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They are not short, but shorter than the above post. Maybe that fits the requirement. The WT leaders have been cunning in revealing bits of truth over the years, but washing it clean away, with fresh lies. I am referring to Habakkuk, his prophesy and the article I read, which I pointed out that the article doesn’t mention its fulfillment now. In fact, all the prophets spoke of the Christ, and of the end times. And what the prophets proclaimed to God’s people during their time period, rings true today. They are in harmony with Jesus’ words that are directed to the “elect” – the anointed ones. Matt 24:24 God’s people haven’t escaped sin, but are wallowing in it. It is naïve to think that an earthly organization that runs on Satanic fuel, (any and all resources available in this world) would bring protection to a people; when no other earthly organization in this world can do so. It is a concoction from the minds of men, beginning in the 1940’s. Relying on it as a protection and way to salvation, is relying on an idol. It is what the fingers of men have made. Isa 2:8 The apostles didn’t rely on an organization; no anointed one up until the early 1900's relied on an organization to preach and worship as Christ said it was to occur, in John 4:21-24. Several times in the past God’s people claimed to worship Him, yet they also worshiped their idols, as do JWs today – “Jehovah and his organization”. However, many are aware of its problems. Believing that God will fix what is broken is a misconception, but many JWs wholeheartedly are convinced of this, by their leaders. Hos 8:1-6 God didn’t fix what was broken in the past, but removed His Holy Spirit, allowing them to suffer for their actions. Before doing so, He sent His prophets to warn them of what was to come upon them. He offered them His protection. Those that may have suffered but returned to the Father, He restored. Always, it was the few who did so. There is one last prophetic message to God’s people before the Kingdom arrives. That is, to leave idolatry and the ignorance of God’s laws behind. It is, the awareness of the oppression and transgression of His people (the Temple of God, 1 Cor 3:16,17) under a “Gentile” rule, the elder body. 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3 The book of Revelation brings prophesies from all the books of the Bible together as a finished puzzle, revealing this last surge of deception on the “woman” New Covenant members, and their falling into sin because of it. Rev 12:15 This time, its appearance is not one easily detected, as perhaps one would look at a religion with obvious idols, and who do not follow the laws of God. This time, it appears as “truth”, and the accomplishment of a great preaching work. 2 Thess 2:9-12 Yet, the violence (Hab 1:2-4) and obvious betrayal of God’s decrees that otherwise might be apparent in the past, are now cloaked under falsehoods spoken with a smooth tongue. Prov 5:3 It is a captivity that Revelations speaks of, (Rev 13:10; Col 2:8) and a “conquering” of the anointed ones under a powerful rule that is directed by a false prophet – a “Hartlot”. The organization deflects the meaning of Revelation to “Christendom” when it is pasted all over within it, evidence that God’s people are under a spiritual captivity to a Beast and a false prophet. Rev 13:1,11; 20:7-9 God is warning His people, His potential “kings and priests of the earth”, (1 Pet 2:5,9; Rev 1:5; 5:9,10) and all of those with them, to “come out”. Rev 18:4-8 His chosen people are not in Christendom, but are the “saints” gathered in the organization, where speaking against falsehoods causes them and their companions to be disfellowshipped, thrown out of the congregation and considered, dead. John 16:2; Rev 13:5-7,15 It is prophesy being fulfilled. That really is the bottom line. 1 Cor 10:12-14 The organization is not a lifeline to salvation, but a created idol. God and Jesus Christ are, and always have been, our source of salvation. Acts 4:12

