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Arauna

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  1. 9 hours ago, JW Insider said:

    But hopefully not just from sources who get their news from the "I Love Trump" style media, like the video you shared.

    I do not watch any news of trump - I read or listen to anything (distancing myself) which gives me clues about what is going on internationally with the UN.   I am not (against or for) any things which pertains to America.  Most people watch pro-progressive or pro-Trump stuff.  I do not! I doubt trump will ever have a chance again - the global criminals will put a stop to that!  Like they did before!  If an article mentions either Biden of trump - I ignore it.  I listen to what they say about the NWO.   Trump is very naïve - he is a businessman and was tricked by Fauci into a government EMERGENCY situation where the CDC, FEMA and FDA emergency laws go into effect.  Biden on the other hand is not a fool - he has been in government 40 years (heavily financially compromised and a life-long politician.) The UN and technocrats behind the scenes who were installed in the Obama era (who are all pro-UN One world government) is providing all the decrees he is signing.  But these people running things now are ruthless and even the high court has been compromised by money (their appointments were theatre).

    The UN is already ruling in a fascistic relationship with the WEF and projecting their "image" on the world....  and the Global corporations of the WEF.  They all are legally bound to obey the WHO etc.  This is why we see these weird instructions which benefit the pharmaceutical industrial complex. Medicines with old patents and are now generic drugs - their effectiveness are vilified and false studies published about it.

    By the end of the year we may have another black swan event - Russia or China will be blamed for all the banks going off-line ( they are already planning it now).  They want to bring in a centralized digital banking system linked to UN private banks.  If they do not get their plans completed in this time - they will wait a bit longer and try again!  Their plans are for the long-term.

    The ONE world religion has been on the cards for a very long time! To tell you the truth , I really did not know how they would pull it off because Islam believes it has to rule the world.  But somehow the carrot that they held out  makes them think that they will  get away with being the only religion in the end....... which I would not put past the blinding of  Satan!  ......Whether it works or not - this does not matter because the Pope has his busy nose in everywhere - promoting LGBTQ, getting rid of the priests who do not comply with the new morality, getting politically involved with Agenda 2030 and lobbying other religious leaders .  Yes - they have been ruling but they may get their hour to shine! and ride the beast! ...... but then the UN will turn against them.  We know that Jehovah will step in and make them turn against all religion in the end and then the entire financial system will collapse.

     

  2. 2 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    experience of the two cannot be compared in any way.

    But you see it was not about experience - it is about obedience.  Satan had eons of experience and turned against god.  The issue is not experience.  One can have little experience - but if you trust God - you have more experience than any other creature!

  3. 1 hour ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    could be concluded that it is very likely that free will means the wrong choice.

    did you not read that Jesus was the equivalent of Adam but chose to obey instead of following his own way/choice. Through one act of disobedience Adam lost everlasting life for humankind and through one act of loyal self-sacrificing love and obedience , Jesus saved humankind

  4. 1 hour ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    Why no one came and told Eve and Adam; The snake is lying

    The bible says Eve was deceived - Adam was not!  That is why the bible says : though one MAN sin came into the world!  Adam received his instructions directly from God. He could see that god was a god of generosity, there is love in creation , he himself wanted for nothing ..... But he deliberately chose his own way - like Satan. 

    Satan and Adam both rebelled against god - like children sometimes do and ruin their lives in front of their parents eyes by abusing drugs etc.

  5. 6 minutes ago, JW Insider said:

    kind of facility in Abu Dhabi or anywhere else in the world.

    I think you must do a little more research. The designs have already been presented...... and the ground is available.  The pope has been very busy pushing agenda 2030 - everywhere! (together with LGBT and other policies which is part of agenda 2030).  He is a great proponent of UN agenda 2030 which includes the charter of the UN - to bring peace and security to the world. He is riding high on the back of the scarlet colored beast - for sure - and so are his co-signees.

    The Abrahamic Accord was signed as an agreement (with Jesus not mentioned in the document at all )- only one creator.   ..... Although any agreement can be broken - so far the Abrahamic Accord  (as it is called) is still valid.  It may later be used as a tool to bring one world religion - such as Russia is using its religion to unite the country - this could start off as an interfaith movement for all and lead to the destruction of religious differences as we know it today.  Those who do not comply may find themselves persecuted at a later stage!   

     When I said more than two years back that a totalitarian government would come ...  you personally poo-pooed any thought of this.... so now to you are still denying what is happening in front of your eyes......? The pope recently visited the top Shia cleric, Al Sistani, in Iraq  to negotiate with him. 

    As I said before - I think you are good at repeating what other people have written - but often do not see what is in front of your eyes.  And while I am a theorist - at least I can speculate about where things can lead to.......The world government that is now gaining power is a totalitarian one....(the agreement with WEF and UN two years ago makes it a fascistic one)  and is determined to get its way.  Many US laws and international laws have already been broken and hence - they will not let anyone stand in their way.  They have one "thought" as revelation indicates.

