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    Arauna got a reaction from Thinking in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    Spot on observation. A chance to show doubt and hate. It is clearly part of all the propaganda now leading to Armageddon.  
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    Arauna got a reaction from Dmitar in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    Only the characters I have come to know who have the same attitude as you do - that compulsive hate...... there is never a balanced way in the thinking processes ....... it is never ever positive. Always the modus operadi smells foul. 
    On the other hand I do not always agree with JW Insider and have accused him of other stuff but never of hate-OCD.  That is a special designation for people with specific personality traits.  So - you have that assessment wrong as well! 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Pudgy in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    Truly noble of you considering all the other hate you throw around freely! 
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    Arauna reacted to TrueTomHarley in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    It is a great nuisance, let me tell you, but it has always been. Here I am trying to do nothing but think about God and they keep batting eyes at me.
  5. Haha
    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    Truly noble of you considering all the other hate you throw around freely! 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    Only the characters I have come to know who have the same attitude as you do - that compulsive hate...... there is never a balanced way in the thinking processes ....... it is never ever positive. Always the modus operadi smells foul. 
    On the other hand I do not always agree with JW Insider and have accused him of other stuff but never of hate-OCD.  That is a special designation for people with specific personality traits.  So - you have that assessment wrong as well! 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Thinking in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    This is a reply to the person who made this comment the first time!  Not for Tom!
    I come across as emotional because I have a strong way of expressing myself.  I am South African.... but believe me your logic and rationality is not more than mine - so you must have more female hormones than I do.... lol.
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    Arauna reacted to TrueTomHarley in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    Exactly.
    And you Arauna, do not come off as emotional at all. You come off as passionate, to be sure, but never at the expense of clear thinking.
    He, on the other hand, makes so many contradictory, nonsequitur, and ridiculous statements, his thinking is so muddled that, despite my nobler instincts, I am drawn in again and again to kick him in the rear end. Accusing others of being sexist and then proving it true of himself in spades is just the latest example.
    (Not to mention, no doubt, his subsequent crying like a baby that merely quoting his words is “misrepresenting” hm.)
    For crying out loud, you dodo, just tell me what you mean to say and I will say it for you. (though perhaps not with the same malignant spin)
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    Spot on observation. A chance to show doubt and hate. It is clearly part of all the propaganda now leading to Armageddon.  
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    Don't play superficial games with me - I see through the OCD
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    Psychological tactics... lol.  Does not work on adults that think straight.
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    Arauna reacted to Thinking in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    The demons are very active on forums …it gives them the voice that Jehovah took from them.
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    Arauna got a reaction from Dmitar in Matthew 13 Wheat and weeds, and, when and where is the Kingdom ?   
    It seems you only apply the pieces you want to.
    When Jesus was on earth he gave this illustration. Jesus planted the fine wheat - sons of the kingdom.  Satan sowed weeds in amongst the wheat in the time of Jesus.  Greek philosophy and pagan teachings together with those who were bringing in immorality into the congregation was already visible in the congregation in time of the apostles. The apostles wrote about this in their letters - warning brothers against the wicked.  For example: one man was removed from the congregation for sleeping with his mother.
    As soon as John died t(and even before) he bad seed got a foothold in the congregation ( the bad seeds were already there) for the creation of powerful Christendom. Christen-dom is religion with political power. The creation of the Roman catholic church and its powerful leaders ruled for centuries and were responsible for the dark ages in europe.
    Jesus said that they must let the true wheat and the bad seeds grow together until the time of the end. During the dominion of false Christendom many true wheat were murdered.  People such as Wycliffe, Johannes Huss - and people like them -  were burned on the stake and tortured for translating the bible.  THese could have been anointed people and part of the wheat. 
    As Daniel indicates - near the time of the harvest people will start to investigate the word of god close to the establishment of the kingdom.  This happened after the secular renaissance. When the power of the church started to wane a little people started to independently research the bible.  This gave opportunity to spread the truth and the inspection of those professing to be the wheat took place as Mal 3:1-3 indicates.  The wheat was cleansed.
