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    The Librarian got a reaction from Carol Ann Torres in Jehovah's Witnesses are already helping the Brothers and Sisters affected by the Hurricane Harvey in Texas - (John 13:35) ⛑???????   
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    The Librarian reacted to Bible Speaks in AZA KIVY! That's Don't Give Up! in Malagasy. Day 1 of the Madagascar Special Convention. 43,667 attended and expecting over 50,000+ on Sunday! ?????   
    Lovely Video – Enjoy! 
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    AZA KIVY! That's Don't Give Up! in Malagasy. Day 1 of the Madagascar Special Convention. 43,667 attended and expecting over 50,000+ on Sunday! Wow! -
    @zeal_samuel Thank you! 
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    Tap on Video Link ___
     
     
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    The Librarian reacted to Saint-Jacques Pierre Cheelton in A.O (T-Pin is his nickname)   
    His name is A.O (T-Pin is his nickname),he was appointed as Elder August 11,2013 and canceled in the list of Elders March14,2017 because he is singing.He is a regular pioneer since 2007 until now in Haiti.This is his preview video announcing his upcoming video : We can go!  Stay tuned for the full complete video. https://m.facebook.com/PisiWann/
     
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    The Librarian reacted to Bible Speaks in Wow! Look at this JW Phonograph! Your History here! Enjoy! ????   
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B59zIIpvme1tYjRFLUtxeXB0Qnc/view?pli=1
    Wow!  Look at this JW Phonograph! Your History here! Enjoy! ????






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    The Librarian got a reaction from Taqvaylit A Menguelet in List of Celebrity Jehovah's Witnesses   
    español / Italiano
    Part of a series on: Jehovah's Witnesses >
    Baptized JW's
    Serena Williams- tennis player ; 8 Grand Slam champion. Her "baptized" status is disputed since she has never been disfellowshipped for having a baby out of wedlock with Drake or her publicly nude photographs. Let's just say she is now the most famous celebrity who CLAIMS to be one.

    Venus Williams - tennis player ; 5 time Grand Slam champion
    Damon Wayans - TV and Film Comedy Star. Part of "The Wayans Brothers" TV show back in the 1990's. - Their father was a JW (someone mentioned even Anointed)
    Michael Jackson (deceased)

    Michael Jackson's Children and Mother Katherine Jackson

    Rebbie Jackson - Singer, daughter of Katherine Jackson


    Prince Rogers Nelson (deceased)

    Marques Houston - Singer and former member of the kid group "Immature" (and his manager)
     
    Coco Rocha - International Fashion Model

    Terrence Howard - actor; Ray, Hustle & Flow, etc. Children and brother are JWs. Studied when he was 17 years old. (not himself a JW)
    Bria Valente - Prince's Ex-GF back in 2007 - She has since remarried to another brother

    George Benson - Musician / singer (see also: George Benson and Friends - Sing Praises to Jehovah)

    "El General" - Panamanian singer

    Bobby Martin - Grammy winning producer. 
    Mateo - African Musician 
    Aoife Ní Thuairisg - Irish Television Presenter
    Tulsi Giri - Prime Minister of Nepal

    Bill Underwood - Reporter for the Phoenix Times Examiner

    Alexander P. Stewart - US Civil War Confederate General

    Allison Lozz - Mexican Actress (former). recently left novelas (soap operas) to be a more active in the ministry

    Maurizio Bianchi - Musician

    Ivana Brkic - Croatian Musician

    Angelo Palego - Leader of team searching for Noah's Ark

    Firpo Carr - Historian, author of Germany's Black Holocaust: 1890-1945; Wicked Words: Poisoned Minds - Racism in the Dictionary; founder: Scholar Technological Institute of Research, Inc. (STIR)

    Henry Carr - Olympian and NFL player (deceased)

    Herman Pizzanelli - Leading Uruguayan concert guitarist in the 1960s (convert to JWs)

    Willie Wise - NBA professional basketball player for Seattle Super Sonics and Denver Nuggets

    Dave Meyers - Professional basketball player (Los Angeles Lakers in 1970s)

