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What is it about the scripture that you don't take faith in? Why do you reject the power of God's judgment that the scripture relays? I just added its source -Jer 17:9,10 I don't care if you make jest about me, but mocking the power of God and His word, is blasphemous. Perhaps you should read it again and think on it. 🙂
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"Jehovah" does not represent the tetragrammaton. It is a fallacy - a MADE UP NAME for your god. I've already put the same information up about what Jesus' name means in the past. It doesn't mean the hybrid name "Jehovah". "Yah", is not the same as "Jehovah". I refuse to acknowledge the name "Jehovah" as the name of the Almighty God and Father.
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It is proven that "Jehovah" is a made up name. The tetragrammaton is not made up. I can tell this is a real stickler with you. Why don't you just drop it and say, "Father" when speaking to or about God? Why do you press using a made up name? Jesus means 'Jehovah is Salvation' - Yah Will Save, Yah Saves Etymology From (1) יה (yah), the name of the Lord, and (2) the verb ישע (yasha'), to save. John means 'Jehovah has been Gracious' - Yah Is Gracious, Yah Has Been Gracious Etymology From (1) יה (yah), the shortened name of the Lord, and (2) the verb חנן (hanan), to be gracious. Elijah means 'My God is Jehovah' - Yah is God, From (1) the word אל ('el), God, and (2) the divine name יה (yah). Hallelujah means 'Praise Jah" which is short for Jehovah - Meaning Shine With Yah, Praise Yah, From (1) the verb הלל (halal), to shine or praise, and (2) יה (yah), the shortened name of the Lord.
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Let me ask you a simple question. Are we to add anything to the Bible? Are we too assume we can insert the tetragrammaton into the Greek scriptures, and call it "Jehovah" and all is okay? Jesus called the Father, "Father" or "God". Is that not good enough for JWs? It certainly was for the apostles. Why are JWs so rebelliously uppity that they ASSUME they can add to the scriptures, and change words around to suit their purpose? And what has it done for them, except cause criticism to come against them? Obviously, Jesus' example is not good enough for JWs. His example is just fine for me. Is it just too hard to say, "Father", rather than "Jehovah"? "You must not add to the word that I am commanding you, and you shall not take away from it in order to keep the commands of Yahweh your God that I am commanding you to observe." Deut 4:2
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You seem to have checked God's hand. "The heart is deceitful more than anything else, and it is disastrous. Who can understand it? I, YHWH examine the mind, I test the heart and give to each one according to his way, according to the fruit of his deeds." Jer 17:9,10 Is that not enough judgment for you?
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Oh come on. Are you slandering the Almighty God AND Jesus Christ? Therefore you pray in this way: “Our Father who is in heaven, may your name be treated as holy." Matt 6:9
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Yes, the "god" of your bible, is "Jehovah", a name I also refuse to use. Nothing wrong with calling God, "Father" as Jesus did. It appears that JWs refuse to follow in his example. I never called my father by his first name. Maybe you should ask yourself why you choose to call the Heavenly Father a hybrid name. Did you call your fleshly father by his first name, or would you have felt rather awkward by doing so?
