forced to say on which side they are on.

Depopulation agenda....and so much suffering.

God of Magog is NOT the King of the North - it is the total coalition of nations who will turn against Jehovah. 

This above scenario may happen now but on other hand  it may take some time and then Russia will out with all its forces when Jehovah feels the time is right (messages from east and north). 

We are inching closer!  I think they will make announcements  to the globe....to create peace and security.  They want to WHO in control of the UN and get all nations to sign.  

Russia assisted Armenia in the war against  Azerbaijan - it was over in one week. The drones Azerbaijan received from Turkey decimated the army equipment of the Armenians received from Russia.

I see now that Ukraine has Turkish and American drones - which can actually fly higher than those of Turkey.

21 minutes ago, JW Insider said:

I thought this one was useful:

As I said before, it is a financial war and the poor Ukrainian people is the pawn. 

This is a documentary about the change of currency and what ensues before this happens .....

By the way - they call it Nazi but I understand it to be nationalistic to extreme like in Germany....

Just now, Pudgy said:

ood time to review the series of Mel Gibson’s “MAD MAX” movies

I have not watched them - but if they are about a crazy world -then it could be some reality check

5 hours ago, Thinking said:

In other words how is this going to play out..

Some more conjecture from my side. The American dollar is sure to fall and they need a reason for it.  This war could provide the opportunity.  (This war could become another Afghanistan for Russia... linger on... until they make a treaty with UN fanfare).

There are two poles to what is happening in the world.  King of North and South.  They push until the END it seems BUT king of North and its allies will control the wealth. 

⁴²  And he will keep thrusting out his hand against the lands; and as regards the land of Egypt, she will not escape. ⁴³  And he will rule over the hidden treasures of gold and silver and over all the desirable* things of Egypt   “But reports out of the east* and out of the north will disturb him, and he will go out in a great rage to annihilate and to devote many to destruction. ⁴⁵  And he will plant his royal* tents between the grand sea and the holy mountain of Decoration;*r and he will come all the way to his end, and there will be no helper for him.  ( These reports are from Jehovah and Jesus at the right time when the South has progressed enough to prove that it is the debased DRAGON the bible says it is.

In the West they will bring in their new money system - which is also a surveillance system ... thousands of satellites are being put in the heavens above as we speak. Those who do not obey the new system will be put in prison?  Does this sound crazy?  I do not think so.  That kind of power can go to a person's head. 

So as we do not take sides in this war - we are aware of what is coming and should prepare for it.

5 hours ago, xero said:

Just who these nameless, faceless bureaucrats in Brussels are and how they are personally benefited is not known to me.

These bureaucrats are not the ones who benefit - they are just willing foot-soldiers who benefit because they are obedient to the dictates of those who are in control of all the money / corporations - who have formed a  coalition with the UN. (The get their good salaries and stability).  As we speak WHO is becoming the most important body in the UN and America has signed to give them total control..... I have not seen if other countries have joined.  If you see something, let me know. 

I just saw this - It is an interesting perspective

https://greatgameindia.com/ukraine-crisis-germany/

On 3/1/2022 at 2:19 AM, JW Insider said:

's just my personal opinion, but discussion can help a Christian be informed. A person might think that in order to be neutral, it would mean that we should state that the policies of India in 1948, or Peru in 1943, were just as good or bad as the policies of Hitler's Germany in 1941. Neutrality does not mean we remain so uninformed that we can't tell the difference, or that we can't distinguish good from bad, or bad from worse, or mediocre from less mediocre.

Jesus called Herod "that fox." Is it really wrong for a Christian to discuss why Jesus might have called him that?

In Acts, Luke discusses political corruption, a possible bribe that Felix was looking for, and a political motive for some of his actions:

(Acts 24:24-27) . . .Some days later Felix came with Dru·silʹla his wife, who was Jewish, and he sent for Paul and listened to him speak about the belief in Christ Jesus. ²⁵ But as Paul talked about righteousness and self-control and the judgment to come, Felix became frightened and answered: “Go away for now, but when I have an opportunity I will send for you again.” ²⁶ At the same time he was hoping that Paul would give him money. For that reason, he sent for him even more frequently and conversed with him. ²⁷ But when two years had elapsed, Felix was succeeded by Porcius Festus; and because Felix desired to gain favor with the Jews, he left Paul in custody.

Was Luke being non-neutral in exposing some political motives and corruption?

Someone could argue, that all of those examples are history, or that the examples had a direct effect on God's people. But then again, what happened last week, even yesterday, is also history. And Jehovah's people are still being effected by world events.

thank you! well set out!

On 3/1/2022 at 2:40 AM, Space Merchant said:

for there is no stopping a man who is on his last burst of wind to do what he needs to do to support his family

On one of the islands during the gulag period there was NO food.  People first ate young children and then the soft parts of women.  Family ties were totally forgotten...  Humans who do not believe in god become savages. The German people still walk around with psychological wounds because of what happened in Germany duting WW2.  What they do not realize is that whole of mankind is badly flawed and it is only by God's grace that people can resist and show self-restraint to not go along with the crowd who have the power to do these things. 

On 3/3/2022 at 2:55 AM, Thinking said:

Every government head is dirty..absolutely filthy.dirty with the blood of their own people….I wish people could understand this more

They are not accountable to Jehovah's standards of justice and morality.  They initiate secret wars, do gross experiments on citizens without their knowledge, stage false flags, use propaganda to sway the masses against each other.... unimaginable financial corruption, treason, purgery,  etc. and this has been in so-called democratic countries. We are not even talking of the deaths in countries where organ harvesting and other terrifying atrocities take place.  