The organization is the perceived lifeline for JWs. I was reading through an article from 2018 where the topic, “wait on Jehovah” was explained as relying on “God’s Word and the organization” to see one through the distresses and trials that face us during these last days. This implies that having faith in God and Christ are not enough to see us safely into the Kingdom. It implies that putting faith in an earthly organization is vital to receive salvation. (Rev 2:20) The article used Habakkuk’s ultimate example of patience for JWs to wait for God to enact judgment on the source of their affliction. Yet, to clarify, Habakkuk was experiencing the injustices and violence occurring among his own people, primarily as a result of falling into idolatry. “How long, Lord, must I call for help and you do not listen or cry out to you about violence and you do not save? 3 Why do you force me to look at injustice? Why do you tolerate wrongdoing? Oppression and violence are right in front of me. Strife is ongoing, and conflict escalates. 4 This is why the law is ineffective and justice never emerges. For the wicked restrict the righteous; therefore, justice comes out perverted. Hab 1:2-4 The article expresses that Habakkuk’s prophesy against Judah had complete fulfillment in his day. God allowed the Babylonians to come against His people as severe discipline, resulting from their wickedness. (Hab 1:6-11 ) Using Habakkuk’s example of patience when waiting for God to react to the sins of His people, the organization appeases its members to “wait on Jehovah” to “fix” the daily stresses of life that all of us have to face, during this time of the end. ( Hab 2:1 ) Is that it? Does this prophet’s message have no further fulfillment for God’s people now? (Rev 10:7; 22:6 ) Revelation reveals the sins of God’s people during these last days! (Rev 18:4-8) Habakkuk’s words ring true one again. Evidence of their sins has progressively come into sharper focus. Dan 12:9; Rev 20:11-13 “As this time of the end brings with it full understanding...All the things written in the Bible will finally be fully understood, with complete accuracy, clarity, and in purity. If you have obeyed God's Word, your righteous obedience will be manifested. If you have disobeyed, it will be uncovered (2 Pet 3:10; Luke 8:17; 12:49; 1 Cor 4:5; 3:13; Rev 11:3,5; 8:5; Jer 21:14; 23:29) …all according to the corrected interpretation/"opening", of the scriptures which we already possess.” Pearl Doxsey, “New Scrolls?” 4womaninthewilderness Among the sins of God’s anointed priests, is the belief that the organization can bring them salvation. (Isa 43:11; Rev 13:1,2,11,14,15,8) The anointed and companions settle for spiritual food considered “truth”, yet lasting substance. John 15:16 Someone I know compared it to cotton candy, swirled beautifully on a paper stick; sweet, but without nourishment. Under the fiery test that has come upon God’s people, will this hollow “truth” survive the heat? Or, like cotton candy will it melt under God’s wrath? 2 Pet 3:10-12; 5:14; Matt 3:12; Heb 1:7; Rev 11:3,5 Revelation speaks of a powerful army backed by a “delusion” of righteousness, that God “sends” or allows Satan to enact upon His anointed ones. Luke 21:24; 2 Thess 2:3,4,9-12; Rev 11:1,2; 9:1,3-5,7,10; Joel 2:6-9 It conquers them through deceit and demonic expressions inspired by Satan. Rev 16:13,14; 13:5,6 It restricts all spiritual movement of God’s priesthood, replacing them as their “representatives”. Dan 8:11,12 A prominent, arrogant “false prophet” and the structured powerful system it employs, claims to be ”the truth”, yet is a wicked twist of cloaked violence that successfully removes the power of God’s holy people. Matt 24:48-51 Babylon the Great is the covenant of death. Isa 28:15 The call in the last days is to “come out of her my people”, out of that covenant, to receive life. It is time to escape the final judgment to come upon the “kings of the earth”. (Rev 1:5; 5:9,10) Rev 6:15-17 Hab 2:2-4: The Lord answered me: “Write down this vision; clearly inscribe it on tablets so one may easily read it. 3 For the vision is yet for the appointed time; it testifies about the end and will not lie. Though it delays, wait for it, since it will certainly come and not be late. 4 Look, his ego is inflated; he is without integrity. But the righteous one will live by his faith. 5 Moreover, winebetrays; an arrogant man is never at rest. He enlarges his appetite like Sheol, and like Death he is never satisfied. He gathers all the nations to himself; he collects all the peoples for himself.” Many JWs recognize the injustices within the congregations, hoping that God will repair what is believed to be His organization. They are told to persevere and not question the authority of the elder body. However, notice what Pearl Doxsey states: Sitting still in silence, is not truly, "waiting on Jehovah"...as if His patience is to blame for our drunken sleep. We do not "wait on Jehovah" for Him to make us take action to do what is right (Deut 30:15,19; Luke 13:24) Yhwh is not going to force the corrupt ones to change, so we should stop waiting for that. He is allowing a short time, to see what WE will choose; the condoning of corruption...or faithful action that results in life. (Gal 6:4; Mark 10:29,30; Rev 2:2; 2 Cor 6:17; Rev 18:4; Mark 8:35) We have free will, and must choose for ourselves to obey His warnings and guidance. "Waiting" will not accomplish this, nor save us. Decisive action was needed to save Noah and his family (Gen 6:22; Heb 12:25). It is the same today (Matt.24:37; 1Cor.10:11). (Matt 24:37; 1 Cor 10:11) Many may be under the impression that we have enough time before the end; and that there is time for the Organization to be cleansed and repaired. The reality is, that no longer will imperfect men running an imperfect organization, rule in righteousness during the remainder of Satan's system. The very next kings will be Yhwh, Christ, and his glorified brothers (2 Pet 3:5-7;11,13; Rev 12:10; 6:10,11; 14:1). These have no need of a man-made Temple, buildings, or Organization (John 4:21,23,24; Matt 24:2, Isa 26:5; Job 5:11; Ezek 21:25-27; Luke 14:11). God himself is constructing his own, perfected "organization"; and the last of the living stones are taking their place in the completed Tabernacle of God (1 Cor 15:50; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16; Eph 2:20-22; Heb 11:10; Acts 7:48; Zech 4:9,10)) This everlasting and glorious "organization" comes down out of heaven from God (Rev 21:2-5; 22:3,4; Dan 2:44); not up from the ashes of corruption and sin (Job 14:4). Yhwh has made plain in so many scriptures, that now is not the time for loyalty to those condemned. It is a time for fleeing, an opened door provided by the merciful compassion of the King of Eternity; who does not implement the cleansing fire of His wrath, until first He warns His prophets (Amos 3:7; 2 Pet 1:21) Let him that has ears...listen! (Luke 21:21,22; 17:32; Isa 52:11; 2 Cor 6:17; Jer 51:45; Rev 18:4) Pearl Doxsey – “Flee” 4womaninthewilderness I’m including Ecclesiastes Chapter 12, with just a few of what could be many, descriptions of terms that lead one to other compatible scriptures. Personally, I see this this chapter as shedding light on the severe situation God’s people will face, in its extremity. I believe some of you, might feel the same. Remember your Creator in the days of your youth, before the evil days come And the years approach of which you will say, “I have no pleasure in them”; 2 Before the sun is darkened and the light and the moon and the stars (Rev 6:12) and the clouds return after (“behind”) the rain; 3 When the guardians of the house tremble, and the strong men are bent; When the women who grind are idle because they are few, (Luke 17:35) and those who look through the windows grow blind; 4 When the doors to the street are shut, and the sound of the mill is low; When one rises at the call of a bird, and all the daughters of song are quiet; (Isa 1:18 5 When one is afraid of heights, (“that which is exalted, arrogant”) and perils in the street; (“fears shall be in the way”) When the almond tree blooms, (almond tree, “the first to awaken in the spring” – Jer 1:11,12) and the locust grows sluggish (“burdensome”– Rev 9:3-5) and the caper berry (“desire”) is without effect, Because mortals go to their lasting home, and mourners go about the streets; 6 Before the silver cord is snapped (cord = “inheritance, measuring line” Rev 11:1,2) and the golden bowl is broken, [bowl - Zech 4:2,3; broken – “oppressed” (Holy Spirit)] And the pitcher is shattered at the spring, (Isa 49:9; Rev 8:10,11) and the pulley is broken at the well, (pully – “wheel/whirlwind” ; broken – “oppressed”; well – “cistern, a pit hole, especially one used as a dungeon”). (Rev 13:10; Isa 52:2) 7 And the dust returns to the earth as it once was, and the life breath returns to God who gave it. 8 Vanity of vanities, says Qoheleth, all things are vanity! “Qoheleth” – “a collector, preacher, (female) assembler, lecturer” Epilogue. 9 Besides being wise, Qoheleth taught the people knowledge, and weighed, scrutinized and arranged many proverbs. 10 Qoheleth sought to find appropriate sayings, and to write down true sayings with precision. 11 The sayings of the wise are like goads; like fixed spikes are the collected sayings given by one Shepherd. 12 As to more than these, my son, beware. Of the making of many books there is no end, and in much study there is weariness for the flesh. (How many “books” has the organization printed and then discarded?) 13 The last word, when all is heard: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this concerns all humankind; 14 because God will bring to judgment every work, with all its hidden qualities, whether good or bad. Of interest, “Trees of Life”, “Holy City” 4womaninthewilderness

