Witness

4 hours ago, BroRando said:

Proof you're an imposter....

Your leader did say, "this is war" - the war of truth against lies. And he seemed very troubled by it, as if he is on the losing side.   (Eph 6:10-17; Rev 12:7)

"Indeed, it is necessary that there be factions among you, so that those who are approved may be recognized among you."  1 Cor 11:19

Matt 18:7 – “ Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! (1914 is one of the big ones.  2 Thess 2:1,2)  Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!”

But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. ³⁷ For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.” Matt 12:36,37

 “Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruit.”  Prov 18:21

"In the same way, every good tree produces good fruit, but a bad tree produces bad fruit.”  Matt 7:17

“The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. (1914) ⁵ We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.”  2 Cor 10:4,5

“For the word of God is living and effective and sharper than any double-edged sword, penetrating as far as the separation of soul and spirit, joints and marrow. It is able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart.”  Heb 4:12

3 hours ago, BroRando said:

Proof you're an imposter....

Does this mean that there are "imposters" in the organization as well, who don't share your love for 1914?  

On 9/25/2021 at 8:43 AM, JW Insider said:

We can take an interest in varying views but come to our own conclusions about them.

In secret you can, or with those whom you hope you can trust. (Micah 7:5,6) I see Jws on here in disagreement with the 1914 doctrine. Yet, they are still considered brothers.  It is a disfellowshipping factor, if one declares before the elder body that it is a lie.  As soon as one speaks up stating why it's a lie, they are cut off from the organization.  In this case, they are not considered a brother.  Hypocrisy is practiced not only among the leaders, but among JWs who say one thing in private and bury it before those in power.  If there is solid evidence that a lie is being taught, it is in the interests of all to bring that evidence to the table.  Otherwise, it shows the fear of men.  Unity should not compromise truth.  

When following in the footsteps of Jesus Christ, we put off falsehoods, and speak truth to our neighbor.  (Ps 15:2,3)  Otherwise one's heart has not made the distinction between  what is good and what is bad, - and believing as we stand before God in judgment, that we are among the righteous.   (John 7:18; Eph 4:25; Mal 3:18)

  1 Cor 10:21

15 hours ago, BroRando said:

The constant feature refers to a continual sacrifice. Animal sacrifices were brought to an end by the death of Jesus Christ.

Who was in charge of offering sacrifices in the early temple arrangement?

"The Levitical priests will never fail to have a man always before me to offer burnt offerings, to burn grain offerings, and to make sacrifices."  Jer 33:18

"you yourselves, as living stones, a spiritual house, are being built to be a holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ."

The anointed priests of the spiritual Temple of God (1 Cor 3:16; Eph 2:20-22) are responsible for the "daily sacrifice" of praise.  Look in your Insight Book, which explains the spiritual Temple, and who comprise it.  Forget what G. Loesch has said, that every JW comprises the Temple.  That is a ploy to hide the "man of lawlessness" within the organization.  The anointed have been cut off from offering their individual "sacrifices of praise" in truth, by your wicked slave. (Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:5-7)  Their hired henchmen/elder body/"Gentiles have replaced the priesthood. (Rev 11:1,2) THAT is how the constant feature has been removed.   Your downfall is taking literal time periods and trying to make them fit - literally.  The dates in the time of Jesus Christ are symbolic.  (1 Cor 15:46)

Dan.9:26 reads:
"And after the sixty-two weeks, anointed shall be cut off (Rev 13:7,17) and shall have nothing for himself" (Isa 50:2; 63:4,5; Mal 2:7; Isa 41:28) (Isa 58:12; Ezek 13:5; 22:30; Isa 63:3; Rev 19:15).

"And the people of the prince who is to come (2 Thess 2:4; Rev 11:2; 13:7) shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. Its end shall come with a flood (Isa 28:15; Rev 12:15; 9:2), and to the end there shall be war (Rev 12:7; Gen 3:15; Matt 24:6; Dan 11:36; Rev 17:14; 19:11,14; 16:13-16; 20:7,8).

