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    Witness got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in Belgium: Police descend on Jehovah's Witness HQ after abuse allegations   
    "Police executed a search warrant last week at the headquarters of the Jehovah's Witnesses in Kraainem just outside Brussels, the VRT reports. The news was confirmed by the federal prosecutor's office."
    http://brusselstimes.com/belgium/justice/15271/police-descend-on-jehovah-s-witness-hq-after-abuse-allegations

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    Witness got a reaction from Noble Berean in Belgium: Police descend on Jehovah's Witness HQ after abuse allegations   
    The investigation allegedly feared that the revelations in the programme might lead the movement's leaders to destroy incriminating evidence...
     Matt 10:26b - For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known.
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Belgium: Police descend on Jehovah's Witness HQ after abuse allegations   
    "Police executed a search warrant last week at the headquarters of the Jehovah's Witnesses in Kraainem just outside Brussels, the VRT reports. The news was confirmed by the federal prosecutor's office."
    http://brusselstimes.com/belgium/justice/15271/police-descend-on-jehovah-s-witness-hq-after-abuse-allegations

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    Witness got a reaction from Foreigner in THE HOLY PRIESTHOOD AND THEIR ROLE   
    I agree.  This is one reason why I brought up Korah's example and the GB's determination to wiggle around scripture:  
     