This is second hand information, and I can't say it is "new". Perhaps it is new in the way it is presented, especially under a convention entitled "Love Never Fails". I was hoping you may shed some truth to it, since you are taking notes. The "rumor" is, JWs are being told they shouldn't form an emotional attachment to their pets; that it is "foolish because they don't have feelings or emotions". If it is true that the leaders of the WT have stated this, why would anyone trust anything else these men say about love? "So God blessed Noah and his sons, and said to them: “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth. 2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be on every beast of the earth, on every bird of the air, on all that move on the earth, and on all the fish of the sea. They are given into your hand. " Gen 9:1,2

You're over the top. Sex change? Really?

In the WT, anointed ones are being disfellowshipped for rejecting false teachings, which happen to come from men. John 16:2; Rev 13:15 They are disfellowshipped because they uphold Christ as their Head, and not men. Pearl is a woman, and an anointed one, who was disfellowshipped for speaking truth. If I recognize that truth, what does that have to do with my validation as an anointed one when speaking and teaching what I've learned from Pearl? In the anointed Body of Christ, arranged by GOD, "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." Gal 3:28 All one in Christ, in teachings - in what the Holy Spirit provides. Since your opinion is so similar to those who favor ruling over the anointed Body of Christ, I say - "Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand" Rom 14:4 You have never been a member of the WT organization, from what I recall. As the expression goes, if you’re going to talk the talk, you’ve got to walk the walk. Until you've experienced what it is to wake up to a lie and then realize you must leave it to follow in Christ's footsteps, your opinion on the anointed ones and their situation in the WT, holds no value with me whatsoever. However, I thank you for linking to that conversation. Perhaps others, will see truth. edited

Which the anointed are now doing in the organization.

