Arauna

8 minutes ago, César Chávez said:

your action by speaking out loud on an open forum? That action is seen by God as preventing others from knowing God as Jesus

Thank you brother for that comment..... very true.  

There is still time for repentance........ but self-righteousness may prevent that from happening.

30 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

comment on that part of "religious education" that came to be useless even inside

I find it wonderful - our religious education.  You did not ...... but seeing your attitude and the way you look at life...... I am not surprised.  

27 minutes ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

drew a cartoon about this years ago

I do not think you have this story correct...... but it does not matter. 

Whole blood and fractions are different.  They will allow you to take whole blood or a hundred fractions of blood by your own choice.  It is still a personal choice to obey or disobey.

Your conscience will excuse you or accuse you before jehovah when it comes to fractions. When it comes to whole blood- there is a biblical prohibition against it which is very clear.

32 minutes ago, 4Jah2me said:

regularly made false predictions, showing

I think they are spot on about the UN (a group of nations who willingly give over their authority),  I think they are spot on about 1914, I think they are spot on about the world empire of false religion being destroyed by the image of the beast, I think they are spot on about the 'invisible presence' of christ....... I can go on..

But you try to only focus on that which was not spot on when there is so much that is spot-on...... and then you critisize them vehemently when they adjust their view.  No matter what they do you will find fault........ reminds me again of the pharisees which critisized jesus for healing on the sabbath.

48 minutes ago, 4Jah2me said:

authority that is used in an unjust and dictatorial way

According to your standards - not jehovah's .

True Christian's are always cooperative and yielding, even if it means they have to sacrifice something.  You sound asif you were extremely combative........ the same spirit you display here. 

Satan is depicted as a roaring lion  On the other hand the lion is a symbol of righteousness and the lion of Judah depicts righteous rulership.

Similarly the locust. Its destructive, penetrating traits can be used in two ways.

Do not forget that locusts with 'crowns' on them can symbolize an unstoppable plague; and  since they are not "unclean" insects they can depict an unstoppable group of  Jehovahs servants.

Locusts can also be referred to in their natural capacity and refer to devastation. 

31 minutes ago, 4Jah2me said:

you too twist the truth and make accusing comments. 

I corrected you because YOU were sly...... implying people are losing their lives regarding the blood law......  because they obey gods law.  You implied that they are listening to the GB instead of obeying God. I called you out on that deceit. 

The jew is his slave - and many go with them as the prophecy indicates....... but you refuse to acknowledge the Jew. 

I may add that vitamin D3 is the best form to use and one should always use it with vitamin K2. Vitamin K2 counteracts any hardening of the arteries which can come with use of vit D.

I write this from memory...... so research he vit K2 connection to D3.

Abominable is the wrong word...... and I would not call it a bracelet for luck either. 

The youth like trinkets..... It is definitely not as expensive as real jewelery stones and an alternative to other symbols such as the star of David. 

My husband has worn  Harley Davidson T-shirts going to the shop and many people wear Lacoste, Nike etc.  I have had handbags with a brand name on them - but these were not very obvious.  

Having something with a brand name does not necessarily indicate worship of the brand.  As an older person I do not care much for brand items but one can become so picky on the young kids so that one can take pleasure and individuality out of their  life... Live and let live is a good motto.

If it is something which is similar to worship or a sign such as a swastica,  ying-yang symbol or other  religious symbols or  buddha head, film star,  then one can make a case against it.

LOVE builds up...... when in doubt...... show love.

13 hours ago, 4Jah2me said:

and many of the man made rules

As I said before- I suspect you have a problem with all authority.......even if they come from God himself

16 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

useless interpretations about Bible text. In

Definitely not useless, it served a valuable purpose. You forget that older generations still had proper school education. We learnt history, Latin and all kinds of subjects which made us more prone to read history.  We also learnt to read better than the later generations. 

I loved the books that went into history such as "Babylon the great has fallen" etc.  I did not study it.  It came out before I became a witness but I read it afterward. I also liked some of the older books such as the description of the parables.

I read the old Daniel book quite a few times and this morning read a portion of the old revelation book.....and found something new which I had not seen before.... so you assume to much and your statement is condescending to say the least.