    Mark McCumber - Professional golfer

    Dave Pear - NFL professional football player for Colts, Buccaneers, and Raiders (convert)

    Kid Gavilan - welterweight champion boxer; elected to boxing Hall of Fame in 1990 (convert to JWs)

    Jorge Påez "El Maromero" - Boxing World Champion 
    Pele Reid - Boxing Champion

    Shont'e Peoples - professional football player (Saskatchewan Roughriders); convert to JWs

    La Lupe - Cuban salsa singer (convert)

    Janis Gill - ex wife of country music superstar, Vince Gill, is one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Vince Gill is NOT a Witness. He is strongly and violently opposed.

    Fedor Chistyakov - Russian Singer

    Richard Cameron - Dutch Musician

    Valerie Campbell - Mother of Naomi Campbell

    Tom Edur - Former NHL ice hockey player

    Mrs.Ida Eisenhower - (Mother of President Dwight D Eisenhower)

    Leopold Engleitner - Buchenwald concentration camp survivor and centenarian
     
    Mickey Spillane - Novelist

    Larry Graham - Sly & the Family Stone

    Danny Granger - Indiana Pacers small forward; Professional Basketball Player
    Teresa Graves - Reputedly the first black woman to play the lead in a police movie, also a singer


    Gary Gygax - Co-creator of Dungeons & Dragons 


    Scott Johnson - Actor

    Phillip Landry - Musican

    Maher Shalal Hash Baz - Japanese musician, name comes from the Book of Isaiah

    Margaret Keane - "Big Eyes" artist who said converting "changed her life."

    Peter Knowles - Famous soccer player in England who quit his football career in 1970 aged 24 to join the Jehovah's Witnesses

    Brian Locking - Bass guitarist with The Shadows for eighteen months, but left to Jehovah's Witnesses activities.

    Hank Marvin - Lead guitarist for The Shadows


    Bohumil Müller - Czech survivor of the Mauthausen-Gusen concentration camp and underground religious leader under Communism.

    Viv Nicholson - famous London lottery winner in 1961. She then became a devout JW. The musical Spend, Spend, Spend was based on her story.

    Evelyn Ntoko (first wife of Nelson Mandela)

    Lieby Piliso - Nelson Mandela's younger sister

    Ken Richmond - The man who banged the gong in the Rank Organisation film logo from 1955 onward.

    Gevorg Petrosyanm -The Georgian-Armenian “Caruso,” who drives a taxi, but dreams of the stage

    Miu Sakamoto - Japanese Singer, a Daughter of Ryuichi Sakamoto and Akiko Yano

    Damo Suzuki (Converted in the 1970s, current membership status uncertain)

    Bobby Tambling - English footballer

    Phil Terry - member of the 60's R&B group The Intruders.

    David Thomas - Avant-garde rocker, "Jehovah's Kingdom come"[2][3]

    Jean Terrell - Replaced Diana Ross in the Supremes in 1970.

    Akira Toriyama - Japanese Mangaka(Cartoonist), Author of Dragon Ball(Manga)

    Yoshito Usui - Japanese Mangaka, Author of Crayon Shin-chan

    Reena Virk - Canadian child murder victim

    Lark Voorhies - actress, Saved By The Bell

    Lou Whitaker - Former MLB baseball player for the Detroit Tigers.

    Chet Lemon - played with the Detroit Tigers along with Lou Whitaker

    Akiko Yano - Japanese Singer, Former wife of Ryuichi Sakamoto

    Solveig Romero - Mexico and Switzerland, Actress and wife of Martin Campbell, the director of James Bond Casino Royale

    Chuck Winfield - Former Trumpet player for Blood, Sweat, and Tears.

    Rosalia Valdez - Former actress who left fame in Mexico to become a witness, daughter of famous Tin Tan Valdez.

    Carmina Villarroel - Filipino actress

    Patience Dlaminh - a weather forecast reporter in South Africa / Regional 'celebrity'

    Red Shea - Guitarist for Gordon Lightfoot (passed away in 2008)

    Tom Reynolds - He was one of the singers in the late 60's early 70's band 'Hamilton, Joe,Frank, & Reynolds.