    Really, this doesn't surprise me, Allen.  I would not expect anything different from you.   We choose the "fruit" that appeals to the condition of our heart.  Matt 7:15-20; Luke 6:45
    "Let God be true, and every human being a liar.  As it is written:  "So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge".  Rom 3:4
    "For do I now persuade men, or God?  Or do I seek to please men?  For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ".  Gal 1:10
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Foreigner in THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE   
    Jesus "sends" those whom we are to recognize as speaking his words. Mark 9:37; Matt 10:40 Jesus did not send the Governing Body who easily "kill" their own brothers in Christ who cannot accept their lies. Rev 13:15 I don't follow anyone, but Christ.  I am obedient to his word, but you obviously do not know how the true unity and love of the Body works.  If I love a faithful member of that anointed Body, and work with him or her, this doesn't mean that I view that person as God.  
    that there should be no [h]schism in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another. 26 And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it.  1 Cor 12:25,26
    Your wicked slave has no clue what love is that Christ expect the members of his Body to display toward one another.  
    For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another, 12 not as Cain who was of the wicked one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his works were evil and his brother’s righteous. 1 John 3:11,12
    Matt 23:34
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE   
    This WTJWORG  "double-edged sword" statement is interesting. 
    If GB think how some "others" (not them but "others") members have some mental or emotional problems are problematic to be counted as part of This Particular CLASS, that issue can be solved by some medical examinations and interviews of all who made claim they are anointed. If, after they have been put through a medical test, are Not Positive on Something - whatever the test was looking for - they are healthy :)))
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE   
    I'll try to explain what I mean about who are "highly spiritual men" among the anointed.  
    Gerrit Losch, governing body member speaks on JW Broadcast, March 2018: 
    “So whom do you trust?  You fully trust in Jehovah, Jesus, and the “faithful slave”. 
    “This is not to say that the slave is perfect and never makes mistakes, but Jehovah and Jesus trust the imperfect slave who cares for things to the best of his ability AND WITH THE BEST OF MOTIVES.  Shouldn’t we then trust the imperfect slave as well?”
    “To appreciate the extent of Jehovah’s and Jesus’ trust in the faithful slave reflect on what he has promised its members. He has promised them immortality and incorruption. Soon, just before Armageddon the remaining members of the slave will be taken to heaven.”
     “Since Jehovah God and Jesus Christ COMPLETELY trust the faithful and discreet slave, should we not do the same?”
    The rest of the anointed are  not considered part of the “faithful and discreet slave” as a result of “new light”.   How do you feel after reading this?  Do you trust the “faithful and discreet slave” aka “wicked slave” who believe they are most definitely going to heaven to rule with Christ, WHO WILL NOT  REVEAL THIS DECISION UNTIL HE RETURNS? Can uninspired men be given spiritual insight of their own destiny? Matt 25:21  What gives the GB the confidence to say they will “be taken to heaven”?  Prov 16:18   They have judged themselves as “righteous” and they easily judge their “brothers” under them as possibly not righteous. Rom 14:4
    “Do the other sheep need to know the names of all anointed ones still on earth today? No. Why not? Because it is not possible for anyone to know for sure that these ones will get their reward.”  Wt 16/1 pp. 20-26
    Because of men’s doctrinal change, all anointed are not referred to as “faithful” and “discreet”, which is a twist of scripture to gain power over the anointed ones.  Matt 24:48-51   It has helped put doubts in the anointed mind of their calling, as well as anyone who may know them. 
    "So the number includes those who think that they are anointed but are not. For example, some who used to eat the bread and drink the wine later stopped. Others may have mental or emotional problems and believe that they will rule with Christ in heaven."  WT 1/16
     You must trust the GB, because you trust God and Jesus, but don’t trust any other anointed one as worthy of their “heavenly calling”. 
    Only spiritual unstable wicked men relishing power over others would expect us to place our trust in them, as we would trust God and Jesus.  
    Who then is "faithful and discreet"?  Who is spiritually stable?  Who receives their "heavenly reward"?  At this time, it appears only to be 8 men in power over Christ's slaves.  To make this claim proves they are head over the anointed congregation.  Only Christ is the Head of his Body and determines one's salvation.  Col 1:18
    “A lie is a false statement deliberately presented as being true – a falsehood.  A lie is the opposite of the truth.  Lying involves saying something incorrect to a person who is entitled to know the truth about a matter.  But there is also something called a half-truth.  The bible tells Christians to be honest with each other. Now that you have put away deceit, “speak truth”, wrote the apostle Paul at Eph 4:25.  LIES AND HALF TRUTH UNDERMINE TRUST”  Gerrit Losch
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE   
    What a jumbled, incomplete thought. 
    This is what baffles me.  Those anointed who rub shoulders with others in the congregation, can be scrutinized for their behavior, or whether they are really anointed. Their every action may be watched and judged.  However, concerning the GB, I have not heard of their anointing, ( maybe other people have); but it is assumed that they are  anointed because they have taken headship over the anointed Body; thus, It is also assumed that they are highly spiritual, upright men. 
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE   
    This is what baffles me.  Those anointed who rub shoulders with others in the congregation, can be scrutinized for their behavior. Their every action may be watched and judged.  However, concerning the GB, I have not heard of their anointing, ( maybe other people have); but it is assumed that they are because they have taken headship over the anointed Body.  
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    Witness reacted to TrueTomHarley in THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE   
    I missed that, and you are right. It changes the nature of the comment.
    The ol pork chop is right. I do read too fast sometimes & seize upon things that I read too much into. Sorry. 
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE   
    @Witness :Are you questioning God's reason for anointing me? 
    Similar questions in first sight,  but in the same time also two different questions.
