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    Arauna got a reaction from Peter Carroll in The Erosion of Dogmatism with Common Sense!   
    Lovely
    Lovely! I saw this item in the news quite a while back.  Lions teach their children to hunt.  Predator mammals are usually taught by parents to hunt. 
    I have seen videos of lionesses protecting the baby of their prey when the male lions want to hunt it.  Of course they eventually die from malnutrition and weakness and are eaten.
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    Arauna reacted to TrueTomHarley in George Benson in Concert - Cardiff, UK   
    I’ve spiffed it up, renamed you, and have put some of it on my own blog, as the first of a multi-part series. The succeeding parts I’ll put here first, however. And if you’re kind enough to say your hubby enjoyed the post, I guess I should tell @pudgy that my wife loved the cartoon about why you shouldn’t be drunk when adopting a dog.
    Alas, the post has earned you one or two ‘MYOB’ responses. Not to worry, though. I’ll run interference for you. I respect you for the courage to say something you know is going to be unpopular.
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    Arauna got a reaction from Pudgy in George Benson in Concert - Cardiff, UK   
    I enjoyed your posting so much - even read it to my husband,
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    Arauna got a reaction from TrueTomHarley in George Benson in Concert - Cardiff, UK   
    I enjoyed your posting so much - even read it to my husband,
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    Arauna reacted to TrueTomHarley in George Benson in Concert - Cardiff, UK   
    Understood
    Trouble is, it’s not in the nature of young people to be cautious. ‘The beauty of young men is their power,’ the verse says, not their caution. This doesn’t mean you are not right in the bulk of what you say. I think you are.
    Yes
    Yes. What you say is both true and well=motivated. You have stated matters well. 
    It’s just that those of creative bent, who may not excel in more practical gifts, are always being urged to tone it down, stay low key, keep their talents under a basket—whereas if your talents lay in putting down carpet, you would be honored in the highest places. Understand, it’s not the honor that is sought—it is the ability to move about freely.
    There are brothers who are craftsmen, who truly excel at their field, and are highly sought after. One of them locally is snapped up by a Fortune 500 company that puts him on their private jet and flies him to their various facilities, treating him like royalty. Nobody ever dreams it is an improper tending to his career or that he is unhealthily inflating his ego.
    My quip for the longest time has been ‘if it pays, I’m not good at it. If I’m good at it, it doesn’t pay.’
    ’How come you never taught me practical things?’ I said to my aged dad, who was handy. ‘I did,’ the amiable fellow said, long removed from his former taciturn days. ‘You just weren’t paying attention that day.’
    I think he fell for the mantra then in vogue, ‘to get a good job, get a good education.’ You can always hire people to do that lesser stuff for you.
    I have what I need. I don’t complain. I do let off steam from time to time, but that’s like the Eastern European man who went to the police to assure them that the political views of his parrot were not his.
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in “Yahweh” or “Jehovah”?   
    Jeho-ram, Jeho-saphat, Jehoaikim, jehoi-ada; jeho-nadab; Jehonathan; Jehorab; Jeho-shua; 
     
    These are all names which have the name of Jeho-vah in them.
    Jah - is the short version of Jehovah's name such as in  - Hallelujah
    Then one also has names with the Jah in it - 
    Jah-aziel; and many other. 
     
    So the Israelite names should give you a good idea of the pronunciation of God's name!
     
