The Librarian

@John Lindsay Barltrop Did I read on Russia that material was put in KH's by the Russian Orthodox Church? In the statement that means she's in hot water too?! It might mean soooon to get rid of Babylon the Great? What a "swift pitch" that would be? Politics and Church is ready to disagree some more of course. But think a minute, who puts in the thoughts to destroy Babylon the Great? I know you know. It could be instantly! Think on that one? Good night from USA. 
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I have not seen any direct evidence that it was sarin gas. The evidence for such things has been proffered before by "white helmets" whose members have been caught involved in the heinous types of crimes they want to pretend are only being perpetrated by others. They have kidnapped and beheaded children and then used children in their humanitarian PR to see if they can get powers like the US to intercede on their behalf. Some of the first proofs were made by showing undamaged canisters as if that was the way to drop sarin gas from airplanes. And if the amounts necessary to cause the kinds of death displayed on videos were from exploded canisters over such an area then the perfectly placed video makers forgot that they were not supposed to touch the bodies so soon, and not all remembered that they needed to show themselves with masks on, and other necessary protective gear. This was only slightly better done (with mistakes) than previous attempts to make a toxic gas video. I also have heard that some intelligence also picked up on conversations from the day before of people claiming they were preparing toxic gas announcements for the following day - the day of the attack. The right way to make such a video of course is to get to a scene of an actual conventional bombing and then bring some actors who are willing to "writhe to death" among the dead bodies. Naturally, we will believe that a cameraman (or crew) is filming during a live sarin gas attack close enough to the toxicity to kill themselves.
I can't say that it didn't happen, or will not happen. Obviously, even the US has used toxic gases and chemicals for years, and has even manufactured and sold such weapons for years. But Assad and Russia also know the stakes, and the timing is suspicious. What we think is based on what media we pay attention to, and right now there is too much confusion and past fraud to call anything 'direct evidence.'

It seems that the Librarian, or whoever is running this forum, is doing a good job of keeping just enough relatively reasonable apostates/opposers posting here to raise just enough "controversy" to stop the discussions from becoming not discussions, but infantile naive statements akin to unicorns eating rainbows and pooping butterflies, and at the same time not allowing this forum to be overun by apostates/opposers (which would happen very quickly, as has on many forums) turning it into a mere cesspool of cynicism, negativity and unreasonable arguments, where any reasonable person would not be able to get a word in edgeways. Well done The Librarian.

Neoclassicism (from Greek νέος nèos, "new" and Latin classicus, "of the highest rank") is the name given to Western movements in the decorative and visual arts, literature, theatre, music, and architecture that draw inspiration from the "classical" art and culture of Ancient Greece or Ancient Rome.
..... I saw some of the other massive art works by the workshop of Bellini in Milan - they are massive (fill a very large wall of a very large art gallery), totally imposing and wonderful!  One I specifically remember was a picture of the Sanhedrin in all their imposing,  royal garb looking as arrogant as only the wealthy and powerful can look sitting in neo-classical background 
I am not an expert on painting but the Renaissance brought a revival of classism.
 
The title is of interest to me because "limbo" is a catholic term which refers to the place where one goes between heaven and hell.  Family members in the middle ages used to pay a lot of money to the church to get family members out of limbo.  Muslims have something almost similar because they believe one is alive in the grave and suffer there (especially women).
Jesus actually went to Tartarus after his resurrection  - one brief sentence in the Bible - which  indicates that the demons in Tartarus now had evidence of the resurrection of Jesus and their eminent destruction because the ransom was successfully paid.
 

Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses > M. Stephen Lett
Talks by Stephen Lett

Started as pioneer on December, 1966.
From 1967 to 1971 served in Brooklyn Bethel. In October 1971 married to Susan and entered in the special pioneer service.
From 1979 to 1998 served as circuit overseer.
In April 1998 was called to Brooklyn Bethel.
On October 2, 1999 was appointed to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. Source: w2000 1/1 29.
Fun Fact: He sports a "pinkie ring" just like Prince

 

 
Not sure if Watchtower Attorney Adam Lett is his son or not. If you know please leave a comment below
 

