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TTH: "The 'abuses' you site are no more than basic human needs - done 'on the cheap' to the degree possible."
Yes, so 'cheaply' that the organization bought polluted land and put their volunteers to work to clean up the toxic waste. And the purchase of this land was supposedly directed by God. What a slap in the face...unless... they bought it, hoping to make their money back in lawsuits won. Hmm, that would be another god's recommendation.
So, did they know it was polluted when they bought it? I personally believe they did.
Do they care about the future health of their volunteers who did the "dirty work"?
The "House of God" - Bethel - is built on toxic land. Well, since the true "House of God" is within the hearts of His anointed Temple, (1 Cor 3:16,17) then how fitting for Watchtower.
https://www.recordonline.com/article/20151214/NEWS/151219671
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All eyes are trained on the organization, and its need to flourish; regardless of JWs’ own physical circumstances. After Stephen Lett gave his broadcasting statement that ‘more money is going out, than coming in’, and the need for more donations, I read one woman’s comment admitting she needed to put a tighter reign on her budget in order to donate more to the organization. She was willing to sacrifice her few family’s personal pleasures to satisfy the GB’s wishes – men who live comfortably and lack nothing.
This is absolute robbery by persuasion. In the meantime, men have been chosen to attend universities and receive a lawyer’s degree, also to assure the organization’s ability to flourish. But I’ve said all this before.
God doesn’t need anything, as Acts 17:24,25 points out. Organizations are always in need, so what or who do JWs love more? Who’s wishes are more respected; God’s, or men who love their organization and expect you to do the same?
Now when the people saw that Moses delayed coming down from the mountain, the people gathered together to Aaron, and said to him, “Come, make us gods that shall go before us; for as for this Moses, the man who brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we do not know what has become of him.”
2 And Aaron said to them, “Break off the golden earrings which are in the ears of your wives, your sons, and your daughters, and bring them to me.” 3 So all the people broke off the golden earrings which were in their ears, and brought them to Aaron. 4 And he received the gold from their hand, and he fashioned it with an engraving tool, and made a molded calf.
Then they said, “This is your god, O Israel, that brought you out of the land of Egypt!”
5 So when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it. And Aaron made a proclamation and said, “Tomorrow is a feast to the Lord.” 6 Then they rose early on the next day, offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play. Exod 32:1-6
“May each of us stick to God, keep pace with his people, and continue to move ahead with Jehovah’s organization.” WT 14/5/15
“…gods that shall go before us” – “…move ahead with Jehovah’s organization”
“…a feast to the Lord” - “…stick to God”
From the same article:
“My early experience taught me how unsound it is to rely on human reasoning. Once my mind had been resolved on that point, I determined to stay by the faithful organization. How else can one get Jehovah’s favor and blessing?”
How else? John 14:6; Acts 4:12
And the Lord said to Moses, “Go, get down! For your people whom you brought out of the land of Egypt have corrupted themselves. 8 They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them. They have made themselves a molded calf, and worshiped it and sacrificed to it, and said, ‘This is your god, O Israel, that brought you out of the land of Egypt!’ ” 9 And the Lord said to Moses, “I have seen this people, and indeed it is a stiff-necked people!” Exod 32:7-9
41 And they made a calf in those days, offered sacrifices to the idol, and rejoiced in the works of their own hands.
“However, the Most High does not dwell in temples made with hands, as the prophet says”
“You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you” Acts 7:41,48,51
So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? (“How else can one get Jehovah’s favor and blessing?”) Who is able to make war with him?” Rev 13:4
And all the world marveled and followed the beast. Rev 13:3b (“move ahead with Jehovah’s organization”)
This “beast” symbolically “kills” all who reject it as “spirit-directed”, as belonging to God, per instructions from a false prophet.
15 He was granted power to give breath (spirit) to the image of the beast, (“Jehovah’s spirit-directed organization”) that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. Rev 13:15
“What kind of offenses are regarded as disfellowshiping offenses? These include persistence in sexual offenses, stealing, lying, dishonest business practices, rebellion against Jehovah’s organization, slandering, drunkenness, apostasy, teaching of false doctrine and other wrongs. W 63/7/1 p. 410-411
The apostles never admired, or put their trust and faith in an earthly organization. They spoke of Christ as salvation, as sent to us by the Father. You speak these words about Christ, but fail to grasp them. The apostles taught of the unity of the anointed Body of Christ and its blessings in the Kingdom. They taught that any earthly endeavors contradict Christ’s message. Phil 3:18,19
How JWs have been fooled. 2 Thess 2:9-12
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7 hours ago, divergenceKO said:
I would imagine Brother Russell would have appreciated your stance on consecrated ground. Does that mean we should revere all churches as the Holy of Hollies places of God?
Nope. I gave the answer to what is "good", according to the Father:
"you yourselves, as living stones, a spiritual house, are being built to be a holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ."
"But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his possession, so that you may proclaim the praises of the one who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. " 1 Pet 2:5,9
"Don’t you yourselves know that you are God’s temple and that the Spirit of God lives in you?" 1 Cor 3:16
"built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building, being put together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22 In him you are also being built together for God’s dwelling in the Spirit."
"And they sang a new song:
You are worthy to take the scroll
and to open its seals,
because you were slaughtered,
and you purchased people
for God by your blood
from every tribe and language
and people and nation.You made them a kingdom
and priests to our God,
and they will reign on the earth." Rev 5:9,10“The one who conquers I will make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will never go out again. I will write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God—the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from my God—and my new name." Rev 3:12
"I did not see a temple in it, because the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. 23 The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, because the glory of God illuminates it, and its lamp is the Lamb. 24 The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it." Rev 21:22-24
"And what agreement does the temple of God have with idols? For we are the temple of the living God, as God said: I will dwell and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people."
On 9/21/2019 at 5:34 AM, Witness said:In your organization, you house the "good" - the true Temple of God, which has been rejected for the same treasures the world has. Hag 1:4; Dan 7:21; 8:11,23-25; Rev 13:7,10
The true Temple, the "spiritual house", the "whole building" is God's. He does not require the dedication of earthly buildings using the world's assets. I hope JWs can let these scriptures sink into the brain and heart:
However, the Most High [the One infinitely exalted above humanity] does not dwell in houses (temple/shrine/sanctuary) made by human hands; as the prophet [Isaiah] says,
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‘Heaven is My throne,
And the earth is the footstool for My feet;
What kind of house (any dwelling place/home/tabernacle/tent) will you build for Me?’ says the Lord,
‘Or what place is there for My rest? Acts 7:48-50"The God who created the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands; nor is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, because it is He who gives to all [people] life and breath and all things." Acts 17:24,25
Does God need buildings dedicated to Him? No. Does He want buildings dedicated to Him? No. If men in their arrogance decide to dedicate their building accomplishment to God, He won't dwell in them anyway. His Spirit will not be found in a building, because men's ideals and accomplishments transgress His word.
