Arauna

I was speaking of all JW videos.  It has the copyright symbol next to it which is the sign that it belongs to a company or intellectual ownership. It is intellectual theft to take someone else's work and modify it. 

1 hour ago, Pudgy said:

Why did YouTube take them down?

I think it is copyright issue.  people can take the video and distort it and put it up with apostate ideas.  These days they can do anything with videos.... so I think the GB want to keep things private and secure. They must have asked for it to be taken down.

Just now, Pudgy said:

Scripture clearly states that it never came into Jehovah's mind that they would do such a thing

It does not mean that he did not foresee the possibility.  The same with Jesus - he moved amongst harlots and sinners.  He often must have seen the possibility of doing wrong but he immediately shunned the ideas such as when Satan tempted him. 

Being perfect does not mean we cannot see the possibility of something - but the perfect person is moved by choice and chooses correctly. and morally

6 minutes ago, Pudgy said:

time and space are one thing

Time and space is dimensions of the physical universe which Jehovah created. jehovah created the entire universe with his dynamic energy according to Isaiah 40 when talking about the stars by name he speak of the energy or power which brought them forth.  This power is his active force - a moving energy or force. All physical matter consist of energy.  Burn anything on this planet and it emits energy.  Jehovah's energy also keeps all in place and alive.  If he removes his energy the entire universe will collapse.

Other dimensions are non-physical - where angels can move faster than the speed of light. 

There are different forms of energy in our universe - magnetic, positive, negative energy and gravity is a force

20 minutes ago, Pudgy said:

to mean "I Am", o

This is a wrong translation. In Hebrew and Arabic " existence" is always implied in the verbs.  So the causative verb and hollow verb refers to him always existing before, currently existing and existing in future. Or proving who he is in future.

24 minutes ago, Pudgy said:

Moloch truly surprised even Jehovah, and that he learned new things from that,

No - he was not surprised, just bringing justice for the large numbers of of children murdered  in the name of false gods.

Evolution can also mean - change to something which already exists.  We know that Babylon the great stands for all religions which were spawned from the renewed rebellion against Jehovah led by Nimrod and the institution of false religion in opposition to him. Babylon was the capital city of this rebellion being built in opposition to God and was the originator of many false doctrines in most religions i.e. immortality of the soul.

35 minutes ago, Pudgy said:

.if you win!

You are absolutely nuts if you think you can win anything!  However, Jehovah is just  and allowed the rebels to show what they can do - so that everyone can see both sides of the issue.  Jehovah does everything out of love and justice. We are free to choose whatever we want to do - as long as we do it in a just and moral way (morality is the good or bad choice).

 Not our own morality but Jehovah's morality.  He gives us Social studies 101.  He knows how society should function so no person hurts another.  If we follow his principles - no-one will hurt each other in any way and still have total freeedom! 

2 hours ago, xero said:

knowing he is his creator" is actually not specifically stated in scripture

 James 2¹⁹  You believe that there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder.t

They believe - implies they know he is the creator - the only true god.

2 hours ago, xero said:

i the Sumerians, 

This is the new philosophy pushed by scholars - that all religions evolved.  The worship of the demons of half-gods  is based on the stories and subsequent worship of the Nephilim. They built the Tower of babel to get closer to heaven... and these demons were associated with the stars etc. So the was an origin for these beliefs and then it grew.  Evolution implies it came from nothing. 

The bible indicates that Satan knows that Jehovah exists and shudders - but he does not obey.  It is like a child that is on drugs and destroys his own life in front of a parent. 

Satan has seen the power of Jehovah - but it is rarely used destructively. Satan is the father of death and destruction, lies and deceit.  He knows that Jehovah is his creator but will spread lies to humankind about it.  Anything which takes away the honor from Jehovah whether it is atheism or false philosophy

12 hours ago, Matthew9969 said:

Weak minded thinking would be a better title for you.

What we have seen of your writing really makes us feel inferior when you call us weak minded ... lol.....you obviously over-rate your own mental powers.

4 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

It is also evidence of an attack on the personality of forum participants

What a joke when you have hate-OCD all the time with irrelevant attacks! The pot calling the kettle black Heh?

3 hours ago, John Houston said:

seemed tricky at first,

Yes - they are deliberately tricky and deceitful.  

2 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

8 men tell you to believe

Once again - do not project your crazy preconceived ideas onto me!

2 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

You are so upset

Don't project your unbalanced feelings onto me!  I do not fall for your pseudo- psychology! 

On 7/13/2021 at 10:11 AM, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

must have caused mental health problems for many

Funny!  It seems that those who turn against Jehovah have more mental health problems than anyone else! And the first thing to go is their sense of logic....   quite well demonstrated here in the hate - OCD.

12 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

We will have to agree to differ on this. 

I am not surprised!  if people cannot even understand that different illustrations lead to different conclusions - then their world is pretty one-dimensional. So yes, I leave it at that!  

On 7/14/2021 at 4:53 PM, JW Insider said:

he harvest is great, but the workers are few.