    But you are “a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation,+ a people for special possession,+ that you should declare abroad the excellencies”*+ of the One who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light - 1. Peter 2:9
    WTJWORG quote: Such adopted state brings benefits of freedom from “a spirit of slavery causing fear,” replacing it with the confidence of sons; of hope of a heavenly inheritance assured by the witness of God’s spirit. At the same time these spiritual sons are reminded by their adoption that such position is by God’s undeserved kindness and selection rather than by their inherent right. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/pc/r1/lp-e/1200271355/1/0
    @Witness put in front of you @TrueTomHarley adequate question. How that? By this short Bible verse and WTJWORG explanation, questioning: is/was particular "anointing" of some person true or false, it is out of human power of conclusion.
    Tom, you explained your position by saying this:
     Well, if i understand correctly, you Tom not put in question Witness claims she is anointed (but also in the same time not confirm it: Am I questioning it? No. However - and this is key - neither am I confirming it.), but you put in question Did God anointed her: How would I know? I believe, very much/strong, how Witness do not need neither not single one or any of your "confirmation" about it :))) 
    Reason you provide is: I can only observe that your input does not square very well with what I have come to expect of ones anointed.
    I can agree that you, or someone else, may/should has some expectations. We all have some expectations from others, don't we? I guess that you have some expectations from GB too? Or from God himself? Surely, i guess, that you have some doubts about them/that too?! It is normal.
    Main point, as i can see, from Witness question Are you questioning God's reason for anointing me? is: Do you, Tom, want to question God's choice of see me to be anointed??
    Main point, as i can see, from your question Are you questioning that I am anointed is: Do you, Witness, sure about that you are anointed by God?  
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    Witness got a reaction from TrueTomHarley in THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE   
    I must add to that, dancing.  We went to a car show once, where Elvis tunes blared from the speakers, his favorite singer.  He danced and sung his way to each car and gained a hundred or so new friends, who hugged him in return. 
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    Witness got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE   
    God is building His spiritual House, which is soon to be completed.   The early Jews received fair warning of this house to come, when Jesus said,  “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”
    20 Then the Jews said, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?”
    21 But He was speaking of the temple of His body. 22 Therefore, when He had risen from the dead, His disciples remembered that He had said this to them; and they believed the Scripture and the word which Jesus had said.  John 2:19-22
    We remember that Jesus said this after seeing the business conducted in the temple by the moneychangers.  He lashed out in anger; and using a ‘whip of cords’ overturned their tables of money, driving both animals and money-changers out of the temple.  In order to worship at the temple, this corrupt commerce of trade had developed.    
    And He said to those who sold doves, “Take these things away! Do not make My Father’s house a house of merchandise!” 17 Then His disciples remembered that it was written, “Zeal for Your house has eaten Me up.”  John 2:16,17
    Luke 19:46 reads:   Then He taught, saying to them, “Is it not written, ‘My house shall be called A HOUSE OF PRAYER for all nations’? But you have made it a ‘DEN OF THIEVES.’ ”
    The account took place around this time of year, just before the Passover, which was a busy time at the temple and ample opportunity for the Pharisees to take advantage of the people.  They supported high prices to not only exchange foreign currency, but to sell sacrificial offerings of all kinds to those who desired to worship in the temple.  The high priest of the temple, Annas, who held the office with the official high priest Caiaphas, was called by Josephus the historian, “a great hoarder up of money”.  (John 18:13)
    As it was, the “chief cornerstone” of the new Temple God had planned to “build”, was largely rejected by Jews and its leaders.  Matt 23:37,38 
    The Watchtower Insight in the Scriptures comments on “cornerstone”:
    “Paul showed that members of the Christian congregation had been built up “upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, while Christ Jesus himself is the foundation cornerstone,” in union with whom the whole building harmoniously joined together “is growing into A HOLY TEMPLE for Jehovah,” a place for Him to inhabit by spirit.—Eph 2:19-22.”
    Who specifically comprise the Christian congregation?    The Insight Book continues:
    Psalm 118:22 discloses that the stone rejected by the builders would become “the head of the corner” (Heb., roʼsh pin·nahʹ). Jesus quoted and applied this prophecy to himself as “the chief cornerstone” (Gr., ke·pha·leʹ go·niʹas, head of the corner). (Mt 21:42; Mr 12:10, 11; Lu 20:17) Just as the topmost stone of a building is conspicuous, so Jesus Christ is the crowning stone of the Christian congregation OF ANOINTED ONES, which is likened to a SPIRITUAL TEMPLE. Peter also applied Psalm 118:22 to Christ, showing that he was “the stone” rejected by men but chosen by God to become “the head of the corner.”—Ac 4:8-12; see also 1Pe 2:4-7.  
    Is this clear to you, JWs?  Can you see that the anointed “living stones” comprise the Body of Christ who is their Head?  Eph 4:11,12,15; 5:23; To clarify further on Watchtower’s guarded wording, this spiritual temple IS the Temple of God.    1 Pet 2:5-9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; 2 Cor 6:16  
    Please notice your “Examining the Scriptures” for today, Friday, April 19th:
    “The builders,” the Jewish leaders, rejected the Messiah. Their rejection was far more than just turning their backs on Jesus or refusing to accept him as the Christ. Many Jews rejected him to the point of clamoring for his death. (Luke 23:18-23) Yes, they contributed to Jesus’ being killed. If Jesus was rejected and killed, how could he become “the chief cornerstone”? That could come about only by his being resurrected to life again. The apostle Peter spoke of “Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you executed on a stake but whom God raised up from the dead.” (Acts 3:15; 4:5-11; 1 Pet. 2:5-7) This resurrected Son thus became the only one whose name was “given among men by which we must get saved.”—Acts 4:12; Eph. 1:20. W 17.12 9-10 par. 6-9  
    JWs, today’s modern-day Pharisees also do not uphold the chief cornerstone. They do not recognize Jesus as our source of salvation, that he is the only “name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”  Why do I say this? It is because another “cornerstone” has been set in place, and another name for salvation has been devised.   Describing the Hebrew rendition of “cornerstone”, the Insight Book states:
    Some translations use “cornerstone(s)” to render a Hebrew word (pin·nahʹ), which carries the basic thought of “corner” but is also used metaphorically for a chief as a ‘corner’ of defense or support, hence for a KEYMAN. Thus, at Isaiah 19:13 certain translations use “cornerstone(s)” (RS; AT; AS), whereas others use “chiefs” (Le) and “leaders” (Mo), agreeing basically with the New World Translation rendering “keymen.” (See also Jg 20:2;1Sa 14:38; Zec 10:4, where the Hebrew is literally “the corner tower(s),” these being pictorial of important or vital men, or chiefs.) Such an application of ‘corner’ to a keyman seems significant in view of the symbolic application of “cornerstone” in Messianic prophecy. 
    Yes, Jesus is the “keyman, chief, leader”, Head of his anointed Body, who defends his people when they turn to him DIRECTLY for support. Isa 40:10,11; Dan 12:1; Joel 2:11; John 10:11;1 Pet 5:4; Rev 3:12; 19:11   However, is HE the head of the Watchtower organization as well?  Is HE the High Priest of a corporation when we know he rejected all earthly treasures and power offered to him by Satan? Matt 4:8-10; Heb 7:26; 9:11   
     Absolutely not.
    His authority has been seized, specifically over his anointed “living stones”.  They obey whom they physically see – new keymen, new leaders over a new, spiritual “temple” comprised of a congregation of people from all tribes, tongues and nations. Isa 51:23; Luke 18:8; 2 Cor 11:4; 1 Cor 3:11; Rev 13:1,5-8 
    These new “chiefs” are as well accepted as the high priest Annas was.  Josephus states - “he increased in glory every day, and this to a great degree, and had obtained the favor and esteem of the citizens in a signal manner”. 
    Let’s see what this new spiritual temple is called:
    “Today, millions join in true worship, and they are moved from the heart to contribute their “valuable things,” which include their time, energy, and resources in support of JEHOVAH’S GREAT SPIRITUAL TEMPLE. (Prov. 3:9) .
    All that has been accomplished for true worship in these last days is tangible evidence of Jehovah’s blessing and Christ’s leadership. WE ARE PART OF A STABLE, SECURE, AND EVERLASTING ORGANIZATION.Wt 17.1029
    Scattered among these millions of people are members of God’s priesthood, but barely recognized as belonging to the authentic temple in Christ.  Your “builders” who have raised a “great spiritual temple” or “mountainlike organization” and which looms over all with threats to shun nonconformists, is prophesied to come against the anointed remnant in the last days.  This is the stark, dark reality hidden under its attractive veneer, JWs.  Dan 11:37-39; Rev 20:7-9; Rev 8:8; Zech 4:7,9  
     With human help, Satan has accomplished his great feat, which is to dissolve all knowledge of God’s authentic Temple in Christ. Dan 8:13,24; 7:25; 12:7; Rev 11:1,2  Revelation calls it the dragon’s “Beast from the Sea”; which is directed by a composite “false prophet”/Beast with “two horns”.  Dan 7:7; Rev 13:1,2,11,15 The defining aspect of the Beast from the Sea is its “war” against God’s Temple/sanctuary – against the Temple “stones” that it holds in captivity.  No other worldly organization fulfills this prophesy. Zeph 1:15; 2 Thess 2:4; Rev 13:7,8   
    By WT leaders’ rejection of God’s authentic spiritual Temple in Christ, they have rejected the “chief cornerstone”, replacing him with themselves as “keymen” who direct a counterfeit priesthood to rule over God’s authentic priests, effectively trampling down their existence.    Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2; Rev 13:14,15; 19:20
    Refer again to Friday’s “daily text” –
    Their rejection was far more than just turning their backs on Jesus or refusing to accept him as the Christ.  Many Jews rejected him to the point of clamoring for his death. (Luke 23:18-23) Yes, they contributed to Jesus’ being killed. If Jesus was rejected and killed, how could he become “the chief cornerstone”?
    Another “killing” is occurring at the hands of your leaders, JWs; that of the “ambassadors of Christ”. 2 Cor 5:20   For those bold enough to speak truth about the existence of God’s Temple and its only Head, they are “killed”, disfellowshipped by “uncircumcised” elders.   Luke 21:12; John 16:2; Rev 11:7; 13:15; Rom 2:28,29    It is not a matter of ‘just turning their backs’, on anointed who speak truth, but it is a swift judgment of spiritual “death”. Prov 19:6,7; Isa 66:5; Rom 14:4 
    For those brave enough to say there is “no other name under heaven by which we must get saved” which is a total rejection of the IDOL, they lose the life they have known for the sake of their Head, Jesus Christ. Matt 5:11; 10:22; 16:25 Many fellow believers in Christ have suffered the same outcome.  Matt 10:39 
    JWs, thievery is being committed by your leaders on many fronts. Col 2:8 You, personally, have been robbed of the knowledge of Christ, his priesthood and the Temple of God.  Matt 11:28; John 4:10; Rom 8:16,17,19 
     Under the rule of a “wicked slave”, you have been robbed of each anointed one’s gift given them, to serve the children of God. Mal 2:7; Luke 16:1-3; Matt 24:48-51; 1 Cor 12:4-11; Eph 4:16; Rev 22:17  
    You have been robbed of the blessings of priestly sacrifices made to God, that are now replaced with sacrifices to an idol. Dan 8:11,12,38; Ezek 8:5-10   
    You now put your faith in an organization, breaking the law of God, which requires giving Him exclusive devotion. Exod 20:5; Isa 42:8; 46:5; Mark 12:29,30; Rev 13:8 
    Even though you may speak of God and Jesus Christ, you believe that salvation is obtainable from the organization, as long as you obey the direction of its “keymen”.    Rev 13:4, 11-14
    On the “steps” of God’s Temple in the anointed ones, Watchtower leaders have positioned a “marketplace” for their idol, where JWs “buy” spiritual food; bought not only with literal donations, but with physical slavery in order to be privileged to worship there. Matt 6:24; Rom 6:16; Rev 13:16,17  How many times do JWs hear, “what a privilege it is to serve in Jehovah’s organization”?  
    Sadly, Christ’s priests are engaging in the same idolatrous worship, robbing themselves not only of the refined gold that Christ offers if they would just open the door, but they will lose their place in the Temple of God.  Rev 2:20; Matt 25:6-13; Dan 11:35; Rev 3:18; Matt 21:42-44    
    Please, for any JW reading this, consider these excerpts from Pearl Doxsey’s article, “YHVH’S GENUINE MOUNTAIN”:
    Satan has the power to create "mountains" during his present reign over the world (1 John 5:19; Rev 17:9).
    "Again, the devil took him to an exceedingly high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world, and their glory." Matt 4:8
    These mountains, include religious ones (Rev 17:9).
    Yhwh says that in the time of the end, there is a mountain which must become level ground...IN PREPARATION FOR THE KINGDOM...
    [...a mountain which God will destroy; (Zech 4:7; Rev 8:8)].
    We must be certain that we are not putting our trust in the counterfeit mountain.
    (Luke 3:5; Mal 3:1; Rev 14:6,7; Isa 46:11; Haggai 2:7) (Rev 13:8; 16:2)  
    Counterfeit mountain?
    Yes.