"Desolations are decreed."  (Hos 4:6; Mal 2:8; Ezek 22:26; Dan 11:31; Rev 13:15,17,18; 12:2; 9:3-6,9-11) 

Constant Feature

15 hours ago, BroRando said:

Our Prayers and Praise are far more valuable to Jehovah than gold and silver.

You must not have heard A. Morris's talk on money.  According to him, God and Jesus only love you if you give to the organization.  He quoted John 14:23, and said:

"God loves people who love to give. And that’s true.  So we want J. to love us.."
"but if we say we love Jesus, and were not like Christendom with this proclamation for their love for Jesus, they really don’t even know the real Jesus, frankly till you get an accurate knowledge of the truth.  But if we’re in the truth, dedicated baptized servants of him, if we really love him we’re gonna observe his word.  Now that means not just carrying out the kingdom putting our time and energy into it, it also means money"

Nowhere in Jesus' teachings, did he say to put value on money, but to give to the poor - those in need. Apparently, that excludes the GB and all leaders of the organization - leaches who suck the poor dry.   

On 9/20/2021 at 6:19 PM, the Sower of Seed said:

And from the time that the constant feature has been removed and the disgusting thing that causes desolation has been put in place, there will be 1,290 days" The United Nation will rule the Earth on and after this.

HOW will the United Nations find all of the anointed priests in the organization and remove the "constant feature", their "daily sacrifices" that a priest is to carry out?

 "you yourselves, as living stones, are being built into a spiritual house for a holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ."  1 Pet 2:5

1 Cor 3:16,17 - "Don’t you yourselves know that you are God’s temple and that the Spirit of God lives in you?  17 If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him; for God’s temple is holy, and that is what you are."

How is the temple/priesthood destroyed?  Only by those who know where the anointed are found.  

"built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building, being put together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22 In him you are also being built together for God’s dwelling in the Spirit."  Eph 2:20-22

42 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

But that it what it takes to be a JW isn't it ? Lack of true feelings for others. 

There are so many forms of abuse in the organization.  Whatever was taught and dismissed, as errors in teachings, mislead people through spiritual abuse. They carry a full doctrine of lies and burden the people down with them, whether they know it or not. (Matt 11:28-30; Luke 11:46; Col 2:20-23)   Whatever physical pain and suffering is caused by the organization's sweeping sins under the rug, is emotional and physical abuse.  It's so easy for JWs to ignore the pains of others.  They cannot fathom that years of suffering by victims of abuse, have gone by in their organization - abuse committed to their own "brothers and sisters"; who, when they have had enough, leave, and are then,shunned.    It is a haven of "lawlessness", the transgressing of Christ's word, in many ways.

 "Because lawlessness will multiply, the love of many will grow cold." 

"Do nothing from rivalry or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves."  Phil 2:34

How can they do this, when their leaders set the example of self-gratification?

8 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

Exactly, and I deal with this person to call her bluff.

I commend you.  You have this remarkable talent of twisting whatever one says or doesn't say, into a lie.  

On 9/23/2021 at 7:15 PM, xero said:

Your trumpet has been sounding an incredibly indistinct call. I might add that if you are not spending time on Catholic forums or atheist forums or any other religious group which has a forum you don't appear to be sincerely interested in your calling.

Let's say you had to cut to the chase and make your point in 30 seconds. Try to do that and you'll know whether you even know what you think you know.

Obviously you won't read this, because it will take longer than 30 seconds.  I don't need to "try" to conform to your wishes, but to conform my words to truth in God's word.  Isn't that right?  But, in a rather larger nutshell, this is why I wouldn't spend time on Catholic forums or atheist forums.

