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    Arauna reacted to TrueTomHarley in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    This has to be super-traumatic to the “these colors don’t run” people. These days they can’t run fast enough. 
    It’s in the back of my mind to ask my Bible student about this. His military stint is done and he now spends time counseling PTSD vets. But I’m reluctant to stir up the pot. He speaks of being in the forward team discussing humanitarian issues, while the special ops team accompanying him (you don’t ask what they are doing, he says) went to work at more nefarious doings.
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    Arauna reacted to TrueTomHarley in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    I think Patiently Sitting on his Hands could find a scandal in a Witness phone directory.
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    Arauna got a reaction from Anna in Millions Now Living Will Never Die! by J.F. Rutherford ??????????? A few questions.   
    I just glanced at what was said above. It seems it is a much created fluffy storm in a tea cup  - about nothing! 
    If I were living in 1919 or in 1935,  and finally understood the scriptures which indicated that a people will live through Armageddon: such as Revelation 20: 1 -3,  Revelation 7 (great crowd).... would you not write a book and articles with a advertising heading such as " Millions now living may never die!". 
    If you suddenly understood that some people will live through Armageddon?  Yes, I would. I can imagine that because I can put myself in their place! Besides, I wrote for a newspaper when reporters could still be called reporters! 
    As I have said before on this forum is that people leave out historical context and look back at history with all the knowledge of 2021!    Hindsight is 20/20 vision. .....
    You remind me of these people who are pulling down statues of kings because they had a black page-boy - with 2021 vision he is now classified as a full blown racist!..... and worthy to be written out of history! 
    People get realistic! We all know that one needs to believe in the ransom sacrifice of Jesus whether you go to heaven or live through Armageddon here on earth. 
    This whole mud throwing title and the rhetoric  is just an artificially created storm in a tea cup.
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from ComfortMyPeople in KAZAKHSTAN: Plagiarised "expert analysis", Jehovah's Witnesses to pay over 3 years' wages   
    They have been putting billionaires in jail for 2 years, 18 months and even longer.... when they come out, they find  their assets have been plundered or taken (corruption is a good excuse to get rid of those who criticize the government) because like a typical Mao communist, Xi is afraid of any strong corporations which do not belong to the central government.  Most large corporations are  owned by the state or military and CCP have the greatest shares. 
    Have you seen what is going on in Hong Kong..?. that is what is coming to the rest of the world if Xi gets his way with the UN   The questions is this !  Did we really think the great tribulation will arrive without China also feeling it? 
    The biggest corruption is Xi himself..... do you really believe his hands are clean from the blood of innocent conscientious objectors?  Yes - I failed to mention that the bank which failed is a property investment bank but guaranteed by NHBC - so this may have contagion in the West.   Millions of Chinese people have invested (and already paid for)  their apartments will NEVER move in.
    This is part of the tribulation the bible speaks about.  And China is part of the beast and actually has become the model for the "Image of the beast" - the UN
    What I have always said is that Communism is capitalism but for only the rich!   The top eshelons are more equal than the rest.  Just like the west has become an oligarchy of corporations which has captured the UN,,,,  China's central government are the people with all the money and the military.... But all Chinese must worship the state .
    In the west we see Klaus Schwab with his  "stakeholder capitalism" - this is capitalism for only the stakeholders and all other lesser billionaires must give way - many banks will close and most will lose their businesses so that the top billionaires can take over in the stakeholder capitalism economy. The 150 richest corporations on earth.  They all have shares in each others corporations and are already like 10 kings behind the scenes of the UN. The UN itself is a corporation, FDA, CDC too! They have been captured by a few billionaires who have total immunity against all crimes - more than diplomats. Most head-offices are in Switzerland.  WHO has given one of these billionaires the  power of a nation state as he is authorized to negotiate with countries for the "sleevers" - predatory loans etc.
    Most Western oligarchs are heavily invested in China as well and China owns many ports and other important assets in the world. I  read an article this week that they are managing one of the main ports of Israel.  So brilliant! They have inside information and could even stop Israeli war ships, cargo ships etc.
