Arauna

I do not read propaganda on how wonderful China or communism is..... I grew up in Africa which is a real-life excellent example of communistic ideas and dictators. I speak to people who tell me how things are changing in China since the CCP consolidated under their leader. I listen to foreigners who speak Chinese and have lived in China for at least 20 years (they have seen the economic growth phase of China and the start of the clamp down on freedoms). When they report, I listen, because they know what they are talking about. Foreigners or foreign journalists who go to China are watched all the time or are a guest of the state... they can only do superficial reporting. Absolutely. Why I mention neo-communism (my word for the new communism) is that I see it spreading in the attitudes in the west - the atheism and post-modern thinking. Once one has given way to this form of government there is no way of getting out from under it due to the oppressive nature of it.... and i think the entire world is heading this way..... to bring the conditions of hardship and oppression the bible speaks about in time of end. It may happen differently by some twist of nature (literally). Lol.

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China is going to the leaders and bribing them. It is a system of "predatory loans" . John Bolton does not have the facts about the tactics. For every million they "lend" there are millions of bribes. Just like first world country leaders who are in China and treasonly getting "perks for their own pockets, these african, Asian, south American leaders put the money in their own pockets and sign agreements for ports etc.... they have no need for. When the port is built (by china) then China wants payment. When countries cannot afford to pay, China has them sign a 100 year lease. China has taken over mines, ports, airports, forests, all kinds of assets. They send their "friendly" police in to protect their newly acquired assets and write stories in newspapers promoting china. South africa's police is learning Chinese in cultural exchange but In Kenya someone saw toilets for Chinese only. ....and a few years back china shot Zambian miners in their own country because they wanted better wages! The silk road leading to Georgia- is being built in same way...... countries are having to pay for something they did not want .... but their leaders were bribed..... then the asset becomes property of china. China annexed a gold mine in one of the countries ...... after outcry they had to give it back....... u til they control the area. China had a 20 year plan - expansion and colonisation.. Propaganda is the main tool of communism and suppression of the truth. Communism is an ugly beast and so is extreme capitalism.... both lead to oppression, suppression of the truth, bribes or lobbying and in the end - a nasty oppression of all citizens, except the priviledged and leaders. Life in such a system becomes worthless. This is why I realize the world is going one way - to a fulfillment of final prophecy,. Evil technology development together with climate change are a few more nails in the coffin. The upliftment in China comes at a terrible cost..... extreme suffering of the poor. Property taken away, women having forced abortions and sterilization by the state. Incarceration etc. Life is worth nothing and human rights do not exist. This is why Hong Kong is resisting China...... but for how long? Chinas government has its spies in Australia, USA and keep Chinese students in check in other countries..... I can go on and on..,... America is hollow. The glory it had before is gone.... they still have a measure of freedom but because the youth and the older generation did not guard it, it is dissipating. The news is all theatre and entertainment - nothing substantial. A service oriented economy and a consumerism and stocks which makes the economy appear normal. But it is not healthy. I believe that tremendous problems are coming whether trump wins or not.

Yes China has become or will soon be the number one economy in the world. Communism can uplift more people because it has centralized decision- making and can get rid of all opposition. There is no freedom of expression, religion etc. The state decides what you should know and do. In the last 3 years China is tightening the screws. Foreigners are leaving in droves. It does not like foreign teachers of English because ideas of freedom could be exchanged. China's 20 year stint in capitalism enriched it. I call it communism with a face-lift (a slight deviation). Unfortunately many of its poor were working like slaves- 18 hours a day and living in cluttered hostel rooms- terrible conditions.. These people were like expendable fodder to the regime - like the 1million Muslims now in camps with their children separated from them in re-education schools. Many die. US companies relocated to china for cheap labour and helped to rebuild China while US factories were closing in USA. China stole the intellectual property and is now improving on it. They do not need anyone any longer. They are building their own supersonic weapons, rockets, aircraft carriers, new islands in the south China sea and taken over fishing rights etc. They use body parts of religious and Falun gong citizens for transplants - 10 thousand per year. Yes, I can talk about the rapid "upliftment" but this is not what communism is known for. It is known for its totalitarian control and a disrespect for life. Play or pay. The CCP is returning China back to the fundamental communist ideas. There is not free will or choice. Education for all - that is good - but it is an indoctrination vehicle from young age. They now have the social credit system with surveillance everywhere In Russia, Perestroika/glasnost brought forth a new brand of communism. It allowed the orthodox church so it can help build nationalism. The centralized government has oligarchs who play ball. If not- they land up in prison and their assets taken. In the last 20 years human rights lawyers and investigative journalists were just shot on the street or found dead. Russia is not poor - its industry is larger than I at first anticipated. It builds washing machines, all kinds of equipment. Global companies have factories in Russia for shampoo, soaps, hair colorants etc. I see the well known western brands in our shops but they are made in Russia. Industry is flourishing. I think they even make Heinz tomato sauce. Russia and China are now a formidable block to be reckoned with. They are like a wild card in the mix...... making unthinkable alliances with Muslim countries etc. They have agreements for oil, gas, satellite cooperation etc USA has been outplayed..... the trump card is not Trump's to hold.