    The scriptures also tell us of a TRUE Mountain which DOES provide shelter and salvation. Survival depends upon the guidance of scripture, to give us the ability to discern the Genuine, from the Counterfeit.
    Is the Organization made up of the 144,000? 
    Or,
    is its backbone and body almost entirely made up of those who are not even Chosen Ones? Who do you see as representatives of the Organization within your own Congregation?....the anointed "ambassadors" of Christ (2 Cor 5:20; Rom 2:29; 1 Cor 6:2,3), or spiritual Gentiles (Elders) who have raised themselves up over God's Chosen Priests? (2 Thess 2:4; Rev 11:1,2; Mark 13:14)   

    "Now faith is confidence in what we HOPE FOR and assurance about WHAT WE DO NOT SEE. 2 This is what the ancients were commended for. By faith Abraham, when called to go to a place he would later receive as his inheritance, obeyed and went, even though he did not know where he was going. 10 For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, WHOSE ARCHITECT AND BUILDER IS GOD. they were longing for a better country—a HEAVENLY one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for HE HAS PREPARED A CITY for them."  Heb 11:1,2,8,10,16; Rev 21:2   

    So...does YHWH have a "mountainlike" Organization?
    Yes. An administration of priests, "hand-picked" by God to become heirs of the earth, to the blessing of all Creation.   (Eph 1:9-12; 1 Pet 2:9,10; Rom 8:19; Gal 3:29; Gen 13:14; 28:14; Heb 2:5,16; Rev 22:1,2; Eze 34:27)
    JWs, when you observe your Memorial of the New Covenant that Jesus, the fulfilled promise of a seed to the nation of Israel, established with the foundation stones of his anointed Temple, remember that the sealed anointed are also a promise for a seed…  Rom 9:8; Gal 3:7,14,29; 4:28,31,26; Heb 11:26; Isa 61:8 
    Pearl Doxsey continues:     
    “When that seed arrives, the covenant is fulfilled .  (Rom 8:24,25; Rev 12:1,2,5; 2:26,27)
    Those who accept and "listen to" that seed, "bless themselves"  (Jer 12:16; Matt 5:14; 10:40; 1 Tim 4:16; Gen 17:7,19; Luke 1:55)
    These will be appointed over all the earth (Gen 28:13,14; 13:14; Ps 2:8; 45:16; Matt 24:46,47; Rev 5:10; 20:6)
    Those who persecute and destroy that seed, are in turn, destroyed . (Isa 57:13; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Rev 11:7; 20:10,14; 2 Thess 2:8)
    So you see, the New Covenant/Promise, also becomes fulfilled, and ends . (Mark 14:24; 1 Cor 11:26; Heb 1:6; 10:13; Rev 5:9,10; Eph 1:4-12; Rev 7:4; 14:1)
    At that time, the building of GOD’S spiritual house, will be finished. 
     