There is a lot we don't agree with, JWI. And this is one of them. Although I would prefer your spiritual eyes to be more keen than they are, you are certainly wiser, and more experienced than those on the GB. It doesn't take wisdom to make up delusional doctrine. It's like learning to ride a bike, it becomes second nature after awhile . 2 Tim 4:3,4 However, it takes spiritual wisdom, to recognize the delusion. 1 John 4:1

There isn’t a “group 2” in Jesus’ words, but an ongoing generated seed, either “born” of God’s Spirit, (Ps 112:2; 1 Pet 1:23; Phil 2:15) or of the spirit of Satan. Deut 32:5; John 8:44; Matt 12:39; Eph 2:2 Two generations of different fathers, have produced a seed and exist down to this day. Gen 3:15 Jesus’ words about the temple being destroyed have another fulfillment today. Another set of “stones”, “living stones” have been “thrown down” with a “Gentile” army trampling the Temple (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22; 2 Thess 2:1-4; Rev 11:1,2)…in the organization. If this wasn’t true, then the prophesy of the Great Tribulation would not be applied to the last days. Luke 21:5-36 7 At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.28 When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.” He told them this parable: “Look at the fig tree and all the trees.30 When they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves and know that summer is near. 31 Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near. 32 “Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. The kingdom of God didn’t arrive then, when that literal generation passed away. 2 Pet 3:7,12,13 - 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly. (A “wicked generation”) as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells. (a “righteous/upright generation” Ps 112:2) Rev 21:1,3; 1 Cor 3:16,17 “Fire” symbolized God’s Word which reveals lies and establishes truth, in the last days. Jer 23:29; 5:14; Heb 1:7; Rev 11:1-3,5 Watchtower’s ongoing lie about “this generation” will be consumed by the fire of God’s Word. Isa 24:6; Hos 6:5; Matt 24:48,51; 2 Thess 1:8 Pearl Doxsey an anointed one, has written much about the meaning of "generation". What one person, a woman, has done to reveal truth, eight men who stumble in the dark, will never accomplish. God chooses the lowly, not the arrogant, to reveal His Word. Ezek 21:25,26 4womaninthewilderness

Isn't Jesus judging us now? John 12:31; Rom 2:16

I think if you read my posts and comments, you will see I have been consistently transparent, with the same message. However, you will be in for a surprise (I wish you were prepared for it) when the GB’s true colors will be exposed by the organization itself. Revelation’s “Beast”/organization is spirit-inspired (spirit-directed) and guided by a “prostitute”/false prophet (Beast of Rev 13:11). Rev 13:1,2,11,14-17 Soon, the organization will expose the GB’s secrets and sins, and more than likely disfellowship them. Then the angel said to me, “The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages. 16 The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to hand over to the beast their royal authority, until God’s words are fulfill” Rev 17:15-17 The “Beast” is comprised of the elder body. The “ten horns” with “royal authority” signify anointed ones (1 Pet 2:5,9). Rev 17:12 Under coordinated efforts, they will dispose of the GB. The Beast/organization will last for “one hour” after that revamping, before its destruction. Rev 19:20 “For it is time for judgment to begin with God’s household; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God?” 1 Pet 4:17

Are you believing that everyone who has ever lived will get a second chance to “alter they ways”? Will the Pharisees in Jesus’ day be resurrected? Will idolaters be resurrected and given a second chance? Please, put aside the opinion of your leaders and listen to what God says: The heart is deceitful more than anything else, and it is disastrous. Who can understand it? 10 I, Yahweh, examine the mind,[h] (heart) I test the heart,[i] (kidneys) and give to each one according to his way, according to the fruit of his deeds. Jer 17:10,11 This is final judgment by God. By believing there is another judgment time after Armageddon, means God cannot be trusted to examine our intentions, as we live on this earth. Are you trusting the words of men over those of God? The Thousand Year Reign of Christ beginning in the first century, is the time when the anointed were being sifted as either his enemy or as co-heirs with him in the Kingdom of God. Each anointed one since Christ must stand for truth; those that don’t, become his enemy, siding with Satan and his lies. 2 Cor 10:4; John 16:33 Armageddon is when the last anointed ones face Satan’s final delusion, a time of great emotional, spiritual “distress”. It is the culmination of “truth” battling against “lies”. Gen 3:15; 2 Thess 2:9-12; Rev 19:11 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.” Once we are written in the book of life, it remains there, forever. There is no chance of a fickle God erasing it because of our failing a “final test” after Armageddon. Watchtower teaches a shameful lie about Armageddon, as a literal war with Christ coming on a steed to save the day (wearing a cape??) The nations and literal guns are not aimed at God’s anointed ones and all JWs, but it is Satan’s LIES that will take them down, for eternity. Doesn’t God promise protection to those who serve Him according to His decrees? Lev 26:3-5; Deut 6:16-18; Isa 48:18; Matt 5:10 Has He done this all the years the WT has been in existence? NO. The organization continually fights with Satan’s system to keep it afloat. Many have died a horrid death, supporting the organization. There is no Holy Spirit involved; instead, it is men collecting money to build a falsehood called a “spiritual paradise”. 1 Thess 5:3 It is a delusion and a crushing one for the anointed ones, (God's Temple - 1 Cor 3:16,17) who must remain SILENT and allow the elders to rule over them. Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4;9-12; Rev 11:1-3 This is their final test, the final battle between “seeds”; to side with truth in Christ, or the lies originating from the Father of the lie. Gen 3:15; Rev 13:1,2,10,18,11 John 12:31 - Now is the judgment of this world! Now the ruler of this world will be thrown out! Do you believe these words of Christ?

