The Librarian

A quote from the past.
Did the Organization of Jehovah's Witnesses Ever Say That Armageddon Was Definitely Going to Come In 1975?




It is an absolute lie to claim that the Witnesses said that Armageddon would come in 1975. Here is an article from *1974* that I carry around with me which shows what mature Witnesses knew and were saying:

"The publications of Jehovah's Witnesses have shown that, according to Bible chronology, it appears that 6,000 years of man's existence will be completed in the mid-1970's. But these publications HAVE NEVER SAID THAT THE WORLD'S END WOULD COME THEN. Nevertheless, there has been considerable individual speculation on the matter. So the assembly presentation "Why We Have Not Been Told ‘That Day and Hour'" was very timely. It emphasized that we do not know the exact time when God will bring the end."--w74 10/15 p. 635

You will notice that this appeared in the Watchtower at the end of 1974 and it was referring to what all Witnesses heard at their conventions that summer. So the facts are that anyone who was saying that Armageddon was definitely going to come by 1975 just was not listening carefully. They were doing what critics still do; rip statements out of context and selectively choose only what they want out of the literature.

I was baptized in 1966 so I was there in 1975 and it had absolutely no effect on me nor anyone in my very large family. The reason that it had no effect on 99.9% of Witnesses is because most were listening to what was really being said and not speculating. They were NOT saying that the end would come in 1975.

The truth is that from the start of discussions on 1975, JWs were told not to speculate on what may or may not happen. For some, it was a real test as to why they were JWs. Was it because of a date to save their necks or were they JWs because they loved and appreciated the Truth and Jehovah?


The year 1975 can be calculated from the prophecies in Daniel and confirmed by the events foretold by Christ. This interpretation is in complete agreement with standard rules of exegesis. So the Witnesses’ teaching on 1975 and our being in the “end times” of wicked human society is completely scriptural.

What was said by Witnesses in the ‘60's and ‘70's is still true: the end is still near and we should live our lives performing “holy acts of conduct and deeds of godly devotion, awaiting and keeping close in mind the presence of the day of Jehovah” (2Pet.3:11,12).

From 1914 onward, ALL the facets of the "sign" denoting the “end times” have escalated to an unprecedented degree worldwide (Mt.24:3ff). No other time in history has seen all these things come on one generation in such overwhelming measure. Combining this with the Bible chronology’s pointing to 1975 being about 6,000 years since man’s creation proves beyond any doubt that the world has entered its time of the end!


 There seems to be a disconnect between what people actually thought about 1975 in the eyes of the world....

@Cheepcheep And humans are much higher still when it comes to "storage", "retrieval" and overall teraflops of "computing" power..... but that gap is closing fast.
In the end a human receives optical input from the eyes and the brains "sees", interprets and records our surroundings. At some point we may create something that comes very close to a "neural network" that might fool the average person into questioning "consciousness".

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Declaring Jehovah’s Praise in the Islands — A Look Into Nicobarese Translation....
A  wonderful  video  of  these  little  Nicobaren  islands,  the  people  are  SO  grateful  for  the  TRUTH !
They  are  helping  and  its  nice  growing  since  some  years  

Whatever happened to "Innocent until PROVEN guilty" concept in the USA?
Why even have courts if mob rule is the new norm?
His career and life is over because someone decided an accusation was "credible". Who is this person? Can't his corporation be held liable to a contract breakage now?
 

@runtifus A couple who chooses a civil ceremony should also not be made to feel bad in any way. 
Elders are specifically told NOT to offer their personal opinions.  This would also qualify as an area of personal choice. 
The marriage of @James Thomas Rook Jr. Is as valid as someone who has 400 in attendance at an Assembly Hall or Branch. 
I once performed a wedding at a Branch office with about 300 attending. A very elegant wedding and reception.  
I first had to become licensed by the Staten to perform the wedding in the first place. 