    Toun Oni - Nigerian actress (featured in the TV drama 'fuji house of commotion') She was an active witness before her death a few months ago. In fact, she died of heart problems during the Lekki assembly hall construction work.

    Paul i.k Dairo (used to be one of Nigeria's top musicians); Last i heard of him, he is one of Jehovah witnesses.

    Wolf-Ekkehard Lonnig - a scientist from the Max Planck Institute for Plant Breeding Research in Germany

    Hayden Covington - leading attorney for the Jehovah's Witnesses, Watchtower Society; won multiple U.S. Supreme Court cases; represented Muhammad Ali in court [not sure if he left eventually or not?]

    Chappel Fisher - Country Music DJ in Florida, USA

    Michael Worilds - NFL Player

    Tony Garcia - Artist, DJ, Producer, Re-mixer, Arranger, Composer,Writer of Dance Music EDM, Funk Melody Freestyle Music Owner of High Power Records


    Honorable B. Dwight Goains - US Federal Judge

    Micaiah and Tabitha Bethune - Owners of the Fashion Industry "The Wild Life Reserve" out of New Orleans

    Alex Rance - Soccer Star

    Pavel Pavlov & Aleksandr Kryukov - Ukrainian YouTube Stars
    Minh Hung Godenzi - Miss Hong Kong 1984
    Danny Collision - NBA Player currently in California
    Clarion Chukwurah - Nollywood Actress
    Irina Bohr - Russian singer
    Alisson Euler de Freitas Castro - Brazilian Footballer
    Carlos Gonzaga - Brazilian Singer
    Andriy Mykolayovych Nesmachniy (Ukrainian: Андрій Миколайович Несмачний)
    PC-One - Star of Slam in Haiti
    Jacy Brean - Author 
    Mina Godenzi - Actress, Model and Miss Hong Kong
    Phillip Ingram - Musician
    Ramón Gómez Valdés de Castillo aka "Don Ramón" - Famous Mexican Actor
    Kenya Moore - not sure as to her current status though. 
    Anneliese Zelina - Model
    Nicolas King - Singer
    Rob Richie - Major league baseball player with the Detroit Tigers

    Darren Collison

     
     
    Raised as one of Jehovah's Witnesses
    President Dwight D. Eisenhower - WWII General and 34th President of the United States (1953–1961)
    Luke Evans - Actor
    Toni Braxton - Singer
    Michael Sam - First Gay NFL football player


    Nathan Day, frontman of grunge / Britpop group Darlia - "I grew up with a family whose parents were Jehovah’s Witnesses, so I felt very isolated."
    Kia Kahlo - Witness to rap
    Jacqueline Woodson

    Meg Myers - Musician / Singer
    Nathan Haines - Saxophonist
    Shushila Takao - Actress in New Zealand show "Filthy Rich"
    Kim Holland - Dutch Porn Actress

    Little Scream - Montreal musician

    Kelsey Lu - Fashion model
    Rebekah Vardy - I'm a Celeb star
    Alex Avery - Comedian in Portland, OR
     
    List of former Jehovah's Witnesses
    Michelle Rodriguez - actress, raised by mother
    Donald Glover - (aka Childish Gambino)

    Gregg Alexander - The New Radicals' lead singer; raised by mother

    Carol M. Swain - political scientist; professor at Vanderbilt University; author of Black Faces, Black Interests and The New White Nationalism in America: Its Challenge to Integration; left the Witnesses at the age of 20, in 1975 (Ms. Swain was born in 1954 into an extremely poor household in rural Virginia, not far from Roanoke. She grew up with 11 brothers and sisters, dropped out of school in the ninth grade and married at age 16 -- in part, she says, because she saw no need to plan for a lengthy future. She was a Jehovah's Witness, and she believed that Armageddon would begin in 1975)

    Peter Andre - Singer raised in Australia, presently living in London with wife pin up model *Jordan