North Korea is a totalitarian dictatorship with its citizens starving most of the time. A shocker for me two years ago was the soldier which defected. He would not have survived longer if he did not defect..... he had so many different kinds of parasites in his body. This tells you the condition of their soldiers..... and how they care for the soldiers they put on TV parades with the face of the dictator everywhere. Venezuela has oil. It should be a rich country.... but a benevolent socialist dictator brought the poor out if poverty....(he did well on that ) . but then he went further and nationalized all assets and became communist. He died - The next dictator put the nail in the coffin of the system... Communism killed Venezuela- not America. It is a bad system of governance. I equate it with feudalism. This is the system the UN is proposing.... a kind of feudalism to get control of the environment.. While I do not support any form of human government - I do evaluate what they do.... and I do not think it is conspiracy when I say I foresee a terrible future for the world if these plans comes to fruition. That is all. Hopefully jehovah steps in before it goes too far. I do believe that some scientists are lying about the environment in their so-called studies. I believe the biosphere has tremendous problems and geo-engineering is definitely going on to cover up the problems. The forests are being dessimated by China and those still in existence are drying out. The roots are so dry that new saplings are not sprouting up. Leaves are dry. There are fires in Siberia and Sweden. The Himalaya' s glaciers (Bhuthan is facing severe threats) are melting and forming lakes. When these start to burst and brim over thousands of lives and farming land will be lost. There are islands going under in Maldives.... Too much to mention.

They are erasing borders: by means of the UN migration compact 2018; this agreement echos the 'non-binding ' Barcelona Declaration 1995 signed by EU members. They are also redistributing wealth by means of the compact. Migrants have rights: they must receive a home (up to 4 wives have own accommodations ); free medical; food allowance, language lessons and help to intigrate. (As witnesses we believe in helping others and we do this willingly with love - so I personally do not complain). But as a political experiment it has been disastrous. Atheists really believe that redistributing wealth will make everyone happy. They do not understand religion as a political ideology. Murders, rapes etc have escalated. Handgranades go off. Churches vandalized every day, statues beheaded etc. (France had this happening before the Notre Dame was burnt) now Italy has the same. Jews killed or maimed. And the press is gagged by the 2018 Compact agreement. Nothing negative may be written about migration This gag order reminds me of the time before the iron curtain came down.... Stalin took control of the press in eastern block countries.... and then literally took over the countries. This is communist and totalitarian tactics in the making. The UN is displaying its intentions. The so-called 'non-binding' agreements become binding. How? Majority voting. They change clauses after the initial agreements. It becomes binding. In EU now they threatened Hungary to deny it any of its funding. They are trying to force it to take its quota of migrants. They will cut off trade etc. Hungary refused to sign the compact but it is majority rule that decides EU policy and it has jurisdiction. Small countries like Sweden is reeling under the migration influx. The nationalists are growing in Europe and migrants was the main reason for Brexit. The arbitrary instructions to take migrants. EU is like a dictatorship.... it controls quotas in farming etc....as well which impoverishes nations like Spain, Italy, Portugal etc. One law for all when some countries cannot deal with it and it causes hardship. EU is a good example of UN because their goals are aligned. What does this indicate? The EU and UN has shown their true colours. Watching parliament is scary because one realizes how many power-happy people are running these organizations..... I believe that the extremely rich on top and the workers at the bottom with no middle class makes communism and absolute capitalism end up with the same result. Extremely rich dictators on top and the poor at the bottom. In USA the middle class is disappearing and it is harder to get out of poverty. The global corporations in USA are now monopolies (they have not been held back) and hence now have too much power over all controlling bodies such as FDA, EPA etc. They also work with other oligarchs such as CCP in China. Facism is extreme nationalism with dictatorship. We will see which way it goes... I think the global corporations are working towards globalization goals. These ideas I put down here are things to watch for. No-one can predict the future....