Jesus knew it was coming. Now there was also a dispute among them, as to which of them should be considered the greatest. 25 And He said to them, “The kings (elder body) of the Gentiles (those not anointed) exercise lordship over them, and those who exercise authority over them are called ‘benefactors.’ (GB) 26 But not so among you; on the contrary, he who is greatest among you, let him be as the younger, and he who governs as he who serves. 27 For who is greater, he who sits at the table, or he who serves? Is it not he who sits at the table? Yet I am among you as the One who serves. Luke 22:24-27 They are called "benefactors" "Benefactors" - A title of honor, conferred on such as had done their country service, and upon princes, equivalent to Soter, Pater Patriae. ("Father of the Country") I believe JWs will agree that the GB/"faithful and discreet slave" has done their "country service"; yet totally blind to their true identity as "dictators".

You must be directing your comment to Jesus.Defender, but I wanted to say something about this part of your comment: The “final test” that I believe you are referring to, is after a supposed 1,000 years of peace after Armageddon. Have you ever found in the scriptures where this thousand year time period would be one of peace? Matt 10:34 The Watchtower states it is a time of judgment. If that is so, what is the basis for judging a person under what would be a righteous rule, free from Satanic influence? If peace reigns, will there be any chance of insurrection, or disobedience, or wickedness? Watchtower 15/5/1 p. 16 I hope you read it carefully to perceive its contradictions. Why will Judgment Day last a thousand years? The dead will be raised during the thousand years. (Revelation 20:4, 12) They will need time to learn God’s ways and obey him. Contrary to popular opinion, the Bible shows that people will be judged on the basis of what they do after their resurrection.—Read Romans 6:7. Rom 6:7 - For he who has died has been freed from sin. So, Watchtower is saying that during this thousand year time period, people may start out sinless, but sin can happen, because “of what they do after their resurrection”, even though Satan isn’t around to entice them into sin until the “final test”. As I contemplate this, it doesn’t sound like a peaceful reign to me. Who could trust their neighbor if there is a chance they will disobey God? Wt’s phrase: “people will need time to learn God’s ways and obey him”. Of all the people that have lived on the earth, doesn’t God read the heart of each and every one of them? The resurrection is for those whose hearts are already “alive” by God’s standards, “fully committed” to serving Him. 2 Chron 16:9 They’ve already been tested by just living in this world where Satan is very intent on wanting to deceive them. 1 Pet 5:8 But concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God, saying, 32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.” Matt 22:31-32 Once we gain eternal life from God, it is eternal. Otherwise, all of Christ’s promises to those who are obedient to him now, are nullified. John 6:40; 7:38; 17:3; Matt 25:44-46 This includes both anointed and those not anointed. Reading the surrounding scriptures give a different meaning to Rom 6:7: For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, 6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. 7 For he who has died has been freed from sin. 8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, 9 knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him. 10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. 11 Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord. Rom 6:5-11 WT’s version of the thousand years tells JWs that even though one might survive Armageddon, they can still become “slaves to sin”, and die. Not according to Paul’s words. “If we die with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him”. It is true that this is how the anointed receive eternal life. Even while alive in the flesh, eternal death has no hold on those alive in Christ. 1 Cor 15:55 And it applies to the rest of God’s children in the Kingdom. Tell me, is it fair for them to face two “Armageddons”, two “final tests”, while the anointed remnant are sealed in heaven? Is it fair for those who also live according to Christ’s teachings and promises on this side of Armageddon's finish, to face one more final test when they also “die for Christ”? Matt 16:25 Even though the WT says, “contrary to popular opinion” that people will be judged after the resurrection, it states: The Bible also describes a day of judgment that will occur suddenly before the thousand years begin. That day is also called the end, as discussed in the cover articles of this issue. In that day, God will remove all ungodly, wicked people. (2 Peter 3:7) Therefore, we should take care to prove our love for God.—Read 2 Peter 3:9, 13. The end to what? To death? To wickedness? No, according to the organization. Wickedness will still rear its ugly head a thousand years later (maybe sooner if people fall into sin through failing to learn obedience to God) There are two things to notice about 2 Pet 3:9,13 2 Pet 3:9 – those who survive Armageddon have repented of their sins. Their hearts have already been judged as righteous, as 2 Pet 3:13 explains. What a cruel act of God it would be, to test a heart already found righteous and sinless, during, and at the end of a thousand years…after the Great Tribulation/Armageddon. The amazing thing to me, is that this “thousand years” is deemed as one of peace, yet also one of severe scrutiny by God. "The end" involves the appearance and ultimate destruction of a "false prophet" and the Beast/organization it directs. Rev 13:1,11 These entities are described also as "Gog and Magog". In both places of Revelation, the "saints" are under their control. Rev 13:5-7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea Rev 20:7-9 Please notice what happens to the anointed ones, the “saints”, when Satan is released to deceive - 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. This doesn’t occur after Armageddon, because by that time, the entire group of sealed “144,000 saints” are serving God in His “heavenly” Temple. (1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22) They would have conquered wickedness, and would be ruling as “kings and priests”…forever. Rev 3:12;7:15;14:1; 5:9,10 But, as a JW, you would know this; although I am sure you haven’t focused on the results of Satan being “let loose” after a “thousand years”. (Rev 20:9) So, what is the battle all about? You are seeing one side of it now. It is the battle of truth against the deceitful lies that you now believe in. The thousand years began in the first century. Jesus was ruling ‘ in the midst his enemies’ once he sat down at God’s right hand. Ps 110:1,2; John 12:31,32; 1 Cor 15:24-27 Each day of that symbolic time period ( 2 Pet 3:8,9) was one of judgment for the anointed and believers in Christ, and is our “day of judgment” now; based on whether we choose to serve God and Christ, or men and their twisted antics with scripture. The “thousand years” has ended; Satan was “let loose” to deceive the anointed who are presently surrounded within the walls of the Watchtower. Matt 24:23,24; Thess 2:9-12 Rev 16:13,14 (the “kings of the earth” are the saints. Rev 1:5) Rev 16:13,14 speaks of the “kings of the earth”, who are the anointed ones/saints, gathered together by a false prophet and a Beast/organization (Gog and Magog) (Rev 13:12,11; 20:8,9) for the “battle of the great day of God the Almighty”. Demonic expressions are used against them…and all JWs; one being the doctrine of when the thousand year reign of Christ actually occurred. “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. (the chosen ones, 1 Pet 2:5,9) Matt 24:24 Of interest, “The Remaining Ones” by Pearl Doxsey – 4womaninthewilderness

