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    Arauna got a reaction from ComfortMyPeople in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    Evading the real question.  The cambrian explosion refers to an explosion of so many different kinds of animals in  a short period of time without any hint of " precursors"  found in earlier layers of the earth........... and you turn it into an argument of the jawbone during this time - totally missing the point.   
    Explain the sudden appearance of wings, explain the explosion of all the different kinds of mammals without any hint of it in previous layers of the earth.   The jawbone is a side issue..
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    Evading the real question.  The cambrian explosion refers to an explosion of so many different kinds of animals in  a short period of time without any hint of " precursors"  found in earlier layers of the earth........... and you turn it into an argument of the jawbone during this time - totally missing the point.   
    Explain the sudden appearance of wings, explain the explosion of all the different kinds of mammals without any hint of it in previous layers of the earth.   The jawbone is a side issue..
     
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    Arauna reacted to JW Insider in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    So, I've been mostly away from my computer for a few days, and it looks like this entire forum has been mashed up into a single thread/topic. I know that I was given the ability to move posts around to new threads, and I probably should have started to do that many days ago. (When I began I realized it was too late.)
    But I also understand the simplicity (and short-term efficiency) of putting everything in the thread that people are actively participating in. In the longer-term, it's less efficient for those who need to go back and try to respond to things.
    Since I think I'm getting in here at the tail end, I hoped to summarize a bit, and had hoped that Anna, Tom, Arauna, any "Allen Smith" alternative would have tired out AlanF so I could pretend to have delivered a final knock-out punch. But it keeps going and going with no end in sight. And there is no single topic on which one could hope to offer a "summary defense."
    TTH, in spite of letting his tomfoolery characters get out of hand, has used them to point out so many of the areas where AlanF shows unnecessary antagonism, lack of empathy, and a lack of humor. He has also pointed out that AlanF's super-hypercritical view of JW leadership is also hypocritical in that an atheist should have no reason to pick on the spiritual and doctrinal beliefs of just one particular religion among hundreds. 
    I like that Anna has picked up on some flaws in AlanF's reasoning. I think AlanF still argues against JW leadership from the FWF-era, especially the 1950's through the 1980's, when Anna and others have picked up on positive signs of transition, away from much of the dogmatism of that era. Slowly, I see some of the old arguments disintegrating, especially in moving a few of the events, once applied to 1918, 1919 and 1914, now being more correctly applied to the 1st century or the future judgment.
    I like that Arauna has included some excellent points on intelligent design, some of which AlanF doesn't care to counter, but resorts to the trusty old ad hominem instead, either against Arauna or her sources.
    Personally, I wish I could say more on the evolution/creation debate, but I've never tackled the relevant literature, and I can tell that even our own Writing Department has made enough mistakes in misquoting the relevant scientists that they aren't ready to fully tackle this topic either. However, I have a deep love for the Bible as God's Word, and the amazing consistency of the Bible books from first to last, and I have to wonder at the amazingly wide distribution of this particular book to every corner of the world. It's awe-inspiring. Because of this, I'll take "Pascal's wager," that even if we are of all men most to be pitied (if our faith is misplaced) we really have nothing to lose and much to gain if our faith puts us on God's side.
    Besides, in the meantime, the true measure of Christianity is the activity that makes the world a better place and also makes us better individuals. We might even be better "neighbors" on random Internet forums, than those who reject Christian principles altogether.
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    Arauna reacted to Srecko Sostar in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    I have them too. And i was excited when was able to get "Aid to Bible understanding" in 1984 in Vienna Betel one evening in September.  
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    I grow in knowledge of the bible by reading the Insight book..... there are fascinating things in there.... I would encourage all to strengthen themselves in this way.  I have also picked up some useful info by reading old publications........ not to criticize the GB as others do here on this forum but to find new little tit-bits I had not thought of before. 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    Totally agree Anna,  the GB receive just enough holy spirit for their tasks and in the congregations around the world many anointed are serving to strengthen and help others. They do not see themselves as leaders at all. I know of one who stepped down as an elder because his own family needed more attention. Females support the congregation in so many other ways teaching the younger women to have a spirit of service.  Jehovah us never unjust - never partial.  Many brothers under the anointed receive as much holy spirit as they do - if they pray for it.  
     
