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19 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Jehovah and Yehovah

Yehovah is the same as Jehovah - the first is hebrew and the second english - same sounds.  If you know any other languages you will know that the first thing one learns is PRONUNCIATION!  The Hebrew Y   is the same sound as english J

17 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

why the woman/anointed body of Christ flees to the wilderness.

This woman is NOT the anointed  (the bride is spoken of betrothed to christ) but this same heavenly woman is prophesied in Genesis 3:15. She would bring forth the SEED that eventually would crush Satan's head!   Paul calls the main part of the seed - the Christ.  So this seed christ comes from this heavenly woman. So does it refer to an earthly woman or a heavenly one?  Well - since Satan also has heavenly seed - or angels who fight against the heavenly SEED of Jehovah it stands to reason an earthly woman does not have power to fight spirit beings.  So this is a heavenly woman that is often spoken of in the bible as a wife of Jehovah and he is her husbandly owner.   It is his heavenly organization from where Jesus came to earth.   

8 hours ago, Pudgy said:

How many was it necessary for the first century Christians to know ?

The true Christians survived - so they did not just know - but they obeyed.  Some of those prophecies apply to today - so it depends how we understand (know and OBEY.

7 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

The harvest" was already over.

No - because the wheat is the anointed and not all the anointed were collected in Jesus's time.  Matthew 13 shows that the wheat and the weeds must grow together until the ' time of the end'.  Then Jesus will gather the wheat out of the world and during Armageddon - he will destroy the weeds.

5 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

the things being said here may be true

You assume the role of supreme judge and executioner.  I may believe you if you can identify any other religion which can take our place.  The test?   Which religion preaches the Name of Jehovah and carries the name of Jehovah.... Please answer this question without hypocracy!   

42 minutes ago, BroRando said:

it is riddled with man-made organizations that suck the life out of nations

I did not say if their values are good or bad.  It is one of the most corrupt organizations on earth.  All their cultural organizations have been pushing the transgender and transhuman agendas...... satanic values.

15 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

those still against her, she will attack.

Babylon as the world empire of false religion - the beast she is riding now will turn around and attack her (The Pope is now one of the largest proponents of Agenda 2030 together the the WEF). The beast that Babylon the Great is riding will  attacked her (UN).  If you read Revlation 17 and 18 you will see that when the image of the beast turns against her - the world economic system will collapse. I think the are speeding up UN agenda 2030 against all costs. ... so the disastrous events may happen one after another and may pan out sooner than we think. 

Saw a headline today - UN working with BIG Tech to make list of all those who they deem to be enemies of the NWO, their goals and moral values.

4 hours ago, BroRando said:

ack the urgency that 2034 is only 13 years away

This time goes past quickly.  A lot of suffering is waiting for the world.  More people will die die from the virus and its associated therapies than ever imagined.. and by 2030 the UN wants its plan ( Agenda 2030) to be completed.  I hope Armageddon comes quicker because a terrible tribulation is waiting for the world under a new world government which tolerates nothing except its own concept of what the new world order under their dispensation should be.  These people are heartless and violent -like their aitheist God.  You will not be able to buy or sell food if you do not comply.

So like Habakkuk we will wish for it to be here while we suffer ..... but it will come.

4 hours ago, Kick_Faceinator said:

like a Canaanite taking the emblems a

You did not read matthew 13.  So I think our discussion is over.  You speak of things you do not understand..... just judge without sufficient knowledge.... There is another name for that but I leave this here.  I do not argue with a Baal stone.

45 minutes ago, Kick_Faceinator said:

Jesus comes back the man of lawlessness will be presently sitting in the temple

it is those who say they are anointed by taking the emblems whenever they feel like it in the churches..... they who sit in the place of god as judges and treating the true wheat badly.   Read the last part of matthew 13: 24 - 29 the parable of the weeds...... satan sowed into the original congregation weeds - and they grew until today.  Read the parable....

1 hour ago, Kick_Faceinator said:

lawlessness sits in the temple of God

When did this happen?  When organized religion became an empire in the second and third centuries CE.

7 hours ago, BroRando said:

You can expect a ton of persons to become immediately interested in the Bible, once we stop offering New Bible Studies.

We will offer bible studies and will only stop this work when we become the only target set for destruction in agreement with Ez 38 - when Gog of magog see we have no protection and attack us. When they completely are in the Holy place. This will be after the "man of lawlessness" has been exposed and Babylon the great (religion) been outlawed.   When we stop bible studies/ preaching it will then be too late for anyone. No knowledge of Jehovah will no longer be available. The time when you will not find truth and darkness ruling the earth will be here. Our final message will be one the governments do not like!

Before the UN declares "peace and security" we will see a totalitarian-like regime where one cannot " buy or sell " if you do not do what the authority tells you to do. 