But Queen Esther, God’s Word has always held out promises. His covenants with His people are promises, which is what “covenant” means. Lev 26:9,12; Acts 2:39; Gal 3:18; 4:28 The coming of Jesus fulfilled the law covenant/promise. And, a new one has been enacted, the New Covenant promise of eternal life in Christ. Acts 13:23,32 God always promised His people life and protection if they served Him according to his decrees. Deut 11:13-15 He made it very clear then how to do that, and He makes it very clear today. If we acknowledge the gift of life as coming from Christ, we can receive it by obeying Jesus’ teachings, That is God’s promise. James 1:21 Luke 11:28 – Blessed, rather, are those who hear the Word of God, and obey it. It seems as if you believe the scriptures provided here, can’t be relied on as a promise of life. Whose words weigh in with you more, those of your leaders, or those of Christ? 1 Tim 4:16 “Anyone who does not remain in Christ's teaching but goes beyond it does not have God. The one who remains in that teaching, this one has both the Father and the Son.” 2 John 1:9 The long list of the org’s historical teachings above, go beyond the teachings of Christ. We shouldn’t turn our backs on that list, but confront it, because understanding why it exists and why we may put up with it, means our life. Luke 21:8; 2 Pet 2:3; Col 2:8 We can talk about the Father all day, but if we don’t listen to His Son, study his teachings, and obey them, doesn’t that make us just like the early Jews who rejected Christ? Luke 9:35 We listen to him because he holds the key of life. John 5:24

BTK: "As far as the anointed, it’s true, it’s nobody’s business who is anointed or not. God will make his final decision when the time comes. On earth, there is only hope." "Now one thing you can signal out, is the behavior and action of someone calling themselves anointed. For those obvious reasons, those people are only fooling themselves." He just couldn't help making it his business. Very God-like. Isa 40:25

