@TrueTomHarley They do seem relentless don't they?Â
I also notice they never seem to publish what they actually believe as an alternative. Probably because they don't actually have a set of belief systems in place yet for themselves..
Many modern JW's haven't experienced other well-read biblically minded people actually question their beliefs as we used to 40+ years ago. Most of them shy away because they aren't "always ready to make a defense" or as eloquent with words as you are Tom.Â
I'm very positive that @JW Insider personally remembers being confronted many times with John 1:1a and a host of trinitarian discussions at the doorstep in decades past that are more rare now.
@admin I love how you made the videos auto-play... but I think your links to other topics somehow got messed up. Could you look at that?
Whenever we enjoy a roasted turkey this time of year, we cook it with a bookbag under its wing so that there should be no misunderstanding.
WHOA! @Admin has been busy with software innovations! Related topics now appear in the sidebar. (isn't this new?) It is "Similar Content' My own favorite holiday is one of them, and posts I started about Ground Hog Day.
Don't nobody say nothin bad about Ground Hog day here, or I'll send the filthy rat down your chimney like Santa and he will leave lice everywhere.
A Brother was murdered of a Kingdom Hall in England by a mentally handicapped personÂ
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A group of alleged sexual abuse survivors from across the country have filed a $66-million class action lawsuit against the Jehovah’s Witness, CityNews has learned.
The victims are seeking $20 million for damages from sexual and mental abuse by elders, $20 million for failing to protect children, and another $20 million for breach of duty of care.
links:
http://www.680news.com/2017/10/02/66m-class-action-sex-abuse-suit-filed-jehovahs-witnesses/
http://mcstclassactions.com/
Welcome at JW Special Convention Indonesia 2017, day two. 18/11/17. Singing Kingdom Songs in Java Language. #specialconvention #specialconvention2017
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400 km/h und 1.000 Kilometer Reichweite: Premiere für den neuen Tesla Roadster
von Mads Danner
Elon Musk wird die Modellpalette von Tesla weiter vergrößern. Mit der Vorstellung des neuen Tesla Roadster und desTesla Semi-Truck will der Hersteller gleich in zwei hart umkämpften Klassen punkten. Die Neuauflage des Roadster könnte selbst gestandene Supersportwagen in den Schatten stellen.
Macht Lust auf den Elektrosportwagen: 2020 soll der neue Tesla Roadster auf den Markt kommen.
Elon Musk will wieder einmal Großes schaffen: Auf einer Präsentation in Kalifornien ließ der Tesla-Chef eine echte Bombe platzen und rollte die Neuauflage des Tesla Roadster auf die Bühne. Die Leistungsdaten des Sportwagens sind beinahe unwirklich – und doch soll das Elektroauto 2020 auf den Markt kommen. Außerdem hatte der Multimilliardär noch eine zweite Überraschung parat.
Ist das wirklich zu machen? Kann Elon Musk dieses Versprechen schon bis 2020 einlösen? Fragen, die unweigerlich nach der gestrigen Weltpremiere des neuen Tesla Roadster im Raum stehen. Dass es schon bald einen Nachfolger des Elektrosportlers geben würde, war den meisten klar. Doch mit derartigen Leistungsdaten hat bislang niemand gerechnet: Der völlig neu entwickelte Roadster protzt nicht nur mit einer Reichweite von 1.000 Kilometern (620 Meilen). Als erstes Serien-Elektroauto überhaupt soll der 2+2-Sitzer auf eine Höchstgeschwindigkeit von 400 km/h beschleunigt werden können.
Tesla Roadster als ultimativer Elektrosportler
Und auch wenn die Zahlen definitiv beeindruckend und die Begeisterung groß ist: Die ganze Wahrheit ist das natürlich nicht. Denn Musk fügte unter anderem hinzu, dass die riesige Reichweite nur "bei Highway-Geschwindigkeit" möglich sei. In US-Maßstäben bedeutet das rund 110 km/h. Wer also auf deutschen Autobahnen immer am Limit unterwegs ist, wird die 1.000 Kilometer weit verfehlen.
