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    Arauna reacted to Witness in Should true Christians use the word "Disaster"?   
    Thank you, but what I understand about the meaning of "Jehovah" makes perfect sense to me.  If you feel the need to justify using it, it is your choice.  
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    Arauna got a reaction from Anna in Memorial 2020 during covid-19 lockdown   
    No- we think on those symbols and the life it presents for us. By the death of christ we receive opportunity to life everlasting - we think about the last hours of christ, his suffering and loyalty to jehovah. We do not believe as the Catholics do in transsubstatiation -  that the wine supernaturally turns into real blood. So we do not find it gory.......
    The Israelites left slavery and were set free on passover when the passover lamb was slaughtered and blood put on doors.  We were set free from everlasting death when Jesus (the passover lamb) was slaughtered.
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in "THERE'S MORE MONEY GOING OUT, THAN COMING IN"...Except for Stephen Lett   
    Trying to make a case where there is none. Mischief by conjecture.... 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Thinking in Memorial 2020 during covid-19 lockdown   
    Thank Jehovah for that!
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Memorial 2020 during covid-19 lockdown   
    No- we think on those symbols and the life it presents for us. By the death of christ we receive opportunity to life everlasting - we think about the last hours of christ, his suffering and loyalty to jehovah. We do not believe as the Catholics do in transsubstatiation -  that the wine supernaturally turns into real blood. So we do not find it gory.......
    The Israelites left slavery and were set free on passover when the passover lamb was slaughtered and blood put on doors.  We were set free from everlasting death when Jesus (the passover lamb) was slaughtered.
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    Arauna got a reaction from JW Insider in Memorial 2020 during covid-19 lockdown   
    No- we think on those symbols and the life it presents for us. By the death of christ we receive opportunity to life everlasting - we think about the last hours of christ, his suffering and loyalty to jehovah. We do not believe as the Catholics do in transsubstatiation -  that the wine supernaturally turns into real blood. So we do not find it gory.......
    The Israelites left slavery and were set free on passover when the passover lamb was slaughtered and blood put on doors.  We were set free from everlasting death when Jesus (the passover lamb) was slaughtered.
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    Arauna got a reaction from JW Insider in "THERE'S MORE MONEY GOING OUT, THAN COMING IN"...Except for Stephen Lett   
    Trying to make a case where there is none. Mischief by conjecture.... 
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    Arauna reacted to Witness in Should true Christians use the word "Disaster"?   
    To each his own.  But, I'm not referring to days of the week or months.  I'm talking about the Almighty God,  YHVH.  There's quite a big difference, wouldn't you say?  I have no intention of mocking Him, by using a hybrid name developed by men. 
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    Arauna reacted to TrueTomHarley in Memorial 2020 during covid-19 lockdown   
    Most of these churches that defy government quarantine restrictions do so because they see the government being opportunistic—‘never let a crisis go to waste.’ They are intensely political on the right, celebrate the Bill of Rights, and they fear that government surveillance, monitoring, restrictions will not revert to normal after the crisis has passed. To them, the crisis is the wedge to introduce permanent restriction of freedom. Some see it as a deliberate move to so decimate capitalism that all that will be left is for socialism to take the helm. A fringe of these people even think the ‘crisis’ is manufactured for exactly that purpose—to extend control and restrictive means of government over all persons. And don’t get them going about Bill Gates!
    None of this is so absurd to be dismissed out of hand. See how popular Bernie Sanders is, or even Elizabeth Warren. The trouble with conspiracy theories is that once a few of them turn out to be true it becomes so much easier to swallow anything coming down the pipe. I am glad that we really don’t have to worry about it. We never put our trust in human institutions, so if it turns out that there are machinations amongst them, it does not unsettle us to the degree that it unsettles people who do put full trust in human self-rule. Nor do we look to human institutions for ‘staying power.’ If they don’t go down this way, they will go down that way. All we have to do is stay loyal to God, no matter what, and let the chips fall where they may. When push comes to shove, this life is not the ‘real’ life of 1 Timothy 6:19.
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    Arauna got a reaction from JW Insider in Memorial 2020 during covid-19 lockdown   
    Those bunker videos were hypothetical....... but we do not know what lies in future.......this type of  lockdown may become a regular feature of life with people standing in line for food.  
    We now have curfew at night, which makes sense, because there has been some looting at night due to people not having money to buy food.  Supply chains are severely disrupted and many small businesses 'killed'. 
    So curfews could become a regular occurrence when there is shortage of food.
    :  6 I heard what sounded like a voice in the midst of the four living creatures say: “A quart of wheat for a de·narʹi·us and three quarts of barley for a de·narʹi·us; and do not harm the olive oil and the wine.” 
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from ComfortMyPeople in JW's in Pakistan accused of Blasphemy some years ago. Does anyone know what became of them?   
    Blasphemy is a death offence.  It is happening daily in Pakistan. If they do not like your face or want your possessions or daughter, they accuse you of having said something against Allah or quran 
    Pakistan is a terrible place. When Pakistanis come to western countries they do not show this extremistic face  but in Pakistan - this is the rule of sharia law.
    In Islam it is also a death offence to preach another God. This is why one is not allowed to take in a bible to these countries where Islam is the state religion.  Saudi Arabia and Iran comes to mind. The state randomly checks citizen's  cell phones when they come back from foreign trips - just like in China.
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    Arauna got a reaction from Melinda Mills in Memorial 2020 during covid-19 lockdown   
    Those bunker videos were hypothetical....... but we do not know what lies in future.......this type of  lockdown may become a regular feature of life with people standing in line for food.  
    We now have curfew at night, which makes sense, because there has been some looting at night due to people not having money to buy food.  Supply chains are severely disrupted and many small businesses 'killed'. 
    So curfews could become a regular occurrence when there is shortage of food.
    :  6 I heard what sounded like a voice in the midst of the four living creatures say: “A quart of wheat for a de·narʹi·us and three quarts of barley for a de·narʹi·us; and do not harm the olive oil and the wine.” 
     