    The world is complicated right now - but those who rule the world and want one world government are already in place and bringing their ONE world government and ONE world  morality etc They are setting the stage for their brand of Peace and security... so no more apologetics for China or the West... they are all part of the beast for me!
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from TrueTomHarley in KAZAKHSTAN: Plagiarised "expert analysis", Jehovah's Witnesses to pay over 3 years' wages   
    Then you do not understand what is happening.... 
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    Arauna got a reaction from JW Insider in Odd things you learn (if these are true) when you read other things   
    The Mishnah, the earliest compilation of rabbinic oral law, states that roosters (chickens) may not be raised in Jerusalem due to purity concerns (m. Baba Kama 7.7; see also b. Baba Kama 82b). 
     
    The Mishna was the "oral law" that only came into being AFTER the fall of Jerusalem. Rabbis wanted to keep control of the the masses (the people) and wrote the Misha - which eventually ballooned into the Talmud. So this interesting little titbit may not be accurate for life style BEFORE the destruction of Jerusalem.... and even if it were...... there was NO mention of cocks (prohibitions) in the Mosaic law.  We know that the Pharisees made their own laws - something which Jesus warned against when he was on earth as "leaven."
    I found this in the insight book:  
    An onyx seal bearing the figure of a cock was found near Mizpah and contains the inscription “belonging to Jaazaniah, servant of the king.” If, as some suggest, this Jaazaniah (Jezaniah) is the one mentioned at 2 Kings 25:23 and Jeremiah 40:8, this would indicate the keeping of cocks in Israel back in the seventh century B.C.E. The figure of a cock has also been found on a shard of a cooking pot excavated at ancient Gibeon.
    Both the hen, with its chicks, and the egg are used by Jesus in his illustrations, indicating that the domestic fowl was well known to his listeners.—Mt 23:37; Lu 11:12; 13:34; see HEN, II.
    Pigs were banned by law - and yet Jesus sent a whole lot of them over a cliff!  So a lone cock definitely crowed 3 times when Peter betrayed Jesus!
    Under Hen2 I found this quote: "Certain rabbinic laws forbade the eating of eggs laid on the Sabbath day, since it was held that this constituted work on the part of the hen; some, however, allowed the eating of the eggs if the hen was one kept for eating and not for laying. (Babylonian Talmud, Bezah 2a, b) The Bible, however, contains no such rules.
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    Arauna got a reaction from ComfortMyPeople in KAZAKHSTAN: Plagiarised "expert analysis", Jehovah's Witnesses to pay over 3 years' wages   
    I think I do so too!  But 1 Tess 5:3 speaks of them calling out peace and security and a little further down it becomes interesting.  It also talks about " do not neglect prophecy" - something a lot of witnesses are afraid to do for fear of criticism.... or they just do not bother to study prophecy. 
    One has to be totally unbias if one wants to evaluate what is really going on.... and see where it is heading in the current world ....and highly critical in evaluating sources and just keep focused on prophecy - that helps to keep one focused on one purpose and not deviate and inadvertently take sides in local political disputes. After all - the prophecies for our time mostly refer to global phenomena..... 
    I foresee that banks could go down electronically and they will blame it on hackers - but this is intentional.  We will wait and see if I am on the right track and whether this will be by the end of the year or much later.   I think the powerful 10 kings who are now ruling with the UN, are people who are inadvertently pushing the goals of Satan and are now capable of anything! They have made gaslighting of the masses an art!  Our realities are created for us in this world at present and just like WW2 - too many people are too willing to say " I will lose my job" or  I was only following orders!.  It is after all an "image" from the beast they are projecting in front of us...and most are buying into it... Revelation 16:14 - 16 indicates that that propaganda will lead to Armageddon.
    I lift my head up every time I see something happening that seems to be leading toards the final showdown.  I have health issues - so I hope to be around long enough to see these greedy people (for power, control and money) who bluff themselves that they are doing what they are doing for the "greater good" and sustainability - lose their billions and see everything fall apart that they so arrogantly have built for themselves.