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I hope you don’t underestimate the truth you already have. You are aware that the anointed in the organization are under the power of men who have no right to rule over them. (2 Chron 23:6; Num 3:10) That is truth, and only the Father and the Son through Holy Spirit allows you to see this. (1 Cor 2:13,14) It is the “man of lawlessness” that is the great apostasy in the last days. (2 Thess 2:3,4) When looking for this composite “man” setting himself over God’s Temple made with “living stones”/anointed (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17) we look to the organization where the anointed are found; the organization, said to be “inspired” by God - an idol and lawlessness. (Rom 1:25; Rev 13:4,15,18) The elder body is the “disgusting thing standing where it does not belong”. (Mark 13:14). The scriptures tell us that priests of God cannot be replaced. (Ezek 44:6-9) But the organization has changed those laws of God, and rebelliously made their own. Rev 11:1,2 says the Temple/anointed has been “given over to the Gentiles” – given over to the elders not anointed. You can perceive this, you see elders wielding their control not only over all JWs; but more importantly, the anointed priests. The vast majority of JWs cannot perceive this abomination. They are blinded by such truth. (2 Cor 3:14-16) They believe they have truth, but they are loving the lie that the organization and its rulership is inspired by God. 2 Thess 2:9-12. It is all based on one’s heart condition, the good or bad soil that either grows the word of truth, or rejects it. John 12:40 Luke 8:15 – “But the seed on the good soil—these are the ones who, after hearing the word, hold fast to it with a noble and good heart, and bear fruit with patient endurance.” Just your acknowledging that major fulfillment of prophesy in the last days, which spurs on the great tribulation and Armageddon, gives proof that you have been blessed with truth - with eyes that see. (Isa 35:3-5; 29:17-21) “He (man of lawlessness/Beast from the Sea) will speak words against the Most High and oppress the holy ones of the Most High. He will intend to change religious festivals and laws, and the holy ones will be handed over to him for a time, times, and half a time.” Dan 7:25 "His power will be great, but it will not be his own. He will cause outrageous destruction and succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy the powerful along with the holy people.” Dan 8:24 “Do you not know that you are God’s temple and the Spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy this one. For God’s temple is holy, which you are.” 1 Cor 3:16,17 “And it was permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them. It was also given authority over every tribe, people, language, and nation.” Rev 13:7 “If anyone is to be taken captive, into captivity he goes. If anyone is to be killed with a sword, with a sword he will be killed. This calls for endurance and faithfulness from the saints.” Rev 13:10 “Be careful that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deceit based on human tradition, based on the elements of the world, rather than Christ.” Col 2:8
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As I have clearly stated here, with scriptures to prove it, the thousand years of Christ's reign began in the first century (Ps 110:1,2), and ended when Satan was let out of the abyss to devise how to DECEIVE the last of the anointed, before the coming of the Kingdom of God. There is no scriptural basis to prove that man must reach perfection in order to be tested by Satan as righteous or unrighteous. Luke 22:31 Besides all the examples of righteous ones we already have in the Bible who were not physically perfect, IS THE ACCOUNT OF JOB. Or have you all forgotten about that remarkable account ? The man was righteous, but not perfect. He proved his faithful righteousness by all that he suffered under Satan's grueling test. We are judged by our actions in this life. There is one Armageddon. Only one. It is spoken of throughout the Bible. Another Armageddon has never been declared alongside it, to come afterward. Wt's thousand-year doctrine gives JWs a reprieve from being alert to the coming of Christ. (1 Thess 5:3; Rev 3:17,18) They have been promised salvation through a corrupt entity, the organization, leading into a thousand years of peace, which will give them time to become perfect before facing a final test. Corruption leading to paradise. What a twisted idea and yet millions have fallen for it. So sit back and enjoy the destruction to come, that also the Wt has created. Yes, the world will be made new, but to revel in the death of millions by describing their death as charred hotdogs lying in the street gutters, is morbid. Yet, that is what comes out of your leader's mouth. JWs sneer at the world of people, as if they can read their hearts better than the Father can. What an arrogant people you have become. What slander you have committed against the Father and the Son. You worship a god of destruction, not a God and His Son who offer life to those who come near to them. When God says He will destroy, it is a judgment and removal of His protective spirit. It is Satan who steps in to do the act of destroying. The example of how this works, is in the book of Job. "Ah, destroyer, and yourself not destroyed! And treacherous one, and no one has dealt treacherously with him!When you cease destroying, you will be destroyed. When you stop dealing treacherously, one will deal treacherously with you." Isa 33:1 "The last enemy to be abolished is death." 1 Cor 15:26
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Why are you lying? Pearl has never said that. The Remaining Ones - https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-remaining-ones.html And neither have I.