I know there are many conspiracies about UN. Count Kalergi is the one behind the EU and UN idea. He wanted the world to be a federation...... with different blocks of countries united in regions, similar to what the UN is planning now. That is quite evident now. There is no outcry against the genocide in north Africa and middle east of people for the only reason that they are Christian. Christian's are being killed in India (now number 5 in the world) because other Muslim countries have very little Christian's left. The UN can go down and come up with a new name.... and new members - we will be persecuted as the bible says because we do not have the mark of this beast. They see themselves as the instrument to bring "peace and security " to the earth. Read their charter. We see only gods government as the instrument which can accomplish this successfully..... so I guess we will be branded as conspirators because we do not fall down and worship in obedience....... like Nebuchadnezzar demanded.

Royal family members were taken in by Him. One must understand the period to understand why people accepted certain things. The Pope made the konkordat with Hitler.......even Russia trusted him..... untill he turned on it. People can see things right under their noses and not realize what they are looking at. Most Jews who experienced kristal nacht never thought it could suddenly turn much worse. Those who did not leave in time were caught in the trap.

I listen to Catholics online to find out what is happening in the church. This is how I know about the Pope's antics because some are outraged. Some firmly believe the communists entered the catholic church and subverted it....... but the subversion goes father back than that. Communistic ideas went from Frankfort School into most mainstream universities in USA ...... it is now morphed into this new post modern philosophy and the new feminism. America has been subverted. Many professors openly preach communism and make excuses for communisms past atrocities. This is why I believe we will get a ind of dictatorship in the world because the powerful global corporations in the west and china/Russia are working together with UN. It is inevitable that they start to use modern technology in an evil way by surveilling all citizens and getting rid of those who have the wrong profile.. Me too! It is all working toward a global situation called Armageddon! Technology has advanced so much - it is mind boggling what they have been doing - we have reached a state of technological development where we do not control the ethics any longer and it can be used for very wicked purposes. China allows all kinds of unethical experiments and many westerners go there for this. This means that China- an increasingly absolute totalitarian regime- has the intellectual property to do with it what it wants.

All cards must line up. They are not complete yet.... but things can change overnight. In the time of Israel, way back then, Syria was part of northern coalition as a country. In the global fulfillment of this proohecy leading up to a global Armageddon it refers to the kings which are all aligned with the king if the south (Anglo-American interests with its allies) The king of the north is Russia and China and all its other allies which does include Syria- which are expanding rapidly. I see you like the prophecy of Daniel. Read Daniel 11:40. This economic pushing seems to be going on right now between north and south. Later the north controls all the wealth of the world..... read to end of chapter in Daniel 11. This I believe is happening now because China and Russia has infiltrated Africa and south America, has taken over the south China sea with 15 islands and building a fleet of ships capable of putting trade embargoes in place. There are too many things going on at present which indicates a world-wide fulfillment of prophecy. Communism does uplift people during the distribution of wealth phase - but it tends to always turn into a dictatorship. I come from Africa and first hand saw this. Most African countries are communist (their cultures love socialism) and suffer hardship because of communistic dictatorships. Africa cannot proper due to its human governments which immitate communism. Capitalism is not any better. While it allows freedom to prosper and gives more opportunities - unchecked capitalism leads to monopolies, then global corporations which become dictators. These corporations use their money to lobby to become more powerful and in the end it looks like a dictatorship by corporations or the individuals behind the corporations. Google is now dictating policy by removing independent reporting from internet...... and supporting Chinese surveillance system..... Global corporations can become evil - think of the history of Monsanto.....