Unlike the Watchtower, which preaches that the warning call to come out of "Babylon" applies to all other religions, this call's history was directed to God's people under covenant.  (Jer 51:6) .   And why were God's people in Babylon to begin with?  False prophets, idolatry and rebellion against His decrees thrived among His people.  When His warning call sent through His messengers was unheeded, He removed His protection, and they were conquered by the enemy.  They were disciplined through this enemy’s power, but not all responded in repentance.  Their hearts became hardened; they loved the lies and the idolatry.   

Today’s warning call is also to those under covenant with God, and has  been going on for quite a few years. 1 Cor 5:9-13 used for disfellowshipping purposes, applies to those under the New Covenant, and not to all JWs.  Elders have no permission to judge those under God's covenant. They have no permission to judge any JW.   The judges of the Body of Christ are the anointed.  Additionally, it states, God judges those outside - the Catholics, the atheist, and all.  Yet, because of their association with the Body, JWs receive this message as well. (Matt 25:31-46; John 13:20; Matt 7:21-23; 2 Thess 2:8; Rev 13:1,4,8; Isa 57:20)  The "harvest" is of the wheat, sons of God/anointed priests who are now under "Babylon" - a spiritual state of confusion where dark, failed untruths have no share in the light and purity of Jesus Christ. (Matt 13:38; 2 Cor 6:14; Eph 4:25)  They “live” with spiritual harlots who love their riches, power and dominion over Christ’s “kings of the earth”. Rev 1:5;5:9,10  Revelation concerns Christ’s kings, not rulers on the political scene. (Jer 2:20; 13:27; Ezek 16:25; Ps 106:39; Rev 13:11,12; 17:15,5)

 The Wt. holds the rod of discipline that has come against the anointed – Prov 10:13; Dan 2:33,34; Ps 2:9; Isa 8:9; Dan 8:25; Rev 9:9

– a stinging army from the "north", the elder body/man of lawlessness which has trampled down the spiritual members of God's Temple.  (Amos 7:1; Joel 1:4,6,7,9; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Rev 11:1-3; Rev 9:3-6)   Why?  They have accepted the lies of false prophets, and the idolatry formed through the presence of these prophets’ earthly treasures – the organization.  They have allowed themselves to be trampled ; GOD’S TEMPLE  is in ruins.  In the organization the anointed living stones, must not become one body under Jesus Christ.  They must remain scattered according to your leadership – “not one stone upon a stone”.  (Matt 24:2,24-26)

Always, God has sent His messengers to His people under covenant. (Ezek 3:17-19; Amos 3:7) When there is no distinction being made between the sins of the Wt and the sins of the world, it should be clear that the anointed must detach themselves from such iniquity, and the abomination standing in the holy place. (Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4)   Except JWs see only the sins of the world, and excuse, or are oblivious to, their organization’s sins.

The call is only indistinct to those who choose to remain asleep in darkness - who believe God does not measure the sins of His people. (Ezek 2:5; Zech 2:6,7; Rev 11:1)  If they choose lies over truth – where spiritual harlots breathe out lies to God’s holy people -  their hearts are hardened to the understanding of the message. (Isa 6:10; Matt 13:15; 2 Thess 2:9-12; Rev 16:13-16)  God does not abandon us to darkness, if we yearn to receive the light of life through His Son. (Jer 3:22; 14:7;24:7; Zech 2:8-13;  Eph 5:13-17)

Salvation awaits those who reject the lies, the idolatry, the sins, and man of lawlessness  (Isa 48:20; Rev 18:4-8) Since Christ, this salvation has never been in the form of an earthly organization/corporation built in Satan’s realm, admitted to be a unique idea of men.  God and Jesus Christ are there to comfort the victims of captivity, sin, dominion, and the oppressive decrees of men.  Just as Babylon was destroyed, and only a remnant survived, it is the same today.  Only a remnant will return from “captivity” under the Harlot and her “Beast”.  (Rev 13:10) (Isa 41:11,10; Mal 3:6; Joel 3:1,2; Isa 43:5-9)

1 hour ago, xero said:

You keep not getting the point. We're talking about YOU, not anyone else. What are YOU doing and why?