     
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    Arauna reacted to Chioke Lin in “Yahweh” or “Jehovah”?   
    I'm sure a serious question would first need to be asked, and not some long-drawn opinion in order to have a meaningful bible discussion, and not just an argument generated by animosity. No Christian is supposed to argue, much like it's done here. So, it makes me wonder, how many consider themselves Christians.
    But, this "topic" is about God's name, not some kind of, circular way at criticism. We can all do that without breaking a sweat.
    It seems your presentation on how the name of God sounded seems a little outlandish, since we don't know exactly how the tone was for praising God in ancient times. 
    We need to consider, how scribes manipulated the YHWH to make it seem to look like something else. Regardless if we are scholars or rabbi's, the professionals have a better understanding on how the YHWH was formed.
    I AM THAT I AM
    When Moses met God at the burning bush, Moses asked God what his name was. God responded, “I Am That I Am” (Exodus 3:13-14). In Hebrew the name is spelled YHWH, or Yahweh. In the several centuries before Christ, Jews were not allowed to pronounce the name because it was holy. When they came to the name Yahweh in the Scripture, they said Adonai (‘the Lord’). See the list of names for God at the entry for God.
    It wouldn’t matter to a Hebrew. If God’s name came up, they substituted God's personal name out of fear. Those that God favored, had no problem praising God without fear.
    Scholars recognize where scribes wanted to reconfigure the YHWH to mean something else.
    Translators of the Old Testament have not agreed upon the correct translation of the name Yahweh. Since it is translated into the Greek as kurios, which means, “Lord,” many have translated Yahweh as “LORD.” However, ‘Adonai, which is best translated “Lord,” appears with Yahweh in various instances. The King James Version, for example, translates Yahweh as “God,” and ‘Adonai as “Lord.” Some modern translators have chosen to maintain the use of Yahweh. The name Jehovah has been judged by translators to be unacceptable. This name arose due to the Jewish practice of not pronouncing Yahweh because of Leviticus 24:16, “He that blasphemes the name of Yahweh shall surely be put to death” (Leviticus 24:16). This warning against a vain or blasphemous use of the name was taken in an absolute sense, especially after Israel’s exile to Babylon (Amos 6:10). Because of this, when reading the Old Testament, the Jews substituted either Elohim or ‘Adonai for Yahweh. From this, the practice of adding the vowels of ‘Adonai to YHWH (JeHoWaH) became established.
     Nehemia Gordon Findings, found the name Yahovah. So, the substitution of the J for Y and “e” for “a” is appropriate in the English language.
    Now if the discussion is going to extend, to how we arrive at those substitutions from "a" to "e" then we need to understand how the language transformed within the Jews.

    The professionals also have a good explanation for that transformation. So, in English, the name of God is Jehovah, and it's appropriate under the Hebrew scheme of language. 
     
     
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    Arauna reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in “Yahweh” or “Jehovah”?   
    CURRENCY and FAMILIARITY = MAN MADE TRADITION 
    CUSTOM = man made tradition.  
    And then JW org / GB / Watchtower, pretend to be 'no part of this world' SO WHY FOLLOW TRADITIONS OF MEN.
    we have retained the form "Jehovah" because of people's familiarity = MAN MADE TRADITION, or worse.
    Moreover, it preserves, equally with other forms, the four letters of the tetragrammaton JHVH.
    Now I was taught by JWs that YHWH was the four letters of the tetragrammaton.
    So one of them has to be a lie. 
    And all the time they admit that 
    While inclining to view the pronunciation "Yah-weh'"  as the more correct way,
     