But he was pierced+ for our transgression;+
He was crushed for our errors.+
He bore the punishment for our peace,+
And because of his wounds we were healed.+
 -  Isaiah 53:5. (700 years earlier)
 
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24 Then Jesus said to his disciples: “If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake* and keep following me.+ 25 For whoever wants to save his life* will lose it, but whoever loses his life* for my sake will find it.+ 26 Really, what good will it do a man if he gains the whole world but loses his life?*+ Or what will a man give in exchange for his life?*+ 27 For the Son of man is to come in the glory of his Father with his angels, and then he will repay each one according to his behavior.+ 28 Truly I say to you that there are some of those standing here who will not taste death at all until first they see the Son of man coming in his Kingdom.”+
 
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But he was pierced+ for our transgression;+
He was crushed for our errors.+
He bore the punishment for our peace,+
And because of his wounds we were healed.+
 -  Isaiah 53:5. (700 years earlier)
 
Learn more about Jesus Christ
 

There are other versions out there... not quite as smooth as this one however.
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and even
 
The Bible (TV series) - Satan tempts Jesus in the wilderness (Matthew 4) extrait from episode 6.
 

But he was pierced+ for our transgression;+
He was crushed for our errors.+
He bore the punishment for our peace,+
And because of his wounds we were healed.+
 -  Isaiah 53:5. (700 years earlier)
 
Learn more about Jesus Christ
 

BROTHERS  OF  RUSSIA  SENT  US  A  PHOTO  AND  A  MESSAGE  ;-))
"We live in Russia, we are happy that we live in a very interesting & great moment ! Thank  you  brothers,  who live all over the world,  for your support ❤
(Sent Vladimir)
May  JEHOVAH  be  near  you  ALL,  dear  Brothers  and  Sisters ❤

As a follow-up to their Memorial observance, Witnesses will invite the public to a 30-minute Bible-based presentation on the subject :
“How to Cultivate Peace in an Angry World.”
This will be the featured topic of their public meeting on the weekend of April 15 and 16, 2017, at most Kingdom Halls of Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide.

https://www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/world/jehovahs-witnesses-public-events-2017/#?insight[search_id]=f9673ed8-bd24-4e77-b517-c06749ce97d5&insight[search_result_index]=0

The Wikipedia article on Easter Egg gives a picture of one these styled eggs and says it is from a Greek Orthodox Church https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_egg:

  Red coloured Easter egg with Christian cross, from the Saint Kosmas Aitolos Greek Orthodox Monastery  
I suspect the same. The writer probably came across the same idea that is also presented in the Wikipedia article:
The Christian custom of Easter eggs, specifically, started among the early Christians of Mesopotamia, who stained eggs with red colouring "in memory of the blood of Christ, shed at His crucifixion".[6][7][8][9]
That idea isn't a perfect fit for the rest of the article about paganism, therefore, it probably seemed useful to replace "the blood of Christ" with "blood of sacrificed infants." You have to admit that the latter has a more pagan ring to it.
By the way, the references linked as 6,7,8,9 in the quote above point to some overlapping evidence, most of which sounded very weak to me.

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And the Memorial of His Death
 
 

The person here singing is Joan Manuel Serrat. Please search on You Tube for joan manuel serrat cantico 138. Brothers from Spain cleared the contention that this person has the same timbre into his voice as Julio Iglesias, but Julio Iglesias don't sing this song 138 here.
This is the reason why people believe it's Julio Iglesias. Listen to for instance:
Any one has the proofs it isn't so, come in ....
Greetings

I can only get as far as this source - a self-published work: J. R. Terrier - History of Easter - Hidden, Secret Origins and Mystery Religion. I don't know exactly what s/he says from the preview or where the author gets the idea that coloring eggs originated from the practice of sacrificing infants and using their blood, but I strongly suspect that its completely made up. 
If anyone else can track down this claim further to 'ground zero,' then please post it. I'm curious.
Nothing. Easter eggs and bunnies are now the secularized part of the spring celebration. 
"Should we celebrate Easter or allow our children to go on Easter egg hunts? This is a question both parents and church leaders struggle with. Ultimately, it comes down to a matter of conscience (Romans 14:5). There is nothing essentially evil about painting and hiding eggs and having children search for them. What is important is our focus. If our focus is on Christ, our children can be taught to understand that the eggs are just a fun game. Children should know the true meaning of the day, and parents and the church have a responsibility to teach the true meaning. In the end, participation in Easter egg hunts and other secular traditions must be left up to the discretion of parents." - Source
And remember this general principle:
"A main concern is, not what the practice meant hundreds of years ago, but how it is viewed today in your area. Understandably, opinions may vary from one place to another. Hence, it is wise to avoid turning such matters into big issues." - g03 9/22 p. 24.

