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    Witness got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in GB MEMBER KENNETH COOK, JR. AND THE WATCHTOWER HOUSE   
    Did you know that the anointed who are under covenant with God are referred to as “gods”?  They are “living stones” of God’s Temple. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17 They are the firstborn/firstfruits sons of God.  If they become one with Christ as his Bride, would they not be gods?   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Pet+2%3A5%2C9%3B+1+Cor+3%3A16%2C17+&version=NKJV
    I said, "You are gods; you are all sons of the Most High.  Ps 82:6
    John 10:34-36 -
    "Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’?  If he called them ‘gods,’ toward whom the word of God came —
    Those who received the word of God were God's people under covenant:   Jude1:3; Matt.25:14; 13:11; 11:25,27; 16:17; 1Cor.4:1,2; 2:10; 1Pet.1:12,25; Eph.3:10; Isa.53:1; Amos3:7; Gal.1:11,12; John3:11   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jude1%3A3%3B+Matt.25%3A14%3B+13%3A11%3B+11%3A25%2C27%3B+16%3A17%3B+1Cor.4%3A1%2C2%3B+2%3A10%3B+1Pet.1%3A12%2C25%3B+Eph.3%3A10%3B+Isa.53%3A1%3B+Amos3%3A7%3B+Gal.1%3A11%2C12%3B+John3%3A11&version=NKJV
    and Scripture cannot be set aside—  what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? John1:14,9; 18:37; 7:16; 12:49  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John1%3A14%2C9%3B+18%3A37%3B+7%3A16%3B+12%3A49&version=NKJV
    Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?" John 10:34-36 
    The page number is my mistake.  I am sorry.   It is in Chapter 18, under the subheading of “The Meaning of your Baptism” starting on page 182.  Paragraph 24 is where the quote comes from. 
    There is a web page that I have given you.  It has thousands of visitors each day who read and learn.  Most do not state their name, because Christ knows who the faithful are, who are hungry and who want understanding.  Yet, on that page are links to facebook pages, where many members are gathering by name.  Not all member are believers, as quite a few are still staunch JWs.  The food is offered, free for the taking. It is up to the heart’s desire to either continue taking in spiritual food or to leave it behind.  It is the Marriage Feast.  Rev 22:17  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+22%3A17&version=NKJV
    We should remember that those whom God calls to expose the sins of His people, are lowly and despised.  They are despised by their own people. Many will not recognize them. 2 Pet 3:4; Luke 19:41,42, Jer 13:17; Matt 13:15; Mark 4:12; Ezek 12:2; Rev 3:3   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Pet+3%3A4%3B+Luke+19%3A41%2C42%2C+Jer+13%3A17%3B+Matt+13%3A15%3B+Mark+4%3A12%3B+Ezek+12%3A2%3B+Rev+3%3A3+&version=NKJV
    The “movement” begins with one individual – Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Elijah, Moses, Micah, Hosea, John the Baptist.   Jesus promised that “Elijah” would restore “all things”. Matt 17:11; Dan 12:4; Rev 11:1-3 What would this one restore?  Truth, that “living stones” are to make known. What does this one reveal?  Lies, that false prophets have taught to seduce “living stones” and companions.  Teachings, that the Temple Body of Christ must come together in unity, which will be manifested in the Kingdom.    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+17%3A11%3B+Dan+12%3A4%3B+Rev+11%3A1-3 &version=NKJV
    To serve God properly does not take a regimented organized commitment to men.   That is influence from Satan’s realm.  Jesus has nothing to do with Satan’s type of “organization”.  God has already organized His form of worship, His Temple, beginning with the foundation stones and the cornerstone, Christ.  1 Cor chapter 12; 1 Cor 3:11; Eph 2:19-22   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Cor+12%3A1-31%3B+1+Cor+3%3A11%3B+Eph+2%3A19-22&version=NKJV
     It requires a desire of the heart to want to align itself with God’s decrees in Christ, and it takes earnest effort.   This is how we worship in spirit and truth, relying on the Father and Jesus’ help in spirit, to lead one to truth which those whom Christ sends (not whom men appoint), provide.  John 4:23,24; John 13:20   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+4%3A23%2C24%3B+John+13%3A20&version=NKJV
    It is the Great Tribulation – different from all other spiritual difficulties God’s people have experienced throughout history. Matt 24:21   Your struggles show it; you are in the process of sifting the truth from the lies.    If God chooses a lowly woman to bless with Holy Spirit and reveal the sins of His people, who are we to question His actions?   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+24%3A21&version=NKJV
      For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called.   But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty; and the base things of the world and the things which are despised, God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are that no flesh should glory in His presence. 1 Cor 1:26-29
    “base things” can mean, “of no family, a man of base birth, a man of no name or reputation”  
    Pearl certainly had no reputation in the organization, as do most anointed ones, as well as myself.  You will know if what one teaches is truth, if everything that person says is backed up with God’s Word and teaches what Christ taught, just as the apostles did.   You already notice the oppression of the anointed in the organization, the trampling of God’s “Temple” by elders Matt 24:14-16; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3   It is a “disgusting thing” that we are to flee from – and we go the “mountains”, “Israel”, represented by the anointed “living stones” of God’s Temple/Zion.  The “prophesy” that “Elijah”  trumpets, is to these “mountains”, to leave their captivity and return to their Head, Jesus Christ. Matt 25:1  And it is to those restored "mountains"/hills, where those leaving the “city”, go, who desire to join the Marriage Feast.  Matt 22:4 
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+24%3A14-16%3B+2+Thess+2%3A3%2C4%3B+Rev+11%3A1-3%3B+Matt+25%3A1%3B+22%3A4+++&version=NKJV
    (See Ezekiel chapter 36   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezek+36&version=NIV)
    The links are to scriptures, which hopefully make it easier to read them.  