    Naomi Campbell- Supermodel; Raised by mother

    Geri Halliwell - Singer (Spice Girls); Raised as a Jehovah's Witness[verification needed]

    Barbara Grizzuti Harrison - American writer of Visions of Glory: A History and a Memory of Jehovah's Witnesses(converted to Catholicism)

    Nancy Garrido - the now infamous kidnapper of Jaycee Dugard

    Latoya Jackson

    Michael Jackson - Michael became a Jehovah's Witness but disassociated himself shortly after his hit album, Thriller

    Olin R. Moyle - Former Watchtower Chief Attorney

    Dave Mustaine - Guitarist (ex-Metallica; Megadeth; ex- MD .45)

    Miki Nakatani - JapaneseActress, Raised as a Jehovah's Witness

    Gloria Naylor - novelist, author of The Women of Brewster Place (1982, American Book Award)

    Patti Smith - Singer and poet

    Leo Volpe

    Jill Scott-Singer; raised as one of Jehovah's Witness

    Hinano Yoshikawa - Japanese Fashion model and actress, Raised as a Jehovah's Witness

    K-os - Canadian R&B artist ; Raised Jehovah's Witness

    Rene Montes de Oca Martija - dissident human-rights activist in Cuba (son of JW)

    Selena Quintanilla Perez - Tejano singer ; raised as one of Jehovah's Witnesses

    Sherri Shepherd from The View. Her father is an elder in his congregation.

    Jill Scott - a singer,poet & actress from USA, she played in the movie - 'why did i get married'

    Maureen Mwanawasa, wife of late Zambian president, though she disassociated herself, but she still attends meetings. the late president was also studying with JWs, his mother was a JW. his children also attend meetings, i think one is a publisher.

    Thandiwe Banda our current Zambian first lady who was a JW until recently when she disassociated herself. Reportedly a former pioneer.

    Mamontha Modise was a JW. travels all over the world to report current news 2 South Africans.

    Ja Rule - Rapper - raised a jehovahs witness and is no longer one, in an interview he said his mother was disfellowshipped

    Jaywon; currently a musician, was raised a witness, later decided to follow a way of life thats suits him.

    Rick Haynes - Musician

    Travis Scott - NFL football player for Rams (raised JW)

    Scott Cheshire - Gotham City Writers
    Eddie Griffin - Comedian
    Leaders of the music band Shakespeare's Unit
     
    Rumors of:
    Eddie Murphy - Not verified yet

    Josh Groban - We don't know what to think yet.. ? Some have suspicions....

    Omarion - I believe he is only "studying"
     
    Jackie Chan - (I still don't believe the photo)
     
    Please Read
    Some people have wondered if we have listed people who simply studied briefly with Jehovah's Witnesses. As far as we know, this is not the case. Anybody can sit down and meet with Jehovah's Witnesses to study their beliefs. In no way would we consider that grounds for identifying somebody as a Jehovah's Witness. All of the people listed on our page have actually been considered Jehovah's Witnesses or considered themselves adherents of the faith, either by way of having been raised in the faith or because they were an active convert to the faith.
    Of course no insult is meant to Jehovah's Witnesses or anybody else by hosting this list. Personally, reading the biographies and faith statements of many famous Jehovah's Witnesses has helped tear down some stereotypes for me. It simply isn't true, for example, that this faith necessarily stifles creativity or achievement. Clearly, many adherents to the faith (including people raised in it as well as converts who chose to become Witnesses as adults) have been very famous creative people or have been very successful, as measured by worldly standards.
    Regardless of the obvious tensions between the pressures of worldly fame, versus remaining active in a religious faith which expects all of its members to live according to the highest Biblical standards of ethics and morality, there are indeed many "famous" adherents who have strived to remain faithful. Even for those who have failed to balance fame and success with the demands of their faith, the teachings and values they were raised with or embraced at some point as an adult remain forever an influence in their lives. Were this not true, these individuals would not be listed here at all. This list is based on what famous people themselves have said to interviewers and to the public. We have no access to actual Jehovah's Witness membership or attendance records. If a celebrity or famous person doesn't talk publicly about their experiences as a Jehovah's Witness, we would have no way of knowing about this part of their lives.
    The actions of a single individual should never be used to judge an entire group of people, and I believe most people realize this. Anybody who does try to condemn Jehovah's Witnesses by the behavior of their "worst" lapsed members or former members will stand instantly condemned themselves. This is because the cumulative behavior of the famous (and infamous) members of the group the accuser belongs to is far worse than anything they will be able to dig up relating to people who have been Jehovah's Witnesses. This is true of essentially any sufficiently large religious group. It is true also of anti-religious people, who are nearly always wise enough to avoid condemning entire groups by the actions of individuals, lest they be asked to answer for the hundreds of millions of murders perpetrated by Lenin, Pol Pot, Stalin, Adolph Hitler, Mao, Mussolini, Nicolae Ceausescu, Joseph Goebbels, Maximillien Robespierre, etc.
     