I have found that most Americans view the world only through American eyes and this gives them a myopic view of the world. There is a massive globe out there and ALL countries if the earth will lose their governments, financial system and their religion to be replaced by Jehovahs one government and true worship to jehovah. While the Anglo- American government is the 7th head and mentioned separately in Revelation as the lamb with 2 horns, it indicates the "image of the beast " will be the eighth king (UN and its coalitions) and in this time the image of the beast will turn against the harlot (which represents the world empire of false religion). New York or the destruction of only the catholic church in Rome will merely be another major change on the world scene. It will not herald in the situation called Armageddon. Armageddon will be a major global upheaval wherein the entire human ruling and religious system will fall into dysfunction and self- destruction........ If jehovah does not step in - no flesh will be saved.

Talking of conspiricies..... if they do not exist then we must remove the word from our dictionary...... Wicked mankind and even the good have conspired and often on a larger scale than we realize. There were massive conspiricies in the catholic church, so much so that Jesuits were banned from becoming Pope........ and now we have a Jesuit Pope...... Conspiricies are not all "bad or wicked" - in the sense that those with too much money and influence really believe in themselves that they are "good" and doing things for the people. It is easy to deceive yourself if you benefit by it in some way and in the end control other peoples destinies. Corporations are now deciding our future with the policies they lobby for and secretly fund. The catholic church has always conspired...... made secret political agreements. It was rich and had influence which is now waning. The illuminati was a real conspiracy which had satanic sources. It was caught out and was disbanded but was the source several other secret groups. It's way of management (a circular form of hierarchy - not triangular) is still used by secret organizations today. People join a world-wide charity and do not know who is at the top. This is why JW's are protected from them because we are cautioned not to get involved in the world. It seems Rutherford knew about some secret catholic conspiracies going on.....and he had some things right even though it was way too early........ but because it was not yet the time for fulfillment - he got it wrong. Does not mean to say the church will not be involved in the time of the end. I believe we are in the end of the time of the end......and the church is taking on a visual role to further the kind of peace the UN is promoting. The "man of lawlessness" - christendom who do not teach jehovahs ways - their lawlessness will be exposed. The church is approving LGBTQ and UN policies - that is lawless from Jehovahs perspective. Most churches are voting to accept LGBTQ. Satan is a deceiver and conspiracies are on wall street, politics, banking, child trafficking, etc. Etc. Only the top of the iceberg gets exposed. I was shocked to discover how Cecil John Rhodes took over all south African gold and diamonds (one of richest companies in the world) and at his death - the money was given to (I hope I remember correctly) seven secret organizations which now still have great influence on the finances of the world! (America included). It was a white supremacist British conspiracy! The City of London is like the Vatican with it's own representative in parliament. This is where most of the world's secret financial transactions are done..... money offshore etc. They do not fall under the laws of the country...,, that was also an eye opener. Lots of conspiring deals going on there! This has been going on since the period when Britain became a naval world power and stripped all the colonies of their riches......( the same that China is doing now.) Old money - from the times of Venice, the Dutch east India company and money from privateering in English colonialism - these rich old families still control vast wealth. Many are influential in politics in England and USA and do political deals that benefit themselves. All is not as honest and without corruption as it seems on the surface - dig a little deeper and you will find there is a buddy system amongst the extremely rich..... deals going on all the time. The FED in USA and the usuary systems in EU was part of private deals (conspiracy?) Because he understood that Satan could visibly be ruling the earth in totalitarian way through people who would be inadvertantly working with him ..... he predicted this.....way too early of course..... but I see it happening right now.....

Just to clarify: extreme socialism becomes communism and extreme capitalism also ends up looking like communism. Both end up with a few rich people on the top who further enrich themselves and later end up as dictating all policy - and both end up with a majority of equally poor population underneath. The middle class disappears when a few corporations start to run everything. This is now happened in USA. So our leaders and global corporations have been conniving and enriching themselves in China. So the world's oligarchs can work together on a policy to keep financial control....... which they have done. This is why both communists and capitalists support UN agenda 21 and donate lots of money to further its goals.

They got it right...... but 80 years too early. Atheists do not believe there is a God. So they tend to go to a human philosophy to replace God. This is why socialism and its promises of equality for all is so appealing to atheists..... it replaces other human governments with nice promises .. and this is the reason we now see new "rights" for so-called minorities such as LGBTQ, Islam, and every sort of minority in the new collectivist philosophy.......and patriarchs (bible lovers) are seen as historical oppressors. With a majority of people turning atheist and post modern philosophy gaining traction (as in EU and UN) we may soon see a totalitarian type rule with a surveillance system which will end up like the one in China. Yes..... the socialism part was deceiving.