    Rev 18:4-8 - And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. 6 Render to her just as she rendered to you, and repay her double according to her works; in the cup which she has mixed, mix double for her. 7 In the measure that she glorified herself and lived luxuriously, in the same measure give her torment and sorrow; for she says in her heart, ‘I sit as queen, and am no widow, and will not see sorrow.’ 8 Therefore her plagues will come in one day—death and mourning and famine. And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the Lord God who judges her.
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Foreigner in Governing body (self) praise and (self) deceiving on global level   
    I noticed 46 "shares" of this comment, Srecko.  Seems to me that people are recognizing GB's hypocrisy enough to pass it on.
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    Witness got a reaction from Foreigner in Governing body (self) praise and (self) deceiving on global level   
    I understand, especially since the GB has tainted everything about Christ’s Truth.
    1 John 4:1 -  "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see if they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world."
    The anointed are compared to trees and their “fruit”, or teachings -
     “Be on your guard against false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravaging wolves. 16 You’ll recognize them by their fruit. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes or figs from thistles?17 In the same way, every good tree produces good fruit, but a bad tree produces bad fruit. 18 A good tree can’t produce bad fruit; neither can a bad tree produce good fruit. 19 Every tree that doesn’t produce good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 So you’ll recognize them by their fruit.  Matt 7:15-20
    It takes effort on our part, to find the good trees.  With God’s Holy Spirit, we will be able to discern “good fruit” from the “bad fruit”.  You are already on your way to doing just that.
    Pearl Doxsey has a “Personal File”.  At the bottom of that page, she describes her anointing experience. 
    pearl -  personalfile . blogspot . com
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Watchtower Article, "Crafty Promoters of Religion"   
    Through the following Watchtower article directed at Christendom, one can perceive the evolution of the organization’s teachings, leading to its present state.  It reveals a troubling story.  The Watchtower once, with confidence, claimed it would not only flourish and grow, but provide abundant spiritual food up to the time of Armageddon.  However, we find the opposite; not only visibly, but spiritually.  I hope you read it, as well as the adjacent comments made by today’s leaders of the Watchtower. I do hope you can discern the organization’s hypocritical stand that has completely emerged over time.  Revelation speaks of “demonic expressions” appearing initially as truth, yet growing into full-fledged lies.  It is a plague of destructive proportions “coming out of the mouth” of the dragon, the false prophet and the beast/organization.  It is compared to a flooding river that overtakes Christ’s “kings” under the New Covenant.    Rev 16:13,14; 12:12,15,16; Matt 24:39; Luke 17:27 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=+Rev+16%3A13%2C14%3B+12%3A12%2C15%2C16%3B+Matt+24%3A39%3B+Luke+17%3A27+&version=CSB
    Rev 16:14 uses the word, ekporeuomai, meaning “which goes forth” describing it as -
    “to flow forth, of a river; to project, from the mouth of one”.  This is in harmony with Rev 12:15, 16
    Pearl Doxsey’s article “Earth Swallows Satan’s River” will give you a clear understanding of this spiritual deluge affecting God’s people during the last days. 
    (4womaninthewilderness blogspot)
    Watchtower, 1953/11/1 pp. 649-652:
    “To promote better church attendance, Christendom’s religions today are using everything from lollipops to cowboy movie stars.”  
    (!!!!   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QxDGtAsKFM   !!!!)
    It continues:
    “Why must the clergy now resort to crafty promotional schemes, even eye-catching antics? This inability to attract people by the message preached prompts the thought that there MUST BE SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE RELIGIOUS FODDER dished out from the pulpit to Christendom’s pew-sitters. IF they are being served sound spiritual food, why should there be any lack of attraction, an apathetic flock? Could it be that there is a SPIRITUAL FAMINE in the land called Christendom?   But from the name Christendom ASSUMES, one may imagine that it has an ABUNDANCE OF SPIRITUAL FOOD.”