    So many of these billionaires have benefited in the last 19 months by the government handouts of trillions and have bought up land and all resources which will be valuable during the "great reset"  Their plans to save the earth is a big ruse!  They will still be mining rare earth minerals and rape the land while the ordinary folk will pay taxes on their "carbon use". 
    I mentioned yesterday that the situation they have pushed China into may lead to war after the fall of the major bank and contagion in China and the world (HSBC is apparently heavily involved in bank guarantees in China). China may face financial collapse like Hitler did before WW2 when no-one bought anything from the national socialistic state which at the time was a manufacturing power house!   They face collapse or war! 
    Taiwan is the perfect target to start hostilities.  How far this will go I do not know but Daniel 11 gives good indication.  Is the "flooding" merely the financial flooding which already has taken place or a war?  We wait and see... 
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    Arauna got a reaction from JW Insider in KAZAKHSTAN: Plagiarised "expert analysis", Jehovah's Witnesses to pay over 3 years' wages   
    I think I do so too!  But 1 Tess 5:3 speaks of them calling out peace and security and a little further down it becomes interesting.  It also talks about " do not neglect prophecy" - something a lot of witnesses are afraid to do for fear of criticism.... or they just do not bother to study prophecy. 
    One has to be totally unbias if one wants to evaluate what is really going on.... and see where it is heading in the current world ....and highly critical in evaluating sources and just keep focused on prophecy - that helps to keep one focused on one purpose and not deviate and inadvertently take sides in local political disputes. After all - the prophecies for our time mostly refer to global phenomena..... 
    I foresee that banks could go down electronically and they will blame it on hackers - but this is intentional.  We will wait and see if I am on the right track and whether this will be by the end of the year or much later.   I think the powerful 10 kings who are now ruling with the UN, are people who are inadvertently pushing the goals of Satan and are now capable of anything! They have made gaslighting of the masses an art!  Our realities are created for us in this world at present and just like WW2 - too many people are too willing to say " I will lose my job" or  I was only following orders!.  It is after all an "image" from the beast they are projecting in front of us...and most are buying into it... Revelation 16:14 - 16 indicates that that propaganda will lead to Armageddon.
    I lift my head up every time I see something happening that seems to be leading toards the final showdown.  I have health issues - so I hope to be around long enough to see these greedy people (for power, control and money) who bluff themselves that they are doing what they are doing for the "greater good" and sustainability - lose their billions and see everything fall apart that they so arrogantly have built for themselves.
    So many of these billionaires have benefited in the last 19 months by the government handouts of trillions and have bought up land and all resources which will be valuable during the "great reset"  Their plans to save the earth is a big ruse!  They will still be mining rare earth minerals and rape the land while the ordinary folk will pay taxes on their "carbon use". 
    I mentioned yesterday that the situation they have pushed China into may lead to war after the fall of the major bank and contagion in China and the world (HSBC is apparently heavily involved in bank guarantees in China). China may face financial collapse like Hitler did before WW2 when no-one bought anything from the national socialistic state which at the time was a manufacturing power house!   They face collapse or war! 
    Taiwan is the perfect target to start hostilities.  How far this will go I do not know but Daniel 11 gives good indication.  Is the "flooding" merely the financial flooding which already has taken place or a war?  We wait and see... 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Adam and Eve, what they didn't know...   
    If one knows Jehovah's principles - this is not hard.  Just do what is just, merciful and love your neighbor as yourself. The problem is that people do not value their integrity and look for REASONS to disobey.... 
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    Arauna got a reaction from xero in Odd things you learn (if these are true) when you read other things   
    The Mishnah, the earliest compilation of rabbinic oral law, states that roosters (chickens) may not be raised in Jerusalem due to purity concerns (m. Baba Kama 7.7; see also b. Baba Kama 82b). 