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Nope. Adam and Eve were perfect and sinned. Wt's thousand year doctrine erases all faithfulness by those examples of imperfect people written in the Bible; examples we already have, and so many more kept in God's memory who will receive eternal life without being tested again. JWs have no concept of Satan's deceptive powers, or how long he can wait it out before he leads people to their sudden death. Deceit is used in Rev 20:7-9. That can take a long time to develop. Use the birth and development of your organization as a template. I am faulting your organization's leaders for convincing millions that they must become perfect to be tested by Satan. This is bogus, as I already pointed out. God knows each of our heart's potential before we are ever born. (Ps 58:3; Jer 1:5)
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No, I didn't ignore it. “And they went up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the fortified camp of the saints and the beloved city, and fire came down from heaven and consumed them.” Rev 20:9 Interpreted also as: “way across the earth” “breadth of the earth” “expanse of the earth” The anointed are from all nations, tribes and people. (Rev 5:9,10) As are JWs. Rev 11:3,4,7-10 Jehovah’s Witnesses are in around 240 lands found over the “breadth of the earth”. In every congregation where there may be an anointed one, who “takes the lead”? The anointed one, or the elders? “And he (“Jehovah”) wants those in the congregation to obey the elders. Wt 2/2021 pgs 14-19 “You can thus understand why elders in congregations around the globe earn their fellow Witnesses’ love, respect, and honor.” Wt 17/3/11 Any anointed in a congregation is “surrounded” by a body of elders who expects their obedience, love, and HONOR; because, they are told to expect it, by a wicked slave. (Matt 24:48-51) The elders rule over the anointed. Deut 17:15; Rev 9:4,5 There is no disputing it. If anointed don’t accept their position, the position of the GB, the existence of the organization as belonging to God, their stance on doctrine, they are disfellowshipped. John 16:2; Rev 13:15 There is an evil I have seen under the sun, As an error proceeding from the ruler: 6 Folly is set in exalted positions, While the rich sit in a lowly place. (Prov 10:22;13:7; 2 Cor 8:9; Eph 1:7) 7 I have seen servants on horses, While princes (Isa 10:8; Rev 5:9,10) walk on the ground like servants. Eccl 10 6 Folly is set in exalted positions, While the rich sit in a lowly place. “Do not let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and who exalts himself over every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits down in the temple of God, proclaiming that he himself is God.” 2 Thess 2:3,4
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I am sorry if you feel I have offended you, but I've always had an aversion to deception. We'll stick to the Bible then. 🙂
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What good did physical perfection do for Adam and Eve? This is an absolute lie. You are saying that all the faithful patriarchs and those who put unwavering faith in the holy city to come, will be submitted to the test that your organization has devised…BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT PHYSICALLY PERFECT. (Heb chapter 11) Your organization suffers from OCD, Arauna – all aspects of it visibly seen by the world - the exterior display of the organization - including its people who must dress a certain way, must appear PERFECT! While inside, it is full of dead man’s bones. No. God already knows who are faithful; whose hearts would accept truth. God already knows the potential of goodness in every person who ever lived on the earth. He created mankind, did you forget? Your impotent god bases its judgment on what is seen on the outside, not what lies in the hearts of men. “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean." Matt 23:27 “For the eyes of the LORD range throughout the earth to strengthen those whose hearts are fully committed to him.” 2 Chron 16:9 Do you really question God's ability to judge each man while they walked this earth? Did God not judge Babylon once and for all? Who do you think will judge “Babylon” today, where false prophets have allowed God’s Temple in the anointed ones to be trampled? “Listen to the fugitives and the refugees from Babylon declaring in Zion how the Lord our God has taken vengeance, vengeance for His temple”. Jer 50:28 Rev 11:1,2 - “I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, ‘Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshippers. But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months.” This is exactly what Gog and Magog accomplish in Rev 20:7-9. Surrounding the saints, is trampling the Temple of God, the "holy city". Dan 7:7; 8:10-12; Mark 