À New York, les Témoins de Jéhovah ont vendu une autre de leurs propriétés majeures de Brooklyn.
la source

@David Normand although if I were to think along those lines. ...
Why even have a public ceremony anyways? It does nothing for their future married life. Potentially even costs $. 
Just run down to the Justice of the Peace at the Courthouse and get married. :-)

Thanksgiving Fast
For the citizens in the newly independent United States, “thanksgiving” had a different meaning than we know today. Instead of giving thanks through a large meal, Americans gave thanks by fasting.  
During the American Revolution, the Continental Congress issued several proclamations suggesting national days of fasting and thanksgiving like this one for May 20, 1779. Calls for national days of prayer and thanksgiving were made with the hope that “Divine Providence” would favor the American cause. They also served a patriotic purpose as they gathered people together in houses of worship—across denominations and the country—to pray for American victory in the war. 
US National Archives

@David Normand although if I were to think along those lines. ...
Why even have a public ceremony anyways? It does nothing for their future married life. Potentially even costs $. 
Just run down to the Justice of the Peace at the Courthouse and get married. :-)

@Queen Esther I was always taught that our Theocratic culture supercedes any nationalistic or ethnic culture and traditions. This too I have seen change over time.
Notice that Christians are called "OUT of every nation, tribe " etc. to go up to the mountain of Jehovah. 
"Get OUT of her my people" refers to leaving behind the traditions of the world.
"Quit being fashioned" after the world.
I see a gradual assimilation and relaxation going on that disturbs me.
Don't think large crowds cannot transgress simultaneously. The entire nation did it in front of a smoking literal mountain of Jehovah. 

The raising of the cell phones reminds me of the lighters people used to raise during rock concerts here in the USA.

This would have been unthinkable back in Fred Franz's day...... he would have quoted Moses when coming down from the mountain to hear a different type of music.....

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2017 Jakarta, Indonésia.
40.000 in attendance
2000 foreign delegates from:  Russia, USA, Japon, Philippines, Népal, Thaïland, Australa et Timor
515 baptized
Source

This would have been unthinkable back in Fred Franz's day...... he would have quoted Moses when coming down from the mountain to hear a different type of music.....

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2017 Jakarta, Indonésia.
40.000 in attendance
2000 foreign delegates from:  Russia, USA, Japon, Philippines, Népal, Thaïland, Australa et Timor
515 baptized
Source

This would have been unthinkable back in Fred Franz's day...... he would have quoted Moses when coming down from the mountain to hear a different type of music.....

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2017 Jakarta, Indonésia.
40.000 in attendance
2000 foreign delegates from:  Russia, USA, Japon, Philippines, Népal, Thaïland, Australa et Timor
515 baptized
Source

This is pretty cool !   What do you think ?  -  CATS  WOULD  LOVE  IT  &  BIRDS  TOO
Also  a  wonderful  place  for  on & off  a  little  gift,  hanging  at  a  perch / branch... ?

What  do  you  think  of  this  cool  rustic  table ?  Of  sure  for  100 years...

WHAT  A  NICE  RELAXING  PLACE....  A  glass  of  wine,  a  candle,  a  book  or  a  talk  with  a  friend !  On  &  off  a  nap

WOW....  thats  really  a  COOL  BBQ - idea !!
Everyone  can  barbecue  for  itself...  haha  -  GREAT  IDEA
( step  by  step  more  interesting  WOOD - IDEA'S....   latest  for  our  NW - GARDEN !! )   YOU  LIKE  IT ?

A l'assemblée régionale 2017 à Jakarta, en Indonésie.
40.000 Assistants.
2000 délégués étrangers de Russie, États-Unis, Japon, Philippines, Népal, Thaïlande, Australie et Timor
515 baptisés.
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@Matthew9969 Yes. Claims should be backed up or at least a statement saying that it is their personal opinion.

Just got back home. Anything happen while I was out?

@Anna I like how you think. Thanks for the summary.
Post a copy of what you send 

@Gone Fishing Yes. You attempted to view the page or comment from our former member Allen Smith who I banned for rudeness. 

@Gone Fishing Yes. You attempted to view the page or comment from our former member Allen Smith who I banned for rudeness.