     
    The Mishna was the "oral law" that only came into being AFTER the fall of Jerusalem. Rabbis wanted to keep control of the the masses (the people) and wrote the Misha - which eventually ballooned into the Talmud. So this interesting little titbit may not be accurate for life style BEFORE the destruction of Jerusalem.... and even if it were...... there was NO mention of cocks (prohibitions) in the Mosaic law.  We know that the Pharisees made their own laws - something which Jesus warned against when he was on earth as "leaven."
    I found this in the insight book:  
    An onyx seal bearing the figure of a cock was found near Mizpah and contains the inscription “belonging to Jaazaniah, servant of the king.” If, as some suggest, this Jaazaniah (Jezaniah) is the one mentioned at 2 Kings 25:23 and Jeremiah 40:8, this would indicate the keeping of cocks in Israel back in the seventh century B.C.E. The figure of a cock has also been found on a shard of a cooking pot excavated at ancient Gibeon.
    Both the hen, with its chicks, and the egg are used by Jesus in his illustrations, indicating that the domestic fowl was well known to his listeners.—Mt 23:37; Lu 11:12; 13:34; see HEN, II.
    Pigs were banned by law - and yet Jesus sent a whole lot of them over a cliff!  So a lone cock definitely crowed 3 times when Peter betrayed Jesus!
    Under Hen2 I found this quote: "Certain rabbinic laws forbade the eating of eggs laid on the Sabbath day, since it was held that this constituted work on the part of the hen; some, however, allowed the eating of the eggs if the hen was one kept for eating and not for laying. (Babylonian Talmud, Bezah 2a, b) The Bible, however, contains no such rules.
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    Arauna reacted to JW Insider in KAZAKHSTAN: Plagiarised "expert analysis", Jehovah's Witnesses to pay over 3 years' wages   
    I'm LOL too at that one. But I try to temper what I hear from anywhere with actual visits to countries and I never stay only in the tourist areas. I've got plenty of stories where this has caused some close calls, but my wife and I love to travel. 5 continents so far and two to go, and almost always with someone who speaks the language. I almost always seek out the poorest congregations in any country we visit, too. 
    When it comes to getting news, you and I are very much alike. One of the most interesting collections of "news" sources is actually one that I know you are very familiar with. It currently has 781 favorites, and 73 videos saved under docs [documentaries], and a music collection, too, of course.
    I have a non-Witness cousin who has been a producer for 60 Minutes for several years, and who recently began producing for PBS Frontline. (He's been the primary producer of several Frontline shows already.) I have respect for him, but also know that both of these networks have fallen off tremendously in terms of credibility. At times they are only slightly better than CNN.
    Finding credible news sources is very difficult. Finding ones that go into any depth is even harder. We have been in contact with some brothers we know who were terribly affected by the last earthquakes in Haiti (Les Cayes and Baraderes), but did you notice that CNN barely updated that story after a couple of days? Finding unbiased sources of news on Twitter is difficult, and the more honest they get, the more likely they are to lose their accounts. There are also radio station apps on the net (and my phone) that can easily provide literally thousands of local small stations from all over the world. My father was a ham radio operator and always encouraged us as kids to seek out far-away (DX) stations on short-wave and ham and ship-to-shore. We'd spend some Saturday nights as kids learning quite a bit about other places from actual local voices. A lot of care must be taken not to take any one voice too seriously. I always look for voices willing to criticize or even condemn local problems, not just praise them. Also look for more than just two sides to any issue. Look for contradictions. Look for what things persons who hold one view are willing to concede from those who hold varying views.
    I probably take getting news a little too seriously, but no one else should take me that seriously. It's a tough, arduous process, and there is never enough time to do it right. So, another tactic is also to spout off one's most controversial opinions on an internet forum and see who has evidence that can push back or redirect them with additional evidence.