13:5,6,14,15; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 9:1-4; Rev 13:1,2,5-7,11,12 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Dan+7%3A7%3B+8%3A10-12%3B+Mark+13%3A5%2C6%2C14%2C15%3B+2+Thess+2%3A3%2C4%3B+Rev+9%3A1-4%3B+Rev+13%3A1%2C2%2C5-7%2C11%2C12&version=NKJV Undoubtedly, God’s temple in the anointed ones, has been TRAMPLED in the organization via false prophets, the elder body who replaced them as priests, and the people inside who accept the wicked dual power ruling over them. (Dan 2:40-45) I suggest all JWs read Jeremiah 50 and 51, and Rev. 18:4-8; 14:6-12 Once this divisive battle of truth against lies is finished, never again will Satan be allowed to “sift as wheat”, God’s people. (Luke 22:31) The harvest will be completed and Satan will be thrown into the lake of fire, with all not written in the book of life. Rev 20:11-15 ”All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast – all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.” Rev 13:8 Rev 20:14,15 - Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire. What beast is being worshipped? The fourth beast that tramples down God’s temple sanctuary, (Rev 13:5-7) made of “living stones” in the anointed! (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22) It is your organization of Gog and Magog. Every JW knows where the anointed are. I suggest all here, leave the Watchtower behind, before it is too late.
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I know that’s what you believe, Allen. By the way, you are very cordial this time around. Well appreciated. Only anointed priests, whether physically anointed in the early temple arrangement, or spiritually anointed today, are allowed to serve in the Temple sanctuary of God. That would never change. They ARE the Temple. (1 Cor 3:16,17) it-1 pp. 513-514 - Jesus Christ is Scripturally spoken of as the “foundation cornerstone” of the Christian congregation, which is likened to a spiritual house. Through Isaiah, Jehovah foretold that He would lay in Zion as a foundation “a stone, a tried stone, the precious corner of a sure foundation.” (Isa 28:16) Peter quoted and applied to Jesus Christ this prophecy regarding the “foundation cornerstone” on which individual anointed Christians are built up as “living stones,” to become a spiritual house or temple for Jehovah. (1Pe 2:4-6) Just as the topmost stone of a building is conspicuous, so Jesus Christ is the crowning stone of the Christian congregation of anointed ones, which is likened to a spiritual temple. Anointed Christians on earth are likened to a temple, Jesus Christ being its “foundation cornerstone.” (See CORNERSTONE.) it-2 pp. 1036-1037 w69 5/1 pp. 270-277 “The spiritual temple may be represented in a local congregation of Jehovah’s witnesses by the presence therein of one or more anointed followers of Jesus Christ.” Eph 2:20-22 The word for “saint” in Rev 20:9 is the same word used in the following scriptures: Acts 9:41; 26:10; Rom 12:13; 15:25; 16:2; 16:15…and it goes on. Rev 11:18; 13:7,10; 14:12;15:3;17:6;16:6; 18:24 As you try to dismiss the “saints” as the priesthood throughout the Greek scriptures, and they only have access to the Temple of God, you are dismissing the scriptures as well. By saying otherwise, you are aiding the existence of the man of lawlessness that “stands where it doesn’t belong” – in the Temple of God. (Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2) Scripture from the past, helps interpret scripture today.🙂 “So you shall appoint Aaron and his sons that they may keep their priesthood, but the layman who comes near shall be put to death." Num 3:10 2 Thess 2 “And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendour of his coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.” Oh my goodness. You are so blind, Arauna. Do you know what a man-made scheme is? Beth Sarim The "generation" teaching Every failed predicted of Armageddon and the dates surrounding all of them. The "thousand year" doctrine The promise that an earthly organization is blessed by God - an organization built in the world where Satan has control! The practice of disfellowshipping based on rejection of that organization and its liars, the GB. The promise that an earthly organization will remain standing after Armageddon The idea that all the anointed and Jesus Christ as the second Adam, must not enjoy their inheritance of the earth, but remain in heaven ONLY. The blasphemy that elders not anointed are allowed to rule over God's chosen people/priests/anointed. That last one is the most critical, a diabolical man-made scheme to eradicate a spiritual nation that has ever come to pass. 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3 Religious man-made schemes are demonically inspired. Matt 24:24,25; 1 Tim 4:1; Rev 16:13-16
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Two Armageddons! Do you take that message to the door?