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    The Librarian got a reaction from Queen Esther in ARBEITSBLÄTTER | Negative Gefühle in den Griff bekommen   
    Dieses Arbeitsblatt hilft dir, mit einem Auf und Ab der Gefühle zurechtzukommen.
    Quelle
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    The Librarian reacted to bruceq in Should JW's punish, disfellowship, or shun members who disagree with certain teachings?   
    I realize that I am not an elder or former elder such as some of you are but I know what Loyalty to Jehovah is. And since a forum such as this one it is impossible to determine who is or is not an apostate, disfellowshipped or pretending to be a brother while dispensing divisions  and we are obviously associating together here it is my decision to now leave as I wish to cherish true Loyalty to my Creator. 
    Loyalty is important to me personally probably because my two previous marriages ended with my wife committing adultery although we were married for 7 and 10 years. So I can see how Jehovah must feel when someone who says they love you are disloyal to your face. I am currently married to my wife of 8 years and I believe we both must continue to develop loyalty to GOD FIRST then to each other. "Do ALL things for God's glory" 1 Cor. 10:31. And I no longer feel it is for me "God's glory" to be here. Goodbye.
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    The Librarian got a reaction from Carol Ann Torres in ISIS Kills a JW Sister in Finland Terror Attack   
    @Julie Bayley I just realized in that photo ..... that was her literature cart..... 
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    The Librarian got a reaction from Carol Ann Torres in Truckloads of supplies headed to our hurricane affected brothers and sisters in Rockport, Texas, USA. ?⛑??????   
    News updates shared by our members regarding Hurricane Harvey
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    The Librarian got a reaction from Carol Ann Torres in George Benson & Sheila Hutchinson on JW Broadcasting   
    Two of the original songs released last year, "I Give You My Best" & "Jehovah Welcomes You Home" were performed by George Benson, and the first one was a duet with singer Sheila Hutchinson, the same one who did duets with him over 10 years ago for the cancelled album mentioned in Our Kingdom Ministry. Compare this:
     
     
    with this:
     
    See also:

    which is part of this series:

    The question remains however as to who was Sheila Hutchinson?
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    The Librarian reacted to Bible Speaks in Argentina - Authorization to transfuse a premature baby in Cipolletti ??   
    Argentina
    They forced a Blood Transfusion to a Witness.
    http://www.rionegro.com.ar/cipolletti/autorizan-transfusion-a-un-bebe-prematuro-en-cipolletti-XY3436066
    Authorization to transfuse a premature baby in Cipolletti
    "In addition to religious beliefs or beliefs, the best interest of the child should be taken care of, for the integrity of which the court must ensure," Family Court said in a ruling that authorized doctors at a local health center to transfuse blood to a premature baby. His parents were opposed to religious matters.
    The measure was requested by the defender of Minors Celina Rosende, after a request from the professionals of the center where the child, about 20 days of life, is hospitalized and at risk of life.
    Judge Patricia Cladera acknowledged "the existence of a conflict between the conviction of the parties and the best interest of the child" by which it must ensure "in the understanding that it (religious belief) has no scientific scope to disqualify the medical indication that is formulated for the benefit of the child's integrity ".
    The scope of the law
    He recalled that Article 26061 provides in article 3 that "when there is a conflict between the rights and interests of children and adolescents against other equally legitimate rights and interests, the former will prevail."
    The magistrate met with the treating doctors to give her the medical history and inform her about the baby's diagnosis. And he met with the parents who told him that because they were Jehovah's Witnesses they did not consent to the transfusion of blood.
    The professionals said that the transfusion was "the right measure from a scientific and technical point of view" and clarified that although, as every medical practice had certain risks, the health benefits of the child were greater.