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from Anna in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    Totally agree Anna,  the GB receive just enough holy spirit for their tasks and in the congregations around the world many anointed are serving to strengthen and help others. They do not see themselves as leaders at all. I know of one who stepped down as an elder because his own family needed more attention. Females support the congregation in so many other ways teaching the younger women to have a spirit of service.  Jehovah us never unjust - never partial.  Many brothers under the anointed receive as much holy spirit as they do - if they pray for it.  
     
     
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    Arauna reacted to Witness in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    The GB have done a fine job of spreading lying doctrines. They are the ones who have created a class system. In fact your magazines have called the anointed a “class”.  Check out their illustrations of the “144,000” ruling from literal thrones in heaven and all appearing identical as white men with white beards. That better fits your description of anointed bunched together in one place.     Just as Jesus appeared to his disciples after he was resurrected, he and the faithful Bride/anointed will walk the earth with God’s children.  They are the “new creation”, of which we talked about in the past, Arauna.  2 Cor 5:17   Priests were to teach the people, and God’s priests will continue to teach what they learn in “heaven”, and aiding Christ on earth. They are the “dwelling” of the Spirit of God, and part of the Temple of God. (1Cor 3:16,17)  Their presence on earth with Christ will bring God’s Spirit to His children.  Mal 2:7; Rev 21:1-2; 22:17
    Gen 28:12 Then he dreamed, and behold, a ladder was set up on the earth, and its top reached to heaven; and there the angels of God were ascending and descending on it.
    John 1:51 - And He said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, hereafter you shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of Man.”
    Acts 1:11 - “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.”
    Heb 1:6 - But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says: “Let all the angels of God worship Him.”
    Jesus’ sealed Bride/priests are “angels”.  Angel means “messenger”.
    Mal 2:7 - “For the lips of a priest should keep knowledge,
    And people should seek the law from his mouth;
    For he is the messenger of the Lord of hosts.
     
    There are also topics on this forum about anointed women teaching.  I must say, you do a pretty good job “teaching” everyone here about how prophesy will be fulfilled. Don’t you “teach” your Bible students?  The only difference I see of women teaching in the kingdom hall is the amount of people they are looking at when they do so.  It’s absolutely bogus.
    Romans 16:1 - I commend to you Phoebe our sister, who is a servant of the church in Cenchrea, 2 that you may receive her in the Lord in a manner worthy of the saints, and assist her in whatever business she has need of you; for indeed she has been a helper of many and of myself also.
    This Greek word for “servant” means…
    διάκονος diákonos, dee-ak'-on-os; probably from an obsolete διάκω diákō (to run on errands; compare G1377); an attendant, i.e. (genitive case) a waiter (at table or in other menial duties); specially, a Christian teacher and pastor (technically, a deacon or deaconess):—deacon, minister, servant.
    Do prophets in the Body, “teach”?  In order to reveal God’s message, they must teach.   
    1 Cor 12:8 - And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues.
    The apostles, prophets and teachers were ALL TEACHERS!
    Acts 21:7-9 - And when we had finished our voyage from Tyre, we came to Ptolemais, greeted the brethren, and stayed with them one day. 8 On the next day we who were Paul’s companions departed and came to Caesarea, and entered the house of Philip the evangelist, who was one of the seven, and stayed with him. 9 Now this man had four virgin daughters who prophesied. 
    There is humility, and then there is cowardliness. Jesus was humble, but he wasn’t a coward when speaking to the Pharisees.  Every anointed one under Christ must acknowledge their Head, Christ. They must only answer to him.  If not, they have lost “salt” in themselves. They no longer shine their “light”. Matt 5:13-16   God’s people in the last days, are “trampled” down by a Beast/organization guided by a composite “false prophet”. Rev chapter 13
    Rev 13:5-7 - And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.
    The elder body/GB has spoken "blasphemies" about God's sanctuary/Temple/anointed.  To tell those who are the dwelling of God's Holy Spirit that they must not bond together, is tyranny and blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.  
    2 Thess 2:3,4 - Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
     If the anointed in the organization do not have the courage to stand up against false doctrine and a false priesthood that has been given false authority to JUDGE them, they are in peril of losing their place in the Body. 
    This is prophesy concerning the remnant, that is being fulfilled.  For those who understand what is taking place with God's anointed “living stones”, (1 Pet 2:5,9; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3) they are to FLEE. Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:9-12
     