    Pearl Doxsey, 4womaninthewilderness blogspot
    “Jew” or “Gentile”?
    “End of the New Covenant”
     
     
     


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    Witness got a reaction from Thinking in THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE   
    I believe you have asked me this before, and I wonder why you ask again.   
    I would pray for the power to open all eyes of those who revere the organization. Rev 13:4  I would pray for the power to open all hearts to love and serve only the Father and the Son, not men who rule with an iron fist in a velvet glove; that people like yourself would desire to see through the WT glittery veneer and heed Rev 18:4-8, before its too late. Jer 51:6; Matt 22:36-40; (Rev 11:3)
     No human would be given the power to change prophesy, yet the WT leaders are trying very hard to do so.  Dan 7:25; 2 Thess 2:1-4; 1 Thess 5:3  I would never ask for such a thing.  Rev 1:3; 22:18,19
     
    Of course, the power to read hearts is the Father's.  The power to save righteous-hearted ones, is Christ.  
    My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and My Father are one.”  John 10:27-29
     
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    Witness got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE   
    Much better, now that I recognize the difference between a wicked slave and one of Christ's faithful slaves.   
    It must be difficult for you to sleep, knowing you must keep up with all of your ruses.  
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    Witness got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE   
    @BillyTheKid46 aka Allen Smith.  I'm just wondering why you have @Foreigner click the angry red arrows for you?  I marvel at your game-playing.  
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    Witness got a reaction from BillyTheKid46 in THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE   
    When I found truth spoken by an actual “inspired” anointed one.
    Mal 3:1-3; Rev 11:1-3; Matt 22:1-4; 25:6-10
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE   
    I am a woman.
    "Does a bird swoop down to a trap on the ground when no bait is there? Does a trap spring up from the ground if it has not caught anything?"  Amos 3:5
    Yes, I was attracted to Watchtower's initial offers of truth; the literal earth to remain forever, with people living in a righteous setting.  
    I wanted to believe they did it right, since their offer of some truth was appealing.  I put on blinders to block out the hypocrisy, which my husband as an elder,  was very receptive to, and regularly pointed it out.  
     