On 4/23/2020 at 1:01 AM, 4Jah2me said:

People should know who the true Anointed are (ten

Are you advocating undue attention  to the anointed?  On the one hand you are always chastising JWs for listening to the slave (anointed) and accuse us of giving GB too much attention........and on the other hand advocate more attention within congregations...... only to anointed... paradox..... 

On 4/23/2020 at 5:29 AM, Anna said:

forget many of the anointed (I would say most if they are male) are actually elders.

Wrong! Not all anointed males are elders...... just as in first century not all were elders.

On 4/23/2020 at 1:01 AM, 4Jah2me said:

because the memorial is for the Anointed not the Domestics.

Read the scripture again - it does not refer to anointed and domestics...... it refers to the "slave" and domestics. Not all are part of the slave-  so the rest are domestics. Matt 24:45.

On 4/23/2020 at 12:44 AM, 4Jah2me said:

Unfortunately @Arauna  does not understand the difference between obedience to GOD as opposed to obedience to the GB and it's 2 orgs (

Read my comment above about my daughter with cancer and a day-long surgery.  I have experience with abstinence of blood and have tasted that jehovah is good.  You are the one who regularly mocks me and then play the victim......  not nice.

Always insinuating that my loyalty to GB is greater than my obedience to God when I merely obey jehovah's word. You are the one who laments that saving a life (maybe your own) as more important than obedience to God. 

Did you know that receiving serum from and animal or human or the plasma exposes one to the viruses and some diseases the donor has had?  Minute pathogens- some, we have not yet discovered.

After the experience with my daughter, and she survived, I studied the impact if blood and found that jehovah knows best. If I had allowed the doctors to give her blood - she would have died from anaphylactic shock.

With HIV so rampant and other unknown entities, I would rather abstain from blood or blood particles.

I used hydroxychloroquine successfully when I was extremely ill during this lockdown.   I am still in quaranteen and will have myself checked for antibodies for Corona once this lockdown is over. I will be 68 next birthday...... so I am not a spring chicken and I do have an underlying health issue.......and I did not need plasma.

Obeying jehovah brings benefits - there are many things we do not understand and when we remember our limitations in humility, He will bless us.

14 hours ago, Anna said:

just add Latin as JTR

It is not anywhere near a catholic ritual...... so aramaic will be better.. lol

38 minutes ago, Shiwiii said:

you seriously equating Jesus death (for all of the

I quote 4jah2me "it seems crazy to let yourself die" ...... well ..... jesus allowed himself to die in loyalty to his father......  4jah2me obviously sees something seriously SICK in that!......... or maybe did not fully understand what I was referring to.

There is a problem: he cannot see that a person should not value his life more than his obedience to God!!! 

Matt 16 :25

"For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.  "

Yea, I guess Jesus was also crazy (according to 4jah2me) to let himself die. Loyalty to God and his principles had nothing to do with it..... 

14 hours ago, Anna said:

it might have really looked

We sat.  But your photo reminded me that they would have been sitting on those long couches.

6 hours ago, JW Insider said:

have a deep hatred of the "West" that so often leads to violence. I see terrible mistakes being

I totally agree with you that the West has been, especially US, is been a dragon speaking like a lamb or speaking with forked tongue.  The propaganda in the west has been about democracy being the best form of worship...... I mean governance. Totally agree.  When the west has been a predator........ but I think the west has met its match....... soon to be felt.

I love the Chinese people but not the way that the CCP is implementing extreme communism over it's own people at present which is now only allowing worship of the state..... all religions persecuted even to death. 

The fact that I am pointing out the sudden and extreme changes in China (the awakening of a dangerous dragon of a different color)  does not mean that I do not see the hypocricy and corruption in the west.  I just assume people already know this because they should be informed about what is going on right under their noses.

The west has it's own propaganda but they think theirs is free press...... with investigative reporting - all a lie.The problem I have is that most people do not even question, and do not really have a clue how corrupt both Democrat and Republicans really are, and what has been going on under their noses for the past 20 years.

Today 15 lawyers and government officials were taken into custody in Hong-Kong.  They were known to speak out about the CCP takeover and want the CCP to stick to the 50 year agreement that was signed when the English handed Hong Kong over...... all officials in Hong Kong have to e pliable to CCP pressure......or face consequences.