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On 9/20/2019 at 10:20 PM, JW Insider said:
So even if chronology and some of the specific prophetic interpretations can result in unresolved questions, for now, it's not like this needs to be such a big part of Witness thinking. We can participate in every major aspect of our worship with joy and without being overly concerned with these unresolved questions. And when they finally are resolved, I'm sure we'll see them as relatively unimportant compared to the big things.
If a specific prophetic interpretation is what people are encouraged to put all hope and dreams in (such as 1975). just to find out that they were misled into believing its possibility as true, no longer will many enjoy their “worship” in all other aspects the organization offers. That particular scenario remains “important” to a large number of people because of the scar it leaves on their lives. Scars usually always remain as a memory of an event. The bigger the scar, the bigger the memory. When a person makes an investment into a company that utilizes slick, appealing - even truthful - advertising, and which promises positive returns but eventually is exposed as a fraud, only a foolish person would keep investing his resources into it.
“Bad investment advice is usually due to one of two reasons. The first is centered around an advisor that will repeatedly place their self-interest before that of the client. The second reason leading to bad advice is an advisor's lack of knowledge and failure to perform due diligence before making recommendations and taking action. Each type of bad advice has its own consequences for the client in the short term, but in the long term they will all result in poor performance or loss of money.” (Investopedia)
This is what the Lord of Hosts says: “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you. They are making you worthless. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the Lord’s mouth. Jer 23:16
It is said, “talk is cheap”; which is actually a partial quote. From, The Saint’s Knowledge of Christ’s Love, or The Unsearchable Riches of Christ published in 1692:
“I know words are cheap, but a dram of grace is worth all the world.”
"I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you today that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Choose life so that you and your descendants may live, love the Lord your God, obey Him, and remain faithful to Him. " Deut 30:19,20
It's crystal clear in God's word, that we are not to remain faithful to men who stumble in their predictions, but intermittently gloss it over with appealing information like a dangling carrot.
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Just minutes before dawn a week ago, I drove a couple of miles down the highway to care for the mixed flock of chickens, ducks and geese. They were waiting impatiently for their doors to swing open, allowing them to embrace the new day. As I passed the tall trees lining the roadway, the mountain came into view revealing a full moon, suspended just above the mountain’s summit. Against the softened blues of the early sky, it glowed with such intense brightness that I was taken aback by its pristine beauty. In the clear morning air, it radiated a brilliant white, enhanced by the rising of the sun. The moon and sun seemed to mutually work together; to bring light, hope and life to the new day dawning. I do hope many of you here also had a chance during the last few days, to enjoy the moon’s beauty in your area.
The sun, moon and stars of the heavens hold symbolic spiritual meaning during these last days, in reference to the anointed remnant. Rev 22:16; Ps 89:37; Rev 1:20 Upon witnessing the moon’s vivid white light that morning, I thought of the “woman” covenant/promise, fulfilled as the Bride of Christ, and bringing life to God’s children in the Kingdom. Rev 7:13,14; 12:1; Gal 4:26,24; Rom 8:21; Rev 21:2,3;22:17
Yet, before the birth of God’s Kingdom, those under the New Covenant in Christ who are to reflect the light and truth of the sun, of Jesus Christ, reside in the darkness of captivity. (John 8:12; Matt 5:16) Rev 12:2; 12:17; Luke 21:24; Dan 7:25; Rev 13:7,10
God “sends” or allows this captivity, at Satan’s demand to sift them as “wheat”. Luke 22:31; Col 2:8;2 Thess 2:11,12; Rev 13:9,10; 16:13,14
Their illuminating power as a “lamp”/”star” representing Christ, is brought to nothing. Matt 5:14,15; Phil 2:15; Joel 2:10; Dan 12:7
Under a deceitful ruse, known as “Jehovah’s organization”, comprised of an army that every JW must listen to and respect as an authority over them, the symbolic light of the moon is vanquished. No priestly “star” is able to initiate personal sacrifices to God; no anointed one can speak the light of truth from their heart, but only what a false priesthood “serves” as spiritual food provided by a fallen star/false prophet. Rev 13:7; 2 Thess 2:4; Dan 8:10,11; Rev 8:10,11; 13:14,17
“But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken." Matt 24:29
Under this siege, God’s anointed alone are not powerful enough to ward off the army of immense size and strength; which tramples down their sacrifices, their voice, their position as God’s Temple priesthood, and any truth from their heart they may have to offer. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Isa 63:18; Jer 12:10; Dan 11:31; Matt 24:15; Rev 11:1,2;20:7-9
Jesus does not abandon his priesthood of “living stones” in their debased condition, but sends an “Elijah” to open the eyes of the captive, alerting them of their deathly state. Matt 19:25,26; Ps 94:17
The work of "Elijah" preaches a restoration of the bond between God's elect,
and their Fathers (Matt.17:11; Luke1:16-17; Isa.61:3-4).Without the restoration of those bonds...
demonic teachings, cloudy eyes, lying hands, darkness, wormwood waters, sin, and death,
(1Tim.4:1; Rev.16:14-16; 2:20; 13:11,15; Amos 5:18,20)will take away all the "earth"/homeland of God.
This is why Jesus causes these "two witnesses" to prophesy (Rev.11:3),
for the sake of a late crop/remnant
(Rev.20:5; Amos7:1; Rev.7:9,13-14; Isa.1:9; 37:32; Ezra 9:8; Eze.14:22; Luke13:23-24; Matt.24:22; 19:25-26; Isa.37:32)which still contains a blessing (Isa.65:8; Joel 2:14) (John15:4-5; Luke21:36; 12:37; Prov.1:23).
Pearl Doxsey
Yet, the moon symbolically turns to blood when the “two witnesses” are “killed” for their testimony to truth. John 16:2;Rev 11:3,7; 18:24; 12:10,11
“The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.” Joel 2:31“ I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red” Rev 6:12
This “killing” is performed by the Beast organization/counterfeit priesthood, who are guided to do so by its false prophet/Harlot. Acts 2:20; Rev 11:3,7;13:15;17:6
Please examine carefully, 1Cor.15:25: "For ***he must reign until*** he has put all his enemies under his feet.".