EASTER—FERTILITY WORSHIP IN DISGUISE
Promoted as a celebration of Christ’s resurrection, Easter is actually rooted in false religion. The name Easter itself has been linked to Eostre, or Ostara, the Anglo-Saxon goddess of the dawn and of spring. And how did eggs and rabbits come to be associated with Easter? Eggs “have been prominent as symbols of new life and resurrection,” says the Encyclopædia Britannica, while the hare and the rabbit have long served as symbols of fertility. Easter, therefore, is really a fertility rite thinly disguised as a celebration of Christ’s resurrection.*
Would Jehovah condone the use of a filthy fertility rite to commemorate his Son’s resurrection? Never! (2 Corinthians 6:17, 18) In fact, the Scriptures neither command nor authorize the commemorating of Jesus’ resurrection in the first place. To do so in the name of Easter, therefore, is to be doubly disloyal.
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102008072
Yes, Easter is not a Christian Holiday as you see, what does the Christ have to do with colored eggs? I have a funny picture but maybe you'd wouldn't like it? It just shows us there is no Christ in Easter. 

@The Librarian The picture gives it away with being red and crosses on them? Have you read anywhere these are used in Greek Orthodox Churches?  ??

See also.... a simple previous question posed:
 

@JW Insider I was away today Assembly time. Some I had already erased. I got this 3 years ago read it and deleted some. I will only use quotations from links for information. I think this person, woman was also a different tongue. Some words didn't make sense. I should have just used the picture and quote from wol.jw.org my mistake, sorry I read and reread, never saw what you saw. Thank you ???