    The Disgusting Thing Standing in the Holy Place - https://pearl-disgustingthing.blogspot.com/
     
     
     
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    Arauna reacted to Anna in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    Paul at Romans 14:4 was obviously not talking about the kind of judging that is to be done in order to keep the congregation spiritually and morally clean, as per:
    "All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness" 2 Tim 3:16. .
     "For what do I have to do with judging those outside? Do you not judge those inside, while God judges those outside? “Remove the wicked person from among yourselves. 1 Cor 5:12,13
    "Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them. Romans 16:17 
    In order to do any of this there must be the ability to discern, or judge, who it applies to. And finally:
    "Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among you and be submissive, for they are keeping watch over you as those who will render an account" Heb 13:7
     
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    Arauna reacted to Anna in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    Both WT, January 2016, and January 2020 that talk about the anointed, applies to ALL the anointed, which includes the GB. There is no difference between them as regards their anointing, and how they should be treated. And, even how much holy spirit they get. Some will disagree with me on this, but in my opinion the GB do not receive any more, or any "special" type of holy spirit or insight than any other anointed, or anyone else for that matter. The Bible does not say the FDS anointed know more, all it says is that they are to provide timely spiritual food, which is already in the Bible, and dispense it to the others and to each other, since they are also "domestics".  Also they are not the only spokesmen for God. Anyone speaking the truth about God and Christ are also his spokespersons.
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    Arauna got a reaction from Malum Intellectus in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    Says who? 
    The ones who are now spearheading the organization are training others all the time - elders, servants etc.  Their time for ruling and being together  is not now ... but in future.... then they will all be together under christ and their administration will bring mankind back to the original purpose of God.  The promises of being together under christ lies in future. 
    The original congregations were mostly anointed but the great crowd now makes up the largest part of the congregations.... and the obligation to meet together and encourage each other is as much the great crowd's obligation as the anointed.
    So we must read in it hidden messages?   Sounds more like mysticism to me...... or evolution.  Seeing something where it does not exist. 
    You expect answers when you have no intention or capability to answer my challenges.
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    Arauna got a reaction from Malum Intellectus in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    Always dramatic, over the top sweeping statements - no rationality here!
    Berlinsky is seen as essential reading for any philosopher or debater on evolution. Not only is he a mathematician and philosopher but did a post-doctoral on molecular biology. 
    He himself says that evolutionists evade the most important questions and only answer that which is convenient to them.... i agree, there are too many unanswered questions in evolution but evolutionary fanatics refuse to even look at them.
    When I say to you that ALL nerves are connected in the body I talk from personal experience.  My daughter had neuroblastoma  - a nerve cancer.  The growth was removed from the main nerve on the right hand side of the chest at almost 9 months of life.... it was in one area......but affected "everything  " on the right hand side of her body....from head to toe.  The smallest nerves in her hands and feet (extremities) were not functioning to allow normal growth as on the left side.  She is a beautiful girl but on closer inspection one will find that everything is smaller on the right side.   I do not need to get technical on this one because my own observation has taught me the truth about the connectedness of ALL nerves.
    Regarding all your other arguments - life could not exist if the cell does not have a membrane........... particles may have collided and after hitting the jackpot millions of times maybe formed some unstructured strings of material....... but how did they end up being in a "container"  to keep them together so that the intricate structures and separate DNA of the mitochondria could develop .... and what about the cooperating structures within the cell which act like factories for the replacement of protein and the removal  of garbage........ life is much more conneted and complex than evolutionists wish to give attention to..... 
    I leave it at this, because the questions of understanding the future, morality, speech, and other wonders (which only humans posess and can appreciate and no animals have) are also questions to consider apart from the obvious biological aspects and the cosmos.  The only thing Darwins theory did explain was the minute adaptions which could bring about larger beaks etc....but nothing to explain a change in species..  
    If you have an honest bone in your body you will re-evaluate your fanatic  persuasion.  New evidence on the shortness if the time period for the Cambrian explosion of only 10 million years..... and the explosion of the different kinds of mammals in this short time without any previous animals of this kind..... boggles the mind.
    The spirit of God can only flourish where there is truth and an honest search for the truth. This is also true of any JW - if they stop acknowledging or practicing the truth they may start to dominate others like King Solomon did at the end of his life.   Each person is responsible to evaluate themselves constantly..... to tell if they are hypocritical or truthful about themselves and their practices.
     