    USA almost has a totalitarian state - and many of the other Western countries too! Who will stop these people from ousting all other religions to bring in only ONE approved religion (such as China has been doing). The way China brought it in is this:- China brought in only government approved religions and persecuted all the other religions and maligned them (i.e. Falun gong and Islam) and slowly (bit by bit)  the previously approved government religions have also been replaced with  worship of only the state.  It is a slow process .... but this is how they slowly do it. Catholic churches at first worked with the government and then were infiltrated by government spies who appointed all caridinals etc..  The bible was rewritten by the State and now - in the place of the Jesus icons - a picture of xi jinping is hanging!

    The take over is complete! It is pure idol worship approved 100% by Satan!

     

  6. 15 hours ago, Peter Carroll said:

    there must have been alot of trust around then

    Adam was perfect - meaning he was perfect to the extent that he could have passed the test.   Jesus was a mere man ( like Adam) and passed the test.  Jehovah had enough trust in him to make the right choice. 

    After we have passed the test as perfect people we will have proven that we want to remain faithful to jehvoah and can be locked into a relationship with him by eating the tree of life. 

    It was a very simple test that Adam failed to fulfill.  Soon we will face much harder tests as imperfect individuals but jehovah will support those who want to and choose to stay faithful.  We will not be tested beyond what we can bear.

  7. 13 hours ago, BroRando said:

    not put his hand out and take fruit also from the tree of life and eat and live forever,

    This means he had not eaten from it before - and Jehovah now took his opportunity away to eat it. 

    After the thousand years the bible indicates that those who pass the final test as perfect people (like Adam and Eve ) will get to eat the tree of life.  What is so hard to understand that.  Unless you read fallacies on other religious websites. I notice you quoted a Muslim website.

    Since I know this religions well and its absolute inconsistencies I think you should stay away from those!

  8. 47 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

    earth, is "protected" from sin.

    If Adam and angels were protected from sin we would not have free choice...... free choice means you are not programmed or entirely protected from your own will.  Protection and guidance is two different words.  I am sure the angel who was in the garden of eden was supposed to give guidance and  physical protection from harm but betrayed his commission and the trust in him in the most gross way

     

  9. 10 hours ago, Peter Carroll said:

    in the spirit realm,

    This is why it is a universal issue - because a spirit son was thinking bad thoughts before he acted upon them and then enticed eve to sin - just like he enticed Jesus - who did not bite.

    Jesus came down from the spirit realm and became lower than angels and in this form answered Satan by his actions.  Satan and his demons were condemned by jesus' faithful obedience to his death. He also saved imperfect men from the same fate.

    Satan acted like Judas - he had unfaithful thoughts and acted upon them. James 1 : 13 - 15 applied.

  10. 9 hours ago, xero said:

    Only women carried water jars.

    Since the written piece indicates that they went into the gate used by the Essenes and Essenes carried their own water (because they were celebate men) it is therefore logical to conclude that the apostles were only 12 men and it therefore would not have been so out of the ordinary for a man to carry water for men who were meeting alone in the area where the Essenes lived.  So I would not call this an apologetic piece for Christians,  I would rather call it a piece written against Christians, to disprove the truth of the new testament. 

  11. 13 hours ago, Peter Carroll said:

    den was then  not under any form of protection so sin could have occurred at anytime

    We are not protected from sin and neither was Jesus - We obey Jehovah by choice... we are not robots or automatons.  Adam made a choice not to obey Jehovah.  Jesus made a choice in every situation he was in - to obey Jehovah. Through one act of disobedience adam broight sin and though the act of ultimate obedience Jesus gave life. (Romans)

    Yes the cherub was anointed for the job to protect Adam.  Anointed means he had Jehovah's approval when he was appointed . He could have given moral and physical protection BUT the choice was still Adam's. The tree of good and bad indicates that Adam had to choose to obey Jehovah's right and wrong (morals)himself.  When Satan grew haughty and wanted the worship for himself he turned against God and abused his position of trust. 

    Just like cherubs were often present to protect the nation of Israel - for example when they were rebuilding the temple - I am sure that angels will be there to protect us also in the new system.

    In the new system under the "tent" of protection of Jehovah we will also have protection.   Jehovah uses his angels for this important job. They will also be messengers and assist his people as they are doing now with the preaching work.

    They are at present 'holding back the winds' of total anarchy and destruction until the anointed are sealed and the great crowd has come out of all mankind. 

  12. 14 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

    claim their mental health was harmed

    They are greedy - how can their mental health be harmed?  It is like these transgenders who claim their mental health was harmed because someone did not use the correct pronoun!  Wake up dears! Court cases can be won on anything these days because there is not more justice - that is - I do not know if you have noticed this yet?

