Arauna

The united nations is bringing in an electronic money system and a covid-19 passport dictatorship which will surveille everyone - including what they will buy or sell. 3rd world countries are now receiving help from the IMF etc to survive Corona.  There are predatory strings attached to them receiving financial help.  They have to tow the line. It is very possible that by 2030 the UN Agenda 2030 will be fully implemented.  Biden is accelerating UN Agenda 2030 with all his executive orders for sustainable development. The emergency powers given by Trump has played into the hands of the World Economic Forum - which has an agreement with UN to assist with money to have the UN plan implemented ........ to bring world 'peace and security' and the earth saved by "sustainability'........

I think some here may agree, that James 1:27 tells us that there is no need to join an organization where the leadership has failed at ‘bridling’ their tongue.  Their teachings, changed doctrine taught once as fact; and today’s doctrine that will change out of necessity, proves their heart is deceptive.  
“If anyone among you thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this one’s religion is useless.”  James 1:26
Why pursue a useless religion.
The Bible considers deception, which is the doctrine of men that has defiled God’s Word with the word of their own, as spiritual filth. (Prov 13:5; Matt 7:15,19; 15:9; Eph 4:14,15) The anointed in the organization had truth implanted in their heart at their anointing.  (John 8:32; 1 John 2:21,27) However they are choosing the words of men, over the pure and undefiled word of God in Christ. (Lam 2:14; Matt 24:23-25)
Again the word of the Lord came to me: 24 “Son of man, say to the land, ‘You are a land that has not been cleansed or rained on in the day of wrath.’ 25 There is a conspiracy of her prophets (GB) within her like a roaring lion tearing its prey; they devour people, take treasures and precious things and make many widows within her. 26 Her priests (elders) do violence to my law and profane my holy things (Temple/anointed/dwelling of God 1 Cor 3:16,17);
they do not distinguish between the holy and the common; they teach that there is no difference between the unclean and the clean; and they shut their eyes to the keeping of my Sabbaths, so that I am profaned among them. 27 Her officials within her are like wolves tearing their prey; they shed blood and kill people to make unjust gain. (disfellowshipping, a spiritual “death” Rev 13:15)
28 Her prophets whitewash these deeds for them by false visions and lying divinations. They say, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says’—when the Lord has not spoken.
 29 The people of the land practice extortion and commit robbery; they oppress the poor and needy and mistreat the foreigner, denying them justice.  Ezek 22
“Therefore lay aside all filthiness and overflow of wickedness, and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls.”  James 1:21
 

When the flood came - then people were in grief.  Up to that point they took no note.  Similarly today - there is a lockdown and people are still unconcerned.  They think things will improve in future.  When food shortage hit and the tribulation - then they will be in grief.  Especially when religion is destroyed!
 

I do not completely agree - wait until there are food shortages and more lockdowns etc.... and more tyranny.  This is the beginning of the great tribulation.  If you know what happened in Jerusalem lockdowns (sieges) then you will have a good inkling of what is waiting for mankind on a worldwide scale.

I visited an old age home as a reporter many years ago in Africa.  The Afrikaner whites are an extremely religious people.
They showed me a sweet looking elderly couple in their 80s.  The old lady became hyperactive due to 'adrenal issues' and was on the go (hyperactive) in excess.  The old man was a very relaxed quiet type of guy.... not easily roused.
Once day a nurse came into the room and the old man was strangling the old lady.  They had to put them in separate rooms from then on and watch them. 
Yes, living confined with dementia or other health issues can bring out the worst in anyone / or in each other. The JW elder may not have taken the old man seriously enough to report him to a psychiatrist or to the police.  What else could he do? Remove the old man from his own home? 
These are issues which are hard to deal with in the elderly..... and not all end up in real murder.....The man is still head of his own household and it is a tragedy the situation was out of control.  Some old people also get a controlling streak which aggravates with age.  Having served god for many years I will leave it in the hands of Jehovah to judge the situation. Maybe the old man could not watch her suffering any longer ?  His frustration with her was too much? 
I do not have a 'blanket' respect  for all judges after seeing the level of lawless judgments in USA, UK, Canada, Australia and NZ. It is like the period before the Israelites were exiled from Jerusalem....  Judges were more corrupt than the people to  benefit themselves.  I see a similar pattern today.  So do not take this judge's censure too seriously. There are good judges and useless ones.  This one just wanted to get back at JWs.  He is not a thoughtful person.

True - so if I were them I will use it to help brothers and sisters while we can.  Many have lost jobs.

I am 68 years old.  I worked hard in my lifetime - so I now relax and do what I like - such as field service.