Auch die Höchstgeschwindigkeit von 400 km/h soll nur im weiterentwickelten Ludicrous-Mode verfügbar sein und dann auch nur für kurze Zeit. Angesichts der wenigen Möglichkeiten, 400 km/h im Alltag auszufahren, dürfte das allerdings für weniger Probleme sorgen. Für maximalen Fahrspaß bei jedem Wetter ist der neue Roadster wieder mit einem abnehmbaren Targa-Dach ausgerüstet.
Setzt der neue Roadster Maßstäbe für E-Sportwagen?
Trotz der Einschränkungen sind die von Elon Musk genannten Werte beeindruckend. Eine reale Reichweite von 600 bis 700 Kilometern kann als Meilenstein bezeichnet werden – weiter kommt auch kein Sportwagen mit V8-Motor im Heck. Erreicht werden soll dieser Wert mit einem neuen Akku, der bis zu 200 Kilowattstunden fassen soll – doppelt so viel Kapazität wie beim derzeit größten Tesla-Akku im Model S P100 D. Über die Preise des neuen Tesla Roadster ist noch nichts bekannt. Da allerdings bereits die P100-D-Modelle von Model S und X über 150.000 Euro kosten, dürfte der Roadster kaum günstiger werden.
Tesla Semi-Truck soll schon 2019 antreten
Neben dem Sportwagen rollte der Tesla-Boss gleich noch das Kontrastprogramm auf die Bühne: Der neue Tesla Semi-Truck wird der erste Elektro-Lkw des Unternehmens und zugleich auch das erste Nutzfahrzeug der Kalifornier. Mit vier Elektromotoren und einer angepeilten Reichweite von 800 Kilometern setzt auch dieses Fahrzeug Maßstäbe. Der Akku soll darüber hinaus in 30 Minuten auf die halbe Kapazität geladen werden können. Preise nennt Musk auch hier noch nicht, betont aber, dass Diesel-Lkw im Betrieb pro Kilometer 20 Prozent teurer seien.
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1978 Hayden Covington Interviewed By Jerry Murray Interview with Hayden C. Covington, former Watchtower Attorney on November 19, 1978. Covington represented Jehovah's Witnesses in several Supreme Court cases dealing with freedom of religion and freedom of press in the 1940s. He was also Vice President of the Watchtower Society from 1942 to 1945. Covington died two days after giving this interview.
"They Oppose Freedom of Worship," by Hayden C. Covington. Talk given at the 1953 International Assembly of Jehovah's Witnesses"They Oppose Freedom of Worship," by Hayden C. Covington. Audio lecture given at the 1953 International Assembly of Jehovah's Witnesses. At the time, Covington was Chief Legal Counsel of Jehovah's Witnesses and had served as Vice President of the Watchtower Society in the 1940s. Covington helped secure several key legal victories for Jehovah's Witnesses before the Supreme Court of the United States in the 1940s.
Read a copy of Covington's employment resume written after he left Bethel and his death certificate
1977-78_Hayden_Covingtons_Resume_and_Death_Certificate.pdf
When I was in Bethel, I received a copy of Covington's resume and death certificate from a JW in California by the name of Jeannie Sears. She had been Covington's friend and secretary of sorts for a few years before he died and I think they both lived in the same apartment complex. Jean's deceased husband had been a former Bethelite who had been Covington's friend when they both were in Bethel in the 1950s and it's through him that Jeannie met Hayden.
Interestingly, Covington wrote his memoir shortly before he died and shared it with Jeannie. She told me she was horrified when she read what he said about the organization and talked him out of publishing it. Later she watched him burn it in the yard. Jeannie never told me what was in that memoir and probably has died taking Covington's secrets with her to the grave.