How can you clump two different illustrations together?  The one about the wheat is not about the great harvest in Matthew 9 On seeing the crowds, he felt pity for them,i because they were skinned and thrown about like sheep without a shepherd.j ³⁷  Then he said to his disciples: “Yes, the harvest is great, but the workers are few.k "

This is like mixing up the story of Red riding hood and cinderella together to bring it to a similar point.  

The biblical illustrations are there to illustrate different points and not to clump together in ONE idea.  It is sad to see that there is so little depth in understanding.  Go and read them both again  - please!

1 minute ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Christian and a lover of God and Christ, I forgive you.

Truly noble of you considering all the other hate you throw around freely! 

6 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

half of this forum as being hateful OCD,

Only the characters I have come to know who have the same attitude as you do - that compulsive hate...... there is never a balanced way in the thinking processes ....... it is never ever positive. Always the modus operadi smells foul. 

On the other hand I do not always agree with JW Insider and have accused him of other stuff but never of hate-OCD.  That is a special designation for people with specific personality traits.  So - you have that assessment wrong as well! 

16 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

So also in my own opinion you [Thinking] and Arauna show more emotion than practical thinking

This is a reply to the person who made this comment the first time!  Not for Tom!

I come across as emotional because I have a strong way of expressing myself.  I am South African.... but believe me your logic and rationality is not more than mine - so you must have more female hormones than I do.... lol.

7 hours ago, Thinking said:

The demons are very active on forums …it gives them the voice that Jehovah took from them.

Spot on observation. A chance to show doubt and hate. It is clearly part of all the propaganda now leading to Armageddon.  

3 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

s for your point of 'not genuine interest in learning anything from anyone', then it depends on your viewpoint.

Don't play superficial games with me - I see through the OCD

3 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Tom you seem unwell spiritually.

Psychological tactics... lol.  Does not work on adults that think straight.

3 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Could this be the removing of 'the ones causing stumbling and practicing lawlessness'

The man of lawlessness is not part of Jesus' kingdom. The man of lawlessness is part of the bad seed sown by Satan. 

The bad seed grew for almost 2 millennia together with the fine seed until the 'conclusion of things'. There is no doubt that the man of lawlessness will be revealed. There may be individuals who pretend to be part of the wheat which are not - and will be destroyed - but as christ's bride - the remaining wheat (anointed ) will receive their reward.

1 hour ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Could this be the removing of 'the ones causing stumbling and practicing lawlessness' within the JW Org ?

It seems you only apply the pieces you want to.

When Jesus was on earth he gave this illustration. Jesus planted the fine wheat - sons of the kingdom.  Satan sowed weeds in amongst the wheat in the time of Jesus.  Greek philosophy and pagan teachings together with those who were bringing in immorality into the congregation was already visible in the congregation in time of the apostles. The apostles wrote about this in their letters - warning brothers against the wicked.  For example: one man was removed from the congregation for sleeping with his mother.

As soon as John died t(and even before) he bad seed got a foothold in the congregation ( the bad seeds were already there) for the creation of powerful Christendom. Christen-dom is religion with political power. The creation of the Roman catholic church and its powerful leaders ruled for centuries and were responsible for the dark ages in europe.

Jesus said that they must let the true wheat and the bad seeds grow together until the time of the end. During the dominion of false Christendom many true wheat were murdered.  People such as Wycliffe, Johannes Huss - and people like them -  were burned on the stake and tortured for translating the bible.  THese could have been anointed people and part of the wheat. 

As Daniel indicates - near the time of the harvest people will start to investigate the word of god close to the establishment of the kingdom.  This happened after the secular renaissance. When the power of the church started to wane a little people started to independently research the bible.  This gave opportunity to spread the truth and the inspection of those professing to be the wheat took place as Mal 3:1-3 indicates.  The wheat was cleansed.

Jehovah had a people for his name on earth again who did not learn war any more Isaiah 2:2-4 

"Mal 3 : ¹⁷  “And they will be mine,”y says Jehovah of armies, “in the day when I produce a special property.*z I will show them compassion, just as a man shows compassion to his son who serves him.a ¹⁸  And you will again see the distinction between a righteous person and a wicked person,b between one serving God and one not serving him.”

Soon the wheat and the imitation wheat will be separated and the imitation wheat be destroyed. The "man of lawlessness" will be revealed.  For example many churches are making the new morality acceptable and the pope is pushing  the LGBTQ and UN Agenda 2030.  The harlot is riding the beast just like before but she is blatant about it and thinks she is riding like a queen ... that nothing can happen to her. Orthodox religion is standing up against the governments and getting involved in politics (also riding the beast in different way). False religion is starting to show their true colors by following political agendas - they have the mark of the beast - politics.!

3 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Tom choses to lump many of us into some 'following' or other,

That is the impression I also have.  A bunch of people who have hate-OCD and come here to troll.  There is not genuine interest in learning anything from anyone!  You are merely here to waste our time..... deliberately!