The proper response is  "I am doing ____ because ____". Anything else is weaseling around.

Oh, I see.  As if what I write here isn't enough to give you a clue  🙂  "I am doing" the preaching work that I share with others.  This preaching is to "my people", "Israel" and to those with them. (Matt 10:23; Rev 11:1-3; 18:4-8; 14:6-12)  This is what I do. Matt 10:16-25  I would hope the scriptures shared already, would answer "because".  

3 hours ago, xero said:

I'll take that as a "No".

The scriptures are exposing the man of lawlessness that stands in the Temple of God. 2 Thess 2:3,4 The abomination of desolation/disgusting thing of Matt 24:15,16 is this act of lawlessness.  End time prophesy has to do with the trampling of God's priesthood/Temple by the Beast/the elder body that "stands where it does not belong", as counterfeit priests and who rule, judge, and spiritually "kill" the anointed. Rev 13:5-7,15.  This is nothing new that I haven't already stated numerous times on this forum. 

The scriptures give evidence, but it seems that even presenting God's word is viewed as "bloviating".  It is not an act of being "holier than thou", it is relying on God's word to give us truth and not on the word of men who twist and change Jesus' teachings, to fit their selfish desires.  

2 hours ago, xero said:

Can you, without bloviating explain what it is you are doing and why? 

Do you consider the use of God's word, "bloviating"? I hope not.

Isa 48:20; Matt 24:15,16, 24,25; Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4,9-12; Rev 11:1-3; Mal 3:1-4;  Col 2:8; Rev 13:1,2,5-11,12,15-17; 18:4-8

10 hours ago, JW Insider said:

Speculation can be fun and entertaining, but if we try to limit the words of Jesus, we might end up actually rejecting those words. And we can end up giving too much credence to "meaningless talk."

You are witnessing the incredible power of a lie, that has blinded your own people. This is just one segment of lies and blindness that JWs have willingly submitted to.

"Because of this, since we have this ministry, just as we have been shown mercy, we do not lose heart, 2 but we have renounced shameful hidden things, not behaving with craftiness or adulterating the word of God, but with the open proclamation of the truth commending ourselves to every person’s conscience before God. 3 But if indeed our gospel is veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, 4 among whom the god of this age has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that they would not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God."  2 Cor 4:1-4

11 minutes ago, xero said:

"No, God does have witnesses, but it's just not JW's."

God's true "witnesses" are seen through these scriptures:

Isa 43:10-12; 44:7-8; Zech 13:9; 1 Pet 2:5,9,10; Rom 9:25,26; 1 Cor 3:16,17; 2 Cor 6:16; Eph 2:20-22; Rev 5:9,10

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isa+43%3A10-12%3B+44%3A7-8%3B+Zech+13%3A9%3B+1+Pet+2%3A5%2C9%2C10%3B+Rom+9%3A25%2C26%3B+1+Cor+3%3A16%2C17%3B+2+Cor+6%3A16%3B+Eph+2%3A20-22%3B+Rev+5%3A9%2C10&version=NIV

3 hours ago, BroRando said:

I know I am dealing with a false prophet, a fake, an imitation.

One other thing, I'm not a prophet, but I do help a prophet spread the message to God's holy people/
saints/anointed/ "Israel" and those with them. (Matt 10:23; Mark 13:27; Rev 11:1-3;18:4-8)  I suppose its a modern-day comparison to the relationship Jeremiah had with Baruch. (Jer 36:4)  Or, Elijah with Elisha.  (1 Kings 19:19)   

Matt 17:11; Mal 3:1-4; 4:5,6

On 9/21/2021 at 11:57 AM, BroRando said:

If you knew anything false prophet. You would know that (John 1:18) reads "No man has Seen (theon) at Any time" (John 1:18) <~~~~ Read and weep.  (Headslap in the back of the head)

https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/jhn/1/18/t_conc_998018

Also, check Wt's Greek Kingdom Interlinear.  