    Jehovah had a people for his name on earth again who did not learn war any more Isaiah 2:2-4 
    "Mal 3 : 17  “And they will be mine,”y says Jehovah of armies, “in the day when I produce a special property.*z I will show them compassion, just as a man shows compassion to his son who serves him.a 18  And you will again see the distinction between a righteous person and a wicked person,b between one serving God and one not serving him.”
    Soon the wheat and the imitation wheat will be separated and the imitation wheat be destroyed. The "man of lawlessness" will be revealed.  For example many churches are making the new morality acceptable and the pope is pushing  the LGBTQ and UN Agenda 2030.  The harlot is riding the beast just like before but she is blatant about it and thinks she is riding like a queen ... that nothing can happen to her. Orthodox religion is standing up against the governments and getting involved in politics (also riding the beast in different way). False religion is starting to show their true colors by following political agendas - they have the mark of the beast - politics.!
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    Arauna got a reaction from Thinking in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    No - you need the spirit of Jehovah to understand and obey.  We must pray often to understand scripture better and to obey - do you?  Do you also ... obey?  Do you gather together with people who worship Jehovah and understand the position of jesus and what his kingdom wll do for us.  Do you regularly preach as we are instructed in scripture to do.  
    Criticizing Gb on this forum is not preaching....  I mean talking daily to people about your faith..... 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Anna in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    Do you believe you are one of them? Just asking, because you overlook all the other principles in Jehovah's word to champion a cause which is not scriptural. Nowhere in the bible does it say that anointed must be separated, circumcised and uncircumcised be separated, or any other separate groups allowed. It speaks of all brothers and sisters meeting together to build one another up.  There is nothing about separate clubs forming etc.
    Actually, the bible says that those who separate themselves are promoting self-interest. 
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    That is the impression I also have.  A bunch of people who have hate-OCD and come here to troll.  There is not genuine interest in learning anything from anyone!  You are merely here to waste our time..... deliberately!
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    Yea that is clear to all of us.... but some nuts do think they are - as some other persons on here.
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    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    We know this person's writings better than you.  Do now write about what you do not know - you come across as very gullible!
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    Arauna got a reaction from JW Insider in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    Do you believe you are one of them? Just asking, because you overlook all the other principles in Jehovah's word to champion a cause which is not scriptural. Nowhere in the bible does it say that anointed must be separated, circumcised and uncircumcised be separated, or any other separate groups allowed. It speaks of all brothers and sisters meeting together to build one another up.  There is nothing about separate clubs forming etc.
    Actually, the bible says that those who separate themselves are promoting self-interest. 
  20. Haha
    Arauna got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    Do you believe you are one of them? Just asking, because you overlook all the other principles in Jehovah's word to champion a cause which is not scriptural. Nowhere in the bible does it say that anointed must be separated, circumcised and uncircumcised be separated, or any other separate groups allowed. It speaks of all brothers and sisters meeting together to build one another up.  There is nothing about separate clubs forming etc.
    Actually, the bible says that those who separate themselves are promoting self-interest. 
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    Arauna reacted to JW Insider in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    It was 4:45 am and I decided to watch this video. Very strange. It's the first I ever heard of such a "brother" at Walkill Bethel. While I was at Brooklyn Bethel I never had an opportunity to go to Walkill but once, and that was only to look at a piece of typesetting equipment being designed by some brothers up there. I couldn't believe anyone there had been given so much freedom to work on their own projects, and here was a group of several brothers doing just that, and that particular project (electronic typesetting) turned out to be a great success soon adopted by the WTS.
