Arauna

Do you see this continuing flow of insults from JWs ? It never stops. Those 'supposed to be' Christians, proving false to their own beliefs.  

Whatever. You're just wasting your time and that of any anyone else who bothers w/you.

He did not do it obsessively. 

You're flat out wrong AND you have no common sense to boot. What is the dragnet, if not the disparate nominal Christian organizations? How CAN you NOT isolate yourself like the selfish do w/o an organization? How WOULD the Bible have been preserved w/o an organization to do so.
Being part of an organization is critical and you have to make a choice. Pretend you aren't as corrupt and flawed as those you might sneer at, or work out your own salvation w/fear and trembling WITHIN an organization which YOU feel is supporting your efforts BETTER than the others.

Paul was a messenger to the gentiles and he was not baptized - so is it a requirement that a messenger must be beheaded?    Apostle means : sent out.   They all were sent out to be messengers.

I was catching up today!  Thanks for missing me.  I gave you guys a little respite from my "sensure" - lol.

We cannot fathom out every situation except understanding that many lost their lives unnecessarily and Jehovah kept  judged the living according to their heart condition. In this situation, most who died are not in Gehenna but in Sheol, just  like the opposers who came up against Moses. Jehovah promised that there would be death no longer and that we will not remember the bad things in the past. So obviously Jehovah has everything single outcome under control - even if we do not want to think about it in this way.
It is the final outcome that is important because Jehovah has the power to rectify everything else. 
In the next two to five years - many people will lose their lives due to hunger, war, untimely death through pestilence (as prophecy indicated).  Much of it is going to be due to the actions of other humans or unforeseen circumstances.  I assume that most of them will get a resurrection.   But when Armageddon - the Day of Jehovah arrives, those hardened god-haters will pay the ultimate price. 

No the Org. is NOT the means to our salvation... but Jesus' ransom  and his father Jehovah.  If you are dedicated to Jehovah and his Son and you are associated with his org.  you are assisted to maintain pure worship (without idolatry etc.) and to remain in a relationship with them. This helps you to remain in this life-saving situation. 
From your hateful attitude and complaints about everything (except complaints against Satan's organization - which is world wide) - I would say you are well on the way to self-destruction.
 

He did not do it obsessively. 

No the Org. is NOT the means to our salvation... but Jesus' ransom  and his father Jehovah.  If you are dedicated to Jehovah and his Son and you are associated with his org.  you are assisted to maintain pure worship (without idolatry etc.) and to remain in a relationship with them. This helps you to remain in this life-saving situation. 
From your hateful attitude and complaints about everything (except complaints against Satan's organization - which is world wide) - I would say you are well on the way to self-destruction.
 

So you learnt nothing from my example....... .back to the GB - OCD hate.  ... Now i know what I deal with. 

George Orwell’s book “1984” was SUPPOSED to be a novel, and a warning …. NOT an instruction manual.

Very clever. Fact-checking Jesus!
and pretty much the truth. I mean, no one actually does what he says today. They have fact-checked him away.

Pudgy, I totally understand what you are getting at. When people  have such an abundance of  hate-OCD, they conflate all non-compatable subjects to lead to ONE conclusion every time. All thinking processes lead to ONE conclusion and all scriptures are thrown together to lead to ONE conclusion.
Now we both can look up OCD and "conclusion" and   "fatuous"  in Websters dictionary together - LOL......
 

Hi! …. My name is Pudgy …. And I am a cartoon canine newsaholic!
(the room responds “Hi Pudgy!)
I used to listen to talk radio at least 3 hours a day, and it’s been two weeks since I have listened to the radio …..
( the room nods and mumbles approval )
Recently I heard for the first time the word “conflate”, which I would have assumed had something to do with blowing up several balloons.
After hearing it three times, not in that context, I decided to look it up.
 


The reason I brought this up is Witness has conflated and translated two entirely different ideas from what I actually said, to her agenda driven internal obsession, to wit;


…. two COMPLETELY different ideas!
The only common element is the word “wheels”.

Almost as good:
https://www.tomsheepandgoats.com/2007/07/isaac-asimov-an.html

And you are no part of it...... so it seems.

patiently-waiting-for-truth/
from our publication: "God is impartial, and he extends to all people the opportunity to be saved and gain everlasting life, regardless of their nationality, race, or social status. To benefit, however, we must call on the name of Jehovah, which is the personal name of Almighty God.   Psalm 83:18.
 In the Bible, the expression “call on the name of Jehovah” means more than just knowing God’s name and using it in worship. (Psalm 116:12-14) It includes trusting God and looking to him for help.—Psalm 20:7; 99:6.
 God’s name was important to Jesus Christ. The very first words in his model prayer were: “Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified,” or made holy. (Matthew 6:9) Jesus also showed that we must come to know, obey, and love the Person behind that name if we are to gain everlasting life.—John 17:3, 6, 26."
 
Most Christians do not accept these names and do NOT believe that Jesus is NOT Jehovah.  Baptism means dedication.  So would you say that dedication to Jehovah and the ransom of Jesus (and maintaining that path) would lead to being saved?

I remember this argument being brought up on another forum..so I dug a bit deeper…..I cannot remember everything but basically..Gods people at the time were acting in a manner not pleasing to him at the time…I cannot remember what they did or their attitude but they bore some responsibility for that judgement,,,they were not in good standing before Jehovah at the time….but I cannot remember what they were doing to displease him……then off course David made it all ten times worse….

These people always throw bait - they do not care about Jehovah. They pretend to be interested in the light..... but are they really?  I agree with pudgy.... Paris is more interesting.

Jesus managed conflict correctly all the time.  Free thinking allows for different views on things - but people will allow different viewpoints when it is not morally wrong. Morally wrong things will be corrected. 

How can I begrudge you some practise when I do it myself!  LOL

We cannot fathom out every situation except understanding that many lost their lives unnecessarily and Jehovah kept  judged the living according to their heart condition. In this situation, most who died are not in Gehenna but in Sheol, just  like the opposers who came up against Moses. Jehovah promised that there would be death no longer and that we will not remember the bad things in the past. So obviously Jehovah has everything single outcome under control - even if we do not want to think about it in this way.
It is the final outcome that is important because Jehovah has the power to rectify everything else. 
In the next two to five years - many people will lose their lives due to hunger, war, untimely death through pestilence (as prophecy indicated).  Much of it is going to be due to the actions of other humans or unforeseen circumstances.  I assume that most of them will get a resurrection.   But when Armageddon - the Day of Jehovah arrives, those hardened god-haters will pay the ultimate price. 

No the Org. is NOT the means to our salvation... but Jesus' ransom  and his father Jehovah.  If you are dedicated to Jehovah and his Son and you are associated with his org.  you are assisted to maintain pure worship (without idolatry etc.) and to remain in a relationship with them. This helps you to remain in this life-saving situation. 
From your hateful attitude and complaints about everything (except complaints against Satan's organization - which is world wide) - I would say you are well on the way to self-destruction.
 

Yeah but one can get a bit of practise in