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    You use the word domineer so easily..... I call it "facilitation".
    Soon you will see what domineering really is. Africa is full of these kind of domineering rulers.  China is now domineering everything in the lives of their subjects by means of 24 hours of surveillance - big brother style....
    Americans like to call anyone giving them an instruction, domineering or a dictator. Talk about socialism and americans call them a communist.....total overreaction.....    40 years of indoctrination by movies wants the US youth to have freedom to do everything they want but with no responsibility/accountability.  These secular -style ideas/philosophies are infiltrating us everywhere!..... even the congregation! 
    Sin "dominates" us all and is a terrible burden....  the wish to dominate is never ever a benevolent quality...... and so is rebellion against jehovah. This is why elders are always warned not to dominate others but to show them the relevant scriptures because obedience to scripture is a personal choice. When individuals choose to overstep Jehovahs rules, then they can face the consequences for their actions  themselves. They cannot say like Adam "so and so told me to do it".
    No- not true.  Prophets like Elisha were anointed for a specific job.  Kings were also anointed for a specific job as was the high priest.
    Jesus was anointed with holy spirit to be the messiah (future king and high priest) and the kingdom covenant was for the anointed as kings and priests-  like Jesus.
    They were anointed for a specific job. At end of thousand years they may get a new assignment or remain in their positions..... but they will hand over the kingdom back to jehovah when their assignment is completed.
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    Arauna got a reaction from AlanF in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    Says who? 
    The ones who are now spearheading the organization are training others all the time - elders, servants etc.  Their time for ruling and being together  is not now ... but in future.... then they will all be together under christ and their administration will bring mankind back to the original purpose of God.  The promises of being together under christ lies in future. 
    The original congregations were mostly anointed but the great crowd now makes up the largest part of the congregations.... and the obligation to meet together and encourage each other is as much the great crowd's obligation as the anointed.
    So we must read in it hidden messages?   Sounds more like mysticism to me...... or evolution.  Seeing something where it does not exist. 
    You expect answers when you have no intention or capability to answer my challenges.
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    Arauna reacted to TrueTomHarley in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    What do you care? The only people who know that there are anointed are Jehovah’s Witnesses, and you’ve put yourself outside that group. And here is Alan appending his “like”—Alan, the atheist—Alan, the evolutionist. Oh, yeah! Alan is real concerned about the doings of the anointed! Maybe they will consult him as their science advisor.
    But...but....isn’t Witness an anointed—Witness, who complains of being outmaneuvered by the 8 and deprived of her rightful recognition? Witness, who by her own word, does communicate with those she considers anointed—by the social media and internet methods that you mention. She communicates with as many of them as she likes, probably all that will speak to her—perhaps all of them except for the eight. So what does she care? Any meeting of any type will have at least eight absentees. Carry on without them! She’s made it clear innumerable times that she is not the slightest bit impressed with the preaching infrastructure that they have built and oversee, so what’s it to her if they don’t show up?
    I don’t know everything that Witness believes and I am afraid to ask for fear that she will tell me—at a length even longer than Alan. I did ask her a few things, and she immediately assumed that I was coming in from the cold. From that exchange I discovered, however, that her notion of anointed is not at all as JWs believe—she does not think they are all to be “kings and priests to our God” and she blows off the number of them in Revelation 7 as nothing. For all I know, she has reverted to that old time religion that believes “all good people go to heaven”—and Alan will approve that too if it means undermining Jehovah’s Witnesses, despite his atheism, and then lecture everyone else about being hypocrites.
     