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It was the KJV. You can see for yourself. https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g40/kjv/tr/0-1/ The KJV translates Strong's G40 in the following manner: holy (161x), saints (61x), Holy One (4x), miscellaneous (3x). Outline of Biblical Usage [?] most holy thing, a saint Strong’s Definitions [?](Strong’s Definitions Legend) ἅγιος hágios, hag'-ee-os; from ἅγος hágos (an awful thing) (compare G53, G2282); sacred (physically, pure, morally blameless or religious, ceremonially, consecrated):—(most) holy (one, thing), saint.
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I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't deliberately leave out the next scripture: "And they went out over the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them." Look and read! After Armageddon, how can the "saints" who are the anointed, be surrounded by Satan and his army? How can the "beloved city" be surrounded when Jesus rules with his anointed, in the spiritual Temple of God? What is the beloved city of God? In the Kingdom, it will be complete. It is New Jerusalem which is the habitation of God's spirit, Jesus, and the sealed "144,000". Look at that powerhouse. DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT AFTER ARMAGEDDON, SATAN HAS MORE POWER THAN GOD AND CHRIST, AND CAN SURROUND THE SPIRITUAL, NEW JERUSALEM? Rev 21 - "And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. 11 It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. 12 It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. 13 There were three gates on the east, three on the north, three on the south and three on the west. 14 The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. I did not see a temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. 23 The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp. 24 The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their splendour into it." This is the glorious city that you say Satan and his army will surround after a thousand years when Christ is ruling with his sealed anointed "144,000". This is the city that you say Satan will DECEIVE in order to surround them. (Rev 20:8) You are giving Satan more power than God and Jesus. You are saying not only will God and Jesus DESTROY every human on this earth EXCEPT FOR JWS, but then tell us that after such a global destruction BY GOD AND JESUS, SATAN will arise once again - AND HIS TARGET IS THE ANOINTED SAINTS. NO! Satan is the destroyer (John 10:10; 1 Cor 10:9,10) AND he uses DECEIT to try and destroy the anointed in the last days BEFORE THE COMPLETION OF ARMAGEDDON. (Rev 12:13,15;16:13-16) You and all JWs who believe they are SAFE in the organization and who can do no wrong in the sight of God (1 Thess 5:3) are being deceived TODAY, by false prophets/christs. (Matt 24:4,5,24,25; 2 Pet 2:1; 1 Tim 4:1) Your Gog of Magog/Gog and Magog, is where the "saints" are surrounded RIGHT THIS MINUTE IN THE ORGANIZATION. (Rev 13:1,2,5-7;11,12) They are under the rule of "Gentiles" - God's chosen people are under the rule of men not anointed. They are "foreigners" residing with "Israel". All JWs not anointed are "Gentiles". "be sure to appoint over you a king the Lord your God chooses. He must be from among your fellow Israelites. Do not place a foreigner over you, one who is not an Israelite." Deut 17:15 Do you think that law of God is obsolete? Today's "Israel" are the anointed priests of the Temple of God? (1 Cor 3:16) But elders not anointed RULE OVER THEM. No where in the word of God can anyone replace the priesthood. This explains the actions of Gog and Magog present over the anointed. The Beast from the Sea is the MAN OF LAWLESSNESS - THE SAME ENTITY THAT HAS TAKEN THE ANOINTED "CAPTIVE". Col 2:8; Rev 13:10,18; 16:13-16 2 Thess 2:1-4- "Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God." This is describing the replacement of the "living stones" of God's temple in the anointed. 1 Pet 2:5,9; Eph 2:20-22 It is an abomination to God. Ezek 44:6-9 I must have repeated the horrendous words of the Wt, a hundred times by now: "Representing the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the earth. Rather than challenge their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking elders!" wt 02/8/1 Okay, you want a war on your hands? YOU GOT IT! THIS, IS ARMAGEDDON, A WAR OF TRUTH AGAINST LIES. "And you and your sons with you will attend to your priesthood for everything at the altar, and within the veil, and you will serve. I have given your priesthood to you as a gift service, and the foreigner that comes near will be put to death." Num 18:7 Not only has the elder body replaced the priesthood, they rule over them.