China has used  the cover of this Corona virus conveniently to stop the year long demonstrations against CCP takeover.....in Hong Kong and troop deployments have been going on in China itself.

All human governments are now totally corrupt and compromised BUT but not all of them are totalitarian........ yet.  Or aquiescing to totalitarian ideas.

I am watching China because her form of regime has been touted by UN and by many western philosophers and even university professors as a model for  the future.  

China is everywhere and her totalitarian ideas....... this is what I am drawing attention to.  This does not augur well for the future when many appointees on the UN are already her puppets and she it getting more and more influence in UN and other international governing organizations. 

I have not even mentioned her spy networks in just about every country in the west and the financial pressure she is exerting on umpteen countries due to her predatory loans.  I have not mentioned how she buys space in western newspapers to place articles which praise her way of doing things....... so much propaganda, influence on campuses, etc.

So hopefully we can agree on this at least ..... that if the world follows her model....... we are in big trouble.  If one knows bible prophecy - we already know the end outcome........ then it is easy to watch for the steps inbetween. 

On 4/6/2020 at 5:56 AM, Anna said:

but I don't think I am going to pass them around. To me that wo

Anna, my husband and I put it in front of us so the bread and wine could be prayed over and passed it to each other.  As a tactile person I like to hold the glass and plate for a brief second to think about it for a brief second so as to feel part of a celebration. It felt like a ceremony to me.... the memory of an inauguration. 

On 4/11/2020 at 10:01 PM, Witness said:

not the reason why God allowed the army to devastate His wayward people. (

Number 1: I could not find the article in April ..... please give a link to it.

I read Joel , the entire chapter, and It clearly states that the people of God will be saved.  There is an army "behind" and infront". Further down in the chapter it clearly refers to the "vanguard" and "rearguard". 

On 4/17/2020 at 8:49 PM, JW Insider said:

China and its efficient and humane response to COVID-19, it would

Ha-ha...... believe what you like.  Read up on Ethiopia and how the Head of WHO starved and denied 2 million people  medical care and medicine because they voted against the minority rulership of which he is a member.  He has a very bad record but as soon as someone criticises him he plays the race card. He did the same as Mugabe..... starved his own people....... 

Ethiopia ows China so much money for major  building projects and the influence of China is great in this country.  WHO leader is a Chinese activist and if you think he handled it well then your standards are not high.

The human rights council just appointed a Chinese person in one of the most important posts on the human rights council. He will be responsible to appoint 15 people to very important agencies in the UN. 

If that sounds wonderful to you - then so be it.  I say ..... this is leading up to a totalitarian state of control where all religion will be banned with no respect for life (similar to what is going on in China right now), where people will not think twice to starve you if you do not worship the state...... similar to Mao se Tung's actions..... and also Stalin..

On 4/17/2020 at 8:55 PM, JW Insider said:

find surgeons who offered blood-free surgery in those years.

1967 was the year of the first successful heart transplant in the world. It was done by a south African doctor.  My daughter's doctor was excellent and so was her follow-up by a world renowned pediatrician-oncoligist.  My daughter had a neuro-blasoma on the spine and it was on both sides of the spine inside the chest 5cm long.  A neuro-blastoma is genetic.

My entire family are prone to cancer.... my sister got the same as my mother at age 35 and my father also died of cancer.  I will not go into details here on the reasons why, but just take my word for it, or call me a liar.  My husband died in a car crash shortly after my daughter's operation....... talk of my faith being tested! So I can do without your skepticism.

When I came to American in 1998, I was disappointed at the level of technology. I saw that many buildings did not  have underground cables for internet. 

In the first world parts of south Africa we were ahead of america on many things.....because we were late in acquiring TV and internet we had the newest technology.

Before the country was given over to Mandela they dismantled many of our arms factories which supplied America with weapons.  They also dismantled the atom bombs we had.  The country was very advanced even if you do not think so.

Unfortunately the entire infrastucture has gone to pot and there has been a braindrain due to the BEE policies of the ANC government. 

22 hours ago, César Chávez said:

Continue to proliferate a nonsensical approach by assuming the error in judgment comes from others rather than yourself.

I am glad you noticed this. This is why is choose not to reason with her or her two lackeys......any longer..... the logic and reason is lacking -  nonsensical.