Interesting - they had pinpointed the UN at that time.....because it is now getting significantly important in the present time. It (un) may even now go in abyss and come up with a new name. All I know is that UN Agenda 2030 cannot work unless they do eventually control policy in the West in a totalitarian way and work with the Chinese/Russian block of alliances to be able to declare "peace and security". They will have surveillance to control people - the way China is now implementing and refining it. The UN and EU like the Chinese model and Google and other digital companies etc is totally cooperating. Google and the other 6 news agencies in the West is already censoring and cutting out news which is not acceptable (following UN agreements as well as EU agreements) . Similar to a police state - we are only getting the propaganda they want us to see.....even in USA - the real issues and the decisions which are made do not get coverage. Very little investigative reporting - news for the masses. The ongoing acrimonious theater between the globalists (social warriors who follow the post modern philosophy- clay) and nationalists (populist who think in conservative patriarchal way and want to maintain borders- iron) is real. It is a last stand against the UN global agenda. The children at school and university students have already been indoctrinated to think about "unity in the world" - which by the way - is a wonderful idea if it was not used by UN atheists to further the UN agenda. Most of the youth remind me of the bolchevists when they say all "patriarchy" must be removed by any means and all minorities must get special rights. In 5 years the world will be a different place when the next lot get to vote..... if it happens.... America must lose its economic power for UN to dictate........ and this is what is going on. Social unrest is being stoked by big money in US from muslim countries and other billionaire's foundations (billionaires who have bought into the utopian idea of UN to unify the world and distribute wealth - so all humans can be happy.) And the weakening of the dollar is ongoing (FED doing unprecedented things- ). While the economy is touted to look good it is crumbling. Stocks look good... but this is kept artificially high. The Babylon the Great saga (Rev 17 & 18) plays out when the eighth king (last king) gets power for a short while and Babylon is destroyed by her political lovers. Thereafter the economy collapses. It is the final and global ending of human control over the earth during Armageddon. The 3 sectors which need to be removed for this to happen is: all religion, all money, all human governments. The first time Babylon is mentioned it is in connection with building of the tower (ziggurats) to false religion (read up about ziggurats) and establishing the first empire. Jehovah confused their languages - hence the name Bavylon- confusion.. The second time Babylon is mentioned it refers to the second empire which had its waters dried up and it fell to the persians in one night. Babylon the Great is one of the three sectors above. The "beasts" depict the world governments one after another and the financial sector is called merchants who trade with ships (go far and wide), and Babylon the Great is the harlot (in the bible a harlot always symbolically refers to unfaithful religion). Rome (while it symbolises an influential part of false religion - and the most despicable part to Jehovah because it has failed to teach the truth about the bible and His name) is politically taking the initiative to bring about the UN agenda together with other religious leaders of "abrahamic faiths ". Canada and Europe are mostly secular so they will welcome one religion idea. When Muslims see Christian's adopting this idea and dropping Jesus, they will be happy because they are one step closer to achieving their goal of religious supremacy on earth... Jews are being slowly displaced because of violent attacks on them and many in Europe are emigrating to israel. This how it may play out: there will be a false religious/ moral unity which all westerners will be expected to approve of ......to get the UN agenda in place. (UN rules regarding gender, Islam etc will be installed.) When this is completed the churches will no longer be needed - surveillance and pressure on peoples (similar to China) will take over to maintain law and order- a false "peace and security" for all. This is already working in China which now has little crime due to a penalty and surveillance system. They are refining it as we speak. The UN agenda 21 wants most people living in cities as soon as possible (to preserve, water, food, land, animals etc. - they will ration food). They want to protect the environment. The environment is more important than people. On local level in USA, the NGOs have already changed environmental laws. .... to make it hard for people to build in rural areas. In cities people can be easily controlled and surveilled. Religion is starting to play it's part in UN agenda. UN agenda is a reality. This is why I think they are succeeding. Their plans are being done in stealth mode....and they do not need money. It is coming from billionaires who own the corporations which will provide the food, water, surveillance etc for the new utopia. It is so surrealist one cannot believe it is true but they have been working on this intensely since the time of George Bush. I will read your other replies when I get back from field service and meeting - then reply and chat further. I see Daniel 11 is now in discussion- I will give my thoughts

Yes, jesus only answered them when matters had to be set straight for the onlookers. I do try to chat with young ones when I am on field service to prepare them for apostates and other shocks. Life is very complicated for young ones these days. The world has much more voice.

