Arauna

These things are really happening but the apologists for China here on this forum do not understand how information is suppressed in these countries... it is leaking out even under heavy death penalties for citizen reporting......and by the way it is coming to the entire world. Neo -communism is spreading. Why do I call it communism? the purpose of Marx was to subvert ALL religion so that no person may get any redemption of god. To destroy all family values and morals..... Marx wanted revenge on God on a world-wide scale. I listened to some of his poetry today and his purpose is stated absolutely clear in his poetry. .... He wanted the whole world in the hands of Satan. How do those who love atheism and materialism intend to do it? By materialism. They promise everyone a utopia where everyone will have the same stuff. Nothing for the soul.... just stuff. ... But with it comes oppression which destroys all old culture (like Mao se Tung destroyed the real Chinese culture in China and replaced it with materialism.) Now the last step is total mind control - no religion and worship only of the state. We are on our way to this outcome in the West on a pretty fast track. a totalitarian system where everyone will be forced to accept the state morality (no religion allowed) and only worship of the state. Daniel 11 from verse 36. Not even love of "women " allowed....... rings a bell with this transgender culture.

You just don't get it....... do you? And don't bother with more cursed name calling....... it rolls off our backs. Cursing others is not a valid rebuttal........ lol. You sound very desperate when you call us names

I have said no such thing! I am an ordinary pensioner - to your standards a nincompoop because in your mind all JWs are idiots. ...... the only thing I am better at than you is: I think things through step by step. This has helped me tremendously in my life. Nature had tremendous foresight or predictive skills: almost godlike in scope By coincidence, not only did the male develop perfectly and separately from the female but also developed in perfect compatibility - each with different functions (eggs/sperm and many other differences) which complement each other perfectly; they developed simultaneously and yet separately by chance and were ready for each other at the same time. Did nature 'plan' to develop both sex organs perfectly at the same time/ because it ‘knew’ what the species needed to survive? These gaps are too many for logic conclusions – it favors blind belief on the part of evolutionists. Additionally, if nature “knew ahead of time” how to cut and paste selected bits of DNA from other genera to duplicate the same functions in a different species together with totally new genes – does this not prove that nature has intelligence which can ‘decide” which parts to ‘cut and paste’ or save from one operating system onto another? Are evolutionists not simplifying the process so much that they are like a toddler who can shut his eyes to what he does not want to see? To me - these coincidences are unexplainable miracles. Some evolutionists do acknowledge they still have NO leads as to how the sexual organs came to develop so perfectly in synchronization – yet function so differently while developing separately. Mathematical logarithms do not explain away the extreme complexity of the biological and chemical processes involved. Logarithms merely try to explain it away by “chance or possibility” without taking into consideration the extreme complexity of the chemical building blocks themselves. This enlarges the pool of possibilities to “zero”. If evolution were true: would nature not have selected the easiest way to survive instead of such a complex way (2 partners) for the species? Would it not have kept both sexes in one unit for better survival of the species such as found in simpler life forms? When one looks at the numerous different kinds of sex organs and their strange methods of pro-creation in many different species, then one comes to the conclusion that nature was indeed a theoretical God with access to a higher form of intelligence because it got it absolutely right over and over again. The different kinds of sex organs or procreation boggles the mind! And in all of these the parts function perfectly together – unexplained miracles – which defies critical thinking and logic. Additionally - nature can count..... because half of the chromosomes (23) are in the male and the the female donates 23.... which gives 46. Are you sure they developed separate by chance? Lions have 38 in total..... 19 donated by female and 19 donated by male. Again - nature can count. The sable antelope and the shrimp also has 46 chromosomes - same as humans. There is a fern with 1440 chromosomes - 720 pairs........ it reproduces by spores. The diversity in nature is too complex to explain away by "chance" The mathematics of hitting the jackpot spot-on over and over so many billions of times in a row seems like something with ‘foresight’ was manipulating the process.

He would not have said it if it was not a possibility in his mind. Don't fall for that apology. I would never say such a thing - no matter how much pressure I am under. This is really a lame excuse !!!

You have debunked NOTHING! Insults is not a form of logic, evidence or debunking.

With evolution everything moves over millions of years - so slow in fact that fragile life can be destroyed by natural disasters ...... oh I forgot about the goldilocks conditions...... there were no disasters so life can develop by chance. Fossil record proves disastrous events...

Don't read books of people who says the earth was "seeded " by alliens... I doubt his logic after hearing that with my own ears.

The evolutionist term "goldilocks conditions " apply....... lol

Reminds me of the "goldilocks epochs" when there were no natural disasters for millions of years so that the "soup" was stable for the millions of mutations to lead to beneficial selections. Hitting the jackpot every time.

Wishful thinking m'dear....... the million years it would take to sort that out would see the end of the specie......

Darwins finches had "adaption" of their beaks when the food source changed and changed back again when the food source changed back......... they were still finches. They did not change into eagles.

Lol. Do you 7nderstand what you are saying? That is the problem with evolutionists.... they don't think things through. If I have a windows code to operate my computer and I suddenly develop a few "variations" in the code or a few mutations.......... I will have to get the trouble shooter in to find the "variation" so he can get the computer to run again. Genetic code is a more complex operating system than a windows system.

More evolution " thumbsuck".

Yea, all different species in graveyards which were formed by water in catastrophic motion........ only adults of the different species........ fully formed and twisted in unnatural positions. Adults were running for their lives when they were swept away. Lol: A friend recently asked me this question: If I gave you all the necessary elements to build a piece of bamboo and I added to that unlimited time - would you be able to build it? I said yes - with eons of time I am sure I could figure it out! Then she said: Here is the catch: you may not use your brain – just leave it to chance! (Without my intelligence I can have eons of time but will not accomplish anything.) This is an answer to the question about 'entropy' being able to 'build' up complex working machines in perfect sequence out of random chaos. It cannot hit the jackpot over and over in sequences of billions of times unless it is somehow orchestrated.

