Arauna

1 hour ago, BroRando said:

JWs have been brainwashed into thinking that a person can only be a True Christian if that

That is only a false accusation. If we really had a decent discussion and not just OCD accusations , you may just discover that your statement is false. Logical thinking is not your forte - that is why you always just attach in a blind fashion - which is the crux of your MO. False assumptions and baseless blanket attacks. 

3 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

that I stand against God

I did not say you stand against God. I said against Jehovah. .... there is a difference you know! 

1 minute ago, BroRando said:

there is no such thing as (Hellfire) The her buddy WITNESS claim

Witness has been on here a loooong time. (patience has not been on here so long).  I do feel bad because I have no more patience with them ..... because they are such deceivers.  I actually prefer to go on the "closed side"  right now so that I need not deal with these kind of pathological people.

I accidentally stumbled on here again. I prefer the other side where there is a better spirit to deal with.

49 minutes ago, BroRando said:

never hear you complain about child abuse about the Catholics or Baptist.

He is obsessed with the GB (ad will use any excuse to get at them) ... that is why I call his mental illness Hate-OCD...... it is not a normal obsession against child abuse because, as you say, he will be having a war against all organizations who are really actively involved with this and have actually approved this!  There is a present a split in the Catholic church because all the good priests are losing their jobs and the immoral priests are running the show....  I am sure he is not on their websites trolling them!

4 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Being a victim myself gives me e

You wanted me to change the subject by feeling all sorry for you.  It was a bad ploy to use on me and then you try to shame me for calling you out! lol.... I have suffered a lot in my life too - very nasty stuff but  it has made me kinder to the true underdogs and also less quick to judge others on face value!

Good for you that you have a little sympathy for others......even if you acquired this quality only by your own suffering....  Your hardline stance against Jehovah does not seem to credit you as capable of deep love... your blanket and false accusations show you up for who you are!  You have been measured and your hate has made you to be found wanting, my dear!

1 hour ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Being a victim myself gives me empathy for other victims

I knew you were playing that card,  I do not like to be manipulated by a viper.

20 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

I was put into a Children's Home and sexually abused,

Who do you blame for that?  The GB? - most probable you will..... someone has to suffer because of what happened to you, HEH?  Your own poison is worse than the abuse you suffered.  You will never be healed from what happened to you because of your poison.  You were a victim .... but remain one......because you bring pain to other innocent people....

1 hour ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Leaders of your organisation have brainwashed all JW into believing th

hate-OCD in action!  Ignore the above.  It is the same as all the other comments! 

Just now, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

JWs here on this forum are not in unity, i

Yea, People like you are here... so of course it does not look united. I can name a few very controversial people on here who are apostate and make us look disunited.... lol.... I wonder how you could not figure that out for yourself?  Either you are handicapped in some way or wish to ignore what is front of your eyes...... 

I am happy to hear from our brothers what is going on in Russia.  I have seen videos where they  stage the Russian raids  like theatre in Russia.  They go into the homes like the brothers are real terrorists (with guns) and everyone in the street gets this theatre so as to be frightened of our brothers. They know our brothers do not have guns or do not vote but they do this to make everyone hate us.

Why should we translate the court documents?  We can rather use our time to preach! 

Those who want that kind of research can have them translated. 

It is enough to know that the orthodox church (hate for Jehovah's name) and nationalism is behind this hate of JW's.  If you want to know more about this please investigate what alexander Dugan says about the orthodox church.  His Eurasian nationalism and love for the orthodox church has brought in this new philosophy of church to build a national identity!  Putin, all the Russian generals and leaders listen to his advice. 

6 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

should re-read my comment above

Hate-OCD again. Blanket Accusations and more blanket empty accusations  - without substance. 

2 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

hey lied about "Millions now living will never die", because they all died. 

You obviously did not understand what you were reading because this is a false accusation... MMMM Millions now living may never die but may live through Armageddon.

2 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

because you worship those 8 men who have power and control over you.

You do not know what control is. Like a typical spoilt  child which attacks without thinking.... tut tut... You have NOOO clue what  true control control is.  

2 hours ago, Pudgy said:

evidence of virtue, righteousness, and steadfastness

changing the subject!  There is a big difference between showing virtue and being a nation over the entire globe!

5 hours ago, the Sower of Seed said:

manure spread from person to person here,

Some urinate all over the precious truth as revealed by Jehovah to his people...... but jehovah will soon make their houses into privvy houses.  ... I recently read that scripture again somewhere.  .... Yes, we cannot talk against our own best interests by going against jehovah's wishes. 