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    The Librarian reacted to Bible Speaks in Jehovah's Witnesses are already helping the Brothers and Sisters affected by the Hurricane Harvey in Texas - (John 13:35) ⛑???????   
    Jehovah's Witnesses are already helping the Brothers and Sisters affected by the Hurricane Harvey in Texas - (John 13:35) 




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    The Librarian got a reaction from Queen Esther in Truckloads of supplies headed to our hurricane affected brothers and sisters in Rockport, Texas, USA. ?⛑??????   
    News updates shared by our members regarding Hurricane Harvey
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    The Librarian reacted to Bible Speaks in Truckloads of supplies headed to our hurricane affected brothers and sisters in Rockport, Texas, USA. ?⛑??????   
    Truckloads of supplies headed to our hurricane affected brothers and sisters in Rockport, Texas, USA.
    ????????
    Photos shared by @adidasgeo #jwtexas #texas
     
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    The Librarian reacted to TrueTomHarley in The Bone Disposal Unit   
    I think I saw him with his cousin, Larry Largatherin
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    The Librarian reacted to TrueTomHarley in Why does Jehovah God forbid tattoos?   
    When you get old and fat and it stretches into something unsightly.
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    The Librarian reacted to AveragePub in Why are Jehovah Witnesses so hated by mainstream Christianity?   
    Because we expose their lies.
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    The Librarian reacted to TheWorldNewsOrg in Plane filmed landing in Sochi with three tornadoes right behind it   
    via TheWorldNewsOrg
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    The Librarian reacted to Alessandro Corona in Why does Jehovah God forbid tattoos?   
    Since we don't live under the mosaic law anymore, and tattoos were not mentioned by Jesus. they are not a sin. Jesus never commented on Pork, yet we eat pork, but it was a sin in the old testament. So why is eating Pork not a sin, but getting a tattoo is? There is no scripture supporting this stance. 
    When does a tattoo become a sin? When you get one because of idolatry. When you engrave images on yourself that represent false gods, idols, etc. 
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    The Librarian reacted to bruceq in Why are Jehovah Witnesses so hated by mainstream Christianity?   
    And since Jesus said "I am the way..." then the true faith would be Christian yet not believe in the Trinity. Very good point - we are the one. JW.ORG.
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    The Librarian reacted to Alessandro Corona in Governing Body: Does it show loyalty or disloyalty to question the GB?   
    the Boreans were commended for questioning Paul. 
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    The Librarian reacted to JW Insider in The Bone Disposal Unit   
    I think everyone knew that this was one of his favorite subjects along with his favorite numerology topics. I'm sure he was the one who wrote the article in 1956. I have been assured that he was the one who often repeated the idea that 999 people out of every thousand would die at Armageddon. This was even included in assembly speeches open to the public. The 99.9% figure was also included in the Watch Tower publications a few times.
    *** w58 10/15 pp. 614-615 What Will Armageddon Mean for You? ***
    Revelation 9:16 gives us an inkling of the size of Jehovah’s forces when it speaks of him as using, on a certain occasion, cavalry to the number of 200,000,000. And 2 Kings 19:35 tells of just one of these destroying a host of 185,000 warriors in one night. . . . On Satan’s side will be all the rest of mankind, more than 99.9 percent, even as we read: “The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.” He was also the one who said that due to the current laws of the land, we aren't allowed to kill our apostate children even though they are our own children.
    *** w52 11/15 p. 703 Questions From Readers ***