Trump bombed Syria and made a lot of people mad. How can you not make them mad when you’ve killed 15 people? He broke a lot of things, too, but he can always say: “Look, Vlad, what’s the big deal? I’m a billionaire. You’re a billionaire. But them some new planes out of your own pocket if it takes that to placate them.” The people are a different matter. But even that is mitigated by pointing out they were all (or almost all?) military people who have signed on to the program.
For some inexplicable reason, I feel I have a read on this guy. I long have. It surprises me to think so few do. Even that is hard to know for sure because in this scenario, as in all others, liars spin the facts this way and that for their own purposes. In the case of a President, the motivation to do so is high.
At any rate, his actions clearly turn a lot of memes on their head. Clearly, he is not a pawn of Putin, as U.S. media has insisted for months. Clearly, he does not hate Muslims, as they have also insisted. It is now spun that he is impulsive and acts from the heart. “Trump said he would not do Syria! No way! No how! Then he saw a picture,” I have heard.
Or perhaps it is all spin. The trouble with conspiracy theories is that, once a few of them prove to be true, you readily swallow the next one coming down the pipe. There are cabals hanging about and they do try to skew things. But these cabals have hated Trump from the beginning. I think it is because he is not one of them and they don’t feel able to control him. We all know that Trump is not a Republican. He took over the Republican party. It might just as well have been the Democratic party. He simply read the tea leaves and saw that, at the moment, the Republican party was easier to commandeer. When he says ‘drain the swamp,’ he is not referring to one party or the other.
Anyone in small business, which I have been, can easily conceive of a businessman who loves his country but thinks the slippery boobs have ruined it, saying: “There!  I built my business. Now let’s see if I can fix the country.” A BIG businessman can easily miss this because he is primarily worried about Trump’s effect on the stock market, but a small businessman doesn’t care, or at least it is not his chief concern. If you’re experience is something else entirely, you heard the ‘grab them by the you-know-what’ and concluded life around him was a 24/7 brothel. I always thought It was nonsense. I always agreed with him that it was ‘locker room’ talk. I did this because I have been in the locker room and they do not read Plato in there.
He can spin this as I believe it really is. There are some things so barbarous that you cannot go there. Chemical weapons are among them. They are not good, especially when you have just had photos of the victims thrust under your nose.  He did what he did impulsively, from the heart. Yet even that cannot be determined with certainty. Insiders said he leaned on and took options from the military people. He didn’t hastily tell them what to do. He let them tell him, and chose from the choices they presented.
It is easy to conclude that they, however are swayed by the business model. When BigDefence gets too big, it must keep the profits rolling in. If it does not, the stockholders will bolt for some noble competitor – say, BigPharma. So if the world threatens to get too peaceful, they must stir up the pot. It is the United States, not Russia, that is bombing many countries. It will never be fixed because money drives everything here. You solve nothing by taking out a bad guy. Another bad guy simply sees a fine new career opening. It is the play that must be changed, not the actors in the play, who simply follow the script given them – sometimes begrudginly, sometimes with gusto. Human reformers can change the actors, but they cannot change the play. Only God’s Kingdom will do that.
In a world where barbarities are commonplace, it is tough to know where to draw the line. “What’s one more slaughter in the greater scheme of things?” is easy to say. Is it preferred for Trump to say: “Ah, well – shit happens?” Obama drew a line in the sand and it was instantly crossed. Perhaps leaders should keep their mouths shut over such things, and not make grandiose remarks about slaughter being ‘unacceptable’ (duh) and how people will ‘be held accountable.’ They won’t be, usually. Why carry on as though they will, except so as not to look like a helpless fool. And don’t carry on about people being ‘cowardly.’ They may be despicable, but surely it is not cowardly to be willing to die for a cause – any cause, from Boy Scout to Barbarians-R-Us. Also, don’t whine on about how the terrorists are trying to change our way of life, but we won’t let that happen. If anything, they want us to maintain our way of life and thereby be easier targets to kill. And even the terrorists will say: “Look, they elect their leaders over there, and the leaders come over and kill all our loved ones. That makes them not so innocent after all.” Victims of massive suffering and evil, many turn into unreasoning animals that must be taken out, like putting down a vicious dog. But that doesn’t mean you must judge them for it; many in the West become unreasoning animals with far less provocation.
A man that recoils at the use of chemical weapons and reacts immediately can be spun as not such a bad thing. He can say to Putin: “Sorry. I lost it. but nothing has changed in the big picture. Let’s work together when it is expedient to fix the world.”
It’s not my cause. I am a neutral Jehovah’s Witness, interested in these things only as ‘current history.’ All human governments will drop the ball; the only question to be answered is upon which toe will if fall. The Kingdom arrangement, as detailed in the Bible, is the only permanent answer. So if you have read these words and said: “Harley is an idiot! I’ll write to tell him so,” please don’t. I will respond by saying: “you forgot to mention that I am also a moron.”

I appreciated the fact that you wrote this. You say you are neutral and I believe you. And I would agree that being neutral should not mean that neutral people should be ignorant of current history. Unfortunately, many people in the United States at least appear to be ignorant of current history, but are not neutral in most senses of the word. Still, relatively few vote, and even those who do mostly believe that they have no say or power in any form of national government. This makes them feel "neutered" but not neutral. The partisan swings that happen every 4 to 8 years since Roosevelt have at least given most of the US population a sense that "it's their turn" and they will be at least partly represented (to the extent that their views have been incorporated into the talking points of either one of the two major parties).
But this election, just like many in Europe and elsewhere, was a call to populism by the winning politicians. Populism is full of anger, tribalism (nativism), progressivism, and hopefulness. It's not easy to define. Bernie Sanders was the big winner of the progressive and angry hopefulness, and not really a Democrat. Donald Trump was the big winner of the nativist and angry hopefulness, and not really a Republican. Both groups hoped for an economic fix. Both groups knew deep-down, that such a fix would include trillions less spent on wars, and trillions more spent on the homeland (infrastructure, for example).
There were a lot of things that people from all sides of the "populist hopes" could have agreed on from either populist candidate (Trump or Sanders). But the swamp remains because it is funded by corporate greed, mostly military contractors who want to sell weapons. 
It takes a lot of energy and will to drain such a swamp, and in the end, of course, it appears that the swamp has already drained Trump.

I had added also the audio files ...