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If you go back to Ezekiel 7 and read from the beginning, you will see who receives the message. It wasn't to the nations of the world, it was to Israel, God's people under covenant. Scripture is consistent - who is "Israel" today?
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Can you tell my where I said Gog of Magog will not be destroyed? I did say this: Yes, Gog of Magog is destroyed, but he was allowed to attack Israel because of their sin, and as the scriptures say, it happens again “in future days”. You can find it here: The authentic Gog of/and Magog, which are the two Beasts of Revelation 13, are thrown into the lake of fire. Rev 14:9-11 Watchtower's counterfeit Gog "of" Magog, a "coalition of nations" in Satan's realm, will be gone in the Kingdom, because Satan's worldly kingdom will have ended. He is the author of death, and death will be destroyed. 1 Cor 15:26
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“In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.” Dan 2:44 In Revelation 20:7-9, have you noticed that after deceiving the “camp of the saints”/holy city\anointed, Satan is thrown into the lake of “burning sulphur where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown”? Why doesn’t it mention Gog and Magog were thrown into the lake of fire? Wouldn't they end up there? Gog and Magog, are the organization/Beast of Rev 13:1 (Magog), and the false prophet /Beast of Rev 13:11 (Gog) that directs it. That is why. They are one and the same. There it tells us that the Beast/organization (Rev 13:1) makes war with the saints. (Rev 13:7) How? By deceiving them. (Rev 13:14) Wt's doctrine doesn't address the Beast from the Sea deceiving the anointed. It also doesn't address how it's faulty doctrine of Gog and Magog showing up in "paradise", will explain the deceit that will overcome the "saints"/holy city there as well. Which proves that the anointed have been deceived all along in the organization.
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God allowed his people to be taken captive by Babylon. And what was the outcome later for Babylon? He gave a warning early on to His people - If, however, you do not obey the LORD your God by carefully following all His commandments and statutes I am giving you today, all these curses will come upon you and overtake you: “Because you did not serve the LORD your God with joy and gladness of heart in all your abundance, you will serve your enemies the LORD will send against you in famine, thirst, nakedness, and destitution. He will place an iron yoke on your neck until He has destroyed you. The LORD will bring a nation from afar, from the ends of the earth, to swoop down upon you like an eagle—a nation whose language you will not understand, a ruthless nation with no respect for the old and no pity for the young.” “They will besiege all the cities throughout your land, until the high and fortified walls in which you trust have fallen. They will besiege all your cities throughout the land that the LORD your God has given you.” Deut 28:15, 47,48,49,52 Yes, Gog of Magog did come upon the unfaithful of the nation of Israel. Upon “Israel” today, it is not the political nations that you have to worry about, but the “Gentile” army of elders standing in the “holy place” which is the spiritual temple and dwelling of God in the anointed; replacing them as priests and cutting off their daily sacrifices of praise, “killing” them through disfellowshipping when they reject the wicked slave and her idol, throwing them out of the “synagogue” for their testimony to Christ- they, and many believers with them. Ezek 44:6-9; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Dan 11:31,32; Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:1-4; Rev 11:1-3,7; 13:15; 18:4-8 For a nation has invaded my land, mighty and without number. Their teeth are lion’s teeth; they have the fangs of a lioness. 7 They have destroyed my vines; they have turned my fig trees into mere splinters. They have completely stripped off the bark and thrown it aside; the twigs are stripped bare. Put on sackcloth, you priests, and mourn; wail, you who minister before the altar. Come, spend the night in sackcloth, you who minister before my God; for the grain offerings and drink offerings are withheld from the house of your God. Joel 1 Rev 9:1-4 - The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss. 2 When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss. 3 And out of the smoke locusts came down on the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth. 4 They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads. Rev 11:1-3 - I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. 2 But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. 3 And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.” It is impossible in the organization for anyone to follow the commandments fulfilled in Jesus Christ's teachings, when the doctrine of men takes precedence.
