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Ridiculous! The Russian government's justice would have made them a laughing stock if the world was sane. Good old Marxism!

They GB decided to adopt the name with this pronunciation did they not? . You are dancing all around the subject without making a point. You do not see your own reasoning how ficle it is...... so I leave it at that.

We take our young children with us on field service too! Nothing wrong with that! An older child which listens to the meeting and participates will maybe be counted as an attendee but one that sits and plays and has attention all over the place will definitely not be counted. With the memorial being a solemn occasion and an understanding of the ransom needed and an understanding of who may partake of the emblems, I would say that visitors, studies, JWs and invited quests will be counted but children definitely not- unless they are very mature. Those who do the regular counting know who are mature enough and who are not.

I think you did not read (or think about) the portion I wrote you on Ezekiel 38. ..Somewhere above Jehovahs people are secure with Jehovah.....they need not flee to any physical part of the world. They have already fled from false religion and this political system.....to a spiritual "land" as a nation.......they will not have the mark of the beast. (Political system) .... so jehovah will protect them. In Russia, JWs are already being plundered...... it has started.... but the all-out direct attack will come later when it seems to Gog (a coalition of nations) that we have NO protection.. which is true.... we have no visible physical protection but we have Jehovah's armies waiting in heaven which will then act. In one breath you acknowledge that Australia is in fear of China and in the next breath you say it will be safe enough for all Jehovahs people to flee to? Is there logic in this conclusion? The next thing you will have to think about is : who is the 'woman' mentioned in genesis 3:15. It is not Eve because the "seed" (jesus) will come from her and he will have power to kill the serpent (satan). This is the same woman who was barren (read Isaiah 54 of which Jehovah is the husband and is mentioned in Galatians 4:26 _ 31. In Rev 12 she is depicted with moon and stars on her head. Please read all these scriptures and you will notice that she is a heavenly woman. Like Jesus has a bride spoken of we see that God has a wifely organization.

You are guessing too! ... and in a joke-maligning way! So please provide solid proof that they count babies......toddlers. You are so disrespectful sometimes..... sometimes your jokes are condescending / patronizing and shows disrespect......... but I guess you have yet to develop a sense of limits........ it seems you have no self-control regarding this. It is easiest thing in the world to get a cheap laugh on other persons. I do not see this as wit at all. .... You imply that the GB cannot distinguish between children and adults....... There is a line one does not cross (EVEN IN JOKES) otherwise you constitute yourself an enemy ..... but I guess you cross them all.

I notice the small things wherein jehovah has given direction to his people...... Even if it is right in front of your face you will not see it because your entire personality (from what I see in your writing) is consumed by hate for the GB and JWs....... to the extent that you are even putting your family at risk on the altar to your hate. You only use the word father or other derivation. .. not the name yehovah AND REFUSE TO SEE THAT THE GB has been vindicated. I just typed in " call on name" and a list of scriptures like this one came up: "Give thanks to Jehovah, call on his name ,Make his deeds known among the peoples! 2 Sing to him, sing." ........so you do not obey the bible when you refuse to use the name of God and use only the word father instead. Are you sure you obey the bible? Zeph 3:9 the pure language is linked to the entire earth calling on the name of Jehovah. Joel 2: 32 And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved; For on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be those who escape, just as Jehovah has said,The survivors whom Jehovah calls... And jehovah has a 'people' for his name - just turned out the had the name right all along! Acts 15:14

If you know Arabic or Hebrew you will know that a "y" is pronounced the closest to a "j" in the English language. In other languages it is pronounced very similar to the Hebrew pronunciation such as my own language which a form of Dutch as well as swedish etc. Etc. In English the "j" is the closest to "y". But you are again deviating from the issue. You were promoting yahweh or yehwah while the witnesses have always accepted jehovah. While I do accept the are GB are not inspired, I do believe they are guided by Jehovahs spirit. And I have given you a video above which has the name of Jehovah in the national archives of Israel seven times in one manuscript - it has the original pointer system in the name "yehovah" which proves this is the correct pronunciation. This manuscript is exhibited together with the oldest manuscript of the Hebrew scriptures. The name with its pointer system was there all along but no-one noticed it before.

You do not believe Jehovahs spirit works on the GB ..... then please explain why the GB used the correct pronunciation all along - because the newest information proves in more than 1000 Hebrew manuscripts with its point system - that jehovah is the correct pronunciation.

