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    Arauna got a reaction from Thinking in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    We know exactly where the changes were made - there are at least 5 master copies of the holy Bible that were made from a comparison of all the extant manuscripts (they were compared with one another and all the anomalies noted),  so yes - unlike other religions this record (the bible) his the most scrutinized document on earth.... with the most enemies who wish to discredit it.  Other so-called documents have not been scrutinized to this extent.
    So yes - the bible is truth and the very few differences does not affect the main theme of the bible or the personality and qualities of the One who wrote it.  The differences do not in any way shape or change the fundamental truths. Your biased viewpoint is showing up!  You want to give yourself leeway to be able to have all your own opinions and reject some of the truths contained in it?  john 17:17  " 17 Sanctify them by[a] the truth; your word is truth.
    I can detect when she is exaggerating and twisting scriptures but she lies and slanders badly too!   So it is hard to  always  overlook that kind of behavior.  It does not matter if a good point is made, or a weak point - she will find a way to twist it.
    Many opposers show this kind of hate-OCD..... I call it that this condition because I recognize the signs very quickly when a person is operating in that kind of mode.   The person can choose to be more reasonable .....but they fall back into the same old same old repetitive behavior as if they cannot help themselves.  Reasonableness has fled!
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    Arauna got a reaction from Thinking in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Yes, we also have learnt before, that just like 144, 000 are sealed those who will receive the earthly promise will also be marked by the one with the inkpot - and the Christian personality will be the criteria.  Ezekiel 9. 
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    Arauna reacted to TrueTomHarley in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    If they sell it, it’s because the sale of one underperforming Hall in the West can fund the building of 50 in developing lands where they are clamoring for them. So someone has a longer drive twice a week so that 50X friends overseas have a place to meet? Who would object to that?
    Notice how the “bad and worthless” men objected when David proposed a similar equalizing scheme: 
    “However, every bad and worthless man among those who had gone with David said: “Since they did not go with us, we will not give them any of the spoil that we recovered except that each one may take his wife and his sons and go away.”  But David said: “You must not do this, my brothers, with what Jehovah has given us. He protected us and gave into our hand the marauder band that came against us. “
    Why would you promote being bad and worthless?
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    Arauna reacted to Pudgy in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Now …. didn’t that make you feel better?
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    Arauna got a reaction from Thinking in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Ha-ha.  I just laugh at the ridiculousness!  Witness and Srecko  quote an old watchtower and you have a peeve with that!  LOL.
    I have repeated so often on this forum that one must put historical actions and attitudes in the light of the period.
    If I had the right to go through your life and nitpick it like you do the witnesses  - I am sure I will find some very strange things in there.  Especially the things you did, especially if you grew up in the 60s, 70s, or 80s.   Millennials find our big hair and bell bottoms very funny.  Well, the things people found acceptable in that time was good enough for them..... the light is getting brighter! 
    In the 60s in USA many people who came in the truth still had racist ideas - earlier then that there was lynching's etc. 
    While they never allowed racism in the congregations, I am sure that black brothers did not always feel comfortable and wondered why the anointed were mostly white.  There are so many things we can find  with a nitpicking attitude to be judgmental...... and I always notice this in your comments  that you do not have a good historical sense.  You want the truth to be truth with no changes......... people may not change or you hold their feet to the fire!
    Well - I am a witness because they are indeed prepared to make changes and grow...... they do not stay stagnant without moving forward in understanding!
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    Arauna got a reaction from Pudgy in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    No my dear - only a stumbling block for those who have BIG egos. They do not fit in.
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    Arauna got a reaction from xero in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    We know exactly where the changes were made - there are at least 5 master copies of the holy Bible that were made from a comparison of all the extant manuscripts (they were compared with one another and all the anomalies noted),  so yes - unlike other religions this record (the bible) his the most scrutinized document on earth.... with the most enemies who wish to discredit it.  Other so-called documents have not been scrutinized to this extent.
    So yes - the bible is truth and the very few differences does not affect the main theme of the bible or the personality and qualities of the One who wrote it.  The differences do not in any way shape or change the fundamental truths. Your biased viewpoint is showing up!  You want to give yourself leeway to be able to have all your own opinions and reject some of the truths contained in it?  john 17:17  " 17 Sanctify them by[a] the truth; your word is truth.
    I can detect when she is exaggerating and twisting scriptures but she lies and slanders badly too!   So it is hard to  always  overlook that kind of behavior.  It does not matter if a good point is made, or a weak point - she will find a way to twist it.
    Many opposers show this kind of hate-OCD..... I call it that this condition because I recognize the signs very quickly when a person is operating in that kind of mode.   The person can choose to be more reasonable .....but they fall back into the same old same old repetitive behavior as if they cannot help themselves.  Reasonableness has fled!
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    Arauna got a reaction from Anna in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    We know exactly where the changes were made - there are at least 5 master copies of the holy Bible that were made from a comparison of all the extant manuscripts (they were compared with one another and all the anomalies noted),  so yes - unlike other religions this record (the bible) his the most scrutinized document on earth.... with the most enemies who wish to discredit it.  Other so-called documents have not been scrutinized to this extent.
    So yes - the bible is truth and the very few differences does not affect the main theme of the bible or the personality and qualities of the One who wrote it.  The differences do not in any way shape or change the fundamental truths. Your biased viewpoint is showing up!  You want to give yourself leeway to be able to have all your own opinions and reject some of the truths contained in it?  john 17:17  " 17 Sanctify them by[a] the truth; your word is truth.