Dear Queen Esther, he is quoting (not all is verbatim) what the organization has written - its history...and your history, as a JW. They both together, promise eternal life. ‘Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me." John 14:1 ~~~~~~~ "Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing His work." John 14:1 ~~~~~~ Then they asked him, ‘Where is your father?’ ‘You do not know me or my Father,’ Jesus replied. ‘If you knew me, you would know my Father also.' John 8:19 ~~~~~~~ And yes, he can promise eternal life by our believing in him. After Jesus said this, he looked towards heaven and prayed: Jesus said to her, ‘I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die" John 11:25 ~~~~~~~~ ‘Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. 2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." John 17:1-3 ~~~~~~~ "Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes Him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life." John 5:24 ~~~~~~~ He then brought them out and asked, ‘Sirs, what must I do to be saved?’ 31 They replied, ‘Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved – you and your household.’ Acts 16:30,31 Jesus is ‘“the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.” 12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.’ Acts 4:11,12 ~~~~~~~~~ "So Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him. Heb 9:28 ~~~~~~~~ For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 1 Cor 15:22

“Debunk” – to prove that something such as an idea or belief is false and silly. It wasn’t falsely “debunked” until the expectations of the organization never were fulfilled. It was then that the responsibility of believing in a scam fell on the shoulders of the members, even though it was the "serious students of the Bible" who believed 1975 to be an important date. I would guess the most serious of "serious students" would be the leaders who approved of printing the article. A collage of expectations:

I speak of Jesus continually, while you speak of the GB, continually. Tell me, which words of Christ do I reject? Or, do you mean, I reject your false christs' words? Their words are not in harmony with the words of Jesus Christ, which speak truth; unlike leaders who can't walk a straight line in Bible truths - Christ's teachings. (again, it's called spiritual drunkenness - Isa 28:7-10; Matt 24:48-51) I left your leaders to follow Christ. Have you forgotten that I have stated this? But in your twisted way, you believe that is an evil thing to do, and your leaders believe the same. "Also I say to you, whoever confesses Me before men, him the Son of Man also will confess before the angels of God. 9 But he who denies Me before men will be denied before the angels of God. 10 “And anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but to him who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven." Luke 12:8-10 "Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. 23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also." 1 John 2:22,23 I'll not respond to your slander in answer to this, since I already know it is twisted, like a dangerous rope hanging around your neck. Matt 15:18,19 As always, you believe you have this superior position over all, an arrogance of your own you can't perceive; yet, you believe everyone else here is the arrogant, ignorant, evil one. I am sorry for your blindness, both spiritually and psychologically. I really am. I hope you take a step back, Allen, and think of all that you know is WRONG with the organization. Analyze what righteousness is, and truth - real, unadulterated truth, not the whitewashed "truth" you've grown accustom to. Would God expect His Son to provide anything less? John 17:17 Defending an organization full of corruption, sin, and untruths, reflects the heart condition of the one defending it.

About this judgment of spiritual death known as disfellowshipping, and the dispelling of the innocent: “They will put you out of the synagogues; (“congregations”) yes, the time is coming that whoever kills you will think that he offers God service. 3 And these things they will do to you because they have not known the Father nor Me. 4 But these things I have told you, that when the time comes, you may remember that I told you of them.” John 16:2-4 “Do you suppose that I came to give peace on earth? I tell you, not at all, but rather division. 52 For from now on five in one house will be divided: three against two, and two against three. 53 Father will be divided against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.” Luke 12:51-53 “Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.” Matt 5:10-12 Again, Jesus is speaking to his own people – who attended the synagogues where Israel gathered. The false prophet in Revelation 13:11,12,15 directs a “Beast”/organization that spiritually “kills” those who refuse to “worship”/admire the Beast. Rev 13:4 This Beast conquers the anointed ones (spiritual “Israel”) through blasphemy. Rev 13:5-7; 16:13; 17:3 It’s all there, and enacted today in the organization. Those who are “thrown out of the synagogues” for Christ’s sake are ultimately the victorious ones, breaking free of captivity to confusion, the meaning of “Babylon”. Rev 18:4-8

What your leaders are doing by disfellowshipping, "killing" those who serve Christ and not false "christs", fulfills prophesy. Did you think it would never be revealed? Matt 24:24; Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4,9--12; Rev 13:1,2,4-11,14-17; Rev 11:1-3,7; Zech, chapter 4

I fully expected him to say, you are from Mars, I am from Venus...and we're both idiots.

They cast lots, an age old Jewish tradition. When in doubt, cast lots. Does God always answer our prayers according to what we desire? Did the Holy Spirit tell these men to cast lots in order to choose a 12th apostle? No. They decided to choose someone to fill in for Judas, who was never a 12th apostle anyway. Who WAS chosen by Christ to be the 12th apostle and one of the foundations stones of the Temple? 1 Pet 2:5,9; Acts 9:17; 1 Cor 3:10,11; Eph 2:20; Rev 21:14 ("twelve foundations") When it involves choosing a living stone for His Temple, God makes the choice, not men. Who is hating who? Who condones the spiritual "killing" of their own brother in Christ? John 16:2; Rev 13:15 I certainly don't have that power. You are saying all those anointed ones who defend Christ's words over the words of a false "christ", are not anointed. Mark 13:22 Wow. You judge on the same plane as they do. Falsely, and in blasphemy. Mark 13:22; Rom 14:4; 1 John 3:10-12 You speak of Jesus, but you do not recognize God's true Temple built with living stones on his Body. Isa 43:10;1 Pet 2:5,9,10 Instead, you support "Jehovah's spiritual temple"/organization - an idol. Rom 1:25; Rev 13:4 So, in other words, you support false christs who preach another Jesus; and you put up with it, fulfilling your need to organize according to the desires of men. 2 Cor 11:4; James 3:15

I have never added to or taken away from God's Word. That is WT's strong suit. Do you need examples?