-- Do you see from this last scripture, that Jesus is reigning while his enemies are being subdued?
-- But the Bible tells us of a time, when Jesus is no longer subduing his enemies (The Great Tribulation), because his Temple is being "trampled by Gentiles",
the heavenly luminaries "sun", "moon", and "stars" are darkened, and "the power of the holy ones is brought to nothing"
(Dan.12:7; 7:25; 8:13; 11:16,22,31-37; 2Thess.2:4; Rev.11:2; 13:7,10; Luke 21:24)All this was prophesied to occur, due to Satan's release from the abyss, the outpouring of demonic spirits, lying signs, and wonders; the fall of "wormwood" (Rev.8:10-11; 9:1; Isa.14:12-13; Rev.2:5; 2Pet.3:17), and her releasing the locust-scorpion army from the abyss (Rev.9:2-3; Joel 2:2; Jer.13:16).
That is the "hour" in which Michael must stand up for his people(Dan.12:1; Rev.12:7) to save the remnant (the Great Crowd), and bring the demonic powers of
the man-of-lawlessness (the Wild Beast),
and the false prophet (last Harlot)
and Satan himself,
to nothing (2Thess.2:8; Rev.20:9-10; Dan.8:24-25).-------- Yes, the thousand years have come and gone.
We are in the Great Tribulation and Armageddon since Satan's release (Rev.20:7-8; 16:13-16; 1Tim.4:1)and his giving the key to the abyss, to the fallen star, wormwood (Rev.8:10-11; 9:1-3,11)
Pearl Doxsey
At this time period, the anointed Temple members (1 Cor 3:16,17) will either sacrifice their life for Christ’s truth when standing up against the Beast; or for lies coming from this delusional idol, that marks them as its own. Rev 6:9; 13:16; 14:9-11
When you have a moment, read Isaiah chapter 29 which describes God’s priesthood today in the organization. “Ariel” signifies not only “Jerusalem”, but specifically in this chapter, the altar of sacrifice. Rev 6:9; Mark 8:35
Sadly, as the chapter relates, the majority of God’s priests sit in silence, spiritually depriving themselves of Christ’s offer of spiritual riches. Rev 3:18-22 They are secluded from the understanding of Revelation’s scrolls concerning them, as well as their companions. Dan 12:1,3,4; Rev 22:10; 10:7 They have not joined the Marriage Feast of the Lamb and cannot see the authentic promised blessings to soon come, in the Kingdom of God. Matt 22:8-10 They see only an illusory depiction of peace and “paradise”, painted by deceitful men. 1 Thess 5:3
There is still time, though, to leave slavery to men and their idol behind; and be fed spiritual understanding of this time period of confusion and suffering, that God’s people have been subjected to. Rev 18:4-8 Through God’s saving grace, redemption and the light of life is bestowed on those who desire truth. Eph 5:8-14; Isa 45:15-17,22-24; 48:20
17 In a very short time, will not Lebanon be turned into a fertile field
and the fertile field seem like a forest?
18 In that day the deaf will hear the words of the scroll,
and out of gloom and darkness
the eyes of the blind will see.
19 Once more the humble will rejoice in the Lord;
the needy will rejoice in the Holy One of Israel.
20 The ruthless will vanish,
the mockers will disappear,
and all who have an eye for evil will be cut down—
21 those who with a word make someone out to be guilty,
who ensnare the defender in court
and with false testimony deprive the innocent of justice.22 Therefore this is what the Lord, who redeemed Abraham, says to the descendants of Jacob:
“No longer will Jacob be ashamed;
no longer will their faces grow pale.
23 When they see among them their children,
the work of my hands,
they will keep my name holy;
they will acknowledge the holiness of the Holy One of Jacob,
and will stand in awe of the God of Israel.
24 Those who are wayward in spirit will gain understanding;
those who complain will accept instruction.” Isa 29:17-24Articles by Pearl Doxsey, 4womaninthewilderness blogspot
Who is to Blame?
World-Earth-Home
Earth Swallows Satan’s River
“Two Witnesses” – “Lampstands”
The Greatest Tribulation – What and Why?
Mark of the Beast
Who is the Destroyer?
What is the Thousand Years?
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@salomon, I would love to hear more of YOUR thoughts, and less of the governing body's thoughts.
Considering Korah...
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Jesus never backed down when it came to speaking truth. His anointed must also, always, speak truth. When your governing body tells a lie, would Christ expect his anointed priests to be silent? Or...should they follow his footsteps and speak truth also? Jesus said,
“I have told you these things to keep you from stumbling. 2 They will ban you from the synagogues. In fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering service to God. 3 They will do these things because they haven’t known the Father or Me. John 16:1-3
Many anointed and companions are "banned"/disfellowshipped from the synagogues ("congregations") for speaking against your leaders' lies. This isn't pride, this is being faithful to scripture, to God and to Christ.
Disfellowshipping is a spiritual "killing". Should spiritual brothers be "killing" spiritual brothers". Your GB expect it. They silence their own anointed brothers.
"Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand." Rom 14:4
"Do not be like Cain, who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own actions were evil and his brother’s were righteous." 1 John 3:12
Jesus was killed by his people; the governing body "kill" their own people who listen to Jesus, and not to men. Rev 13:15
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CORRECTION:
Concerning this quote:
What is the “good news” to be preached in the last days? Is it based on the year 1914 when the organization claims the “conclusion of this system of things” began? In a very recent magazine, 1919 is taught to be the year that a line of demarcation was established between the anointed “spirit sons of Zion” and all of Christendom.
It is derived from…
w14 11/15 p. 26-27 “Now You are God’s People”
11 “The conclusion of the system of things” began in 1914. During the war that broke out that year, the few thousand anointed Christians, “the sons of the Kingdom,” were in spiritual captivity to Babylon the Great. In 1919, Jehovah delivered them, making a clear distinction between them and “the weeds,” or imitation Christians. He gathered “the sons of the Kingdom” into an organized people, in fulfillment of Isaiah’s prophecy: “Will a land be brought to birth in one day? Or will a nation be born all at once? Yet, as soon as Zion went into labor, she gave birth to her sons.” (Isa. 66:8) Zion, Jehovah’s organization of spirit beings, brought forth her spirit-anointed sons and organized them into a nation.