    When an author does his research, doesn't he usually dig for his facts?  Don't be afraid to go to the link.  You'll recognize my experience.  
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    Witness reacted to JW Insider in THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE   
    BillyTheKid46 would never say anything like that; he'd say:
    JWTheologian would say it more like:
    Oh, look, the forum still has a few quotes from the original AllenSmith, which is completely different.
    It was pretty obvious immediately who @Hankulan Tunani was, even a few months ago, well before this persona was just brought back again with a hyphen: @Hankulan-Tunani to continue the same quest.
    I'm just letting you know in case you actually believed that all these (and many other) personas are fooling a lot of people. This way you might not feel the need to waste so much of your time trying to differentiate so many different personas. I still vote that we bring back the original Allen Smith with all his past "upvotes," too.
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE   
    It's not the arrows that matter, whether up or down.  It is consistent honesty and integrity, which the three identities in one, appear to lack.  The arrows help identify the character.  
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE   
    Hi, I also wonder, why @Foreigner giving me so much red arrows too ? ...... and not giving any comments on my post, just downvote reaction :))))) perhaps man only know to read and not to write. Even i can write with my poor English  :))))))) 
    Thank you very much, to all who reading my comments and have understanding and patience for my grammar  
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE   
    This made me curious and i went on jworglibrary to find something with word "celebrate" about Last Supper. Here is just one article that not using such terminology, but who knows, perhaps some other did.
    Why Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Observe the Lord’s Supper Differently From the Way Other Religions Do? - source: https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/lords-supper/
    our observance ....showing our gratitude..... to commemorate........Jesus said: “Keep doing this in remembrance of me,”........When Jehovah’s Witnesses observe the Lord’s Evening Meal
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Foreigner in THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE   
    @BillyTheKid46 aka Allen Smith.  I'm just wondering why you have @Foreigner click the angry red arrows for you?  I marvel at your game-playing.  
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    Witness got a reaction from Foreigner in THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE   
    I did explained what would happen briefly in this related topic, based on your expression.
    It is toward the bottom of my comment, beginning:
    Fast forward to who will disfellowship the Governing Body.  It will be the organization itself. 
     
     
     
    However, I’ll say it again, as straightforward and simply as possible.  Indeed, there will be a posse to come against the Governing Body to oust them. 
    If you have ever read any of my posts you would know that I believe the two Beasts of Revelation 13 are the organization (Beast from the Sea) and the governing body (Beast with two horns like a lamb but spoke like a dragon).  Rev 13:1,11
    The Beast from the Sea is spirit-directed – “spirit-breathed”.  It is deemed such, by the composite false prophet.  Rev 13:15
    This Beast overcomes the anointed ones – “kings of the earth”. (Rev 1:5)   It blasphemes the Temple/sanctuary of God, which is so obvious in recent pages of the Watchtower.
    This Beast is directed by the false prophet to…
    symbolically “kill” all who do not recognize, worship, adore, it.  Disfellowship them, which is a spiritual "death".  
    Because of the many sins of the false prophet that come to light, the Beast from the Sea/organization joins with a symbolic "ten" anointed ones to gets rid of the false prophet/Harlot . Rev 17:12-14
    What next?
    The organization/Beast will be under a revised ruler-ship of both anointed and elders not anointed.  It will exist for a symbolic “one hour” without the false prophet/governing body.  Rev 17:12,13
    After which, John says,
     “And I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army. 20 Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.” Rev 19:19,20
    There are “kings of the earth” on both sides of the Watchtower walls.  Those who have been disfellowshipped for rejecting the Beast’s “mark”/identity, and those who remain inside, submissive to human rule, which is lawlessness.  2 Thess 2:3,4
    Will they leave lawlessness and side with Christ in this battle?  Or, will these "kings" love the organization more than God?  More than their appointed Head?  Can you see the sides develop in this spiritual war?  Col 2:8; Eph 6:12
    Michael stands up for his people, whose name means, "Who is like God"  Dan 12:1
    What is the general tone of the Watchtower?  "Who/what can compare to "Jehovah's organization"...."Who is like the Beast?  Who is able to make war with him?"  Rev 13:4
    This is the divisive battle of Armageddon.  It isn't  fought in Satan’s world of ruler-ship while God’s anointed Ambassadors of Christ must obey those who “represent” them - the elder body.  Any who believe this, have been thoroughly deceived.   2 Thess 2:3,4,9-12; Rev 13:18
    Matt 24:15,16
     
    Rev 18:4-8 doesn’t apply to those in Christendom, but speaks to the anointed and companions under the Harlot and Beast.   It says, come out of her, MY PEOPLE, God's "Israel".  
    MY PEOPLE:  Isa 43:10-13; 1 Pet. 2:9,10; 2 Cor 6:16; Heb 8:10
     
     
     
     
     
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