Have you guys ever seen the power of water...... a small stream coming down Carrie's everything with it......... even rocks.

I have seen a simulation of the rapid movement of Pangea during the flood. All the events you guys describe happened by one little mutation by one little miracle mutation over billions of years when earth was perfectly stable .....is not mathematically possible. It would take one protein to be built this way ...... longer than the universes existence.....

The pressure of the weight of the water pushed out the ridges of mountains we see and trenches in the sea. Some places went higher and some lower

Yes, but it is RARELY is beneficial. The number of incorrect mutations would have exceeded the benefits.... Just to create one protein would take longer than 500 billions years. I have mentioned before that "goldilocks conditions" would be needed for the right chemicals to stay together and not diffuse back into the "soup" without a membrane to keep it together. Perfect conditions for millions upon millions of years when the earth always has unpredictable weather and disasters. Not possible.... that is a dream...... not even a theory.

The mountains became higher with the rapid movement of the tectonic plates......we find sea life above the mountains.... .. it was a catastrophic event. There were volcanoes and the water violently broke free from the bottom if the earth as well as the water band above the expanse breaking ...... furthermore ..... weigh a bucket of water........ feel how heavy it weighs..... that pressure of the water after it came down and the tsunamis it formed wrecked the old world completely. It also explains how fast the layers of sediment formed. .....also coal and oil. One needs pressure to form coal and NO oxygen present. Water can do that!

Each minute hange that " by chance" turned out to be a unexplainable benefit is a miracle!

Most of the pics are sucked from the imagination of an artist.... True scientists acknowledge there are too many unexplainable gaps. If millions of changes took place to grow each animal...... where is the evidence? Most animals arrived fully formed....... writing books dont make it true.... drawing trees dont make it true..... it just means you believe the theory of the writer without proper evidence .

When the usury system was introduced in 1913. When the FED became a private institution and all American taxes went to private bankers. WW1 AND WW2 and many other wars and coup de Tats were orchestrated by our govt. to get control of wealth and get all countries on a usuary system. Soon we will be taken over by those 1% wealthiest who own the wealth and global corporations in the world. Small banks will disappear and everyone will be dependent upon the central bank in their country..... tied to the international bank of settlements, UN banks and central banks.

Not one of the miracles in evolution have been proven...... no fossils to prove the interim stages... why? Because complex life exploded on the world scene (each specie fully developed) in one layer of the earth...... called the Cambrian explosion. At least the Talmud writes scathingly of Jesus - so we know he czme to earth. ..... part of a prophecy and part of the plan to redeem mankind. Many artifacts exist from the period of the israelite kings .I.e. a seal from the "house of David." Hezekias tunnel, pool of Siloam...... the kings really existed... Etc. Israel is a "living history" .... they have been celebrating passover for 3500 years and the saving of Israel during time of queen ester for 2500 years. I can go on and on.

Jehovah speaks of all the creation days as "a day" ..... so it is clear it is not a 24-hour day but an epoch.

Faith according to hebrews 11:1 "Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen." The evidence of realities is not just seen in the complexity and synergistic designs in the physical creation , but very well noted in the main theme of the bible which "purpose" has slowly been taking shape throughout the ages. To restore mankind back to God. Many steps of this plan has been fulfilled but the final 1000 years is a reality still hoped for. If all other parts of the plan came true (i.e. such as the timely arrival of christ) then the final part of the purpose is assured. There is no way that people who did not know each other and lived hundreds of years apart could write about " one theme" throughout the bible without some help. The main theme is logical, consistent, coherent, and has continuity. I.e continuity...... : David was born in Bethlehem and Jesus was born in Bethlehem.... in the Davidic line (genealogy), abraham went on mount moriah to sacrifice isaac and a 1000 years later this same spot was purchased and the temple was built by solomon. The main theme is about human rulership.... that it is always oppressive and imperfect.... Adam chose independence from the sovreignty of God by using his gift of free will in a selfish way. Human rulership is therefore predicted to be a miserable failure because most people make up their own morality "good and bad" as they go along. Humankind broke their relationship with God. God immediately made arrangements to restore his purpose but only after he has given humans a chance to rule themselves..... which will end badly. God will have to step into humankind's affairs to save them from themselves. He will have proven beyond reasonable doubt that humans cannot rule themselves successfully without Him. Jehovah will eventually only use those persons who willingly choose to be under His direct rulership and willing to obey his self-sacrificing moral standards..as taught by Jesus, the christ. Successful rulership can only be just and righteous when all humans are equal under god and God ( who can read hearts ) will administer perfect and equal justice. Humans are always imperfect and are bias...... even if they bring in one set of moral laws - they will still fail because "human rules over another to his detriment"..... for example: USA are supposed to have equality because it has laws in place..... but if it is not equally enforced ....... then there is no equality. UN will being in one set of morals and it will fail ! Miracles are also interesting. Can one accept a miracle as a reality when it advances a specific plan and was predicted ahead of time? The trillions of miracles in evolution has no plan, happen by random chance and does not have a stipulated purpose or a final outcome predicted...... just random events. Even the " intelligent information " sprang into complex patterns " and has no explanation except that it is chance. Trillions x trillions of miracles with no purpose. The bible on the other hand has steps which lead to a final outcome which has been predicted. Each step was predicted and fulfilled exactly on time and also exactly as predicted. Biblical Faith is not blind........ evolutionary faith is blind because there is no proper fossil record and there is no outcome or purpose. Biblical faith has historic "evidence" that many of steps in the plan has already happened ...... so we have an assured expectation that the final outcome will also be as predicted.