Roman armies would definitely have camped just out of reach of arrow fire, building siege engines and ramps in 66CE. They had breached a part of the wall and suddenly left when Vespasian legions were needed elsewhere. It is not by works but as you say, to be pure from this world and have the personality reflecting the Spirit of Jehovah. (5 virgins did not have enough oil - not enough of jehovahs spirit) . But keep in mind they receive undeserved kindness from Jehovah like everyone else.

We have quite a few Russians here in Rep of Georgia because they do not need a Visa here. Two sisters from Ossetia. For Norway or other countries they have to work and apply for residence or apply for asylum. Most ex-Russian countries are now starting to persecute JWs......especially those who still have Russian mindset but do not include countries which are part of NATO.

No dear.... relax.... but thanks for caring.

My dear brother, I understand where you are coming from........ I myself hate the really subtle deceit on this open public forum (you can join the closed section where you are approved to join)....... and have spoken out myself in very strong terms. However, I think it is a good place to learn self-control in speech and not use derogatory names. We must develop spirit of christ. Some people here learn absolutely nothing from others. They are here for one purpose only........ to be subversive. I have learnt to just ignore the most outrageous comments and direct attacks against my logic and even my personal sanity.... I definitely do not do it perfectly but I am getting a little better at it! You will notice here on this forum, what I call OCD. A syndrome of compulsive, repetitious, unremitting hate for anything to do with the GB or JWs. Despite this: under this subject above there has been one or two very interesting comments such as the historical facts around 66CE. Good job by the contributor..... I may also add that the zealots were giving Rome an extremely hard time due to guerilla warfare /attacks. Rome left Palestine at this time.... (Rome started to call the area Palestine), because they needed their soldiers in other areas. Vespasian left for Rome (if I remember correctly). There were wars to determine the next Ceasar and Vespasian came out tops. His son Titus returned to Jerusalem in 7O CE when the rule in Rome was secured. ROME really wanted to get rid of the zealots called sicarii....... assassins and a large number of them were controlling Jerusalem. Titus himself was almost killed upon his return on his way to Jerusalem by such an ambush. The battle in 70 CE was ferocious...... from wall to wall and street to street. The tree barricade put up later around the city stopped people from getting out of Jerusalem with surprise attacks on the Roman's. No wonder the Roman's were so harsh when the battle came to an end and the temple was burnt. After this the name jehovah was also banned from use.

We live in a world where brothers cannot go to another country and illegally immigrate unless you are classified a migrant from a 3rd world or accepted country. So the GB unselfishly remained in Russia to support the brothers, who could not flee , as long as possible. So much for those saying the GB just cares about assets. Here they clearly risked assets to be able to support brothers....

The pharisees as a class rejected jesus. There were only individuals like Nicodemus who accepted Jesus and many of them were afraid to speak out. As a class in Jerusalem they conspired together to have him killed. They all hated him. The Sanhedrin took the final action as the legal entity granted limited powers by the Romans. The could not get him on biblical grounds and reverted to political means.

The bible translators knew the name. Jehovah appears about 5 times in the original King James version. In south Africa all the native translations had the name in it more than 6000 times but the same company (which printed the Afrikaans bible) took the name completely out of it in 1933. Yea, JWs did stick to using this pronunciation: Jehovah! .... ..just amazing how the Spirit of Jehovah works! It will be right in front of your eyes and you will not acknowledge it......

Here in Georgia the orthodox church is going ahead with Easter meetings and offer wine in the same spoon to everyone! They believe God will protect them. They forget about the scripture where Jesus said we must not put God to the test. We had brother Sanders (GB) give our talk via Zoom in Tbilisi. It was simple and down to earth....... loved it!

I do not find this to be a joke simply because I object to be controlled by anyone!....... and the implication that we are babies and cannot think for ourselves . ..... well it is a blatant lie..... albeit in a joke.

Like the pharisees saw the miracles of Jesus but refused to acknowledge them, you are doing the same. There is ample proof about the name of Jehovah....but your fruits are poisonous, everyone who eats them will die.