    If someone knew the Walkill Bethel family during the years in question, it wouldn't be too hard to figure out who this man with the notebooks was. If I heard the video narration accurately (at 2.5x speed) it sounds like he had a brother and a wife also at Walkill, and he implies perhaps even another relative. Even at Brooklyn, during the time I was there (1976 to 1982) the turnover rate was very high. A complaint in the Home Office was that Elders all around the country were quick to approve their "problem cases" from their local congregations in the hopes that Bethel would "fix" them. Even the group I came in with had a brother who kept asking me to join his new study group because he realized he was now anointed. I assume there were others. In fact, I knew several brothers who were involved in private Bible study groups usually in the room of a brother from the Writing Dept, or Service Dept, and who were very upset (myself included) that a "crazy" brother was going to ruin this wonderful opportunity to study with highly experienced brothers, because this one "crazy" one was spreading strange ideas that might end up getting all of the private study groups closed down because of "one bad apple." I knew about 10 brothers who had come from my home state in nearby circuits, and three of them returned with serious mental problems, which may not have been in evidence before they were approved to be accepted to Bethel.
    So I don't doubt that brothers who had strange ideas about themselves could have existed, and might have been protected to some degree by a close friend, roommate, wife or relative, who was there with them.
    But I think the video narration breaks down in accuracy when he talks about Brooklyn Bethel's tunnels as if they were something secret. I was on the tour guide list, so every week or so, I was called away from work to handle one of the tours. Fairly often, I would hear the visitors ask, "Are you really going to show us the secret tunnels???" Or, "Is it true that Bethel has secret tunnels?" And my response was that of course we are going to see them, we'll use them to get between 124, 107, and The Towers Hotel. The main reason for the tunnels was to avoid airing Bethel's dirty laundry. And to avoid airing the clean laundry, too. That's because the laundry room was connected to the tunnels between the buildings, and this way all deliveries of laundry to and from the residence rooms could be rolled through the tunnels and never have to go through the otherwise quiet and up-scale neighborhood of Brooklyn Heights. The neighborhood thought it was bad enough that Bethel factory workers crossed back and forth after breakfast, at lunch and dinnertime. (No tunnels to the "117 Adams" factories or "25 and 30 CH Squibb bldgs.") Imagine 1,000 people all crossing the street level at once around 6:55am to be seated for 7:00am text and breakfast!
    There was absolutely nothing secret about the tunnels. No places for sinister meetings. They were at least 7 feet high, at least 10 feet wide, well-lit and constantly traversed.
    I don't know if or care if "Pearl" begins to respond to people without thinking what she is going to say in advance. That description might be something odd as @Thinking has said, or it might be a lot like the way some of the brothers in Writing or Correspondence (part of Service Dept at the time) answered questions. When a question came in by letter, they were expected to just start writing without referring to notes or any preparation, and I knew brothers who could write pages and pages with scripture references and never prepare for the question specifically. One brother in Writing, who had written large portions of the Aid Book also wrote Watchtower articles and convention material this way, even the study articles. He'd be given a theme to write about and often just started typing at about 70 wpm and ended up with the entire study article, scriptures and all, requiring no edits.
    The idea that there were "channelers" at Bethel who were given any credence at all, might be a conflation of mixed up information about the Seola book which the WTS rewrote as "Angels and Women" and actually promoted it as a "channeled" book. There were also the "Radio" therapy machines promoted by the WTS, which were NOT promoted as any kind of spiriitism, but non WTS versions of these machines sometimes were. Then there were opposers of JWs who made much of the admissions by the editor of the Golden Age magazine that he was once demon-possessed which he says caused him to disagree with Russell on an important matter. (It's in a WT-printed letter and a Convention Report.) And, it's a long shot, but some of the conflation could have come from Rutherford himself who had claimed that since 1918, Jehovah's holy spirit was removed from "his holy temple" and now "lightnings" were made to "flash and shine" through direct communication with angels. (That teaching didn't last for too many years.) And then there was one GB member from about 1974 to 2000+ who sometimes (but rarely) suffered from a kind of epilepsy apparently and would appear to be in a kind of trance, which affected his speech patterns. His wife would tell him, "Back to earth, [name removed], come on down back to earth."