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    Arauna reacted to JW Insider in Should true Christians use the word "Disaster"?   
    Hmmm. Do you refuse to say Hades or Tartarus as used in the Bible?
    What about the pagan source of the word "Amen" or even the English word "holy?"
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    Arauna reacted to b4ucuhear in Should true Christians use the word "Disaster"?   
    Sometimes, I think we go overboard in insinuating the worst for words that have lost their original meaning in modern parlance and that have become just an expression for which there doesn't seem to be a better alternative. Years ago, (maybe even for some today) it was considered bad form to use the word "fortune" or "luck" - insinuating if we used those words we were invoking or crediting the "god of luck." Which to most people would seem absurd, but not to all - "unfortunately." I was reminded of how many people were on that bandwagon (along with other so-called deep insights people had dug up) when in our weekly Bible reading, I came across Genesis 30:11: "Then Leah said: "With good fortune!" So she name him Gad." Other translations use the word "luck." Was Leah a false worshipper who believed in the god of luck? Was she being disloyal, meriting capital punishment for worshipping/invoking false deities? Or could it be that sometimes a word-is a word-is a word. And everyone knows how it is used without reading all kinds of nefarious connotations to a word that simply doesn't have a better alternative? Nowadays, to most people it means that something happens by chance as in "time and unforeseen circumstance" - (which would be an unwieldy mouthful to use casually). Sometimes we just need to lighten up. 
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    Arauna reacted to Anna in Memorial 2020 during covid-19 lockdown   
    I had no doubts that we wouldn't be one of those who defied the authorities in this case. Defying the authorities because they forbid us to preach and meet because they don't agree with us is scriptural. But this of course is not the current situation, and we obey the superior authorities because they have ours and everyone else's health and  best interests at heart. I wonder if any of us ever foresaw that there would be a valid reason to stop gathering together, lol.  It also made me think that zoom and similar conference meetings may be used during the GT, and that those examples of meeting in the woods/attic/basement might be moot....
    But I know there are ways in which such conference meetings can be potentially hijacked....so maybe it could be the woods after all...
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    Arauna reacted to JW Insider in Memorial 2020 during covid-19 lockdown   
    I think you have stated the question very well and have already implied the answers.
    Yes, some see it as a ritual. But it really is a ritual, just as baptism is a ritual that is not optional. Some religions also treat all wedding ceremonies and even funerals as rituals. Some have different or additional rites and rituals. For one who considers himself or herself anointed, it is like baptism: not an optional ritual.
    As you (and the WT said) the important thing is not to see the ritual as something more than it is. It is not a necessary part of salvation, but an opportunity for a personal and public expression of faith, just like baptism. Although it seems appropriate that members of the other sheep should joyfully celebrate such expressions of faith by the anointed, it is too solemn to be considered a celebration. It is often more solemn than some Witness funerals. There is such quiet and seriousness, that no one even seems to notice if someone, somewhere in the Hall, had partaken. Sometimes, I only notice whether all the glasses, initially filled to exactly the same height, come back to the front table with one of them having less wine in it. And then I wonder if there was a partaker, or if some sister got some wine accidentally spilled on her dress.
    For a time, the Watchtower made it clear that persons who were of the "other sheep" class, were not invited to the Memorial. Some time later, it was made clear that they would not partake of the emblems and they were invited to join.
    Sometimes (rarely) we hear the objection that the other sheep only attend in order to show that they are refusing to follow Jesus command to "Take, Eat!" and "Take. Drink!"  Or even as if we are only there to physically reject the symbols of Jesus' ransom, I have answered that this is just as much a way for the other sheep to express their faith in an earthly paradise under the rule of Jesus and the 144,000 but separate from them.
    I have seen Memorials where the scene is "over-the-top" ritualistic when the emblems are offered and refused by the speaker. It can seem even more so where the speaker partakes, and it looks like the changing of the guard at Buckingham when a specially choreographed arrangement is made on the stage for up to 4 servers and the speaker to pass the emblems among themselves, with the speaker in the middle and a table off to each side.
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in "THERE'S MORE MONEY GOING OUT, THAN COMING IN"...Except for Stephen Lett   
    Trying to create a story  and hype where there is none..... not worthy of an answer.
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in "THERE'S MORE MONEY GOING OUT, THAN COMING IN"...Except for Stephen Lett   
    Let me explain what I mean in a better way:
    In this 'world' there is an inescapable hierarchy which God does not like at all. In this world, a person who can kick a ball well, sing well or write a silly repetition of notes with unintelligible words, can make millions of dollars because of an invention called TV.  A person with true talent can find his scientific inventions stolen by others of which Tesla is a good example. This world is an unfair and unjust place.
    God hates this narcicism and bias. Also the worship of position/status and of individuals. This wicked system which gives the corrupt more power - yes it is the satanic world in which we now live which has a hierarchy and sometimes a class system with extreme 'legal' inequalities. The rich are favoured :- even in the USA, the so-called example of a constitutional republic or representative democracy to the world.
    Under Jehovah,  humans and angel's are absolutely equal under the same moral standards and exact same moral law and Jehovah's judgment on all humans is unbias with no favoritism........  whatever talent you have - it does not give you leeway. If you disobey you will have the penalty of your tresspass.
    All men are therefore equal under God. His law is exercised equally for all......... it is true equality. Jehovahs principles are applied / enforced consistently and equally, no matter if you are male, female, black, white, talented, or untalented, great crowd or anointed.  Do not be misled, what you sow, you reap. Disobedience to God can never being favour.
    Many countries have equality for black peoples........ but these people do not have justice. Why ? Because the law is not equally enforced. (Human laws can even favour a certain class or be applied in draconian fashion - i.e.the new LGBTQ laws. If you forget a pronoun you can now lose your job or receive a prison sentence in some countries.)
    I feel and believe I am totally ''equal" to others under the law of jehovah. What humans do is mostly unfair and unjust - that is a no-brainer. Even in the congregation sometimes you will find injustice due to imperfection - even if we know Jehovahs principles better than most people.
    Under the ransom sacrifice we receive mercy due to our imperfection. If we do not accept the ransom it does not work for us. If we accept it, we can then become approved before jehovah. So individual choice to put ourselves under this arrangement and obedience to its principles can give us a chance for everlasting life.
     