20 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

as your words that caused my comment. 

No - you show hate-OCD without anyone motivating you to do so!  The poison comes from your own heart! Do not use your warped psychology on me!

3 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

so that congregations own nothing.  

I did not know that you wanted to own a kingdom hall?  

3 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

they hate to pay out compensation to victims

You are obsessed with money - and judgment ....... 

9 hours ago, BroRando said:

They sent me some notice that I violated their terms.  But never mentioned which term was violated.

They do this with everyone who speaks the truth as well.  That is why corporations are ensuring that no negative things are said about the "prick in the arm -thingy" which is now being promoted as the best thing ever! Satan is running this world now with deceit and propaganda.  Revelation 16:14 - 16 says that it is propaganda which leads to Armageddon.  The propaganda is given is in neo-commie style.  In China one may only "speak" what the state allows you to speak.  Well "soft-totalitarianism" is here in the west. The governments are now working with media corporations and other corporations according to the WEF agreement made 2 years ago with the UN.  They will soon cut all information which they view as "untruth".  All the fact checking corporations are already under their control.  People will be fed untruths all the time (crowd control).  This is how they will eventually turn against Babylon the Great (all religions) when they feel safe enough to do so - when they feel they have enough control. 

That is why we cannot trust any political organization or any other organization that makes money in this system.  They are all corrupt. Satan is openly running everything right now and all the cockroaches are coming out of the woodwork.  Only Jehovah can be trusted. 

8 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

No one needs to prove that.

Really logical from you !  That explains a lot!

6 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

didn't know God had made you His spokesperson.

You said everyone had an agenda!  And I said that if you follow only God then the agenda is ok.  Do you mean to say I am wrong ?  That one can have any agenda and be acceptable to God? Please explain yourself better!

6 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

So the Watchtower/GB/JW Org will always be wrong b

Says the expert! I bet you cannot prove why they are wrong! You will need some other person on here to try to prove it!

8 hours ago, Pudgy said:

almost EVERYONES' thinking is agenda driven.

As long as most of your imperfect  thoughts are in line with the bible, in Jehovahs eyes that is OK!   Other agendas in his eyes is a no-no. 

9 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

react as "overemotional female" and Genesis 6:6,

Women are imperfect and act on imperfect hormones.  God has regret..... but this is not as strong as repentance, remorse and the other emotions inbetween.  God does not make mistakes. Regret indicates that  human  actions made God  change his mind as to their future....... 

One can read your own emotions into the bible if it suits one. 

No doubt, God was very disappointed and all mankind justly deserved destruction. Because God is a God of life it was really regretful to have to do what justice required. ... to destroy. 

1 hour ago, xero said:

It's pushing the idea that false religion has from the beginning fostered the idea of evolution because it's originator also believed the same (or

Satan can promote the idea pf evolution without believing it himself.  it is called propaganda.  He knew god existed but was rebellious and did not obey the creator

55 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

And 1914

1 hour ago, Srecko Sostar said:

not be in such a difficult emotional state,

God was grieved because he does not want any to die.... But he is logical and knows and allows for personal choice.  There is a few times he was grieved but he always did the righteous thing. You read to much in it - to call it a "state". ... it seems like you compare god to an overemotional female.

1 hour ago, Srecko Sostar said:

universe is there life except on Earth and around a God surrounded by angels.

The angels are a different life form - but still Jehovah created them.  There IS a universal issue playing out because the wicked angels were also proved to be wrong when Jesus died.  That is why jesus went to show them that he had been resurrected!  Jesus came from 'heaven' and showed integrity till death as a human - taking a life form lower than the angels.  This means that his loyalty to Jehovah condemned all perfect (heavenly and earthly creatures) who deliberately sinned and saved those imperfect humans who put faith in the ransom sacrifice. 

29 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Someone want to spend some time looking into this?

A long time ago I did.  Jehovah is not overcome by anything wicked and cannot do evil - but it does not mean that he did not foresee the possibility that Adam could sin. He knows all.  The whole world is wicked right now and the thoughts of people are wicked all the time just  like before the flood - but Jehovah has the capacity to look to the greater issues and tolerate this and yet he knows about all of it.  It does not  affect his perfection or his justice

44 minutes ago, Pudgy said:

Wrong again.

The Physical Universe was designed to be self-sustaining.

Jehovah is working until now......... But he was resting from his creation.... so what was he working on?

All physical matter is energy...... whose energy?  ... or where did it come from?  If you do not understand this then you do not understand basic science. While much of it is self-sustaining it depends upon Jehovah's energy to exist - to be there. 

Immortality means that they receive their own source of life.  Nothing else is immortal - all depends upon jehovah to live.  The earth is a living entity with so many forms of life which are sustained by jehovah!