    In the case of where a father or mother or son or daughter is disfellowshiped, how should such person be treated by members of the family in their family relationship?—P. C., Ontario, Canada. We are not living today among theocratic nations where such members of our fleshly family relationship could be exterminated for apostasy from God and his theocratic organization, as was possible and was ordered in the nation of Israel in the wilderness of Sinai and in the land of Palestine. “Thou shalt surely kill him; thy hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him to death with stones, because he hath sought to draw thee away from Jehovah thy God, . . . And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is in the midst of thee.”—Deut. 13:6-11, AS. Being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of God through Jesus Christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws. The law of the land and God’s law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship. That's a very useful reminder not to kill our children, based on a question probably sent in by Percy Chapman, the Branch Servant in Ontario at the time.
    And of course, Fred Franz was the one who assured me that the hundreds of thousands of Christian martyrs who were willing to die for their faith in the 2nd and 3rd centuries were mostly all in Gehenna now, with no hope of a resurrection.
    Yes, he had a dark side. But at least he could snicker and joke while saying such serious things. I don't know if that makes it better or worse, though.
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    The Librarian got a reaction from JW Insider in The Bone Disposal Unit   
    @JW Insider We were so much more vivid with the gory details back then..... it's true.
    I wonder if Fred Franz was the influence for that? I remember he wouldn't hold back on the details.
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    The Librarian reacted to JW Insider in The Bone Disposal Unit   
    *** w56 8/1 p. 465 pars. 16-17 Jehovah’s Message Against Gog of Magog ***
    16 In the wake of Armageddon’s carnage, disease and pestilence from the rot and decay would plague the survivors were it not for the fact that Jehovah sends forth an invitation to the birds and beasts to attend this great slaughter. “Speak unto the birds of every sort, and to every beast of the field,” Jehovah says, and say to them, “Assemble yourselves, and come; gather yourselves on every side to my sacrifice that I do sacrifice for you, . . . Ye shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the princes of the earth.” This certainly shows the contempt in which Jehovah holds the proud and haughty of Gog’s system, letting the wild beasts and vultures feed upon them as worthless carrion!—Ezek. 39:17, 18, AS.
    17 With such a glorious feast of victory concluded, only the bones, bones from one end of the earth to the other, will be left for burial. What a task that will be for the survivors, to cleanse the earth of every remaining evidence of Gog’s forces! Even with the work well organized it will take seven months, Jehovah says, just to bury the bones. Scouting corps will be sent out on a full-time basis to search the land thoroughly and, when bones are found, markers will be set up for those with the spades and shovels who follow. (Ezek. 39:14, 15) Those privileged to share in that cleanup work will not view it as a revolting and disgusting assignment but will rejoice to be alive when Gog’s long and oppressive rule has come to an end and when the wicked are no more. Survivors of Armageddon will be happy and will greatly rejoice to have a share in preparing the earth for a global paradise of beauty and perfection under the reign of the King Christ Jesus. But first, before that happy day, this message against Gog must be delivered in its completeness.

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    In 1965, or so, several congregations used to put on skits for the Circuit Overseer's visit. ("Circuit Servant" in those days.) We did one where we re-enacted this scene from Ezekiel. To prepare, we literally gathered some sun-bleached skulls and bones from long-demised cattle, always plentiful on the acres of land and farms in Missouri. Then we set up some sand-piles on the platform of the Kingdom Hall behind the back curtain, with the bones already placed there. Then, when time for the "drama" came around during the meeting, we opened the curtain, had some little kids play the scouts who put markers by the bones, and then had some more mature brothers put the bones in their large burlap sacks. In rehearsal, one brother picked up a skull and would say things like, "looks like this one died because he was too bull-headed," etc. But the conclusion of the actual drama went like this. One sack-toting brother asks the others, "Hey. Has anyone seen Brother One-hour?" After learning that no one has seen him, he then says: "You don't suppose!?!?!?!?!  . . . . . and then, of course, he gets all dramatically wide-eyed, and throws the whole sack across the stage. Lights go to dark. Applause!!
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