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    Says who? 
    The ones who are now spearheading the organization are training others all the time - elders, servants etc.  Their time for ruling and being together  is not now ... but in future.... then they will all be together under christ and their administration will bring mankind back to the original purpose of God.  The promises of being together under christ lies in future. 
    The original congregations were mostly anointed but the great crowd now makes up the largest part of the congregations.... and the obligation to meet together and encourage each other is as much the great crowd's obligation as the anointed.
    So we must read in it hidden messages?   Sounds more like mysticism to me...... or evolution.  Seeing something where it does not exist. 
    You expect answers when you have no intention or capability to answer my challenges.
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    Arauna reacted to Anna in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    I repeat again, you are reading into things that aren't there.
    Of course.
    Those of anointed who consider themselves the faithful and discreet slave, as I am sure you are referring to them,  do not wield authority over their fellow anointed, nor are they masters over anyone's faith for that matter. We are all fully cognizant that all the anointed are to answer to Jesus. And we are all cognizant of the fact that no one is better than anyone else. So what is your problem?
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    Arauna reacted to Anna in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    You're welcome!
    It seems that John Butler  4jah2me is keeping up with the spiritual food faster than you!
    Oh really, Mr. know it all
    Why don't you just take what is written at face value? That's how they are meant. I find it curious how you need things explained by a prominent elder. Pity he didn't take things at face value either. Reading more into things is never a good idea. Working against the holy spirit in this case is not rocket science. If the Bible's admonition is not to cause divisions, and promote unity, then if one does things contrary to that, then one would be working against the holy spirit. Obviously. You guys get too hung up about what the GB says, and forget what the Bible says.
     