    Not only do JWs assume that all in the organization are God’s Chosen witnesses,  (Isa 43:10; 1 Pet 2:5,9,10; Rev 5:9,10), they assume their leaders are “faithful and discreet”, able to provide life-giving spiritual food.  Matt 24:24; Isa 5:20-23; Matt 24:45-51  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isa+43%3A10%3B+1+Pet+2%3A5%2C9%2C10%3B+Rev+5%3A9%2C10%3BMatt+24%3A24%3B+Isa+5%3A20-23%3B+Matt+24%3A45-51++&version=CSB
    Present day Watchtower, 2019 March pg 13:     “Jehovah is still speaking to us today. (Read Isaiah 30:21.) True, we do not hear God speak to us from heaven. He has, however, provided his written Word, the Bible, in which he gives us instruction. Additionally, Jehovah’s spirit MOVES “the faithful steward” to keep giving His servants their food supply. (Luke 12:42) WHAT AN ABUNDANCE OF SPIRITUAL FOOD we receive in the form of printed and online material, videos and audio publications!”    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isa+30%3A21%3B+Luke+12%3A42&version=NKJV
    We have a new year of confusing teachings.  If God’s spirit “moves” the governing body to produce spiritual food, then indeed, they would be “inspired”; as “inspiration” influences, suggests, or moves an individual “to receive and communicate sacred revelation”, according to Merriam Webster dictionary.  However, two years ago, we were told this wasn’t the case.  (w17 February pp. 23-28) 
    Back in time to 1953 – “Yet when the clergy open their religious larders, the only abundance that presents itself is that of book reviews, tricks of magic, jazz bands, bingo games, lotteries, masquerade parties, coffee-and-doughnut socials, gas-filled balloons, and the BUFFOONERY of circus clowns. So one may rightly ask, Has the spiritual famine foretold by God’s prophet blighted Christendom?—“Behold, the days come, saith the Lord Jehovah, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of Jehovah.”—Amos 8:11
     Please remember, JWs, Amos’ prophetic words apply to Israel and their fall into idolatry. Amos 8:1,2,13,14 (Gal 6:16; Rom 2:29; 9:6) Since God’s word is consistent, it is not Christendom that He is speaking of, but of spiritual “Israel” – His anointed people under covenant today. (Gal 4:26) They have supplanted the true God with the Wild Beast/organization. Isa 43:11; Rev 13:1,6,7,4 Once again, God’s nation has fallen into idolatry.  They have allowed a Wicked Steward and its false priesthood to cut off the spiritual “bread” they would otherwise receive from their Master, Christ.  Matt 24:48-51; Rev 6:5-8  
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Amos+8%3A1%2C2%2C13%2C14%3B+Gal+6%3A16%3B+Rom+2%3A29%2C9%2C6%3B+Gal+4%3A26%3B+Isa+43%3A11%3B+Rev+13%3A1%2C6%2C7%2C4%3B+Matt+24%3A48-51%3B+Rev+6%3A5-8+++&version=CSB
    Pearl Doxsey:  “When Rev.6:6 tells us, "DO NOT HARM THE OLIVE OIL AND WINE”; perhaps you know from my past writings about this... that "olive oil" stands for Holy Spirit which acts as fuel for spiritual enlightenment (Matt.25:7,8; Heb.1:9; Psalm23:5; Zech.4:12,14; Rev.11:3,4).
    Under this plague (caused by the "Wild Beast"/"Man of Lawlessness" 2Thess.2:4), it RESTRAINS the partaking of HOLY SPIRIT and it's ENLIGHTENMENT[but allows ONLY ITS OWN SPIRITUAL COMMERCE, based upon lies (Rev.13:17; 2Thess.2:7,10; Amos 8:11)]. 
    "Buying" is the acquisition of divine favor, guidance, stature, and instruction.
    It is acquired by what one trades for it (or sells)...one's devotion, obedience, and honor (Rev.13:3,8).
    Organized religion requires conformity and servitude to it's doctrines and leadership.
    If you sell these away to men, they will give you approval and spiritual food.
    This entire commerce is corrupt. All these things belong to Christ, and not to men, who exploit these things for their own glory and power. Who rightly owns our subjection and loyalty?
    These should only be given to God and His Christ. (Rev.3:18; Mark8:34,35; 10:21; Matt.16:24)”  
    (“Daily Bread”)
    Watchtower 2015/11/15, pp 24,25:  “The scope of the preaching work is remarkable. Our Bible-based literature is now published in over 700 languages. The Watchtower is the most widely distributed magazine in the world. Over 52,000,000 copies are printed each month, and the magazine is published in 247 languages.”
    Remarkable?  Two years from such a confident claim, this widely distributed abundant food, is compared to an over-filled “tool shed”. 
    Anthony Morris, during the 2017 Annual Meeting:
    “We have so many tools to be used in the ministry it can be overwhelming and confusing, even to the best minds.  Our teaching tool box that we’ve emphasized in recent years, what happened, it became a huge tool shed.  A lot of you are nodding your heads.  That’s okay, it’s not disloyal, it’s true.”