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    Arauna reacted to Witness in “Yahweh” or “Jehovah”?   
    You mean, like cart witnessing; where you stand still, read the cell phone, and do not respond in depth to any asking serious thought-provoking questions from anybody, but direct them to the endless depth of misunderstanding at jw org?  You gotta agree, that's a pretty easy hobby. 🙂
    "Let your faithful love come to me, Lord,
    your salvation, as you promised.
    42 Then I can answer the one who taunts me,
    for I trust in your word.
    43 Never take the word of truth from my mouth,
    for I hope in your judgments.
    44 I will always obey your instruction,
    forever and ever.
    45 I will walk freely in an open place
    because I study your precepts.
    46 I will speak of your decrees before kings
    and not be ashamed. - (you know, those "kings" who live at 1 Kings Drive in Tuxedo, New York?)
    47 I delight in your commands,
    which I love.
    48 I will lift up my hands to your commands,
    which I love,
    and will meditate on your statutes.
    Remember your word to your servant;
    you have given me hope through it.
    50 This is my comfort in my affliction:
    Your promise has given me life.
    51 The arrogant constantly ridicule me,
    but I do not turn away from your instruction.
    52 Lord, I remember your judgments from long ago
    and find comfort.
    53 Fury seizes me because of the wicked
    who reject your instruction.
    54 Your statutes are the theme of my song
    during my earthly life.
    Lord, I remember your name in the night,
    and I obey your instruction.
    56 This is my practice:
    I obey your precepts."  Ps 119
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    Arauna reacted to BroRando in The truth about Armageddon...   
    I wasn't speaking about Gog and Magog since it is post millennial... what you're speaking about is actually about Gog of Magog. 
    Gog of Magog in the Book of Ezekiel represents Satan's Entire Political system of things. It is Pre- Millennial. Once the Great Tribulation starts, Jesus separates the sheep and goats and then he turns his attention towards Satan's Entire Political system of things.
    Satan's Earthly Organization has many facets and allies that work in its behalf to starve, maim, and kill anyone who refuses to receive its mark. "It puts under compulsion all people—the small and the great, the rich and the poor, the free and the slaves—that these should be marked on their right hand or on their forehead,  and that nobody can buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name." (Rev 13:16)
    The head of this wicked body is the United Nations. It deceives mankind making the claim it can deliver peace, dignity and equality on a healthy planet. It constantly tries to conform itself into an angel of light, even though it is the one causing the chaos. "And all those who dwell on the earth will worship it. From the founding of the world, not one of their names has been written in the scroll of life of the Lamb who was slaughtered." (Rev 13:8) This talking head by its cunning, is spewing bitter and poisonous propaganda worldwide since 1919 as the masses of humankind will be 'all too eager' to drink its Wormwood:
    It has 17 Goals to Transform Our World by 2030 : "The Sustainable Development Goals are a call for action by all countries – poor, rich and middle-income – to promote prosperity while protecting the planet. They recognize that ending poverty must go hand-in-hand with strategies that build economic growth and address a range of social needs including education, health, social protection, and job opportunities, while tackling climate change and environmental protection."
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    Arauna got a reaction from Thinking in George Benson in Concert - Cardiff, UK   
    Lol. If he was in my congregation I would say nothing. His choices are his own.  I would listen to him at a get-together for sure.... although the smoothness in his voice is no longer there. 3 hours of it may be a bit much for me. 
    But I said what I said because I come here to share an opinion which I may not Express any where else....
    I know many young JW kids who were practicing singing during this lock-down. One used to be my street -work partner.  She wrote a Russian song (She is Abghasian), she is in her early 30s but looks 20 and is stunningly beautiful, is sweet, very spiritual and puts Jehovah first. Well, she wrote the music... paid an arranger and sent me the recording.... which I absolutely love! 
    She put it on internet.... and she keeps busy... she is now busy with the second one. low-key busy with her art. 
    I know we are too close to Armageddon for her to build a career and she knows this.... I have told her to be cautious....discussed her art and ambitions.. I believe I am doing the right thing before Jehovah to caution her. 
    I myself will maybe sing about once a month...  for friends... that's it.
    But I see the danger signals with another young singer. He has a deep baritone/bass..... my favourite voice..... His voice is magnificent.... He will be a fantastic opera buffa singer... he has agility, power and also has developed his higher ranges on his own by singing a lot!  Obsessed with singing..... so he would be an excellent candidate for this world because he has drive! .... so excellent material ... but he is very poor. Cannot afford fancy expensive classes and lives away from the capital city to get a teacher worth his salt. 
    So I see him on Facebook putting up badly chosen pop songs with bad words, songs that are not bringing out the beauty in his voice... and he never talks about spiritual things.... just focussed on getting a few half-baked gigs. Time is running out on all of us..... he should focus more on spiritual things and he will be able to crow for eternity.
    I speak to young people who I see are ambitious..... and I say it is not the time NOW!  
    To be honest.... I do not think any of them will get the chance to show their metal....... new lockdowns will plague them and frustrate them.  A singer just likes to sing..... like birds do it naturally. We are living in a very unnatural world now.... not the right time and place.
    Older ones should mentor younger ones to be the best they can be under these new circumstances. 
    I lost another brilliant friend of mine. Plays the piano- most difficult pieces and accompanies himself while singing. Lovely strong classical voice. Teaches at a university....... but became apostate. He was like a son to me..,,, he used to play for me and we used to have sing-song together. I have not seen him for ten years.  
    Football, singing and a few of these professions take their toll on the young ones.  ..... that is all I wanted to say.  
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Searching for the earliest mention of the Israelite god, "Yahweh" (Tetragrammaton) aka "Jehovah" in Modern English   
    This archeologist in the video gave the reading of it as he learnt it.  NO scholar knows the true pronunciation of hieroglyphs before 500 BCE.  They are using the Hellenistic  pronunciation of it which was deciphered off of the Rosetta Stone. Rosetta stone dates from 2nd century BCE.
    There are usually BIG changes in languages over 1200 years.  (1500 BCE to 200 BCE).  Look at the English pronunciation today and compare it to the pronunciation of Shakespearian English in Elizabethan era (only 400 years ago).  
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    Arauna got a reaction from Peter Carroll in Searching for the earliest mention of the Israelite god, "Yahweh" (Tetragrammaton) aka "Jehovah" in Modern English   
    Thank you dear! The JW article puts it in a slightly later time but is very well balanced.  It also incorporates some of the information (link)  presented by Mr. LIN. Whenever there is a dispute about anything I always find that the GB is spot on and gives the best explanation!  I am impressed.  Detractors take note!  This article indicates the research which goes into each article.... and the commentary cannot be faulted. 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Pudgy in George Benson in Concert - Cardiff, UK   
    Lol. If he was in my congregation I would say nothing. His choices are his own.  I would listen to him at a get-together for sure.... although the smoothness in his voice is no longer there. 3 hours of it may be a bit much for me. 
    But I said what I said because I come here to share an opinion which I may not Express any where else....
    I know many young JW kids who were practicing singing during this lock-down. One used to be my street -work partner.  She wrote a Russian song (She is Abghasian), she is in her early 30s but looks 20 and is stunningly beautiful, is sweet, very spiritual and puts Jehovah first. Well, she wrote the music... paid an arranger and sent me the recording.... which I absolutely love! 
    She put it on internet.... and she keeps busy... she is now busy with the second one. low-key busy with her art. 
    I know we are too close to Armageddon for her to build a career and she knows this.... I have told her to be cautious....discussed her art and ambitions.. I believe I am doing the right thing before Jehovah to caution her. 
    I myself will maybe sing about once a month...  for friends... that's it.
    But I see the danger signals with another young singer. He has a deep baritone/bass..... my favourite voice..... His voice is magnificent.... He will be a fantastic opera buffa singer... he has agility, power and also has developed his higher ranges on his own by singing a lot!  Obsessed with singing..... so he would be an excellent candidate for this world because he has drive! .... so excellent material ... but he is very poor. Cannot afford fancy expensive classes and lives away from the capital city to get a teacher worth his salt. 
    So I see him on Facebook putting up badly chosen pop songs with bad words, songs that are not bringing out the beauty in his voice... and he never talks about spiritual things.... just focussed on getting a few half-baked gigs. Time is running out on all of us..... he should focus more on spiritual things and he will be able to crow for eternity.
    I speak to young people who I see are ambitious..... and I say it is not the time NOW!  
    To be honest.... I do not think any of them will get the chance to show their metal....... new lockdowns will plague them and frustrate them.  A singer just likes to sing..... like birds do it naturally. We are living in a very unnatural world now.... not the right time and place.
    Older ones should mentor younger ones to be the best they can be under these new circumstances. 
    I lost another brilliant friend of mine. Plays the piano- most difficult pieces and accompanies himself while singing. Lovely strong classical voice. Teaches at a university....... but became apostate. He was like a son to me..,,, he used to play for me and we used to have sing-song together. I have not seen him for ten years.  
    Football, singing and a few of these professions take their toll on the young ones.  ..... that is all I wanted to say.  
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    Arauna reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in “Yahweh” or “Jehovah”?   
    *** New World Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures, 1950, Foreword, p.25 ***
    While inclining to view the pronunciation "Yah-weh'"  as the more correct way,
    But Mr Carroll still advertises the company name. 
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    Arauna reacted to Chioke Lin in Searching for the earliest mention of the Israelite god, "Yahweh" (Tetragrammaton) aka "Jehovah" in Modern English   
    Are you referring to the video? I can see many discrepancies with it. If you mean, me posting other people's published works, I will direct you to them. The video presenter for one hand no hieroglyphic experience. He mentioned something similar on another video. He was shown, how that badly deteriorated column read. 
    I have the video, but, it appears, it takes forever to download. Either way, I didn't find myself in a tizzy. Let's keep the remarks friendly.
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    Arauna reacted to Chioke Lin in Searching for the earliest mention of the Israelite god, "Yahweh" (Tetragrammaton) aka "Jehovah" in Modern English   
    This is true. That's why I stick with the classics. They knew better how to deal with understanding.
    In the first place, the known linguistic facts in the case need to be listed and dated. The first of these is that the oldest authenticated form of the divine name is the tetragrammaton itself as it occurs in line 18 of the Moabite Stone of the ninth century B.c. Cowley's attempt to deny this2 since it was against his own theory proves too much. His argument would eliminate the name of Israel's God from the stone, but it should naturally appear somewhere in relation to Chemosh, and line 18 is a most fitting point for that to happen. Second, his own etymology posits one unknown quantity to explain another, which leaves the tetragrammaton as decidedly the easiest alternative, with the result that this form of the name emerges with a double emphasis as the oldest-known example of it.