    Again, you are reading into things that aren't there. Everyone and anyone can get together and discuss spiritual things. This is talking about exclusivity. That is the point.
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    Arauna reacted to Witness in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    Two flocks becoming one - Israel and the Gentiles under Christ, becoming spiritual "Israel".  1 Pet 2:10,9; Rom 9:6
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    Arauna reacted to Srecko Sostar in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    In addition, anointed Christians do not view themselves as being part of an elite club. They do not seek out others who claim to have the same calling, hoping to bond with them or endeavoring to form private groups for Bible study. (Gal. 1:15-17) Such efforts would cause divisions within the congregation and work against the holy spirit, which promotes peace and unity.   wt 1/2016, "We Want to Go With You".
    It would be important and interesting to see what are examples that WT Society GB and elders saw as danger for Corporation and as braking Bible Principles. 
    We all are aware how people doing this sort of "separation" inside same structure. "Birds of feather flock together". It is visible to many how JW people contribute in various measures to this same. Bethel workers are one "social class", also pioneers understanding each other more than some other level of brotherhood can do that. Brothers who are wealthier or have more education find more friends inside such people and making that sort of "social group". Poor brothers understand each other more, much better than someone who has plenty of money can have that compassion to them. All such gathering can be seen as gathering based on some reasons that is not "Biblical", but it is not so simple or good  to make automatic conclusion or judgement.
    If anointed individuals understand each other more better and in special way, it is normal to see them want to spend more time been together. Do you want to spend more of your time with people who understand you and your inner life or you want to be with those people who can't do that??
    We all can be seen as "elite" in own eyes, or in eyes of other.
    Warning about private groups for study Bible is based on need to control everyone, not just appointed. 
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from Anna in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    In one cell one needs a minimum of 150 proteins to function. A protein has a specific sequence of DNA material that can only fit in a specific way and is folded in a specific way. ..... very complex. 
    Nano-bio-engineers work together in groups and take months to produce only one chemical needed for such a protein........ with perfect conditions in the lab, many sets of brainy ideas.  This if for only one chemical that is needed to build ONE complex protein.  
    Then every cell has a complex energy factory - the mitochondria -  which by the way has its own separate DNA, which can only be inherited from a woman....... (Eve).   Apart from this we have the transport system in the cell........... and most of all the important MEMBRANE.    If the membrane was not there (in the chemical soup you believe in..... )  the cell material would not have been able to stay together...... the material would have dissipated and NEVER EVER formed a cell. ..... and then the cell still needs LIFE..... The mechanisms to maintain the cell is much more complex than evolutionists can imagine.   Evolution deliberately simplifies the cell, its mechanics and structure.
    So - who of us has been duped?   The one who has put his faith in "human intelligence" or the one who has realized there is a higher intelligence. 
    Mathematically it is impossible to get even one cell developed in 500 billion years - we need time beyond what scientists are saying is the age of the universe.
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from Anna in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    Definitely, I do not get pro-creation papers in my mailbox......I read the newest information to see the flaws in it - for myself.
    For example:  when they found more than 10 proteins in dinosaur bones-  it pointed to a younger earth.  The next paper was a rebuttal.  They postulated that the iron in the blood must have preserved the proteins in the bones. They proved in the paper that iron CAN preserve proteins - which is the only information I agree with.
    The problem I had with that  postulation was is this: large amounts of blood are not available in the bones and  while one may find a centrifuge in a lab to concentrate the iron for a test ......  I have never seen a dinosaur bone with a built-in centrifuge to clump the iron in the blood together to preserve the bones.  No-one spotted the absurdity that one cannot compare what happens in a lab to what happens in nature. 
    I can give you another example with Mr Dawkins.  He made a big do about analysing and cutting out the nerve of a giraffe on TV  and demonstrating how unneccesary it was for the nerve to curve around the heart - he said it was bad "design"..... a left over from evolution.
    As an African I immediately spotted his lack of understanding of animals and lack of thinking things through.  Giraffes have exceptionally long necks and need the heart to get feedback of the pressure to get the blood to the head..... the design is perfect...... there are other reasons as well......in our bodies "everything"  is connected ...... which is one of the several complexities which  point to design.
    For example: one needs the brain to interpret what the eyes see.  The eyes in its complex design cannot see without the brain, which interprets the information.  Which one came first? They eye or the brain.... when they both need each other to functio, it means there was pre-existing  "information" that the other organ would exist. This indicates a presence of "coordinated information" or "pre-knowledge"......... a form of intelligence.
    Male and female organs that developed separately yet are perfectly biologically coordinated.... each providing only HALF of the genetic material needed to produce a new life etc..... I can go on and on....
    Obviously - one of us is a fanatic about " religion" ...... and I know it is not me.   SCIENCE is not as infallible as you thought.... scientists are often egotists...... they do not always go in the direction the truth leads them but in the direction where they can publish papers.  So your Mommy Science has fed you a lot of claptrap and it does not even have good motives. 
    ..... 
    According to science there was an ice age inbetween..  and the  "goldilocks" conditions " over such a long period of time is a fallacy.   
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from ComfortMyPeople in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    Definitely, I do not get pro-creation papers in my mailbox......I read the newest information to see the flaws in it - for myself.
    For example:  when they found more than 10 proteins in dinosaur bones-  it pointed to a younger earth.  The next paper was a rebuttal.  They postulated that the iron in the blood must have preserved the proteins in the bones. They proved in the paper that iron CAN preserve proteins - which is the only information I agree with.
    The problem I had with that  postulation was is this: large amounts of blood are not available in the bones and  while one may find a centrifuge in a lab to concentrate the iron for a test ......  I have never seen a dinosaur bone with a built-in centrifuge to clump the iron in the blood together to preserve the bones.  No-one spotted the absurdity that one cannot compare what happens in a lab to what happens in nature. 
    I can give you another example with Mr Dawkins.  He made a big do about analysing and cutting out the nerve of a giraffe on TV  and demonstrating how unneccesary it was for the nerve to curve around the heart - he said it was bad "design"..... a left over from evolution.
    As an African I immediately spotted his lack of understanding of animals and lack of thinking things through.  Giraffes have exceptionally long necks and need the heart to get feedback of the pressure to get the blood to the head..... the design is perfect...... there are other reasons as well......in our bodies "everything"  is connected ...... which is one of the several complexities which  point to design.
    For example: one needs the brain to interpret what the eyes see.  The eyes in its complex design cannot see without the brain, which interprets the information.  Which one came first? They eye or the brain.... when they both need each other to functio, it means there was pre-existing  "information" that the other organ would exist. This indicates a presence of "coordinated information" or "pre-knowledge"......... a form of intelligence.
    Male and female organs that developed separately yet are perfectly biologically coordinated.... each providing only HALF of the genetic material needed to produce a new life etc..... I can go on and on....
    Obviously - one of us is a fanatic about " religion" ...... and I know it is not me.   SCIENCE is not as infallible as you thought.... scientists are often egotists...... they do not always go in the direction the truth leads them but in the direction where they can publish papers.  So your Mommy Science has fed you a lot of claptrap and it does not even have good motives. 
    ..... 
    According to science there was an ice age inbetween..  and the  "goldilocks" conditions " over such a long period of time is a fallacy.   
     
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    Arauna reacted to Vic Vomidog in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    This is an excellent point, brilliantly stated as usual. He clearly has no business doing what he is doing. He is without a doubt an agnostic or atheist, since most secular Jews are. He is not supposed to side with anyone who is religious! It is not allowed. That proves he is a hypocrite.
    He is so stupid that he probably thinks Berlin is a city in Germany.
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