εὸνGod οὐδεὶςno one ἑώρακενhas seen πώποτε·at any time; μονογενὴς only-begotten θεὸςgod ὁthe (one) ὢνbeing εἰςinto τὸνthe 

κόλπονbosom τοῦof the πατρὸςFather ἐκεῖνοςthat (one) 

θεὸς - https://biblehub.com/greek/2316.htm

2 hours ago, BroRando said:

When I see an impostor use the word 'saints'

You must mean Eph 1:18, in the NKJV, which your leaders once said they liked that translation.  So, the problem must lie with you??  

"Saints" in this scripture:

ἅγιος hágios, hag'-ee-os; from ἅγος hágos (an awful thing) (compare G53, G2282); sacred (physically, pure, morally blameless or religious, ceremonially, consecrated):—(most) holy (one, thing), saint.

Many times it is translated simply as "holy", or as "holy people" - 

"To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ who are in Colosse:

Grace to you and peace from God our Father [a]and the Lord Jesus Christ."  Col 1:2

"To God’s holy people in Colossae, the faithful brothers and sisters in Christ: Grace and peace to you from God our Father."  NIV

2 hours ago, BroRando said:

Jesus is God in the errant scripture by Chrsitendom in John 1:1...  I know I am dealing with a false prophet, a fake, an imitation.

I have never said Jesus is the Almighty God.  I don't believe in the trinity.

4 hours ago, Arauna said:

Well - 1914 is the year that Jesus was crowned as king invisibly in heaven and is backed by prophecy and real-time events. 

 ^“Therefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, ¹⁶ do not cease to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers: ¹⁷ that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, ¹⁸ the eyes of your ^[f]understanding (“hearts”) being enlightened; that you may know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints, ¹⁹ and what is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe, according to the working of His mighty power ²⁰ which He worked in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, ²¹ far above all principality^[g] (“rule”) and ^[h]power (“authority”) and ^[i]might (“power”) and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come.

²² And He put all things under His feet, and gave Him to be head over all things to the church, ²³ which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.”  Eph 1:15-23

This happened in the first century.  It is utter blasphemy to say Jesus was not reigning in the first century.  1914 has Satanic roots, and is the downplaying of the glory, authority, power, might and dominion, of Jesus Christ.  (Gen 3:15; Dan 7:25; 2 Thess 2:1-3,9-12)

There is NO scripture that states Jesus didn't have this ruling authority until 1914. None.  It is the fabrication of men fallen away from the guidance of God's spirit -  leading to their foolishness, and stiff-necked arrogance that dwells their hearts. 

JWs treasure this lie - TREASURE IT, as if it is solid gold.  

1914

14 hours ago, BroRando said:

No need for me to spoon feed you

I do not desire to be spoon fed by false prophets, but rather, “expose them”.  Maybe they will turn and be repentant for their folly. (Eph 5:11)  Your words that I highlighted are a cunning strategy to save yourself from directly being called, a false prophet.  It doesn’t work.

The earmark of being deceived, is in believing you haven’t been.  The anointed/”elect” spoken of in Matt 24:24,25 believe they have been saved, that they have found truth,  as no doubt you do – someone who puts faith not in spiritual things, but in the natural inclinations of man to assume to know how and when the kingdom arrives by pulling literal dates out of a hat. You’ve started with false predictions, you will end with false predictions. (Matt 16:2,3)

Jesus said, ‘my kingdom is not of this world’. (John 18:36) So, why would we project the coming of the kingdom as having fulfillment in the world of political nations?  Looking to the world for prophesy fulfillment has given Satan all the ability possible, to deceive.  Matt 16:1-4

But this is what the early disciples witnessed, as well as those with spiritual discernment today –

“The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. We observed his glory, the glory as the one and only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.”   John 1:14

“So I tell you and encourage you in the Lord’s name not to live any longer like other people in the world. Their minds are set on worthless things. 