The key is, JESUS told the 70 men to go by 2. Not a panel of 8 men who consistently change their doctrine. Not an elder body appointed by 8 men who consistently change their doctrine. (they are “drunk” on their own brand of “wine”/spirit/teachings, Matt 24:48-51) He said the Father would send the Helper in his name, not develop an organization on the earth where Satan has a field day with confusion and deceit…to assist in preaching truth; the good news. John 14:26 Those who are given this help, testify about Christ – not about an organization! John 15:26 Let me specify. During the last days, who receives the “good news”? Matt 10:6,23; Rev 11:1-3 - “Israel”…the royal priesthood…the “remnant”…the “Temple” of God…the “kings of the earth. (1 Cor 3:16,17; Rev 5:9,10) Why? God’s anointed are “conquered”. (“overcome, conquered”, “prevail”, “get the victory “) Rev 13:7 Has the Watchtower made this known to God’s people? That the anointed are overcome during the last days by a false prophet and its Beast/organization? (evidence of deceit) Revelation chapter 13; Dan 12:7 Do not let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and who exalts himself over every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits down in the temple of God, proclaiming that he himself is God. 2 Thess 2:3,4 Who has replaced God’s priesthood? The Temple of God? (1 Pet 2:5,9,10; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22) Who “represent the royal priesthood”? The elder body, at the heart of the organization, who have the power to inflict pain and suffering on their “victims” – those anointed not “sealed” in the heavens, as well as all JWs with them. Rev 9:2-6; 13:1,2,5,6 On the surface, does it appear that the anointed are overcome, or conquered? Luke 21:8; Col 2:8; Rev 13:10 No, because it comes in the form of deceit. Rev 16:12-14 A “spiritual paradise” masks the reality. 1 Thess 5:3 The anointed know they must preach. So, conveniently, the Watchtower “preaches” a basic truth, yet it is riddled with lies and failures. Once “in”, having been captivated by what initially seems “the truth”, they are caught in the web of deceit. Jesus warned us that it would happen in the last days. Matt 24:3-5 The organization becomes their god of salvation, inseparable from the true God. Isa 46:5 This isn’t new, but a repeat of history in the nation of Israel, mixing idolatry with worship to God. 2 Kings 17:7-12 However, the minute an anointed one stands up and speaks truth by recognizing their true Head, Jesus Christ. What happens? If any desire to heed Christ’s words, they are judged by this counterfeit priesthood as “dead”. “And it was given to him to put breath into the image of the beast, in order that the image of the beast both spoke and caused that all those, unless they worshiped the image of the beast, should be killed. “ Rev 13:15 Can YOU separate God from the organization? Your words say no. Before the Watchtower came along, was salvation possible for true believers who listened to Christ and worshiped in “spirit and truth”? Of course! John 4:23,24 So, what changed? A working "delusion" came into existence to "trample" the elect by using deceit. 2 Thess 2:3,4,9-12; Matt 24:15; Rev 11:1-3 The “good news” during these last days, is the redemption of “Jacob”/”Israel” for their sins of listening to lies and believing an organization is the way to salvation. Rev 3:18; 18:4-8 “Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, And declare it in the isles afar off, and say, ‘He who scattered Israel will gather him, And keep him as a shepherd does his flock.’ 11 For the Lord has redeemed Jacob, And ransomed him from the hand of one stronger than he. Jer 30:10,11 Redemption doesn’t happen if one remains where deceit and false doctrine exists. (failed doctrine are falsehoods; which are simply, spiritual darkness) We accept God’s gift by turning away from “organization” by men and worship in spirit and truth. Isa 42:7,8; 29:18; Acts 26:18

The apostles were not organized according to men's standards, but by the standards of God's Holy Spirit. What we see as "organized" is by the structured standards established for centuries. Today, we see organizations everywhere, with their set of guidelines, rules and authority. So, we believe this is how something as important as preaching must be done. Yet, God's ways are not man's ways, as we can see by the apostles driven solely by Holy Spirit. Acts 16:6,7; 20:22,23; 8:29,30; Isa 55:8,9 (Ps 50:21) Can men who think they can run a preaching work by their standards, be giving the right message? With the WT, the message has been altered so many times, surely it is obvious the Holy Spirit isn't the driving force behind the "preaching work". And, what if their message isn't reaching those whom Jesus expected it to? Matt 10:6,23; Rev 11:1-3