 I often feel I am too outspoken and should tread more carefully too.... for in case someone gets the wrong impression about the Truth.  But as you say there is enough manure here that can colour the cleanest class of truth. 

I noticed recently the scripture you quoted said        " with" spirit and truth. I thought about it and realized that we must also be connected to jehovah by His holy spirit. If we are outside his approved presence here in the forecourt of his temple on earth then we will not walk by his Spirit.

1 hour ago, Pudgy said:

because they almost never happen at all."

True. Miracles are rare.  I would say a miracle is an unexplained event which has extremely beneficial results.  That is a good definition.  Now compare that to the miracle of Jehovahs people unitedly and in bonds of love are only promoting His ruling Kingdom.  ..... while the whole world is in a state of growing violence, disunity and anarchy. 

3 hours ago, Pudgy said:

do not see hard evidence

I totally understand.  You will se miracle happening in front of your eyes and will turn around and say: "it should not have happened on the sabbath!"

2 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

retend you are a Brother, is soooo funy, but @Arauna has fallen for it.

Frankly, I do not care if Scholar is someone else with a double personality or this one is that one is not who they pretend to be!  I say what I think ... and agree here and there....... I do not fall for personality or for so-called scholarliness ......so leave  my so-called gullibility our of it!

6 minutes ago, Pudgy said:

would show some kind of evidence that is not invisible

How about the miracle that there is ONE nation on the entire planet which is united? ,,,,, while the rest of the world is getting more and more divided.  Israel had an uncircumcised heart and did not recognize some of the miracles in front of its eyes!

What about preaching about this kingdom rule in the entire world! Mth 24:14

9 hours ago, Witness said:

You would know that (John 1:18) reads "No man has Seen (theon) at Any time"

You cannot see a difference between theon and theos (One means God and the other a god.)  Some languages have a different letter to show indefinite article (a) and some omit it all together to show indefinite - such as semetic languages.

5 minutes ago, BroRando said:

we do know the hour and the day

True, we know when Jesus started ruling invisibly and we know we are deep in the time of the end... but the Day of Jehovah is getting closer as the alert watchman is seeing signs of activity by the enemy.  But the actual Day of Jehovah is still a mystery!

9 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

God must include the GB and their Lawyers the

Now tell me you do not have hate - OCD.  Same MO over and over.....

3 hours ago, JW Insider said:

He said to them: “It does not belong to you to know the times or seasons

Scripture taken out of context:   “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?”i ⁷  He said to them: “It does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction.

They were not even yet anointed when they asked this question.  They would understand things better a little later once they received holy spirit. 

Down the stream of time we have enough other evidence and many prophecies to help us to see where we are in the stream of time right now!  And talking about "seasons" - Jesus  also referred to the budding fig tree.   One can know the season (but not the day) when the fig buds.   Of course the TIME was too far off for the 12 apostles because the Messiah had just arrived!  - they would not understand.  Further down the stream of time disciples would be able to understand the season is ripe with the fruits (signs). 

This does not mean we will ever know the DAY and HOUR because only Jehovah knows when the issue of human rulership has been proven to be devastating to mankind  beyond reasonable doubt and requires his intervention. This we do definitely not know!  We can see we are here (the season has arrived) but we do not know how deep this tribulation will be allowed to develop.  By all indications things are really speeding up! The figs are getting riper and riper and the pregnant lady are in birth pains every minute and will not go onto 12 months! LOL. 

The watchman must be standing on his post and keeping alert! 

One of the largest banks in China failed this week. (Lehman brothers type). Soon USA will have food shortages and energy crisis!  The tribulation is growing and fear for the future!

T deny what is in front of your eyes is to deny that figs can get ripe!

39 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

go and put your head back

definitely - it is useless to throw pearls before the dogs - ta-ta

On 9/14/2021 at 1:05 PM, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Oh dear another doom and gloom picture, to frighten people.

I can tell, you quote the bible but have not read your bible in quite some years!  When I read Revelation, I see doom and gloom for those not offering up pure worship to Jehovah and SURVIVAL for those who do worship in Spirit and truth,,,,,  So the good news amplifies for those who want to be obedient servants and brings joy, which is a fruit of the Spirit of god.

7 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

now the lies that the Watchtower / JW org, have told

Seems you are also a person with hate-OCD........ H...gh ... one recognizes these kind of people so fast... because they always attack when there is a breaks down in the logical thinking....  this is the MO.