    I could see how one or more of these things could be twisted into a rumor of the kind that results in stories.
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    Arauna got a reaction from Thinking in Climate change is the LEAST of anyones' REAL problems.   
    I doubt it.  Human Rights are gone forever until Jehovah restores it. The great reset is what is good for the collective and individual rights no longer count. That is why babies aborted at 9 months are left to die (without pain relief) and their body parts sold to the government for experiments.  Chimera experiments are ongoing for body parts. Science has gone rogue and without logic. Life is cheap and we are heading for a similar path that Germany saw during WW2 with Dr mengele. 
    I read an article this week about what is going on in China - mixed human/animals experiments - shocking stuff!  what is legally happening to people all over the world is shocking.  The rulers are now just ignoring laws that were put in place to protect the lives of people.  Soon they will approve the vaccine (without proper science data to prove it efficacy and its safety).  It will be given to children and everyone.  There are no decent records kept on this vaccine and I have a nasty suspicion it is deliberate. 
    Fauci did not only pay a few million dollars to China for gain-of-function work (against the moratorium imposed by Obama) - the amount is closer to 1 billion over the years. Sars1 as well as Sars 2 Cov-19 are both bioweapons created in labs. (This  is no longer "conspiracy" theory but  a 90% probability as there is a synthetic code insert in the virus.   Sars one was developed because they wanted an easy  vector to carry the AIDs vaccine.  Corona viruses are more easily modified. The history of Sars 1 (Corona) goes back more than 20 years.
    When they withhold information about the injuries and medical doctors and virologists cannot even get accurate  numbers and they are not allowed to see the sequences - there is a snake in the grass. No transparency leads to suspicion - especially amongst the true scientists and virologist - especially when they are de-platformed and the opinion of the corporations are touted as the real science when they are clearly financially compromised. 
    They are making out that being a careful individual who is a skeptic makes one an anti-roll-up- your- arm-sleever.  I believe it is good to be skeptical until one sees the science data. 
    But either way..... whether you took the vaccine or not - the world is heading for disaster.  The vaccine produces blood clots, nerve injuries, and accumulates in the ovaries and the spinal cord which over time leads to retro-viruses attacking the body, blood disorders, thrombocytopenia, and a slew of other problems which eventually causes death.  Those with the disease of Covid get the same symptoms.
    A family member took the roll-up-your-sleever  and soon after developed shingles,  I have had the virus at least 2 times and have just recovered from a long bout of shingles.  A bible study of mine was healthy and took the roll-up your sleever and she regrets it.  She feels sick all the time whereas she was robustly healthy before.
    Either way - the world is heading for trouble.  As Ezekiel said - a third died of pestilence and hunger.  
     
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    Arauna reacted to Anna in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    Most of the time I don't read it, and the rest of the time I just skim over it. It's just the same old I've heard a hundred times before......
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    Arauna reacted to TrueTomHarley in Charles Taze Russell: Dates, Expectations, Predictions, Apologies, Response, Relevance   
    No surprise there. She has made some converts here though, PSomH, Srecko, and KickFace, for example, fall all over her. @Patiently waiting for Truth,your TrueAnointed has revealed herself. However, I’m not sure she has any doctrine other than expressing jealousy over those who have a bigger stage than she does. And she channels. Where does that come from?
    I have incorrectly called her ‘woman from the hills.’ My bad.
    Seriously, it is such a weird and obsessed sort of writing—I don’t know how anyone can fail to spot a rat. @JW Insider @Arauna @Anna @The Librarian @Pudgy
    Given the ‘channeling’ concerns Thinking raised, one would think conversing with a bot would be more productive, not to mention spiritually safer.
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    Arauna reacted to TrueTomHarley in Climate change is the LEAST of anyones' REAL problems.   
    He hedged his own call by saying if they are not called to account in this life, they will be in the afterlife.
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