Hayden Covington (1911 - 1978)
Hayden Covington was born in Hopkins County, Texas, in 1911. Around the time that he was studying for his law degree, he became involved with the Jehovah’s Witnesses. He defended some Witnesses in the San Antonio area and was eventually invited by the Witness leadership to New York. He joined the organization’s legal counsel in 1939 and served until 1963. In that time as the Witnesses’ attorney, Covington is said to have presented 111 petitions and appeals to the Supreme Court, and he won well above 80% of the 44 cases he brought before the Court. The cases dealt with issues ranging from compulsory flag-salute statutes, to street preaching, to door-to-door literature distribution. Later in his career Covington assisted prize-fighter Muhammad Ali in obtaining a draft exemption as a Muslim minister. Covington’s role as lawyer for the Jehovah’s Witnesses is recounted in Shawn Francis Peters’ Judging Jehovah's Witnesses: Religious Persecution and the Dawn of the Rights Revolution (2002).
“Determined to Keep Close to the Lord”
It was Brother Rutherford’s heartfelt wish that Jehovah’s Witnesses declare the good news without letup. So in mid-December 1941, several weeks before his death, he called together four directors of the two principal legal corporations used by Jehovah’s Witnesses and suggested that as soon after his death as possible, all the members of the two boards be called in joint session and a president and a vice president be elected.
On the afternoon of January 13, 1942, just five days after Rutherford’s death, all the board members of the two corporations met jointly at Brooklyn Bethel. Several days earlier, the Society’s vice president, 36-year-old Nathan H. Knorr, had suggested that they earnestly seek divine wisdom by prayer and meditation. The board members recognized that while the brother elected president would administer the legal affairs of the Watch Tower Society, he would also serve as a principal overseer of the organization. Who had the needed spiritual qualifications for this weighty responsibility in caring for Jehovah’s work? The joint meeting was opened with prayer, and after careful consideration, Brother Knorr was unanimously elected president of the two corporations and 30-year-old Hayden C. Covington, the Society’s lawyer, vice president.
Later that day, W. E. Van Amburgh, the Society’s secretary-treasurer, announced to the Bethel family the results of the election. R. E. Abrahamson, who was present on that occasion, recalled that Van Amburgh said: ‘I can remember when C. T. Russell died and was replaced by J. F. Rutherford. The Lord continued to direct and prosper His work. Now, I fully expect the work to move ahead with Nathan H. Knorr as president, because this is the Lord’s work, not man’s.’
How did the Bethel family members in Brooklyn feel about the results of the election? A touching letter from them dated January 14, 1942, the day after the election, answers: “His [Rutherford’s] change shall not slow us up in the performance of the task the Lord has assigned to us. We are determined to keep close to the Lord and to one another, firmly pushing the battle to the gate, fighting shoulder to shoulder. . . . Our intimate association with Brother Knorr for approximately twenty years . . . enables us to appreciate the Lord’s direction in the choice of Brother Knorr as president and thereby the loving watch-care of the Lord over His people.” Letters and cablegrams of support soon poured into headquarters from around the world.
There was no feeling of uncertainty as to what to do. A special article was prepared for the February 1, 1942, Watchtower, the very same issue that announced the death of J. F. Rutherford. “The final gathering by the Lord is on,” it declared. “Let nothing for one instant interrupt the onward push of his covenant-people in His service. . . . Now to hold fast our integrity toward the Almighty God is the ALL-IMPORTANT thing.” Jehovah’s Witnesses were urged to continue declaring the good news with zeal.
But ‘holding fast their integrity’ was a real challenge in the early 1940’s. The world was still at war. Wartime restrictions in many parts of the earth made it difficult for Jehovah’s Witnesses to preach. Arrests and mob action against the Witnesses continued unabated. Hayden Covington, as the Society’s legal counsel, directed the legal fight, sometimes from his office at Brooklyn headquarters and sometimes from trains as he traveled caring for legal cases. Working with local lawyers, such as Victor Schmidt, Grover Powell, and Victor Blackwell, Brother Covington fought hard to establish the constitutional rights of Jehovah’s Witnesses to preach from house to house and to distribute Bible literature without restraint from local officials.