Judge and executioner.  You obviously do very little bible reading.

@Anna@ThinkingThere is an update on this. Turns out there was no censure at all, and it took the coroner himself to set the record straight. 
”We would like to state that at no time did the Coroner find that opportunities existed and/or were missed by any individual or group to prevent the murder.”
https://redditchstandard.co.uk/news/clarification-of-coroners-findings/?fbclid=IwAR1YUsWpy38RFhiS4mBvYA8f_oHJ-z95XSLSMHMXv2YFunyMEKwS5ipX2yM
Once again, the story was posted here by a dodo who presents his wishful thinking as though it was fact.
 
 
 

I am 68 years old.  I worked hard in my lifetime - so I now relax and do what I like - such as field service.

I do not have time for your trolling.  I do not pretend - I know!!!
 
Please inform which religions believe that Jesus put his SOUL in death...."The soul that sinneth it shall die".  Jesus only received immortality AFTER he was raised up. It was a reward for his faithfulness.

I visited an old age home as a reporter many years ago in Africa.  The Afrikaner whites are an extremely religious people.
They showed me a sweet looking elderly couple in their 80s.  The old lady became hyperactive due to 'adrenal issues' and was on the go (hyperactive) in excess.  The old man was a very relaxed quiet type of guy.... not easily roused.
Once day a nurse came into the room and the old man was strangling the old lady.  They had to put them in separate rooms from then on and watch them. 
Yes, living confined with dementia or other health issues can bring out the worst in anyone / or in each other. The JW elder may not have taken the old man seriously enough to report him to a psychiatrist or to the police.  What else could he do? Remove the old man from his own home? 
These are issues which are hard to deal with in the elderly..... and not all end up in real murder.....The man is still head of his own household and it is a tragedy the situation was out of control.  Some old people also get a controlling streak which aggravates with age.  Having served god for many years I will leave it in the hands of Jehovah to judge the situation. Maybe the old man could not watch her suffering any longer ?  His frustration with her was too much? 
I do not have a 'blanket' respect  for all judges after seeing the level of lawless judgments in USA, UK, Canada, Australia and NZ. It is like the period before the Israelites were exiled from Jerusalem....  Judges were more corrupt than the people to  benefit themselves.  I see a similar pattern today.  So do not take this judge's censure too seriously. There are good judges and useless ones.  This one just wanted to get back at JWs.  He is not a thoughtful person.

There is a turn against christianity all over.  They are preparing us for the persecution.  Old books can give one away.

I visited an old age home as a reporter many years ago in Africa.  The Afrikaner whites are an extremely religious people.
They showed me a sweet looking elderly couple in their 80s.  The old lady became hyperactive due to 'adrenal issues' and was on the go (hyperactive) in excess.  The old man was a very relaxed quiet type of guy.... not easily roused.
Once day a nurse came into the room and the old man was strangling the old lady.  They had to put them in separate rooms from then on and watch them. 
Yes, living confined with dementia or other health issues can bring out the worst in anyone / or in each other. The JW elder may not have taken the old man seriously enough to report him to a psychiatrist or to the police.  What else could he do? Remove the old man from his own home? 
These are issues which are hard to deal with in the elderly..... and not all end up in real murder.....The man is still head of his own household and it is a tragedy the situation was out of control.  Some old people also get a controlling streak which aggravates with age.  Having served god for many years I will leave it in the hands of Jehovah to judge the situation. Maybe the old man could not watch her suffering any longer ?  His frustration with her was too much? 
I do not have a 'blanket' respect  for all judges after seeing the level of lawless judgments in USA, UK, Canada, Australia and NZ. It is like the period before the Israelites were exiled from Jerusalem....  Judges were more corrupt than the people to  benefit themselves.  I see a similar pattern today.  So do not take this judge's censure too seriously. There are good judges and useless ones.  This one just wanted to get back at JWs.  He is not a thoughtful person.

I do not have time for your trolling.  I do not pretend - I know!!!
 
Please inform which religions believe that Jesus put his SOUL in death...."The soul that sinneth it shall die".  Jesus only received immortality AFTER he was raised up. It was a reward for his faithfulness.

The questionnaire above is in line with the teaching that the soul of Jesus was not immortal before his death - so he really died completely.  He did not exist for 3 days.  please confirm which other Christian religions believe this? According to you it must be a looooong list. If you do not understand the ransom - then you are not saved - period.

"The following questions were prepared by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in reply to a request for debate from the Moody Bible Institute. The Society proposed that if they could satisfactorily give them Bible answers to these questions, then they would be willing to debate. An answer was never received.

