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Yes! Let's remember where the speculation arose from? Foolish Witnesses, NOT the Watchtower or its GB.
Later to become propaganda for former Jehovah's Witnesses such as yourself @Witness, and @Pudgy
Oh! Yeah! I forgot and also @Patiently waiting for Truth

This is not the truth. It is a half-truth.... not spot on. It has always meant a world situation wherein Jesus destroys the earthly worldly powers under control of Satan as depicted in Revelation 19.
Of course now we understand much more. ...... 

Okay you win …
 

Aaaaaah but you know she’s close to you before she’s seen by your eyes because you can catch the smell of her perfume…

Well it was true the third time around …

Coming from Africa, I can attest to that.  We just arrived at a Safari camp when I forgot the kitchen window open.  In jumped a monkey and stole the sugar pot.  It lay broken outside the window but the two monkeys were sitting right in the sugar and eating it all up like a pair of toddlers.  Then they turned around and licked each others butts clean.  They sure gave us much to laugh at. Next day a warthog was walking around on his knees on our stoep (veranda) eating some carrots we gave him.  They do this in the wild as well !    I think we will have a ball with the animals in the paradise. Yes, Creation shows that god has a sense of humor. 

Coming from Africa, I can attest to that.  We just arrived at a Safari camp when I forgot the kitchen window open.  In jumped a monkey and stole the sugar pot.  It lay broken outside the window but the two monkeys were sitting right in the sugar and eating it all up like a pair of toddlers.  Then they turned around and licked each others butts clean.  They sure gave us much to laugh at. Next day a warthog was walking around on his knees on our stoep (veranda) eating some carrots we gave him.  They do this in the wild as well !    I think we will have a ball with the animals in the paradise. Yes, Creation shows that god has a sense of humor. 

I have not seen any JWs here quarrel about who the the wild beast is - maybe  ex-witnesses. Our literature is pretty clear on who the wild beast is,  I did see some comments about the first two heads that is not in line with out teachings but as far as I know there is no dissent about who the beast is.

True, due to cultural differences. For example, many Koreans still study for doctorate degrees while pioneering. It is in the culture for them because they still have the idea of looking after family in old age..... in the back of their minds or psyche. 

Coming from Africa, I can attest to that.  We just arrived at a Safari camp when I forgot the kitchen window open.  In jumped a monkey and stole the sugar pot.  It lay broken outside the window but the two monkeys were sitting right in the sugar and eating it all up like a pair of toddlers.  Then they turned around and licked each others butts clean.  They sure gave us much to laugh at. Next day a warthog was walking around on his knees on our stoep (veranda) eating some carrots we gave him.  They do this in the wild as well !    I think we will have a ball with the animals in the paradise. Yes, Creation shows that god has a sense of humor. 

To this day the Mainstream still believe that they are like the early church when they are not.

Let it be as you said  

It was more bookish knowledge.... much history etc. Today they are focussing more on the qualities and lifestyle we need to pass through Armageddon.  So you see I do sometimes in a way agree with you. 

True, due to cultural differences. For example, many Koreans still study for doctorate degrees while pioneering. It is in the culture for them because they still have the idea of looking after family in old age..... in the back of their minds or psyche. 

Sorry - broad strokes like that is not acceptable to me.  Our core teachings are absolutely solid!  no argument about that.  The few mistakes due to over zealousness or some human fault is zoomed into by critical people with superior feelings  and used as a pulverizer to trash everything!  Don't agree with you.  I was also around in 1975 and it was not as bad as you-all make it out to be.   
Jesus always spoke the truth and the pharisees /(super apostles) found fault with him.  

That “broken phone” game has a bunch of written text. So, your argument and illustration is meaningless.
Are you trying to say that people today are less prone to naivety than in the 1970s? And that today’s JWs think more with their head than their predecessors, so they’re more careful and don’t listen to GB enough? Today’s JWs have a unique circumstance compared to their 1970s predecessors, and that is; more information about WTJWorg. And an increasingly rich history (and present) of failed doctrines.

I was overseas working at the time, and I did not speak the local languages.
By the way, my kind of humor is usually reserved to guys my age who grew up reading MAD Magazine, and like  stand-up comedians like Robin Williams and Lewis Black.

I’m not disagreeing  with you with that…what you have said is true…but the brother who gave the talk was humble  enough to admit the error…I like brothers like that…and the moral of the story Pugsy has nothing to do with cofffee…it is….don’t trust anyone but Jehovah and Jesus..and be like a beroean…who were more noble minded than the Corinthians and took responsibility for their own spirituality.
Many left over that,,,shaken because they looked to men….and a date…
If you lived thru  that you would also know many did not go along with it…
 
 

Jesus was accused of sedition because he preached about a kingdom not being of this world. 
This reminds me of the jab.  They do not speak against the jab.  Soon the governments will become more adamant especially when they want to barcode everyone in some way and jab you every year.  Each individual will have to make their own decision as to what they will do...... no more holding of hands...and leading the toddlers along..  We must learn to think and please Jehovah because we want to!
I read an old JW publication in which it explains this very well.  It refers to Psalm 45 where Jehovah will prepare a body for Jesus and he laid it upon the Altar of Jehovah - in the greater temple sanctuary.  This altar stands for the "will of Jehovah".  Jesus came to do the will of Jehovah even right to his death.  So, do we do the bidding of men to stay out of trouble and worship the beast? Or do we do the will of Jehovah and stay faithful only to Him.   There is a difference to fighting for 'freedom' in a political way and only staying calmly and peacefully faithful to Jehovah because Jehovah recognizes our right to choose to serve him. Like Jeus we could be called seditious at this point.
The Mosaic LAW given to the Israelites guarantees freedom of choice and a freedom to own your own property - no one should covet it and take any property of yours away.  So it is in the law of Jehovah.  BUT one must be cautious to politicize this freedom and stand up against government.  It should only be a religious choice.  Especially when the government starts to take away your property, and fine you, and even put you in jail, because you refuse to vote or obey mandates which takes away a choice. 
We all will be facing these choices soon! Be careful not to politicize your choices.

Thinking - you will have to try to get used to the American humor.  I do not understand it myself.  I often tramp in it. LOL

Well after  the thousand years you can run naked thru  the poppy fields and leave your tie behind….wooo hooo!!!!!

They'll eventually track bank accounts with some new ruling.
They're also afraid to say COVID-19 is Endemic.
Although they less restrictions, chance are, they'll bring them back, so for example, if you do go preaching, who is to say you'll be stopped to have your papers checked?
That kind of power those in power will not let go 100%, temporarily, but not permanent.

Hahah….yes I do have trouble with it …especially when it’s written…sarcasm is another that I cannot discern ..in written form…I think I get muddy in it too…which is funny really as B Splane at our last big convention said….” You Australians need to be careful with your speech as some think you come over as harsh and sarcastic “…..I smiled as he said that..( as I know I come over as blunt..) 
 

Thinking - you will have to try to get used to the American humor.  I do not understand it myself.  I often tramp in it. LOL