    Apparently, there is a limit.  Too much of a “good thing” has caused more harm than good. Eccl 12:11-14; John 7:16-18; 15:16   Morris admits it is confusion; which is the meaning of “Babylon”, the covenant promise of death the false prophet/Harlot of Revelation 13:11 entered into, when leaving truth in Christ.   Isa 28:14,15; John 15:4; Rev 9:1;17:5 Should the truth in scripture be confusing to teach?  Gal 1:6-9 ; 2 Cor 11:3   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Eccl+12%3A11-14%3B+John+7%3A16-18%3B+15%3A16%3B++Isa+28%3A14%2C15%3B+John+15%3A4%3B+Rev+9%3A1%3B17%3A5%3B+Rev+13%3A11%3B+Gal+1%3A6-9+%3B+2+Cor+11%3A3+++&version=CSB
    To alleviate this over-abundant production of confusion, the governing body put their heads together and came up with a plan: 
    Mr. Morris:  “In view of this, the governing body is adjusting the focus of our ministry.  You’re getting the message addressing these two problems.  We are one hundred percent with this unanimous, everybody in the department’s connected, are with it.  They can sense Jehovah’s spirit moving and this is what Jehovah’s doing.  It’s his chariot, he’s the driver.  So, here’s the adjustments.  Starting January 2018, there will only be three public editions of the Watchtower (pause and chuckle)  For those that are tied in and heard some expressions down front, couldn’t help it…Only three public editions of the WT and three of the Awake magazines, the whole year. Yeah, I’m excited too. (chuckling).  Uhh, I really am (chuckling).   And what’s beautiful about this, they’re gonna cover one subject in the whole magazine. Start to finish, see.  One subject.” 
    Watchtower’s larder includes a vast amount rotten food, or “fruit”; discarded teachings that must be purged. The reduction of magazines may signify financial resources are also shriveling up.  Yet, think of the donations and service given by millions of JWs over the years which aided in filling this storeroom, only to see it come to naught. I would think an alarm would be going off in the minds of those listening to Mr. Morris choking on his own words.  Ps 36:1-4  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+36%3A1-4&version=CSB
    “A good person produces good things from his storeroom of good, and an evil person produces evil things from his storeroom of evil. 36 I tell you that on the day of judgment people will have to account for every careless word they speak. 37 For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.”  Matt 12:35-37     Luke 6:45; 1 Tim 4:16; Matt 7:15-20  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+6%3A45%3B+1+Tim+4%3A16%3B+Matt+7%3A15-20++&version=CSB 
    Will JWs heed the warning signs of “famine” in the Watchtower? 
    As a young woman who loved the outdoors, I took a wrong turn on a trail in a wilderness area in the far northern reaches of California.  I was hiking alone in beautiful surroundings; most certain I would be back home by the time the sun set. The trail I was on showed little use and eventually became indiscernible from brush growth. I found myself lost, confused and hungry for three and half days, making both right and wrong decisions in my determination to find my way back out.  I searched for anything that looked possibly edible; from berries to the questionable choices, along with water.  On the afternoon of the fourth day, I had found the proximity of where I believed I had left my car.  A family who happened to be the only people in the area, was finishing up their sight-seeing and thankfully aided my return home.    Although famished, my body wouldn’t accept any real food immediately, growing accustomed to the lack of food intake.    It took a while to gain ground and feel stable again, both physically and emotionally.   
    I equate this experience in some ways, to God’s priesthood and companions in the organization.  They accept any food they receive from the Wicked Slave, under a regulated commerce of distribution by the elder body – Man of Lawlessness – that rules over the anointed Temple/priests. 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2; 13:7; Matt 24:15; 1 Cor 3:16,17  They are blinded to their own starvation as they continue to extend service to the organization’s needs. Ps 14:2-4; Matt 6:24; Rom 6:16; Gal 1:10  Their senses have become dulled, accepting any and all gleanings of spiritual food and “water” that is offered. Rev 8:10,11  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Thess+2%3A3%2C4%3B+Rev+11%3A1%2C2%3B+13%3A7%3B+Matt+24%3A15%3B+1+Cor+3%3A16%2C17%3BPs+14%3A2-4%3B+Matt+6%3A24%3B+Rom+6%3A16%3B+Gal+1%3A10%3B+Rev+8%3A10%2C11%3B&version=CSB
    How long can any JW survive in such a spiritually harsh environment, no matter how beautiful and appealing it may appear?  When I left the Watchtower, I remembered again the experience of being lost in the wilderness; the disappointment, frustration and anger I felt for taking another serious life-altering turn; deeply regretting the many years of accepting whatever I was spiritually fed. Although emotions run high in those leaving the organization, many of us don’t realize our state of spiritual starvation. For those of us who begin pursuing authentic truth, we are conscience-striken, for our previous acts of idolatry against God. Ps 38:4-8;17,18,21,22; 2 Pet 3:9  We are keen to the need of spiritual sustenance, and endeavor to rebuild our spiritual resources, to become stable and confident in our faith toward God and Christ.  Ps 25:8-11  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ps+38%3A4-8%3B17%2C18%2C21%2C22%3B+2+Pet+3%3A9%3B+Ps+25%3A8-11++&version=CSB 
    I consider my time in the wilderness a disciplinary learning curve, to take the necessary precautions for future outings.  Our time in the Watchtower “wilderness” can sharpen our spiritual senses, bringing them in harmony with Christ’s truths.  Deut 8:2; Luke 22:31; Dan 7:25; 12:7; James 1:1-4; Rev 2:10; 13:7,10 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deut+8%3A2%3B+Luke+22%3A31%3B+Dan+7%3A25%3B+12%3A7%3B+James+1%3A1-4%3B+Rev+2%3A10%3B+13%3A7%2C10&version=CSB
    Pearl Doxsey:   “What then of the prophesied famine? (Amos 8:11)
    This "famine" is not for literal food, but for the spiritual bread of our present discussion (Amos8:11; 2Chron.15:3; Ps.74:9; Lev.26:26;Eze.4:10,11,12,13; Rev.6:5,6)  
    Dan.12:4 tells us that in the time of the end, "many" will rove about seeking spiritual food, due to the famine 
    (Rev.6:5,6,8; 18:8; 13:17; Isa.55:2).  