“This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: ‘In that day thoughts will come into your heart, and you will devise an evil plan. 11 You will say: “I will invade the land of unprotected settlements. I will come against those living in security, without disturbance, all of them living in settlements unprotected by walls, bars, or gates.” It is not called a 'quiet' place but a 'secure' place. Look at the scripture again...It speaks of a land.... . Remember, JWs are a nation who live all over the earth. (The chapter indicates this nation has been restored from all the nations of the earth). A nation has a country or a.... 'land'. But we are spread over the earth? Just like the "Israel of God" in Galations 6: 15 & 16 is a spiritual Jew (which is not 'circumcised or uncircumcised' ) this refers to a spiritual land where all Jehovahs people are already dwelling in a secure place - with Him and have His protection.. But to a fleshly king, the king of the north and the coalition of the kings of the earth, we look like easy prey. WHY ? We are like unprotected lambs for the slaughter to him because our land has no visible protection. We are his Big mistake! He, under direction of Satan, has already started to attack us, confiscating property etc. As the scripture indicates, his allies, a coalition of kings will bring a full out attck in the final days..... but when their attack is to totally destroy Jehovahs people, jehovah will act on "Israel's" (the spiritual Jew's) behalf. "In the final part of the days I will bring you against my land so that the nations may know me when I sanctify myself through you before their eyes, O Gog.”

He is a language scholar. He critisized the scholars who have German as their first language because they are influenced by Yiddish. Arabic speakers are also influenced by Arabic. He has collected more than a 1000 references in ancient hebrew manuscripts where the point system is present in Jehovahs name. JWs use the pronunciation correctly.

You are right. He (Nehemia Gordon) does debunk the idea. He says that people who do this ( break up ye-hovah) have a very superficial knowledge of Hebrew. There are few words with 2 root letters (consonants). In Hebrew. Most words have at least 3 consonants. (Similar to Arabic). I saw a video with Nehemia Gordon where he corrects this presenter in the above video. This presenter is confusing people because one cannot break up Hebrew words. Similar to the English word "enchanting" . Take the 'en' off the front of the word and one has the word "chanting". Enchanting and chanting does not have the same meaning.

He even discusses that. If you want to know the truth and really want to follow the truth....... why make up a title ? Do you want to know what is the true name of God is and its true pronunciation? This scholar goes into the number of times the titles for God is used in the bible such as God, Lord etc....... and he says the name Jehovah on average is used 3 times on every page in the Hebrew scriptures - much more than the other titles. He says the tetragrammaton is there but the Jews replace it with the world lord or god when they read it. He also indicates that it was after the destruction of Jerusalem that the practice of not using the name "Jehovah" became permanent tradition because the Romans burned a Rabbi (his tomb is still in Israel) for using the name Jehovah. They wanted the name stamped out because it defined them as separate from other nations. Other Rabbis were in fear and stopped using the name.

I lived in Africa for 45 years.......... a violent continent and Islamists creating havoc. You have a very good chance of having your head chopped off with a machete or slowly tortured to death. I recently lived in Europe - violence is increasing and in future we will see major upheavals with the cultures that do not get along. (The UN will bring in their rules to get everyone to live together under strict surveillance). I now live in Asia Minor in a reasonably safe place but all the countries around me could become dangerous suddenly. Russia, Iran, Turkey to name but just a few. My husband and I have decided to die here and face Armageddon here. It is as good as any other place. Australia and Japan are in fear of China because china is becoming aggressive in its territorial aspirations. China has already bribed most Indonesian countries. Australia has severe problems as well and do not like new immigrants. Bottom line: In previous historical times there were places to flee to but everyone has now run out of places.... and you will not qualify as a "migrant" if you come from a first world country. In any case " The Internet of Things" which is being planned for mankind, and is "by their estimations" to be implemented by 2022, will track you wherever you go. G5 being installed in most cities now as we speak. The new vaccinations against Corona will ensure it..... they are talking about putting a chip in the vaccination so you will not be able to travel if you do not scan it in and have the right traveling credentials. No place to hide...... only in your room on your knees where Jehovah says you can wait on him OR with your fellow believers in prison. I must say, although the prison scenario will definitely be cramped and dirty....... and to add some spice.....not all JW personalities are easy to get along with.... it is better to be with them than living in total anarchy........ because this will be the scenario before and during Armageddon. At least in jail we can pray together and sing together and support each other. The situation will not be ideal but we can count on Jehovah's angels to be there. The authorities may even get to kill a few JWs before Jehovah steps in. Who knows? But I am not adverse to go to jail with my brothers and sisters....... better place to be ...huddled together. Unfortunately the time for sentiment is over...... the realities will soon hit home when very nasty events under Satan's control start to happen.

If you go to the Youtube channel for Hebrew language scholar, Nehemia Gordon, and listen to some of his presentations you will find that Yehovah is the correct pronunciation...... in his video he goes into all the deviations which you were discussing up above.

In Sweden it happened that someone partook. She had so many personal problems and later on she just passed off the scene...... disappeared. Because I was a foreigner I did not catch up with the news about her.