    It appears, in 1926, Leroy Waterman would have agreed with Nehemia Gordon. The above goes toward "hieroglyphics and cuneiform" "Aramaic and Hebrew script" not people. That's been my idealistic view all along.
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    Arauna got a reaction from Thinking in The truth about Armageddon...   
    No, you are taking a little offense at an impersonal discussion.  We do not know you personally....so we cannot damage you personally,  we can only reply to what you say.  So far it has been nice to talk to you in a very forthright way.   If we all have to hide what we think then it stifles free talking and openness. Some cultures are more prone to save face and others are not. My culture is almost challenging...... lol.  So please accept that our intent (well my own is) is only to up build my fellows here and open up that which needs more discussion from every side. . When I see a thought that is different to mine I will clarify what I think about it.... it is only by sharing honest thoughts that our thoughts are adjusted..... when we see new perspectives.  We learn here all the time. 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Thinking in The truth about Armageddon...   
    I have preached this many times when I have reached this teaching  stage of  discussion regarding Jehovahs purpose and justice.... because it shows the LOGIC of Jehovah (every aspect of his actions have been well planned. ........Having the foresight to plan to test all "perfect" humans like he did Adam.   Him having the foresight to rule humankind in complete justice and remove those with an incomplete heart.   At the end of thousand years jehovah will test each perfect person, just like he did Adam....... as a perfect human being they will have the wonderful  opportunity to prove their faithfulness.
    The bible itself shows that jehovah will release the demons again and an indeterminable number of people (like sand of the sea), will rebel ( like Adam did)......or in greater numbers and with similar intent  as Gog and Magog  -  to disrupt Godly rulership.... but Jehovah has proven that humans cannot rule the earth successfully - so they will go straight to second death.... by their own "perfect" choice. 
     