    But most will not find the bread of life (Dan.12:4; Amos8:12,11; 2Tim.3:7; Rev.6:5,6; Matt.7:13,14), despite the work of the faithful to provide the very "food" they themselves are receiving (Isa.65:13; Luke12:37,42,43,44) from Christ (John15:15,4,5,8).  
    (“A Hidden Famine, A Hidden Feast”) 
    Let’s return to the Watchtower of 1953:
    “With Christendom’s clergy having difficulty in attracting adult pew-sitters,  it was rather ironical when a church in Pacific Beach, California, asked parents: “Are you having trouble getting your children interested in going to Sunday School regularly?” If they did, there was an ecclesiastical side show to enkindle interest. Called Operation 333, it was a puppet show. However, a traveling Baptist minister uses the side-show technique in order to appeal to young and old alike. In his revival meetings he uses four wooden dummies and his art of ventriloquism. Now he finds it easier to attract and hold an audience.”
    Caleb, Sophia and their parents, a creative “side-show technique”, has come to life in the minds of JW children; the brainchild of the governing body, or perhaps only the member in the group photo attached.  Keep in mind, these men declare themselves “faithful and discreet”, meaning faithful to Christ and his teachings by using God’s Word WISELY.  Prov 3:7;  Matt 24:5,4,24,25; 1 Tim 4:1  
    (“Who are the Fine Trees?” – 4womaninthewilderness blog)
    Wt 1953 – “Occasionally, an individual church awakens to the fact that its problem of EMPTY PEWS cannot be solved by CRAFTY PROMOTIONAL SCHEMES—temporary boosters at best—but that there must be a turning to a reliance upon the pure word of God.”  
     As Anthony Morris compares the governing body with the early apostles distributing spiritual food, notice what he says in his Morning Worship comments on obedience:
    “ As they (the apostles) traveled on through the cities they would deliver to them, all the congregations, for observance, the decrees that had been decided upon by the apostles and the elders who were in Jerusalem.  So these decrees went out and because of their devoting themselves to the MINISTRY OF THE WORD and prayer, did Jehovah bless them?” 
    Yes, God blessed the apostles, because they spoke the word of God which was written on their heart and mind!  Heb 8:10 They supported and taught Christ’s truth from the Father.  Ps 12:9; Prov 7:2; John 7:16-18    Can the apostles who filled their minds and hearts with the pure teachings of Christ, and followed closely God’s laws, be compared to the makers of a side show, and who nurture their organizational idol?  Have the anointed who have entangled themselves in confusion, disregarded God’s laws inscribed on their heart for the ideas of men?   Jer 17:1-6; Rev 13: 1,2,5-8,11,14-17    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Heb+8%3A10%3B+Ps+12%3A9%3B+Prov+7%3A2%3B+John+7%3A16-18%3BJer+17%3A1-6%3B+Rev+13%3A+1%2C2%2C5-8%2C11%2C14-17&version=CSB
    Morris declares:
    “The decisions that are made by the “faithful slave” today are made collectively.  No one man is making these decisions; these decisions if you want to call them a DECREE, are made collectively.  So, when that DIRECTION comes out to Branch committee members, or when it comes out to the congregations; IF YOU WANT JEHOVAH’S BLESSING  ON YOU as an individual or family, certainly as an elder or congregation, it’d be best to just ask Jehovah to help you understand it, BUT OBEY THE DECISION.”