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I gave you scriptures to prove otherwise. You gave me big words. 🙂 I wish you would analyze God's Word that would prove otherwise. The GB has created another fairytale by putting a different identity and purpose on the words, "Gog of/and Magog". But there were also lying prophets among the people then, just as there will be lying religious teachers among you. They’ll smuggle in destructive divisions, pitting you against each other—biting the hand of the One who gave them a chance to have their lives back! They’ve put themselves on a fast downhill slide to destruction, but not before they recruit a crowd of mixed-up followers who can’t tell right from wrong. They give the way of truth a bad name. They’re only out for themselves. They’ll say anything, anything, that sounds good to exploit you. They won’t, of course, get by with it. They’ll come to a bad end, for God has never just stood by and let that kind of thing go on. 2 Pet 2:2
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"In addition, speak positively about Jehovah’s organization and about your brothers and sisters. Do not criticize the elders. What you say about them can determine whether your children will turn to them in times of need." Wt April 2022 I think you will find this video very enlightening about the elder body neglecting children in their time of need. By what is said from the mouths of elders in the reported case of abuse, will hopefully protect other children, from them. Mark 4:22 - "For nothing is hidden except to be revealed, and nothing concealed except to be brought to light." Eph 5:12,13 - "Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. For the things they do in secret are shameful even to mention. But all things being exposed by the light are made visible." The video brings to light only one side of negligence and abuse committed by the elder body as a whole. The full spectrum of their destructive abilities enacted over God's holy people, is told here - WHO ARE THE LOCUSTS?
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Ezek 38 - “Therefore, prophesy, son of man, and say to Gog: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: On that day when my people Israel are living securely, you will take notice 15 and come from your place, from the remote parts of the north, you and many peoples with you, all of them riding on horses, a great company and a vast army. 16 You will advance against my people Israel like a cloud covering the earth. In future days I will bring you against My land so that the nations may acknowledge me, when before their eyes I magnify myself through you, O Gog. Ezek 39 - “‘I will make My holy name known in the midst of My people Israel; I will not let My holy name be profaned anymore. Then the nations will know that I am the Lord, the Holy One of Israel. 8 Realize that it is coming and it will be done, declares the Sovereign Lord. It is the day I have spoken about.” “The nations will know that the house of Israel went into exile due to their iniquity, for they were unfaithful to me. So I hid my face from them and handed them over to their enemies; all of them died by the sword. 24 According to their uncleanness and rebellion I have dealt with them, and I hid my face from them.” Yes, Gog of Magog is destroyed, but he was allowed to attack Israel because of their sin, and as the scriptures say, it happens again “in future days”. “Israel” today has profaned the “name” of God by putting trust in the organization/Beast and in men and their doctrine. (Rev 13:4) Only those who “come out of her” (Rev 18:4-8) will escape the judgment that Ezek 39 speaks of. The anointed who leave and repent of the sins, vowing to obey the teachings solely of the Father in Jesus Christ are “restored”. Ezek 39:25-29 The elder body is the army (Magog), the leaders - “Gog” ("an Israelite"), that comes against “Israel”/anointed for choosing to obey men rather than their Master, Jesus Christ. (Matt 24:48-51; Rev 9:1-4; 13:11,12,15-18)