It is followed by a subheading entitled, "We Want to Go With You". There is a study article with that title from January, 2016. When I saw the subheading that followed with the title, “We Want to Go With You”, I inadvertently thought of the article from the 1/2016 WT article with that same title. Jan 1/16 pg 22-27 This is where I messed up, of which I am very sorry if I have confused anyone trying to research my source.
It is in that article that the anointed are told not to bond together. (Par. 😎 Elders are mentioned as those who take the lead. This is expected obedience to the elders. The very words alone telling the anointed not to bond together is one of “lording it over” God’s people.
Quote: Modestly, anointed ones acknowledge that they do not necessarily have more holy spirit than those with an earthly hope. They do not claim to have special knowledge or revelations; neither do they try to prove that they are in some way superior.
SMH.... These are slanderous words of a Harlot and its helpers – the elder body, sitting in, ruling over, the Temple of God. Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3
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10 hours ago, salomon said:
No imperfect human can set himself up as a judge of others.
“Judicial” definition - of or relating to a judgment, the function of judging, the administration of justice, or the judiciary.
Have you heard the term “Judicial committee”? What is its main goal, but to judge another as acceptable before God? Aren’t the elders, whom the GB has set up to judge others, imperfect men? Matt 24:48-51
10 hours ago, salomon said:8 Parler contre un autre chrétien est un péché (Jacques 4:11, 12).
"8 To speak against another Christian is a sin (James 4:11, 12)."
To speak against another who desires to follow Christ as a true Christian; not following men, not a GB…but Christ and the Father; the elder body judges this individual as spiritually dead, by disfellowshipping them. This isn’t because the individual has sinned against scripture, but transgressed doctrine of an organization.
Who is it, that has sinned?
Elders are not gods; yet, they readily disfellowship God’s anointed priesthood/Temple (1 Cor 3:16,17) for listening to their Master, Jesus Christ. This is sinning against the Holy Spirit. Matt 6:24; Matt 12:31-33; Luke 12:10-12
They disfellowship individuals who turn to Christ, or see failed doctrine announced over the years by an organization, and refuse to accept it. They have even disfellowshipped victims of child abuse.
From your quote:
“Some are critical of their companions because they think they are more righteous than they are, or want to rise by lowering others (Psalm 50:20, Proverbs 3:29). The Greek term 'talk against' carries the idea of hostility and implies a false or exaggerated accusation. This amounts to bringing an unfavorable judgment against a brother. How is it to speak against the law and judge the law of God? Let us remember that the scribes and Pharisees 'skilfully set aside the commandment of God' and judged according to their own standards (Mark 7: 1-13)”
Yes, this is what the organization is known for. Rev 13:15 It is God’s Word that judges such individuals, as the WT has utilized:
Psalm 50:20 "You sit and testify against your brother
and slander your own mother’s son."Proverbs 3:29 "Do not plot harm against your neighbor,
who lives trustfully near you."Matt 7:1-13 The Pharisees and some of the teachers of the law who had come from Jerusalem gathered around Jesus 2 and saw some of his disciples eating food with hands that were defiled, that is, unwashed. 3 (The Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they give their hands a ceremonial washing, holding to the tradition of the elders. 4 When they come from the marketplace they do not eat unless they wash. And they observe many other traditions, such as the washing of cups, pitchers and kettles.[a])
5 So the Pharisees and teachers of the law asked Jesus, “Why don’t your disciples live according to the tradition of the elders instead of eating their food with defiled hands?”
6 He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written:
“‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
7 They worship me in vain;
their teachings are merely human rules.’8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”
9 And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’ and, ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ 11 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is Corban (that is, devoted to God)— 12 then you no longer let them do anything for their father or mother. 13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”
Pearl Doxsey - "What is the Worst Sin the Watchtower Has Done?" 4womaninthewilderness blogspot
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9 hours ago, Anna said:
Everything that is good belongs to God.
Everything that man considers good, or what God considers good?
"Do not love the world or anything that belongs to the world. If you love the world, you do not love the Father. 16 Everything that belongs to the world—what the sinful self desires, what people see and want, and everything in this world that people are so proud of—none of this comes from the Father; it all comes from the world. 17 The world and everything in it that people desire is passing away; but those who do the will of God live forever." 1 John 2:15-17
“Stop storing up treasures for yourselves on earth, where moths and rust destroy and thieves break in and steal. 20 Instead, store up treasures for yourselves in heaven, where moths and rust don’t destroy and thieves don’t break in and steal. 21 Your heart will be where your treasure is." Matt 6:19-21
"These people have exchanged God’s truth for a lie. So they have become ungodly and serve what is created rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen!" Rom 1:25
The early temple was approved by God as the place to worship. Since the temple is now the Body of Christ, there is no other approved earthly place of worship, according to GOD, since Christ has said we worship in spirit and truth. John 4:24 His Temple, house of "worship" is Zion, built with "living stones". 1 Pet 2:5,9
You are built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets. Christ Jesus himself is the cornerstone. 21 In him all the parts of the building fit together and grow into a holy temple in the Lord. 22 Through him you, also, are being built in the Spirit together with others into a place where God lives. Eph 2:20-22
Scripture refers to the faithful sealed anointed as "trees". Matt 7:18; Ezek 47:12; Rev 11:4; 22:2 In the organization, these "trees" and the spirit God has poured into their heart, are replaced with desires of men to build their own "temples" - housed with their own choice of priests. Dan 8:11
"What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.” 2 Cor 6:16
“The glory of Lebanon will come to you,
the juniper, the fir and the cypress together,
to adorn my sanctuary;
and I will glorify the place for my feet. (Isa 66:1,2; Ps 132:7-9)
14 The children of your oppressors will come bowing before you; (Rev 3:9)
all who despise you will bow down at your feet
and will call you the City of the Lord,
Zion of the Holy One of Israel.15 “Although you have been forsaken and hated,
with no one traveling through,
I will make you the everlasting pride
and the joy of all generations." Isa 60:13-15There is no difference in what the organization has done in building its empire, than any other religious entity that dedicates, consecrates buildings to God; such as the Catholic Church, or the Mormons and their temples, Islam and its mosques. Those are considered "good". In your organization, you house the "good" - the true Temple of God, which has been rejected for the same treasures the world has. Hag 1:4; Dan 7:21; 8:11,23-25; Rev 13:7,10
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7 hours ago, Outta Here said:
Thinking that the fabric of a building should be used in perpetuity for that same purpose as if it was somehow made "holy" by that dedication is unreasonable .