- Declaring the Good News Without Letup (1942-1975)
As the intensity of house-to-house witnessing increased, however, so did attempts to apply laws to abridge or prohibit it. Not all lands have legal provisions that make it possible to secure freedoms for minorities in the face of official opposition. But Jehovah’s Witnesses knew that the U.S. Constitution guaranteed freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom of the press. So, when judges construed local ordinances in such a way as to hinder the preaching of God’s Word, the Witnesses appealed their cases to the higher courts.
In reviewing what took place, Hayden C. Covington, who had a prominent role in legal matters for the Watch Tower Society, later explained: “Had the thousands of convictions entered by the magistrates, police courts and other lower courts not been appealed, a mountain of precedent would have piled up as a giant obstacle in the field of worship. By appealing we have prevented the erection of such obstacle. Our way of worship has been written into the law of the land of the United States and other countries because of our persistence in appealing from adverse decisions.” In the United States, scores of cases went all the way to the Supreme Court.
Strengthening the Guarantees of Freedom
One of the first cases involving the ministry of Jehovah’s Witnesses to reach the Supreme Court of the United States originated in Georgia and was argued before the Court on February 4, 1938. Alma Lovell had been convicted in the recorder’s court of Griffin, Georgia, of violating an ordinance that prohibited the distribution of literature of any kind without a permit from the city manager. Among other things, Sister Lovell had offered people the magazine The Golden Age. On March 28, 1938, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that the ordinance was invalid because it subjected freedom of the press to license and censorship.
The following year J. F. Rutherford, as attorney for the petitioner, presented arguments to the Supreme Court in the case of Clara Schneider v. State of New Jersey. This was followed, in 1940, by Cantwell v. State of Connecticut, for which J. F. Rutherford drafted the legal brief and Hayden Covington presented oral argument before the Court. The positive outcome of these cases buttressed the constitutional guarantees of freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom of the press. But there were setbacks.
- ‘Defending and Legally Establishing the Good News’, WTB&TS How the Governing Body Differs From a Legal Corporation
ANNUAL meetings of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania have been held since January of 1885. When the ingathering of anointed Christians was underway in the late 19th century, the directors and officers of this corporation had the heavenly hope. In fact, this has almost always been the case.
There was one exception. In 1940, Hayden C. Covington—then the Society’s legal counsel and one of the “other sheep,” with the earthly hope—was elected a director of the Society. (John 10:16) He served as the Society’s vice president from 1942 to 1945. At that time, Brother Covington stepped aside as a director to comply with what then seemed to be Jehovah’s will—that all directors and officers of the Pennsylvania corporation be anointed Christians. Lyman A. Swingle replaced Hayden C. Covington on the board of directors, and Frederick W. Franz was elected vice president.
Why did Jehovah’s servants believe that all the directors and officers of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania should be anointed Christians? Because at the time, the board of directors and officers of the Pennsylvania corporation were closely identified with the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses, which has always been made up entirely of spirit-anointed men.
- Jan. 15, 2001 Watchtower, WTB&TS
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Don't ever disappear like that again! We were worried sick!
I was concerned that you had taken Amos 7:12, which we just covered at the meeting, to heart:
O visionary, go, run away to the land of wherever , earn your bread there, and there you may prophesy. But you must no longer prophesy [about] Bethel.”
I just got off the plane (from Vancouver) and saw the above when my wi-fi came back on.
It's a fake story, of course. You can still see the picture as it was used in a newspaper article about 2 years ago.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/1/donald-trump-touts-lifestyle-without-alcohol-drugs/
The earliest appearance of the picture that I found is from December 1, 2015, when Trump was campaigning in New Hampshire. Someone might have thought that the girl looked Vietnamese, so the picture was used again to create "news" about his visit to Hanoi.
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