The US surgeon general has now asked for all names of people who spoke against the "sleever" on social media - asking it from tech companies. They will start to watch people. 

The new kind of rule coming to this world is to terrify people into submission and obedience. Hence, in the end, many will succumb to worshipping the image of the beast and the beast itself.

2 hours ago, Dmitar said:

uneducated person is you, since my response

Both of you said the same to each other but which one has a record of bad behaviour?      I would be able to listen to you much more if you were not so consumed with anger by the smallest triviality and go on to revile anyone who does not agree with you or dares to point out that you are being rude.

We all have personal flaws - that is obvious - but your lashing out  makes it very hard for me personally to take you seriously because any communication with you becomes a very unpleasant experience.  

Do you know the science experiment with mice? When a big mouse plays with smaller ones, and he wins all the time and does not let them win now and then..... then they avoid him..... they no longer want to play with him.

There is a lot one can learn from a mouse- brain. 

2 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

hich isn't too far from the Bystander

Interesting.....  I will watch out for this development in India in the news reports.  I do know that Putin has already informed PM Mohdi that some of the Indian students, who were studying in Ukraine, have been collected and are being used as human shields.  Apparently they have 5 universities which specialize in foreign students... from Africa and India. 

I would like to add that since JWs do not take up arms or defend themselves they most  probably will be termed as having ' bystander effect'.  The reason being that Jehovah says : ¹³  Then Moses said to the people: “Do not be afraid. Stand firm and see the salvation of Jehovah that he will perform for you today. 

Because we follow the instruction in the bible and carry no arms the coalition of nations will come up against the people of God because it seems as if they have no protection and can be plundered.

Ezekiel 38: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “On that day when my people Israel are dwelling in security, will you not know it?q ¹⁵  You will come from your place, from the remotest parts of the north,r you and many peoples with you, all of them riding on horses, a great assembly, a vast army.

I will bring my judgment against him* with pestilencey and bloodshed; and I will rain down a torrential downpour and hailstonesz and firea and sulfurb on him and on his troops and on the many peoples with him.c ²³  And I will certainly magnify myself and sanctify myself and make myself known before the eyes of many nations; and they will have to know that I am Jehovah.’

26 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

Saudi Arabia         

This country has been linked to the dollar exchange rate since the 1970's but the dollar is also failing due to the fact that Saudi Arabia has made a deal with.... wait for it... Russia.  They are now bargaining on being protected by Russia.... no longer USA. 

What puts USA in a further bad spot is the fact that they are importing some of the fuel from Russia - which is going to skyrocket fuel prices in USA.  Biden , in accord with Agenda 2030 has not given permission for new fuel lines and has closed down some in USA. 

It is all about the great financial reset: the future one world government of the UN and WEF. The dollar is on the verge of collapse and with a "Russian"  cyber attack it will be plausible reason to blame Russia for its woes and when people are suffering financially they will be ready for any new suggestion to stave off the pain.  The central banks of Europe are apparently not doing well and when Germany is cut off from Russian energy supply, their industry sector will suffer and it may start the Euro downward spiral. 

Russia has its own equivalent of SWIFT which it uses with China and Iran.  This war was instigated by the globalists because they want the money system to collapse. (This does not mean that Russia itself is not a bad player - all politics is ruthless and does not care who it hurts in the process as the wars in the middle east has proven). Russia has sold its dollars and is still invested in Euro and about 2,000 tons of gold.  China apparently has double that amount of gold but is not letting on.  It seems the new exchange currency may become the yuan.

Economic downturn will lead to suggestions of the UN to broker the peace and introduce a new monetary system.  We know UN will rule for only one hour and in this hour it will force all to get its mark and worship it and will not tolerate dissent.  I think it is in this time it will turn against religions - only a uninformed guess. 

10 hours ago, Dmitar said:

ople are behaving no different from those foolish witnesses back in the 70s.

Speculating on prophecy in peace is better that to continually pull other people apart and looking for unchristian spats.  I usually ignore you now but thought I must just tell you that you are looking for spats all the time - a genuine troll!

Putin has requested these three requests for a peace settlement:

1. “the recognition of Russian sovereignty over Crimea
2. the fulfillment of the tasks of demilitarizing and
3. denazifying the Ukrainian state and ensuring its neutral status.”

2 hours ago, Anna said:

organized criminals already have guns

I think many people who have an ax to grind with enemies will shoot each other during chaos.  I am not naïve as to the capabilities of lawless people. 

On 3/1/2022 at 5:08 PM, Anna said:

KON supposed to make its appearance in the last days? (

There is only one king at a time which represents this king "“In the time of the end". Germany hated Jehovah's people, thereafter Russia relentlessly persecuted Jehovah's people.

The king of the south was firstly : Britain (the 7th head of the wild beast that received a sword stroke -), in order to continue with the war they needed USA to enter the war and then the Lusitania was conveniently sunk.  

22 hours ago, Anna said:

why did Putin fall for it?

The security of Russia was threatened.  Russia has asked several times for negotiations about this but he never received an answer. (Sound familiar?)  Not only were continually bombing his neighboring states but apparently there were hostile airplanes doing nuclear maneuvers 14 km from his borders (not in western press).

There is already calls for the UN to take this up and please broker a peace and UNITE the world!. I guess they will want Putin to capitulate some things.  This will bring us closer ever closer to the New world order dispensation of Klaus Schwab and WEF