If a building is called “God’s House” would it be considered holy? If it were truly “God’s House”, then His Spirit would dwell there and yes, it would be “holy”. If a parent tells his child at the kingdom hall that “this is God’s House”, as a JW video already explains to children, wouldn’t they learn to have a reverential awe for that building?
Does God agree with these dedications and the christening of a kingdom hall /assembly hall as His House? I believe JWs cannot fathom what God would think of such a thing, even if it is a building of temporary use. It is as if God is no where to be heard, no where to give His opinion on what man do, although He certainly has through the scriptures. So let’s do it, call it dedicated to God, then sell it off! God will understand our disregarding all scriptures concerning anything built by the hands of men. Acts 7:49-51; 17:24,25
He has a “building”, He has a spiritual dwelling. 1 Pet 2:5,9; Eph 2:20-22; 1 Cor 3:16,17; John 2:19-21 He has made it clear with the advent of His Son that there is only one “temple”/”building” that He accepts as His. It was a major point of Jesus’ coming; earthly structures to house God’s Spirit were to be abolished. He is building His House on the anointed Body of Christ. 1 Cor 3:9 Why would He want any building dedicated to Him that has its source in Satan’s world? James 3:15
This is called spiritual immorality. It is practiced by false prophets – “harlots” who do exactly what they want and still claim to worship God. Rev 13:11,15; 16:13,14; 17:1,15
If JWs were to recognize the importance of God’s “building”, they would not dare dedicate any earthly building to Him. Instead, God’s temple/priesthood is trampled down by such teachings spoken from a Harlot, and supported by her “man of lawlessness”. Matt 24:48-51; 2 Thess 2:1-4; 9-12; Rev 13:1,2,4-7 So, your leaders dedicate buildings to “Jehovah”. They raise the excitement in all in attendance. It is a blessing from God! I would guess just about everyone in such an audience has no idea what the true dedicated House/Temple of God really is, thanks to the GB Harlots.
What God has said about His Son and His “living stones” (1 Pet 2:5,9) apparently means nothing. Jer 4:22 And instead, JWs believe an organization and all of its buildings will lead them into the Kingdom. IT holds primary importance for one's salvation.
So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”
5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If anyone has an ear, let him hear. Rev 13:4-9
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Luke 12:1 - In the meantime, when an innumerable multitude of people had gathered together, so that they trampled one another, He began to say to His disciples first of all, “Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy."
2 Pet 2:1-3 There were indeed false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, and will bring swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved ways, and the way of truth will be maligned because of them. 3 They will exploit you in their greed with made-up stories. Their condemnation, pronounced long ago, is not idle, and their destruction does not sleep.
Matt 24:24 For false messiahs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
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Well, thank you for all those Watchtower quotes! There are misconceptions to address, a few in particular is that Zion is God’s “wife”. The only “wife” in Zion (God's Temple) is the Bride – the Lamb’s Wife. 1 Cor 6:17; Matt 19:6; Eph 5:23, 25-27,30; Rev 21:2,3; 5:9,10
Being as a “wife” to God is compared to a marriage promise/covenant. Hos 9:1; 1:2; Jer 3:8,14 It is not an organization in heaven.
When we “eat” the flesh of Jesus Christ, (John 6:53) this is not restricted to the anointed only. It has nothing to do with partaking of the emblems. He is referring to the Word of truth that all of us must take in to receive life. John 6:55,47-50; 17:3,17
2 Tim 3:15 - and you know that from infancy you have known the sacred Scriptures, which are able to give you wisdom for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
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6 hours ago, Arauna said:
So to me it is natural , due to the times, that brothers would interpret scriptures in the same way as society. Reflect the conservative values if society.
Makes sense, except for their view of the ruling kings and priests. I believe society has surpassed their determined viewpoint. It's all about man power.
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4 hours ago, salomon said:
Sans la Bible, il serait impossible de connaître Jéhovah, pas plus que les merveilleux avantages découlant du sacrifice rédempteur de Christ; sans cela, il ne serait pas non plus possible de comprendre les conditions à remplir pour obtenir la vie éternelle dans le royaume juste de Dieu ou sous son règne.
Yes, you are right. The Bible is God’s Word, the Word is the Logos, the Logos is Christ. John 1:1,2 Go one step further, and listen to Christ’s teachings on how we are to “know” God. It is through Christ. He is much more than an example to imitate. He is our only personal path, to draw close to the Father.
While he was still speaking, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them; and suddenly a voice came out of the cloud, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Hear Him!”Matt 17:5
How can we hear Christ if we do not listen to his words that tell us we must come to him, to know the Father? John 8:19
John 6:37 – “All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.”
And, how can we believe in someone, if we don’t get to know him?
John 3:16,36 – “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.”
He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”
With Jesus,
We hear him
We get to know him
We believe in him
We realize that by doing so, we will then, “know” the Father. Should we resist getting to know Christ?
But look:
“No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.” John 6:44
God knows our hearts and our desires…and our fears. If we block our heart and mind from personally getting to know Christ, will we ever be drawn to him by the Father? Can men tell us NOT to get to know Christ intimately? Yes, your leaders have. 2 Cor 11:4
"He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day.” John 12:48
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6 hours ago, salomon said:
The recognition coming from the heart is what matters most. To develop this quality, we must learn to know God. Jesus Christ said, "This signifies everlasting life, that they may come to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ." (John 17: 3) We must continue to absorb this knowledge; it is not enough to believe that God exists and to know some of the things He has done as a Creator. There is a big difference between having some knowledge of God and knowing him. Knowing God means much more than having superficial knowledge about Him. By continually seeking to increase our knowledge, we come to appreciate wholeheartedly how Jehovah is the friend of humanity and how he has manifested this friendship with incomparable love and patience.
This means eternal life: that they learn to know you (John 17: 3).
The Greek expression translated "learn to know" can also be rendered by "should continue to know". It therefore designates a continuous process that leads to the privileged condition of the one who "knows" God. But knowing the greatest character in the universe is more than having a clear idea of his qualities and purpose. It is to tie a close bond of love with him and with those who believe in him. "He who does not love, explains the Bible, did not get to know God"w13 15/10 4:7.I do not see in this Watchtower comment, the avenue we must take to know God; of which I am not surprised. Jesus is the Word, the Bread of Life. John 1:1 John 17:3 is part of the prayer of Jesus to the Father.