    Jesus was led like a lamb to the slaughter by false claims from the Pharisees.  If you are so blind that you cannot see through this ruse above - you are really far gone!

    We expect these kinds of things coming our way - and the closer we get to Armageddon the more bizarre the claims will become...... Russia is known for their church scholars who have banned our bible because it has the name of Jehovah in it.   and all their other bizarre claims!

    Have you not read Revelation 17 and 18?   That the blood of the holy ones are on the hands of Christendom and the world empire of false religion -  the DOM in Christendom stands for DOMAIN - the ruling class of the Christians. Those who imposed themselves onto Christians and rule like real kings.  Not a few elders who try to correct their brothers when they lead others astray.  Those are the true oppressors of truth and have usurped Christianity and have much power to destroy lives and lead them directly to worship Satan!

    have you seen the new world government interfaith movement? The religious leaders are proponents of this and the Pope is openly promoting the UN Agenda 2030. 

    Look up on internet under Abrahamic agreement for peace....  One world religion.  There is a split in the catholic church about this. last year they signed agreement in Abu dabi for the facility there ..... 

     

  13. 2 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

    We all sin Mr Rando. But those who give themselves authority should be more careful before they deliberately sin. 

    We all sin - some sin to the extent where it is human error and others to the extent where they become apostates.  Some do not agree and some become direct opposers.  Some criticize and others appoint themselves as self-righteous judges...... and what does the bible show when you judge?   You have put yourself in the place of GOD!

    Read what James has to say about this.  

  14. 15 hours ago, BroRando said:

    disobedient state. There was Opportunity for them to do what is Right and partake of the tree of life, they simply choose not too.... Satan knew that Adam and Eve would positively die! That is how Sinister Satan is!!

    Adam and Eve knew what was right and wrong BEFORE they ate of the tree of good and bad

    Unfortunately many JWs are not aware of this - not taught well.  We have free choice as a gift from jehovah..... We can can choose to do so many things as long as it remains within the "right and wrong" boundaries of Jehovah..... that is: in every situation one has choice to do the morally correct action in line with your conscience, holy spirit and the principles of from jehovah. Adam and eve had the inclination to do what is right..... until they seared their conscience

    How do we know Adam and eve understood right from wrong? Morality?  Jesus was a perfect human on earth. He was surrounded by thieves, revilers, prostitutes and even satan who tempted him...... but he was not tempted to do  wrong but in each situation CHOSE to do the right action. He never seared his conscience, did not speak from his own origin and did not violate the law - not because he was programmed to do what is right but because he exercised FREE WILL and CHOICE. Could he have sinned? Yes..... but he exercised his choices in the most difficult of situations - setting a wonderful example for us.

    So what does it mean that "adam became like us " knowing good and bad........ it means that they have made themselves like God to choose their own morality - they rejected the good and bad limits jehovah had set on them. From this point forward mankind was doomed because they would now rule themselves and create religions and philosophies to manage societies. All would fail to bring true peace, security and happiness. 

    Soon the outcome of Adam's wilful choice of independence will reach the final conclusion:  We have freedom in everything but jehovah created us to be part of him.... to do this we must remain within the moral boundaries he set for us, stay close to Him in his love and remain Holy. But we will do this by free will because we realize that to choose to be separate from him will distort us.  We are free and yet bound to Him  in a loving way. 

    Jehovah is not a dictator. He wants us to realize that we should choose by free will to willingly choose his moral values because it is the only beneficial thing for mankind. Only if all people willingly show self-sacrificing love like Jesus can we bring happiness and harmony to earth. Self-sacrifice means that we will not use our free will to be selfish, choose out own way or ne hurtful to others in any way.... 

     

     

  15. 3 hours ago, Witness said:

    priesthood into the dust, into an unclean state before God.

    Accusations, accusations like Satan. It is merely your opinion..... God had tremendous patience with the Israelites but sent them into exile because they were not keeping the Sabbath years, divorcing their wives and taking foreign wives, they were breaking  the laws of God by taking property off the vulnerable, defrauding, divorcing and corrupting justice for the poir apart from all the disgusting false gods. 

    I have seen no practice of this.... so you are more than a false accuser.... but I leave God to judge that. ....

  16. 9 hours ago, BroRando said:

    garden including the tree of life to satisfaction.

    I do not agree with this statement.  from the insight: The expression tree of life is used with regard to true wisdom, the fruitage of the righteous, the realization of a thing desired, and calmness of the tongue; it is also associated with the crown of life. (Pr 3:18; 11:30; 13:12; 15:4; Re 2:7, 10)

    They were put outside the garden because they had eaten from the tree Jehovah said they may not eat. There is no way he would guarantee their everlasting life if they had not passed the test. The tree of life did not have inherent life-giving properties in its fruit - BUT it represented gods guarantee of everlasting life to those he would allow to eat of its fruit  Gen 2:9; 3:22

    Your speculations are not correct my dear

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