    Decrees from men, that are spoken outside of God’s Word fulfilled in Christ, are decrees from a false prophet who directs the Wild Beast to enforce them. Isa 29:13; Matt 15:9; 2 Cor 11:3,4; Col 2:20-22; 2 Pet 2:1; Eph 4:14; 1 Tim 6:3-5; Rev 2:14,15; Rev 13:14,15   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isa+29%3A13%3B+Matt+15%3A9%3B+2+Cor+11%3A3%2C4%3B+Col+2%3A20-22%3B+2+Pet+2%3A1%3B+Eph+4%3A14%3B+1+Tim+6%3A3-5%3B+Rev+2%3A14%2C15%3B+Rev+13%3A14%2C15&version=CSB
     Back to the Wt 1953 – “Because the land called CHRISTENDOM has COMMERCIALIZED God’s Word, Jehovah will pour out his wrath upon it: ‘I begin to bring evil ON THE CITY WHICH IS CALLED BY MY NAME, . . . And the slain of the LORD [Jehovah] shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth.’” (Jer. 25:29, 33)”   
    Now, this claim is so far-fetched, that the WT doesn’t have the courage to address it elsewhere on their internet site in reference to Christendom, that I have found. The organization has gathered within it, spiritual “Israel”, (meaning “God prevails”), the anointed ones. They are His “House”, His dwelling – “New Jerusalem”. Ps 122:1-5; Jer 7:14; Micah 6:2;1 Cor 3:16,17; 2 Cor 6:16; Eph 2:20-22; Rev 21:1-5    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ps+122%3A1-5%3B+Jer+7%3A14%3B+Micah+6%3A2%3B1+Cor+3%3A16%2C17%3B+2+Cor+6%3A16%3B+Eph+2%3A20-22%3B+Rev+21%3A1-5+&version=CSB
    Under covenant with Him, would they not carry His name? Jer 31:33; Heb 8:10; Isa 43:6,7; 1 Pet 2:5,9,10  If faithful, they will eternally carry the name of God.  Rev 2:13; 14:1 This is one of the more blatant, easy to catch lies if one cares to perceive it.  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jer+31%3A33%3B+Heb+8%3A10%3B+Isa+43%3A6%2C7%3B+1+Pet+2%3A5%2C9%2C10%3B+Rev+2%3A13%3B+14%3A1+++&version=CSB
    “For I am already bringing disaster on the city that bears My name, so how could you possibly go unpunished? You will not go unpunished, for I am summoning a sword against all the inhabitants of the earth. This is the declaration of the Lord of Armies.’
    “As for you, you are to prophesy all these things to them, and say to them:
    The Lord roars from on high;
    he makes  His voice heard from His holy dwelling.
    He roars loudly over His grazing land;
    He calls out with a shout, like those who tread grapes,
    against all the inhabitants of the earth. Jer 25:29,30
    Surely you can link the pieces together.  “Israel”, and those with them, receive a “shout” to leave the now “apostate city” for the sins they have committed, which has resulted in spiritual famine.  Rev 18:4-8 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rev+18%3A4-8&version=CSB
    As stated by the article, catchy ploys are used to draw people into “Jehovah’s organization”,  just as Christendom is known to do.  While the organization is busy leading you to believe the end time preaching work is to Christendom, in reality it is to “the city that is called by My name” – the anointed spiritual “Israel”.   Matt 10:23; 24:14; Rev 11:3  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+10%3A23%3B+24%3A14%3B+Rev+11%3A3&version=CSB 
    FALSELY, the article continues to target Christendom and upbuild the “crafty promoters” of the WT:
    “There is in the midst of famine-stricken Christendom an organization of Christians bringing to famished people the truth from God’s Word. It is the organization of Jehovah’s witnesses, the only group bringing the people the good news of Jehovah’s new world so near at hand. The message they bring needs NO CRAFTY PROMOTION, NO HELP FROM DEVILS, NO ENTICEMENTS. For Jehovah’s witnesses “are not those who COMMERCIALIZE or make gain [adulterators] of the word of God as many men are.” (2 Cor. 2:17, footnote, NW)”
    Please read their sited scripture:  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Cor+2%3A17&version=CSB
    Be true to yourself, JWs.  Empty pews, commercialism, buffoonery, reduction of spiritual “fodder”, all add up to the existence of FAMINE in the “city which is called by My name”.     Can you really draw confidence in the organization to spiritually feed you abundantly?  1 Tim 4:1,2  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Tim+4%3A1%2C2&version=CSB
    Historic Israel and its fall into idolatry can be symbolized by today’s spiritual “Israel” worshiping the “image” of the Wild Beast/Watchtower organization. (Rev 13:14-17 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rev+13%3A14-17&version=CSB
    Isa chapter 48 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isa+48&version=CSB
    Or, perhaps you may want to listen here:  https://www.biblegateway.com/audio/suchet/nivuk/Isa.48
     
     



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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Governing body (self) praise and (self) deceiving on global level   
    No, it’s not the purpose of those meetings, but why allow an obvious lie to be propagated?  An up-building congregational setting in the apostle’s time was centered on Christ’s teachings, not the teachings of men.  Where in the Bible does it say we must obey doctrines outside of Christ’s teachings?  2 Pet 2:2   We are to reject those ideas we see as blatantly wrong; and if they continue to add up, there’s something askew with the big picture – the organization and its existence.  Gal 5:7; Rom 1:25; 2 Cor 11:3
    Yes, and I have agreed with you on some things; yet, if you did this in the congregation you would become a target, someone to watch.  Each person has a heart and a conscience that God expect us to exercise in righteousness.   We are not to kowtow to men and their ideals. Christ never did, the apostles never did.  They are our examples.    We are to follow Christ’s teachings as God expects us to.  We are to support God’s Son, not a GB who in their apparent pious way, are actually false “christs”.  Matt 24:24  
    If we allow ourselves to be manipulated by doctrine of men, we are essentially their slaves.  1 Cor 7:23; 1 Thess 2:4; Rom 6:16
    They have instilled the fear (you can’t see it) in JWs, that to obey God and Christ, it must be done through the organization.  There is no valid scriptural reason for this.    If it is challenged by someone in the organization, that one can be disfellowshipped.   Would God bless an organization that throws out HIs children who care to serve Him, with their whole heart, mind and soul, instead of for and through a material corporation?  Mark 12:29-31  Would God bless a "preaching work" that claims it leads people to salvation, when He only approved HIs Son as our salvation?  Acts 4:12  Wouldn't you say that by following these cited scriptures the person is following God's decrees?