“Father, the hour has come! Glorify Your Son, in order that Your Son may glorify You— 2 just as You have given him authority over all flesh, in order that he would give eternal life to them—everyone whom You have given him. 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent. 4 I have glorified You on earth bycompleting the work that you have given me to do. 5 And now, Father, You glorify me at Your side with the glory that I had at Your side before the world existed.
Righteous Father, although the world does not know You, yet I have known You, and these men have come to know that You sent me. 26 And I made known to them Your name, and will make it known, in order that the love with which You loved me may be in them, and I may be in them.”
The “world” that did not know Jesus Christ were his people who rejected him, the very ones who said they “knew” God. John 1:10 They had a “superficial knowledge” of Him; yet never attained the true knowledge of God, since they did not accept Jesus Christ.
Then they said to Him, “Where is Your Father?” Jesus answered, “You know neither Me nor My Father. If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also.” John 8:19
To his disciples:
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
7 “If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.”
8 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.”
9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. 11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.” John 14:6-11
If we do not accept the “Bread of Life” that God offers us in His Son, we will never learn to know God. We will never learn the knowledge of truth. 2 Tim 3:7
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"Be careful to follow every command I am giving you today, so that you may live and increase and may enter and possess the land the Lord promised on oath to your ancestors. 2 Remember how the Lord your God led you all the way in the wilderness these forty years, to humble and test you in order to know what was in your heart, whether or not you would keep his commands. 3 He humbled you, causing you to hunger and then feeding you with manna, which neither you nor your ancestors had known, to teach you that man does not live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of the Lord. Deut 8:1-3
Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty.
For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”
45 It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from Him comes to me. 46 No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father. 47 Very truly I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life. I am the bread of life. 49 Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, yet they died. 50 But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.” John 6: 35,40,45-51
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On 9/2/2019 at 1:58 PM, Jack Ryan said:
Not being sexist.
If the Governing Body want to interpret it so literally, it should only be virgin men according to revelation
Maybe (in secret) they are interpreting it literally. It was just brought to my attention; when has anyone seen one of the “144,000” portrayed as female in WT pictures?
Samuel Herd made mention once, that women’s brains are 10 percent smaller than men. Obviously, he can’t envision women ruling as “kings” and priests in the Kingdom. Gal 3:28; Rev 5:9,10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9cGBPvfOYI
And, in this picture, these guys are all clones of each other.
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21 minutes ago, Sean Migos said:
This is what Jehovah's witnesses should be familiar with. Just as Scripture stipulates to think like God, we should think like the Governing Body. Walk a mile.
Oh my. It would be life threatening to think like the GB; to walk in their shoes, taking their twisted path of continually seeking "new light", and prominence over their spiritual brothers. Matt 24:48-51 That would be glorifying men; and you've taken it up another notch by suggesting our thinking should not only be like God, but like the GB. Simply, blasphemy.
We should think like Christ. We should walk only his path. 1 Cor 2:16; 1 Pet 2:21
A voice of one calling:
“In the wilderness prepare
the way for the Lord;
make straight in the desert
a highway for our God.
4 Every valley shall be raised up,
every mountain and hill made low;
the rough ground shall become level,
the rugged places a plain.
5 And the glory of the Lord will be revealed,
and all people will see it together.
For the mouth of the Lord has spoken.” Isa 40:3-5 -
12 hours ago, Sean Migos said:
I won’t dignify a response when the opposition believe they have inherited some kind of truth by the God of this world.
Not being inspired or infallible then becomes a different position from the one given by this dedicated opposition. The GB actions seem to prevail on not accepting anything “inspired” by evil works. Can the same be said about the opposition? 1 John 5:19
Can anyone claim infallibility aside from Christ? Weren’t all of the first century Christians infallible? Were they not chosen by Jesus to continue his fine work? I don’t see where this argument can be applied.
I will not hold an endless debate with those that oppose the org. I’m looking for meaningful and structured alliances with spiritually awake individuals.
For the true "newbies" out there:
We are told to “test the spirits to see whether they are from God”. 1 John 4:1 This is our responsibility as Christians. Jesus gave us guidelines to know if an anointed one speaks from the Spirit of Christ or from another spirit. He told us that by their fruits, their teachings, we would know if one is inspired by the Spirit of Truth. Those who remain in Christ would produce fruit that “lasts”, that remains, just as the teachings of Christ have remained to this day.
You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you. John 15:16
This means one’s teachings would not rot away, or be changed out for new “truth”. It’s a pretty simple guideline that we can either embrace, or blindly ignore. If we choose to ignore it and eat “fruit”/teachings from an anointed one that has a history of producing failed, “rotten” teachings, then…we make Jesus out to be a liar. Matt 7:17-19 We put more stock in what men say, than what Christ has told us.
To receive “God’s instructions” would require inspiration from Holy Spirit. Yet, this is what your GB stated, and how they lean on a fabrication called “beliefs clarified” to justify their rotten fruit.
The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction. In fact, the Watch Tower Publications Index includes the heading “Beliefs Clarified,” which lists adjustments in our Scriptural understanding since 1870. Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food. w17 February p. 26-27
Was God instructing your leaders in these failed doctrines? Would Christ who is Truth, produce imperfection? Ps 18:30; John 14:6
This statement certainly demeans Jesus Christ’s teachings, since he did say a faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food that would last, as long as that one “remains” on the vine. John 15:1-4; Luke 8:15
"Don't work for the food that perishes (that needs continual adjustment) but for the food that lasts for eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set his seal of approval on him." John 6:27
So, the “opposition” would be making excuses for his failed teachings, and convincing the majority with false promises that no matter what, Jesus will give his approval. We know from scripture that this isn’t the case.
“Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for a tree is known by its fruit. 34 Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. 35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. 36 But I say to you that for every idle word (“inactive,useless”) men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.” Matt 12:33-37
Good things from the heart of an anointed one, are “good fruit”, that remains. “Evil things” are deceiving, “rotten fruit” that an “evil slave” would expect one to tolerate – with no questions asked.