1. Was Eden on earth or in heaven?

2. Was Adam created mortal or immortal?

3. If Adam had not sinned, would he have died?

4. On account of sin Adam died, so does that prove he was mortal?

5. Is there a difference between eternal life and immortality?

6. If Adam had lived forever, would you call that immortality?

7. Can a person live eternally, and yet, not be immortal?

8. If Adam could not go to heaven without dying, and could not die without sinning, does that not prove sin was a blessing to the human family?

9. Did Adam lose an earthly or heavenly home?

10 If Jesus came to restore what Adam lost (Luke 19:10), what will be restored?

11. Was Adam a single individual, or two individuals in one?

12. If composed of two parts, soul and body; which one was Adam?

13. What was the responsible part that could think, feel, and act?

14. Which part was it that sinned, soul or body?

15. If it was the soul, then why does the body have to suffer?

16. If it was the body, then why does the soul need to be saved?

17. In Genesis 3:11 (“Who told thee thou wast naked?”), which part of Adam did God talk to, soul or body?

18. What is the “thou” referred to in Genesis 3:17 (“Thou hast eaten”)?

19. If you say it refers to the soul, then to what does the word “thou” refer to in Genesis 3:19, 20 (“Dust thou art, and to dust, thou shalt return.”)?

20. How many different penalties were passed on Adam for sinning?

21. Was one penalty pronounced against the soul, and a different one against the body?

22. Then, explain Ezekiel 18:20 and Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6, 10?

23. Is the penalty mentioned at Genesis 2:17, different from Genesis 3:19?

24. If there was only one penalty, what was it?

25. Does the Bible say the penalty against Adam, was death, a returning to the dust?

26. Or, an endless life of misery in a burning hell?

27. Suppose that all that happened in Eden, no Savior had come; where would the human race spend eternity (righteous David, for example.)?

28. Did Jesus really die when he was impaled at Golgotha?

29. Or, was it only his body that died (implying that Jesus soul is immortal)?

30. If Jesus had an immortal soul that did not die, and that immortal was Jesus himself; have we not been misinformed that Jesus died for sinners?

31. Why not just say that the body Jesus lived in died for the body Adam lived in, and that the real Jesus did not die at all, and the real Adam (and the rest of humanity) simply was not (were not) saved?"
   

"The following questions were prepared by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in reply to a request for debate from the Moody Bible Institute. The Society proposed that if they could satisfactorily give them Bible answers to these questions, then they would be willing to debate. An answer was never received.

1. Was Eden on earth or in heaven?

2. Was Adam created mortal or immortal?

3. If Adam had not sinned, would he have died?

4. On account of sin Adam died, so does that prove he was mortal?

5. Is there a difference between eternal life and immortality?

6. If Adam had lived forever, would you call that immortality?

7. Can a person live eternally, and yet, not be immortal?

8. If Adam could not go to heaven without dying, and could not die without sinning, does that not prove sin was a blessing to the human family?

9. Did Adam lose an earthly or heavenly home?

10 If Jesus came to restore what Adam lost (Luke 19:10), what will be restored?

11. Was Adam a single individual, or two individuals in one?

12. If composed of two parts, soul and body; which one was Adam?

13. What was the responsible part that could think, feel, and act?

14. Which part was it that sinned, soul or body?

15. If it was the soul, then why does the body have to suffer?

16. If it was the body, then why does the soul need to be saved?

17. In Genesis 3:11 (“Who told thee thou wast naked?”), which part of Adam did God talk to, soul or body?

18. What is the “thou” referred to in Genesis 3:17 (“Thou hast eaten”)?

19. If you say it refers to the soul, then to what does the word “thou” refer to in Genesis 3:19, 20 (“Dust thou art, and to dust, thou shalt return.”)?

20. How many different penalties were passed on Adam for sinning?

21. Was one penalty pronounced against the soul, and a different one against the body?

22. Then, explain Ezekiel 18:20 and Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6, 10?

23. Is the penalty mentioned at Genesis 2:17, different from Genesis 3:19?

24. If there was only one penalty, what was it?

25. Does the Bible say the penalty against Adam, was death, a returning to the dust?

26. Or, an endless life of misery in a burning hell?

27. Suppose that all that happened in Eden, no Savior had come; where would the human race spend eternity (righteous David, for example.)?

28. Did Jesus really die when he was impaled at Golgotha?

29. Or, was it only his body that died (implying that Jesus soul is immortal)?

30. If Jesus had an immortal soul that did not die, and that immortal was Jesus himself; have we not been misinformed that Jesus died for sinners?

31. Why not just say that the body Jesus lived in died for the body Adam lived in, and that the real Jesus did not die at all, and the real Adam (and the rest of humanity) simply was not (were not) saved?"
   