    If one truly desires to serve the Father and Jesus, why would this be a confusing issue?  Where is confidence that Holy Spirit can draw out and inspire those whom He needs to get the work done?    Only men feel they need to control God's work and how it's accomplished.   He, on the other hand, is fully in control of His "preaching work" and to whom must hear the message.  Although it is claimed that God controls the organization,  it is as if God really has no power or control, in the eyes of all in the organization.  Zech 4:6; Matt 10:23  
    He chooses where his Spirit is directed.  Obviously, men who teach out of their own resources would not be blessed by God.  They give no  scriptural support to the claim that God and Christ are in control of the organization.  Their validity is all based on elemental calculations, and what the eye can see.  
    "Jesus answered them and said, “My doctrine is not Mine, but His who sent Me.  If anyone wills to do His will, he shall know concerning the doctrine, whether it is from God or whether I speak on My own authority.  He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory; but He who seeks the glory of the One who sent Him is true, and no unrighteousness is in Him."   John 7:16-18
    Should it be any different today among anointed "teachers" who purport to follow Christ?
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in Governing body (self) praise and (self) deceiving on global level   
    I understand, especially since the GB has tainted everything about Christ’s Truth.
    1 John 4:1 -  "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see if they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world."
    The anointed are compared to trees and their “fruit”, or teachings -
     “Be on your guard against false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravaging wolves. 16 You’ll recognize them by their fruit. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes or figs from thistles?17 In the same way, every good tree produces good fruit, but a bad tree produces bad fruit. 18 A good tree can’t produce bad fruit; neither can a bad tree produce good fruit. 19 Every tree that doesn’t produce good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 So you’ll recognize them by their fruit.  Matt 7:15-20
    It takes effort on our part, to find the good trees.  With God’s Holy Spirit, we will be able to discern “good fruit” from the “bad fruit”.  You are already on your way to doing just that.
    Pearl Doxsey has a “Personal File”.  At the bottom of that page, she describes her anointing experience. 
    pearl -  personalfile . blogspot . com
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Governing body (self) praise and (self) deceiving on global level   
    Every word of Christ was insightful, and valuable, warning us of the end and its circumstances.  The “wicked slave” is apparent in Revelation 13:11 who directs a “Beast” that conquers the anointed. Rev 13:1, 7 The “wicked steward/slave” “beats” his fellow servants. Matt 24:48-51   The anointed Temple (1 Cor 3:16,17)  is ruled over by the wicked slave's elder body/Beast.  Rev 11:1,2; 2 Thess 2:3,4 
    Hopefully, the correlation comes clear that it all depicts the same scenario.  An entity lead by a false prophet coerces the remnant to fall for a delusion.  2 Thess 2:9-12   Jesus’ words were not “just a parable” but a warning of what was to come upon the anointed remnant during the last days.   False prophets were readily spoken of throughout the Greek scriptures.  Captivity to “empty philosophy” fits right alongside with the teachings of false prophets.  Col 2:8
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from FelixCA in Governing body (self) praise and (self) deceiving on global level   
    Have Watchtower’s “virgins” walked in the path of Christ?  Have they been persecuted by their own leaders just as Christ was?  Have they stood up to faltering teachings and discarded “truth”, labeling it as a lie, just as Jesus boldly told the Pharisees that they were of their father the devil?  John 8:44
    Have they been “thrown out of the synagogues” – congregations – on account of upholding Christ?  Have they been judged as spiritually “dead”?
    “I have told you this, so that you will not give up your faith. 2 You will be expelled from the synagogues, and the time will come when those who kill you will think that by doing this they are serving God. 3 People will do these things to you because they have not known either the Father or me. 4 But I have told you this, so that when the time comes for them to do these things, you will remember what I told you.  John 16:2,3
    Have they shared the same “disgrace” as Christ did, among his own people?
    Let us, then, go to him outside the camp and share his shame. 14 For there is no permanent city for us here on earth; we are looking for the city which is to come. Heb 13:13,14
    Have they rejected the organization and its material strongholds -  a “city” -   that claims it will survive Armageddon? 