    I can detect when she is exaggerating and twisting scriptures but she lies and slanders badly too!   So it is hard to  always  overlook that kind of behavior.  It does not matter if a good point is made, or a weak point - she will find a way to twist it.
    Many opposers show this kind of hate-OCD..... I call it that this condition because I recognize the signs very quickly when a person is operating in that kind of mode.   The person can choose to be more reasonable .....but they fall back into the same old same old repetitive behavior as if they cannot help themselves.  Reasonableness has fled!
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    Arauna got a reaction from Anna in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Yes, we also have learnt before, that just like 144, 000 are sealed those who will receive the earthly promise will also be marked by the one with the inkpot - and the Christian personality will be the criteria.  Ezekiel 9. 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Anna in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    To forgive a great sin against you is surely the one act that jehovah would appreciate and reward.... so work on it.  Your everlasting life is important to all of us. 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Thinking in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Truth is truth and cannot be a half-truth.  Truth that is exaggerated or minimized is not truth.  Most of the propaganda in the media today (no matter which country one goes to) starts with a truth-like sounding statement and then twists it ever so slightly so that it is no longer truth.  This is how they get millions of people to harm themselves without realizing they are being harmed by what they listen to.
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    Arauna got a reaction from Thinking in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    To forgive a great sin against you is surely the one act that jehovah would appreciate and reward.... so work on it.  Your everlasting life is important to all of us. 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Thinking in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Sometimes an act of repentance is to forgive others and even to forgive yourself. Who of us does not act irrationally at times? Eccl 7: 7  "Oppression can drive a wise one to madness" 
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    Arauna reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Sorry Arauna but this brings us back to the Superior Authorities scripture in Romans for one thing.
    It also brings us back to the number of times the Watchtower / Bible Students / JW Org have made predictions which have not come true.
    I find it strange that some on here criticise @Witness for her words but you are happy to allow for your own Leaders to have told lies / make deliberate mistakes / misuse scripture.  I do not see any balance there. 
     
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    Arauna reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Well i did actually find this funny. But it does show that you read other people's commets too.
    Your one sentance here was well put together. Thankyou.  
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Those who were baptized in the time of Jesus formed a congregation and they worked together as a congregation.  They were so separate from other religions that it was called "The Way".  Loyalty to Jehovah, Jesús and their brothers was of utmost importance.  Paul writes in his letters about the love in the congregation and how it must be expanded. Many sold their property to give to the congregation and share what they had with brothers so there could be an 'equalizing".  The hospitality was outstanding and Paul often stayed with those whom accepted the faith. So, true faith is about serving the family of faith and looking after them - accepting them as your extended family and being part of that family. Acknowledging they are your true brothers and sisters.  
    Where is your extended family that you have become part of when you were baptized? (congregation, or body of Christ which you always refer to), those who share the same beliefs as you do?  
    You - are truly the one that twists words all the time.... and while you have a right to say the most vile things and the most untruthful and crazy  things on this forum to get a like from all haters of JWs, we do not for moment even consider your extrapolations as honest or truthful because all your arguments have gaping holes in them!
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Sometimes an act of repentance is to forgive others and even to forgive yourself. Who of us does not act irrationally at times? Eccl 7: 7  "Oppression can drive a wise one to madness" 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    To forgive a great sin against you is surely the one act that jehovah would appreciate and reward.... so work on it.  Your everlasting life is important to all of us. 
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    Arauna got a reaction from JW Insider in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Truth is truth and cannot be a half-truth.  Truth that is exaggerated or minimized is not truth.  Most of the propaganda in the media today (no matter which country one goes to) starts with a truth-like sounding statement and then twists it ever so slightly so that it is no longer truth.  This is how they get millions of people to harm themselves without realizing they are being harmed by what they listen to.
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    Arauna reacted to TrueTomHarley in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    It’s the 42 anointed who met together after they were ordered not to in order to baptize without asking each other a ton of questions.
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    Arauna got a reaction from JW Insider in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Yes, we also have learnt before, that just like 144, 000 are sealed those who will receive the earthly promise will also be marked by the one with the inkpot - and the Christian personality will be the criteria.  Ezekiel 9. 
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    Arauna reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Tom, the answer seems to be that you do not try to reason on the things @Witness says because you have decided that you wil not agree with anything she says. So be it ,it's your choice, but you make it so obvious of whom you will reason with and who you will not. It seems a bit 'blind' to me as I tend to read and think on every comment i can, allbeit in a hurry some days. Yes I know I disagree with most, but only after fully reading the comments. 
    On a daily basis I don't think on if I will survive Armageddon or not, I don't find it important. God's plans for the Heavens and this Earth through Christ are important. It's about perspective I suppose. My hope, which seems different to others, is that I will die naturally long before Armageddon happens. I'm 72 and in honesty i don't want to see 90. I don't want dementia, i don't want someone having to feed me or bath me. So hopefully i will die, then Yeshua will decide if I should live again. But there are people that i have not forgiven and cannot forgive, hence i think i will not be forgiven. The scripture about a man who was forgiven his debt but would not forgive some one else who owed him money always sticks in my mind when this topic comes up, so it's nice when the topic does not come up. But of course if we are both there 'on the other side' we will willingly rejoice together and probably laugh at all weve said about each other. 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Pudgy in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Thanks for explaining - I no longer counter this person's arguments.  They never make sense but are utterances of repetitive hate-OCD.   
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Thanks for explaining - I no longer counter this person's arguments.  They never make sense but are utterances of repetitive hate-OCD.   
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