    I see your point too! But we cannot be covering  all "possible scholarly arguments" when talking to people about Jehovahs' purposes.  Jesus is a good example to us. He knew the pharisees were argumentative and likely to divert attention from his message when they put themselves amongst the people.  
    Consequently, he knew their bad intent, so he only answered them when the ordinary people, who were genuinely interested, could benefit from his reply to the learned pharisees. 
    I have already preached to a group of Muslims where they all keep on listening ... despite the fact that one person is saying out loud that I am a false prophet.  If they want to listen .... they will listen and go and think about it! 
    We preach to those who want to listen and to those whom jehovah is drawing to Himself.  We are not better than Jesus are we? We know that very few rich and powerful individuals listened to Jesus.  They did not need him.... they wanted to destroy him. 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Pudgy in George Benson in Concert - Cardiff, UK   
    Yea -very well!   He is talking the talk but is he walking the talk?
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    Arauna reacted to Chioke Lin in Searching for the earliest mention of the Israelite god, "Yahweh" (Tetragrammaton) aka "Jehovah" in Modern English   
    Ironically, the person in the video wasn't an archeologist. He got his master’s degree in archeology after studying in Israel for 10 years. Before that, he just supported a few digs. He didn't know anything about how to study archeology.
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Searching for the earliest mention of the Israelite god, "Yahweh" (Tetragrammaton) aka "Jehovah" in Modern English   
    I saw a historical discrepancy and said what I thought.  Sorry to get you all in a tizzy about this..... I thought you would just find it interesting that there is a discrepancy - actually 2.
    I liked the link @Chioke Lin gave us: 
    "Among ancient Egyptian designations for types of foreign peoples in the New Kingdom Period (1550–1070 BC), the term Shasu occurs fairly frequently. It is generally accepted that the term Shasu means nomads or Bedouin people, referring primarily to the nomadic peoples of Syria-Palestine. There are two hieroglyphic references in New Kingdom Period texts to an area called "the land of the Shasu of Yahweh." Except for the Old Testament, these are the oldest references found in any ancient texts to the God Yahweh.It is very likely that the Egyptians of the New Kingdom Period classified all of the ancient Edomites, Ammonites, Moabites, Amalekites, Midianites, Kenites, Hapiru, and Israelites as Shasu.