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    Arauna got a reaction from Dmitar in KAZAKHSTAN: Plagiarised "expert analysis", Jehovah's Witnesses to pay over 3 years' wages   
    I do not watch any news of trump - I read or listen to anything (distancing myself) which gives me clues about what is going on internationally with the UN.   I am not (against or for) any things which pertains to America.  Most people watch pro-progressive or pro-Trump stuff.  I do not! I doubt trump will ever have a chance again - the global criminals will put a stop to that!  Like they did before!  If an article mentions either Biden of trump - I ignore it.  I listen to what they say about the NWO.   Trump is very naïve - he is a businessman and was tricked by Fauci into a government EMERGENCY situation where the CDC, FEMA and FDA emergency laws go into effect.  Biden on the other hand is not a fool - he has been in government 40 years (heavily financially compromised and a life-long politician.) The UN and technocrats behind the scenes who were installed in the Obama era (who are all pro-UN One world government) is providing all the decrees he is signing.  But these people running things now are ruthless and even the high court has been compromised by money (their appointments were theatre).
    The UN is already ruling in a fascistic relationship with the WEF and projecting their "image" on the world....  and the Global corporations of the WEF.  They all are legally bound to obey the WHO etc.  This is why we see these weird instructions which benefit the pharmaceutical industrial complex. Medicines with old patents and are now generic drugs - their effectiveness are vilified and false studies published about it.
    By the end of the year we may have another black swan event - Russia or China will be blamed for all the banks going off-line ( they are already planning it now).  They want to bring in a centralized digital banking system linked to UN private banks.  If they do not get their plans completed in this time - they will wait a bit longer and try again!  Their plans are for the long-term.
    The ONE world religion has been on the cards for a very long time! To tell you the truth , I really did not know how they would pull it off because Islam believes it has to rule the world.  But somehow the carrot that they held out  makes them think that they will  get away with being the only religion in the end....... which I would not put past the blinding of  Satan!  ......Whether it works or not - this does not matter because the Pope has his busy nose in everywhere - promoting LGBTQ, getting rid of the priests who do not comply with the new morality, getting politically involved with Agenda 2030 and lobbying other religious leaders .  Yes - they have been ruling but they may get their hour to shine! and ride the beast! ...... but then the UN will turn against them.  We know that Jehovah will step in and make them turn against all religion in the end and then the entire financial system will collapse.
     
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    Arauna got a reaction from Dmitar in Adam and Eve, what they didn't know...   
    I agree with all you said.... except this last sentence.... It seems you have put yourself as a judge... be careful.... we are not here to judge others.  We cannot say someone did something deliberately unless we can prove it is premeditated..... and even them ----- people think about bad things before they do them without realizing they are really bad. 
    David premeditated the murder ....... and yet jehovah frogave him... so be careful how you judge!
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    Arauna got a reaction from Dmitar in Adam and Eve, what they didn't know...   
    This means he had not eaten from it before - and Jehovah now took his opportunity away to eat it. 
    After the thousand years the bible indicates that those who pass the final test as perfect people (like Adam and Eve ) will get to eat the tree of life.  What is so hard to understand that.  Unless you read fallacies on other religious websites. I notice you quoted a Muslim website.
    Since I know this religions well and its absolute inconsistencies I think you should stay away from those!
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Adam and Eve, what they didn't know...   
    This is why it is a universal issue - because a spirit son was thinking bad thoughts before he acted upon them and then enticed eve to sin - just like he enticed Jesus - who did not bite.
    Jesus came down from the spirit realm and became lower than angels and in this form answered Satan by his actions.  Satan and his demons were condemned by jesus' faithful obedience to his death. He also saved imperfect men from the same fate.
    Satan acted like Judas - he had unfaithful thoughts and acted upon them. James 1 : 13 - 15 applied.
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    Arauna got a reaction from xero in Odd things you learn (if these are true) when you read other things   
    I reread the piece - apologies - I was wrong.  It is as apologetic piece for Christians. 
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    Arauna reacted to Pudgy in A. MORRIS AND MONEY   
    …. They had a credit card account at Home Depot.
     
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    Arauna reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Adam and Eve, what they didn't know...   
    Sin didn't exist before the devil tempted Eve.  The angel that became the devil must have been the first to commit sin. 