We choose to uphold Christ’s teachings about testing each bit of “fruit” offered us by anointed ones, or we listen to men who can have a negative influence on our spirituality by failing to provide lasting fruit/teachings. If 8 men, who have convinced you they are “faithful” and “discreet”, but are not faithful to these simple guidelines given us by Jesus Christ, then their “inspiration” is from another spirit. They have lost God’s Spirit. Matt 24:24; 2 Pet 3:17,18; 1 John 2:19 The apostles were led by Holy Spirit because they were “inspired”, and they acted upon it. Holy Spirit cannot continue to “dwell” in an anointed one’s heart and not inspire them also…to speak truth, as defined by God, and not men. 1 Cor 3:16,17; 2 Cor 6:16; 1 Thess 4:7,8; 2 Tim 1:14
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“This good news of the kingdom will be proclaimed in all the inhabited earth, as a testimony to all nations. And then the end will come.” Matt 24:14
What is the “good news” to be preached in the last days? Is it based on the year 1914 when the organization claims the “conclusion of this system of things” began? In a very recent magazine, 1919 is taught to be the year that a line of demarcation was established between the anointed “spirit sons of Zion” and all of Christendom.
The WT leaders preach that Isa 66:8 has been fulfilled.
Who has heard such a thing?
Who has seen such things?
Shall the earth be made to give birth in one day?
Or shall a nation be born at once?
For as soon as Zion was in labor,
She gave birth to her children.If Zion, where the law of the Lord “will go out”, (Isa 2:2-4) has given birth to an earthly organization, and authentic peace reigns within it, (1 Thess 5:3) why does the organization find itself in the news more dramatically with each passing day, for challenging the laws of the land? Why are victims of abuse experienced within the organization’s walls, revisiting their pain suffered during their time as members of this fabricated Zion? Why is the organization being called into account for their hidden sins that those in the world notice; an organization that has the highest turnover rate of any established religion? (Matt 13:31,32)
I was startled to realize that this most recent information regarding Zion, is the same magazine that states the “spirit sons”/anointed ones must obey the elder body. They must not bond together to consider God’s Word, but remain quiet and submissive; fully integrated into the congregation with no real distinction of who they are. What “law” of God permits such opinion? None! Ezekiel’s words apply today - there is no distinction or demarcation “between the holy and the common”; between God’s Temple priesthood, and the population of JWs. (Ezek 22:23-29)
Who or what comprises the authentic Zion? Going back to Isaiah 66 quoted in the magazine, verse 1,2 explains that it isn’t an earthly organization with its buildings and investments, thought to bring God’s approval, but it is the “spirit sons” of God themselves, who obey His Word.
This is what the Lord says:
Heaven is my throne,
and earth is my footstool.
Where could you possibly build a house for Me?
And where would my resting place be?My hand made all these things,
and so they all came into being.
This is the Lord’s declaration.
I will look favorably on this kind of person:
one who is humble, submissive in spirit,
and trembles at My word. Isa 66:1,2Ps 137:7-9: “Let us go to his dwelling place,
let us worship at his footstool, saying,
8 ‘Arise, Lord, and come to your resting place,
you and the ark of your might.
9 May your priests be clothed with your righteousness;
may your faithful people sing for joy.’”1 Pet 2:5 – “you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house[a] (“into a temple of the Spirit) to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.”
“The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands.25 And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else.”
16 What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said:
“I will live with them
and walk among them,
and I will be their God,
and they will be my people. 2 Cor 6:16All JWs, including the “spirit sons of God”, are encouraged to serve “Jehovah’s organization”. They believe God needs every available asset from money to physical abilities, to assist in a “preaching work” understood as God's will. My goodness, the organization boasts in operating three filming facilities, (while owning less kingdom halls) as they pump out a video per day. Is this evidence of the coming trend in the “preaching work” - the bigger the vision, the more money needed to sustain it? Matt 7:21-23
The true Zion is perceived through its “living stones” and not earthly commodities. (Phil 3:19; Col 2:8) God’s authentic “organization” – His Temple dwelling – is to have no part in Satan’s world. (1 John 5:19)
“Therefore since we are God’s offspring, we should not think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone—an image made by human design and skill. 30 In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. 31 For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.” Acts 17:29-31
As Satan has intended, the anointed in the organization have been absorbed and lost within it, slipping into idolatry as they serve the work of man’s hands. (Luke 22:31; 2 Thess 2:9,10) (Ps 135:15; 1 Kings 9:6-9; Jer 4:1,2)
Zion’s true identity has deliberately escaped your attention, JWs, as men encourage you to serve an “image” of perceived divinity. This image is housed not only in earthly treasures, but in the representation of a false priesthood of the “Gentile” elder body. (Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3) It blasphemes the true Temple of God, found in its representatives who are the anointed priesthood. Rev 13:1,5-10,11,14,15; Dan 7:25; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22.
Its presence has cut off any individual gift offerings and sacrifices God would otherwise receive from His priesthood. (Dan 11:31) The presence of a counterfeit priesthood ruling over the anointed has thrown truth “to the ground”. (Dan 8:12) Because of this circumstance, the “good news of the Kingdom” is the testimony given in the last days to the “inhabited earth” – God’s dwelling, His “inhabited earth” and owned “land”. ( Matt 24:4; John 14:23; 1 Cor 3:9)
The so called "world-wide" preaching was being accomplished since the time of Christ
(Luke 4:43; Col 1:6,23; Mark 16:15; Rom 10:18).It was the work of those qualified by their anointing with Holy Spirit (Acts 1:8; Eph 3:7; Col 1:5,25; 1 John 2:20,17; 1 Cor 4:1; Matt 28:16,18-20; Gal 1:11,12,15-17,20).
Those to whom the final good news is to be preached, is the Israel of God (Matt 10:23;Isa 48:20; Rev 2:1,8,12,18; 3:1,7,14)
which will be scattered among the nations, to the "four winds" (Ezek 39:23,28,29; Micah 5:8; Amos 9:9; Mark 13:27).
The good news gathers them back together, and out of the Gentile dominion which held them captive
(Micah 5:3; 4:10; Rev 12:2; 13:7,10; Luke 21:24).The "good news" in the time of the end, is that God will provide the repentant remnant redemption, by means of Christ's blood, and their own required sacrifice for the sake of truth, in imitation of their model, Christ.
(Mat 25:6; Heb 13:13; Phil 3:10; 2 Cor 4:10; Rom 6:5; 1 Pet 2:21; Rev 14:4; 6:9,11; 12:10,11)
The circumstances of the Great Tribulation requires defiance/warfare against the religious slavery that held them captive, and caused them to fall asleep (1 Cor 7:23; Gal 1:10; Col 3:24; 2 Cor 10:3-5; Rev 11:5; Jer 23:29; Rev 17:14).