You seem to think you know it all. If you do not know how JWs compare with other religions then you have no right to critisize like you are an expert on religion.

I think the list of questions you are thinking of are in the JW Only "club." You can always copy them here, of course.

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I visited an old age home as a reporter many years ago in Africa.  The Afrikaner whites are an extremely religious people.
They showed me a sweet looking elderly couple in their 80s.  The old lady became hyperactive due to 'adrenal issues' and was on the go (hyperactive) in excess.  The old man was a very relaxed quiet type of guy.... not easily roused.
Once day a nurse came into the room and the old man was strangling the old lady.  They had to put them in separate rooms from then on and watch them. 
Yes, living confined with dementia or other health issues can bring out the worst in anyone / or in each other. The JW elder may not have taken the old man seriously enough to report him to a psychiatrist or to the police.  What else could he do? Remove the old man from his own home? 
These are issues which are hard to deal with in the elderly..... and not all end up in real murder.....The man is still head of his own household and it is a tragedy the situation was out of control.  Some old people also get a controlling streak which aggravates with age.  Having served god for many years I will leave it in the hands of Jehovah to judge the situation. Maybe the old man could not watch her suffering any longer ?  His frustration with her was too much? 
I do not have a 'blanket' respect  for all judges after seeing the level of lawless judgments in USA, UK, Canada, Australia and NZ. It is like the period before the Israelites were exiled from Jerusalem....  Judges were more corrupt than the people to  benefit themselves.  I see a similar pattern today.  So do not take this judge's censure too seriously. There are good judges and useless ones.  This one just wanted to get back at JWs.  He is not a thoughtful person.

In all probability, the reporter saw a Watchtower in the trash, and that was enough for them to be “devout Jehovah’s Witnesses.”
Within the last few weeks, 4Jah (who for some inane reason, has changed his name—perhaps because “jah” now offends him) has posted a lawyer’s trolling for clients as though it was cutting edge reporting. And Witness heralded some rumor about Watchtower and the ARC and almost immediately had to take it back as it proved false.
No one has time to unravel them all, but this will prove to be something similar. Or it may be just as you said, an end case of dementia or a mate who could no longer see the other suffer. As to somehow it becoming the fault of elders, we routinely hear of atrocities committed today and it turns out that the persons had been reported previously to police. But they receive so many of these reports, from so many persons, that they can’t possibly keep up, and such reports fall through the cracks. There is at most a quick visit by a social worker to pronounce counsel was given & all is now okay, and then a mass shoot-em-up occurs. 
Charles Manson’s greatest contribution to society—some would say his only contribution, was to say: “It used to be that being crazy meant something. Nowadays, everyone is crazy.”

I visited an old age home as a reporter many years ago in Africa.  The Afrikaner whites are an extremely religious people.
They showed me a sweet looking elderly couple in their 80s.  The old lady became hyperactive due to 'adrenal issues' and was on the go (hyperactive) in excess.  The old man was a very relaxed quiet type of guy.... not easily roused.
Once day a nurse came into the room and the old man was strangling the old lady.  They had to put them in separate rooms from then on and watch them. 
Yes, living confined with dementia or other health issues can bring out the worst in anyone / or in each other. The JW elder may not have taken the old man seriously enough to report him to a psychiatrist or to the police.  What else could he do? Remove the old man from his own home? 
These are issues which are hard to deal with in the elderly..... and not all end up in real murder.....The man is still head of his own household and it is a tragedy the situation was out of control.  Some old people also get a controlling streak which aggravates with age.  Having served god for many years I will leave it in the hands of Jehovah to judge the situation. Maybe the old man could not watch her suffering any longer ?  His frustration with her was too much? 
I do not have a 'blanket' respect  for all judges after seeing the level of lawless judgments in USA, UK, Canada, Australia and NZ. It is like the period before the Israelites were exiled from Jerusalem....  Judges were more corrupt than the people to  benefit themselves.  I see a similar pattern today.  So do not take this judge's censure too seriously. There are good judges and useless ones.  This one just wanted to get back at JWs.  He is not a thoughtful person.

Here’s the latest from Billie Eilish, the newest singing sensation, who until recently dressed like a sack of potatoes and wore her hair green:
https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2021/may/02/billie-eilish-says-all-her-age-group-have-suffered-sexual-misbehaviour
She says she doesn’t know a single peer who hasn’t experienced some sort of underage abuse. “It’s everywhere.”
This is the world human rulership has delivered to us. Notice how she breaks ranks with 4Jah and Witness and doesn’t blame it on Jehovah’s Witnesses.