This is to continue until all of us are united in our faith and in our knowledge about God’s Son, until we become mature, until we measure up to Christ, who is the standard. ¹⁴ Then we will no longer be little children, tossed and carried about by all kinds of teachings that change like the wind. We will no longer be influenced by people who use cunning and clever strategies to lead us astray.”  Eph 4:17,13,14

"teachings that change like the wind" - otherwise known as "new light" teachings, and are the sign of darkness.  

From a poster on reddit who is attending "Virtual Pioneer School" relating what the instructor said:

One of the things he said is, "Of course there will be new light. There's always new light, and we, as slaves, should follow through. What do they want (not sure who "they" was referring to)? That we stay wrong? That we remain in the dark?"

This is extraordinary, that a leader is admitting to the darkness in Wt.'s teachings that change like the wind.

Isa 5:20; 2 Cor 6:14; John 8:12 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isa+5%3A20%3B+2+Cor+6%3A14%3B+John+8%3A12&version=GW

The SIGN of the Son of Man

1 hour ago, BroRando said:

We do not put this forth as a “prophecy”, nor would we feel anything was wrong if 2034 came and went and nothing had happened as far the full binding of Satan and the destruction of his empire is concerned. All things are in God’s hands."

1 hour ago, BroRando said:

What does 2034 represent? The Epiphany of Christ's Presence. The Epiphany was spoken of in the same article “END OF WORLD IN 1914?" It represents that Ah-ah moment of the realization of an undergoing prophecy.

Which is it, a prophesy or not?  

"Those who guard their mouths and their tongues keep themselves from calamity"   Prov 21:23

10 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Also, prayer at the beginning and end of Bible study does not reach God, because He does not warn them (JW members) of the hidden pitfalls and hidden intentions of the one with whom they study the Bible. 

We can also turn this around to say, God does not warn the householder of hidden pitfalls and intentions of the one - (shoot up the ladder to the leaders) -  they are studying the Bible with.  

But really, God did warn us through His Word, we just didn't take note at the right time.  (Jer 14:14; Ezek 13:1-7;  Matt 7:15-18; 24:24,25; 1 John 4:1; 1 Tim 4:1,2)

"You must understand this: In the last days there will be violent periods of time. 2 People will be selfish and love money. They will brag, be arrogant, and use abusive language. They will curse their parents, show no gratitude, have no respect for what is holy, 3 and lack normal affection for their families. They will refuse to make peace with anyone. They will be slanderous, lack self-control, be brutal, and have no love for what is good. 4 They will be traitors. They will be reckless and conceited. They will love pleasure rather than God. 5 They will appear to have a godly life, but they will not let its power change them. Stay away from such people.

6 Some of these men go into homes and mislead weak-minded women who are burdened with sins and led by all kinds of desires. 7 These women are always studying but are never able to recognize the truth.

8 As Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men oppose the truth. Their minds are corrupt, and the faith they teach is counterfeit. 9 Certainly, they won’t get very far. Like the stupidity of Jannes and Jambres, their stupidity will be plain to everyone."   2 Tim 3:1-8

So, of course, organized religion would attract not only the naïve, but the traitors; who carry out the desires of deceitful wicked rulers - and the desires of their own wicked heart.  

The Sign of the End

On 9/14/2021 at 2:11 PM, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

So does the GB / leaders / Elders et al, think that the congregant that has left, is automatically 'no longer a Christian' ? 

Usually the disfellowshipped one is said to be "no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses".  If these people are the ONLY ones in the world that will receive salvation, as it is basically taught, then everyone else couldn't be considered a Christian right?  They perceive that any who leave, have no life with God,  no possibility to be redeemed unless they return.  

 w15 4/15 p. 30-31 puts it like this:   "Likewise, disfellowshipped ones who are no longer members of the Christian congregation—their spiritual family—may come to realize what they have lost. The bitter fruits of their sinful course, together with the memories of happier days when they enjoyed a good relationship with Jehovah and his people, could bring them to their senses."