    The snake would have been a harmless animal, as would all animals.  Adam had control over them all. 
    Berean Study Bible
    Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness, to rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it.”
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    Arauna got a reaction from Dmitar in Adam and Eve, what they didn't know...   
    I do not agree with this statement.  from the insight: The expression “tree of life” is used with regard to true wisdom, the fruitage of the righteous, the realization of a thing desired, and calmness of the tongue; it is also associated with the crown of life. (Pr 3:18; 11:30; 13:12; 15:4; Re 2:7, 10)
    They were put outside the garden because they had eaten from the tree Jehovah said they may not eat. There is no way he would guarantee their everlasting life if they had not passed the test. The tree of life did not have inherent life-giving properties in its fruit - BUT it represented gods guarantee of everlasting life to those he would allow to eat of its fruit  Gen 2:9; 3:22
    Your speculations are not correct my dear
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    Arauna reacted to hgp in Why doesn't the Society translate and provide the Russian Court Transcripts for us?   
    One point before answerig the question: Why would a sane person knowing the points that are contained in your question,  ask for a costly translation of court transcripts that obviously are without worth when taking into account your points?
    Or more directly: Why do you ask for a costly translation of court transcripts that you yourself think worthless?
    Now answering the question: The question contains an obviously false assumption: No one thought this to be an effort to lobby the outcome of a court trial or some sort of bribe. No one really thought that these letters would convince the Russian government to stop persecuting their peaceful JW citicens. No one did really suggest that it would do this.
    The letter, where the Governing Body asked the JW to write those letters contained the following goals:
    1. drawing international attention to the situation.
    2. giving evidence of one's love for their brothers in Russsia
    3. support fellow Christians who face persecution
    Since these goals are obviously sensible and were achieved by the campaign there is no need to look for other hidden agendas that contain obviously not sensible reasons.
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    Arauna reacted to TrueTomHarley in Why doesn't the Society translate and provide the Russian Court Transcripts for us?   
    Thank you. That ought to put a muzzle on the crazed mutt once and for all. Alas, I doubt it will.
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    Arauna reacted to Space Merchant in The Last Days... When?   
    People can still sin against the holy spirit, chosen or not.
    Jesus gave this warning to those under opposition, for he said that one who sinned against the Holy Spirit would not be forgiven in the current day and or things to come.
    A person whom God judged as having sinned against the spirit in would therefore not be in the book of life, no hope for a resurrection, since his sins would never be forgiven.
    This is why the best option is to be neutral with some mainly due to the fact of root origin from then to now.
    That being said, it is a line between forgivable sin and unforgiveable sin, and not being placed in front of the white throne in regards to judgement.
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    Arauna reacted to Space Merchant in The Last Days... When?   
    They're not lies, nor do I twist things, granted me knowing how the enemy operates, that is, the UN, of which you do not know because you made the claim you do not wish to know; being unaware of a lion that is in the weeds. If they were indeed lies, then it would not have stopped you from showing a UN Charter and or Resolution written and or made like all DPI/NGOs. If I recall, you were not able to provide anything the last 2 times it was discussed:
    As I told you before, a DPI status only with no Resolution and or Charter isn't part of the UN. There are steps and approvals.
    Therefore, you professed a lie in regards to the United Nations and it's inner workings. You also had no idea what ECOSOC was.
    You never dealt with anything UN related, therefore, you using a conspiracy to justify a truth is, in of itself, a lie, therefore, my hatred for the UN does not even enable me to twist things, let alone culture, as mentioned to you before.
    That being said, best to stay your blade regarding the United Nations because all it will take is one quote.
    For someone who is Christian to ignore something hidden in the weeds and tall grass, only makes you a target, like all MSCs, such as yourself.
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    Arauna got a reaction from Dmitar in 2034 and its significance...   
    No - you are saying that - perfect example of twisting....... not a reasoning person....  so I think I am done with you....   you are interested only in being contentious as I clearly said before! 
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