    All men are therefore equal under God. The angels and anointed may get different 'assignments' than us because of having heavenly bodies........but they are subject to the same laws. If we obey their instructions,  we are not obeying an angel or the slave....... we are obeying jehovah.
    Yes, the congregation is not yet perfect and inconsistencies occur......but our cooperation indicates a willingness to obey.  Self-sacrifice was the example set by Jesus....... so sometimes we have to self-sacrifice our pride, ego ...... no matter how talented or brilliant we may think we are. 
    In this world the egotistical, unscrupulous, grossly immoral and brazen humans flourish. Soon Jehovah's just and kind rule will be here. 
     
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    Arauna reacted to TrueTomHarley in Russia Overturns First Jehovah’s Witnesses Convictions   
    No, you blockhead. 
    It rescued postal systems throughout the world, most of whom are on the ropes, as they have been in the United States forever, and they bought us serious good will from the superior authorities which may prove useful some day.
    “They will sit, each one under his vine and under his pork chop tree and hopefully learn some sense, or if not, at least some decorum.”
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in WATCHTOWER JANUARY 2020 Study 5.   
    Not true: "who is the F&DS ?" Is the question in the bible for all to read at Matt 24:45....... This means every individual reading this scripture must identify them for themself who this slave is........ This slave would be there during the perousia...... so not hard to figure out. 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in The 1000 year reign   
    YOU are an enemy of ALL JWs.....  I hope everyone here can understand  that, especially those who encourage you.
    You are mad/angry because as a woman you are not allowed to 'rule' now. So you became a Jezebel. 
     
    I have seen and heard horror stories of  tyranny in Africa - you bandy these words around like candy. You have no idea what true tyranny is.... you offer over-the -top expressions which indicate extreme emotional duress. It is I who feel sorry for you because of your loss of spiritual clarity.
    I will definitely know if I am oppressed. .......but I do not feel oppressed .... because I have no fleshly desires or ambitions within the JW organization or the world. I am just happy and content to serve Jehovah
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    Arauna got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in Russia Overturns First Jehovah’s Witnesses Convictions   
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    TRUE...... but we are not foolish to have loyalty to jehovah.  At least they could see that we are not just a few hundred people on the earth....and not all Americans...... the enemy....... but we are present in many countries. The postage stamps told them that.
    1 cor: Because a foolish thing of God is wiser than men, and a weak thing of God is stronger than men.
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    Arauna reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Russia Overturns First Jehovah’s Witnesses Convictions   
    .... probably in expectation of pork chops.
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    Arauna reacted to TrueTomHarley in Russia Overturns First Jehovah’s Witnesses Convictions   
    Works well with me. There are some others who would use it to bolster their claim to ‘true anointed’ status.
     
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    Arauna reacted to TrueTomHarley in Russia Overturns First Jehovah’s Witnesses Convictions   
    It is great news.
    I certainly hope I will not be forced to admit that @James Thomas Rook Jr. is a true prophet 
     
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