No pity for me thank you. I learn from pain and then move on. I hold no grudges or feel self-righteous anger or any if those self-destructive emotions. I am a JW, not because I need a crutch as you are trying to insinuate, but because I understand what they teach and happen to agree with them. I do not claim to be anointed but have enough logic and common sense to see through your ploys. I have seen the same symptoms before .... most 'apostates' fall victim to the same traits. Unfortunately someone close me had them.

I kinda agree with you on that. The surveillance system of China is now the model for the UN..... they are planning it for the West. They will use it to see what you say about the government and what you do. Your financial transactions will be visible and your money can disappear overnight if they do not like you. This is already happening in China. Read up about it. But as I said, these Christian's still trust the political system to solve problems.... by this time they will have given their support for it etc.... they will have the mark of the political system. Just keep in mind.... even if we know what they are planning - it is still speculation on our part. We know that the world empire if false religion is working with UN at present to bring a united religion . People are all putting faith in these institutions to solve problems and bring peace. UN and its coalition will start to rule and turn against its bedfellows - then the UN and the world system will become so oppressive that no life will be saved if jehovah does not step in. Russia and China is also in the mix - Daniel 11:40 onward. It may happen differently..... but part of the scene is set. It can take until 2030.... this is the time-frame the UN set for itself called Agenda 2030.... or it could suddenly escalate because jehovah will put it in mind of UN to turn against religion much faster.

I see them on my TV screen and they really look unapproachable, full of themselves and puffed up. They stay in a 5 star hotel all the time! You have good reason to judge them, find the guilty and send them to jail - just on this one charge alone!

According to your divine plan - the oversight of the divine purpose....there must not be books! No videos! Every anointed will do oversight in front of their computer (because they are all over the world- so they will most probably do oversight on computer) and no books or videos will be published because every anointed will be attached to few thousand people on internet whom they will be teaching. If one of these anointed gets a big head and decides to make a following for himself with his own ideas..... there will be no central oversight to correct apostacy.... brilliant idea! Then you can really get an important role! They are anointed for the job of priesthood but they have not yet been baptized in the death of christ to give up flesh to become priests in heaven. Yes they are part of body of christ but they do not function as priests here on earth..... what do we call them? Father? Mrs priest? Yes- You are not out there feeling sorry for the poor in heart but sitting on internet the entire day calling out a body which does not want to have anything to do with you. Your "priestly function" seems sadly neglected. You do not need the GB to do it if you are a true priest. Get your following and be a priestess to them ! The total impracticality of your gripe with the GB and how you think the 'priests ' should now function indicates to me that you do not understand the divine plan or the divine administration.

You are blatantly making up a falsehood. I did not say we cannot 'argue ' but I spoke about a need for 'prominence'. Two different concepts. Below is what you quoted from what I said: You rewrite what people say in a different way. I do not answer when you do this because you will do this again.

Quite graphic. The children's books also had a picture of an earthquake with the earth opening up and building falling in.

Talk to the circuit overseer. The value of ife is more important than a window. I understand how you feel. If the elders as a body do nothing .....then speak to circuit overseer. I also do not like "glazed" looks. Maybe he just never thought of it before.... so lets give them benefit of the doubt - for now. If you mention that someone might sue if they get shot in future - especially after this warning - it may work to get them moving faster. A new door may be a better idea.

Thanks my dear sister for this article. Modern communism only allows one state religion which it uses to build nationalism. I feel so sorry for our brothers. .... send more news when you have it.

That is exactly why you are here to try to influence the weak and feeble minded with tons of misquoted or misapplied scripture! It is a compulsion which cannot be contained - I have seen this OCD before. I had the most loving brother - 21 years younger than me. He was my child. He came in the truth for only 2 years. Brilliant and gifted. He read Dawkin's books and the next thing ...... he had all the symptoms you have! Same! I recognise the symptoms immediately. Different in approach but same symptoms. It broke my heart to live through it. You can do preaching work as a woman but no! You want a more important role! You will not admit it.... but you want prominence. That is your Achilles heel. I have said so before and your complaints against GB bear it out very clearly. I do it in the field and in my answers at the hall .... and I confess my faith in prayer - where no-one can see me!