    There is even a reference dating to ca. 1250 BC in Papyrus Anastasi I to a group of giant Shasu living in Canaan who may be identified with the giants encountered by the Israelites at the time of the Exodus. Clearly the Egyptians knew about Yahweh as can be seen in the Soleb and Amarah-West topographical lists, but they did not worship him, and they apparently did not want to worship him."
    This indicates as the librarian said : that the inscription could have been of a later date. Since Amenhotep did not rule in 1500BCE era. 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Searching for the earliest mention of the Israelite god, "Yahweh" (Tetragrammaton) aka "Jehovah" in Modern English   
    Agreed, right after the flood  everyone were nomads but later as clans grew in groups they would later become nations with city-states - such as the Edomites (offspring from Esau), Amonites and Moabites (offspring of Lot) etc. Later on there were still nomads roaming about and they lived in areas which were not occupied by cities. In Canaan the different Canaanite nations occupied specific areas. Joseph was picked up and sold in Egypt by a group of Ishmaelites /Midianites who were offspring from Abraham.  By this time there were many caravans which were travelling merchants who sold goods and travelled around different trade routs. 
    About 800 years after the flood - Egypt was a massive country comprising different tribes (at least 20 Nomes - states with governors - maybe even different dialects) and even  Ethiopia was already a nation.  It was in this time that Jehovah led Israel out of Egypt in the exodus.  800 years after flood is a loooong time.  Nations had formed and wars were everywhere. 
    The archeologist mentioned the inscription which referred to NOMADS of Jahweh which the Pharoah had conquered.  He speculated that it was the Israelites AFTER  the exodus......as the exodus took place +- 1512 BCE.....  this  speculation is not based on the reality.  Israel Never went back to Egypt after the exodus (but a break away group before the exodus could have become nomads).  If there were a group of nomads who had Jehwah or jahweh as their god they could also have been another nomadic group which split off from other peoples after the flood and remained in pockets and travelled around.  He says this because the inscription is dated to the 15th century but then he uses the wrong Egyptian king! which sat on the throne much later! 
    Today there are pockets of Africans in North East Africa who have Jewish customs. Apart from Ethiopia there are other tribes. They must have become proselytes at one time or had contact with Israel and or split off from other tribes who had these customs. The traditions were carried over from generation to generation.
    This kind of thing makes for very interesting history.
     
    I do not know if you deliberately misunderstand me.  No - I am not saying the hieroglyphs are not 1500 years BCE or that the Name is wrong.  
    Let me put it this way - I do not expect a gynecologists to know everything about heart of eye problems. I do not expect a bone doctor to know a gynies business. 
    Similarly and archeologist usually specializes in one field.... .  I do not know the field of this archeologist but I am thankful he cares about the bible and Jehovah's name.
    Unfortunately he did sloppy biblical history about the inscription.  We are supposed to be the bible students are we not? And therefore I say he was wrong to say it was inscribed by the Israelites AFTER the exodus.  It does not make sense.   
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    Arauna reacted to The Librarian in Searching for the earliest mention of the Israelite god, "Yahweh" (Tetragrammaton) aka "Jehovah" in Modern English   
    Genuine? The guy showed you exactly how he got there... where it is, who first dug into it....the entire site... other examples and then the EXACT column with the exact words......
    I will accept it as genuine. Just as I'm sure the White house columns exist although I've never touched them myself. I've only seen videos.
     
    Proof of the 'that' name? How much clearer would you expect an enemy Pharoah to be?
    I seriously doubt he would have been able to add a postscript for future English readers what the preferred pronunciation and lettering in a then unknown (not even created yet) language should be. This is why I am steering clear of the whole YHWH vs. Jehovah debate. (that is a different thread)
     
    I find it fascinating just as it is.... some Pharoah in Ancient Egypt.... knew these same Israelites were enemies and even referred to them just as the Bible explained.
     
    This alone invalidates SO many ludicrous claims about the origins of the "Name" that it is an incredible find.
     
    What more do people need? 
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