The wicked steward is presently lording it over the anointed household of God (Mar 10:42,-45),
and wielding the power of Gentiles in order to beat his fellows,
just as the Harlot / "false prophet", wields her power, through the Gentile Beast
(Rev 17:6,3; 11:7; 13:11,15,14; 19:20).Accomplishing the final witness to God's remnant
(Matt 10:23; 24:14; Isa 48:20; Rev 18:4),to the satisfaction of God's purpose, will be completely credited to God's own spirit and power
(Isa 42:8; Phil 4:20; Rev 4:11)
(2 Chron 16:9; John 6:65; 14:6; Heb 2:12,13; John 18:9; 17:12)...not to the power or wisdom of proud men (1 Cor 1:27; Matt 7:22; 1 Cor 4:7; Luke 17:10; Rev 19:10).
(Zech 4:6,14; Jer 17:5; Ps 118:8; 1 Cor 1:27,28; 2 Cor 12:9),nor by the physical resources of this world (1 John 2:15,16; 2 Cor 5:12).
Pearl Doxsey
“Questions from the Beast”
“The Good News – What is it? Who is it for?/1914 (“Earth”)
“YHVH’s Genuine Mountain”
Pearl Doxsey – 4womaninthewilderness blogspot
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44 minutes ago, Sean Migos said:
Thank you for your response. I will continue to hold the Governing Body as seen through the eyes of Jesus, not in reverence but deserving of respect for their hard work and dedication to Jehovah.
45 minutes ago, Sean Migos said:I have no inclination to disrespect God for the choices he makes in man, and whom he chooses to receive God's instructions.
That is pretty impossible for the GB, isn't it? They admit they are not inspired by Holy Spirit, which is the only way they could receive God's instructions. If they were to work as one with the an entire anointed Body, then yes; they would receive instructions of truth through Christ. Col 2:19; 1 Cor 12:21-26; Eph 4:4-6
As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him. 1 John 2:27
Holy Spirit, the source of inspiration comes from the vine - Jesus Christ. If these men say they are not inspired, (which they have) they have not 'remained' on the vine.
“I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. 7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. 8 This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples." John 15:5-8
So, whose "instructions" are they carrying out? 2 Cor 11:4,13,14 How does Jesus truly see these men who claim they are not inspired with his truth?
“If you love me, keep my commands. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you." John 14:15-17
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On 9/14/2019 at 11:28 AM, Jack Ryan said:
Watchtower attorney Joel Taylor lied to the Montana Supreme Court.
Taylor was asked whether the Watchtower or CCJW organization would penalize someone (an elder) who decided to follow his own conscience and report allegations of child sexual abuse to the authorities.
Taylor said such persons would make their own "conscience-based decision on whether to report and that they would not be penalized. He said that would be a decision between them and God. [We all know how God treats elders who disobey]
Not only was this an outright lie, but it contradicts testimony from the trial itself, where Watchtower representative Doug Chappel acknowledged that elders must comply with Watchtower policy- or they will not be elders.
On 9/14/2019 at 11:36 AM, The Librarian said:I feel sorry for Lexi.
Jehovah is the final Judge of all of us. Her true motivations will become known over time.
True, (actually, it would be Christ who has been given that authority , John 5:22) but what was the true motivation of WT attorney, Joel Taylor? Isn't it more important at this point to consider why a representative of the organization, would clearly tell a lie?
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56 minutes ago, Anna said:
That's because they DON'T just get up and move on.
In other words, you recognize that speaking up against the GB’s mistakes can cause one to be shunned; however, no one can walk away, not even quietly without being shunned. I can count four individuals close by, who are not disfellowshipped but are treated as such, just for walking away. You also know these things.
A true Christian who follows the path of Christ, would speak up for truth and expose error, right? Isn’t that the emphasis the organization takes when it comes to “christendom”? Why should upholding truth stop just because eight uninspired men say they represent Christ?
Matt 24:24 Even the anointed/"elect" are stumbled by the end time, "false christs". John 16:2; Rev 13:11,15
Christ was not a coward; following in his footsteps requires speaking out for his truth., not swallowing lies or just walking away. Matt 5:10,11
Eph 6:12
DOES GOD HAVE AN ORGANIZATION?
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Is a Body organized? How could it continue to function, if it were not? Do not our eyes work along with our hands?... Our heart beating, work in harmony with our breathing so that oxygen reaches all our cells... our kidneys cleaning our blood and our digestion to feed our whole body? Yes, God does work through an organized Body, and has done so since it's head, Jesus Christ, took over as the leader of the Christian congregation (1Cor.12:27; Col.1:18).
The fact that God is organized, and that He possesses and reigns over an organization in the earth... DOES NOT require that such an organization IS "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"! This is simple to understand. Just because a man has a wife, does not require that any woman, qualifies to be his wife.
Stating that the WT is God's visible organization, is an assumption with no basis... especially since scripture itself, identifies God's visible organization... and it is NOT the WT.
--God's Word identifies the organized Body of Christ, as the anointed Bride of Christ. That Body, is NOT the WT organization. The WT organization is a counterfeit imposition that superimposes itself upon the genuine, with the goal of replacing and veiling the genuine.
Yes... God is organized. God has a visible organization/Temple priesthood, in the earth. That organized Body of Christ, is the means through which, truth is offered to all, and through which baptism into divine truth is made possible, and a dedication to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is set within reach.
No declaration or vow of loyalty to the genuine messengers of truth and life, is required upon baptism (1Cor.1:13-15; Acts19:1-5).
The way, truth, and life from Christ (through his ambassadors), is the object of one's dedication, worship, and service, for Christ (Gal.1:10).
The body of Christ/God's Temple priesthood, is a reality (1Pet.2:5,9; Eph.2:20-22; Rev.1:5-6; 5:9-10).
It is an expression of God's organized method to offer truth and life in the visible world. The WT has stolen that identity by it's organization of impostors, replacing "Jerusalem above" with the governing body... and switching God's priests with "elders" that are spiritual Gentiles. That counterfeit temple results in the trampling down of God's chosen Bride of Christ, and establishes the "disgusting thing", taking a stand, over the "holy place". Jesus said that when we are able to perceive it, we must Flee! (Mark13:14-15; Luke17:30-37; Rev.12:14,6; 11:3)
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