There are some good historical quotes on jwfacts from past Watchtower mags and books,  on the act of disfellowshipping.  

Such as..

"Down in Goa the papers have carried notices that anyone having various books by Judge Rutherford would be excommunicated. What a bunch of mean and unmanly scallywags! Remember the blind man who was healed at the pool of Siloam, that when the man told the religious fellows where to get off they excommunicated him (John 9; 34, margin), and his parents before that had feared being put out of the synagogue by the "Jews". Isn't that the same cowardly action of the clergy in these days towards those who desire to have their eyes open and to "see"? "We'll excommunicate you!"" Consolation 1937 Nov 17 p.5

"Satan's organization sails under the high-sounding name of "Christendom". It boasts of a membership of over 500,000,000 persons. Its members are in bondage to creeds, customs, rites and ceremonies; they dare not disown these or criticize or expose them. To do so would bring down on their heads taunts, reproaches, disfellowship and persecution. Many thousands of the Lords people are held in these denominations as prisoners, afraid to express their disapproval of the creeds, methods and customs of the organization. Watchtower 1930 Oct 1 p.301"

Interesting that they say this  is a practice of "Satan's organization".  (Rev 13:1,2,4-7,10,11,12,15)

13 hours ago, Anna said:

Also, I do not think the existence of such documentation/records has ever been denied.

 

When elders are told to remove their personal notes from files regarding child abuse, and to destroy them, that is a form of denial.

One also might forget that Mormonism has a problem. 

The woman expressed, “As we have said in other investigations, what marks religious organisations out from other institutions is the explicit purpose they have in teaching right from wrong; the moral turpitude of any failing by them in the prevention of, or response to, child sexual abuse is therefore heightened.

If someone on the outside needs to remind a religion of their “moral” obligations, then, as is the case in the Wt., the religion is practicing immoral responses in the case of CSA.  

 What sets this organization apart from all other religions?  Nothing, all established religions have their roots in the world of immorality and corruption.  But the Wt. is also committing spiritual immorality as a holding ground to trample, persecute and destroy the anointed priesthood in Christ..and any who have joined them.  (Matt 24:15,16,24; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2; 13:1,2, ,5-7, 11,12,15; 16:13-16; 12:3,4,15,17)

Jesus purposefully said, worship that is approved by the Father is in “spirit and truth”, not through any earthly “mountainlike organization”.  (John 4:21-24)  He began His Temple arrangement/“organization” of anointed “living stones” in the first century. (John 2:19-21; Eph 4:4-6; 2:20-22; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17) And it will be the “mountain”/spiritual organization that will rise above all corruption and immorality.  Isa 2:1-4; Zech 4:6,7) The greatest test against these “stones” is through an earthly organization established by men, that convinces millions that it belongs to God.  How can that be, when in this document there are two pages directed to the failures of the CCJW to practice morality? In this case, the Wt. is certainly “like the nations”.  Ezek 20:32

It is time to separate from the corruption and immorality of the Wt.  Rev 18:4-8 

"For on My holy mountain, the high mountain of Israel, declares the Lord GOD, there the whole house of Israel, all of them, will serve Me in the land. There I will accept them and will require your offerings and choice gifts, along with all your holy sacrifices.

41When I bring you from the peoples and gather you from the lands to which you have been scattered, I will accept you as a pleasing aroma. And I will show My holiness through you in the sight of the nations. 42Then you will know that I am the LORD, when I bring you into the land of Israel, the land that I swore to give your fathers.

43There you will remember your ways and all the deeds with which you have defiled yourselves, and you will loathe yourselves for all the evils you have done. 44Then you will know, O house of Israel, that I am the LORD, when I have dealt with you for the sake of My name and not according to your wicked ways and corrupt acts, declares the Lord GOD.”  Ezek 20:40-44