    As a result of being an outcast, have they experienced this:
    A father will be against his son and a son against his father. A mother will be against her daughter and a daughter against her mother. A mother-in-law will be against her daughter-in-law and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.”  Luke 12:53
    “People will hand over their own brothers to be put to (symbolic) death, and fathers will do the same to their children; children will turn against their parents and have them put to death.”  Matt 10:21
    Jesus was speaking to his own people.  How will this be fulfilled among those in the WT?  It is a sign of the end times.  But, Watchtower’s “virgins” appeared to have escaped all of this – already found “blameless”, even though discarded doctrines once preached as truth, are indeed, lies.  It is also certain that if one were to do research, there would be a conflicting teaching about  WT's virgins and their present state,  just as with all topics found on the org’s website. 
    “Death”/disfellowshipping  is a result of the rejection of a Wicked Slave and its drunken henchmen – who are the beating heart of the organization.  Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:1,7,8,11,12,14-17
    On the other hand, are these “foolish virgins” allowing themselves to be “trampled’  and muted, by this dual counterfeit power portrayed to be blessed by God?
    Wise virgins of “New Jerusalem” have repented for listening to men and their doctrine, that requires revering its idol/organization.  They have accepted instead the leadership of the Father and Christ.  Although they suffer the unrighteous label of disgrace, they gladly leave such oppressive wickedness and drunkenness sourced in the “Harlot”/false prophet’s “wine”/teachings.  Rev 17:1,2; 19:2
    You suffering people of Jerusalem,
        you that stagger as though you were drunk,
    22 the Lord your God defends you and says,
    “I am taking away the cup
        that I gave you in my anger.
    You will no longer have to drink
        the wine that makes you stagger.
    23 I will give it to those who oppressed you,
        to those who made you lie down in the streets
        and trampled on you as if you were dirt.”  Isa 51:23
    Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3,7
     
    Dear JWs, I so wish you would wake up. 
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from FelixCA in Governing body (self) praise and (self) deceiving on global level   
    Pearl Doxsey, an anointed one,  has an article entitled, “Where is the Truth?” on her page.  It is found on the upper right under “Basic Articles”. 
     
    She has also made a soundcloud recording concerning why the anointed have been “scattered” in the organization and how the authentic “Mount Zion”/Temple rises and appears in the last days.  Isa 2:2,3  (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)
    She explains how the anointed Body of Christ ‘works’ under the proper circumstances when they accept only Christ as their Head, and not men.
    Both the soundcloud and the article cover numerous scriptures to explain this.  In fact, if you do decide to listen to the recording, you may want to divide it up into a few parts.  She reads the scriptures for you.
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Governing body (self) praise and (self) deceiving on global level   
    Have Watchtower’s “virgins” walked in the path of Christ?  Have they been persecuted by their own leaders just as Christ was?  Have they stood up to faltering teachings and discarded “truth”, labeling it as a lie, just as Jesus boldly told the Pharisees that they were of their father the devil?  John 8:44
    Have they been “thrown out of the synagogues” – congregations – on account of upholding Christ?  Have they been judged as spiritually “dead”?
    “I have told you this, so that you will not give up your faith. 2 You will be expelled from the synagogues, and the time will come when those who kill you will think that by doing this they are serving God. 3 People will do these things to you because they have not known either the Father or me. 4 But I have told you this, so that when the time comes for them to do these things, you will remember what I told you.  John 16:2,3
    Have they shared the same “disgrace” as Christ did, among his own people?
    Let us, then, go to him outside the camp and share his shame. 14 For there is no permanent city for us here on earth; we are looking for the city which is to come. Heb 13:13,14
    Have they rejected the organization and its material strongholds -  a “city” -   that claims it will survive Armageddon? 
    As a result of being an outcast, have they experienced this:
    A father will be against his son and a son against his father. A mother will be against her daughter and a daughter against her mother. A mother-in-law will be against her daughter-in-law and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.”  Luke 12:53
    “People will hand over their own brothers to be put to (symbolic) death, and fathers will do the same to their children; children will turn against their parents and have them put to death.”  Matt 10:21
    Jesus was speaking to his own people.  How will this be fulfilled among those in the WT?  It is a sign of the end times.  But, Watchtower’s “virgins” appeared to have escaped all of this – already found “blameless”, even though discarded doctrines once preached as truth, are indeed, lies.  It is also certain that if one were to do research, there would be a conflicting teaching about  WT's virgins and their present state,  just as with all topics found on the org’s website. 
    “Death”/disfellowshipping  is a result of the rejection of a Wicked Slave and its drunken henchmen – who are the beating heart of the organization.  Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:1,7,8,11,12,14-17
    On the other hand, are these “foolish virgins” allowing themselves to be “trampled’  and muted, by this dual counterfeit power portrayed to be blessed by God?
    Wise virgins of “New Jerusalem” have repented for listening to men and their doctrine, that requires revering its idol/organization.  They have accepted instead the leadership of the Father and Christ.  Although they suffer the unrighteous label of disgrace, they gladly leave such oppressive wickedness and drunkenness sourced in the “Harlot”/false prophet’s “wine”/teachings.  Rev 17:1,2; 19:2
    You suffering people of Jerusalem,
        you that stagger as though you were drunk,
    22 the Lord your God defends you and says,
    “I am taking away the cup
        that I gave you in my anger.
    You will no longer have to drink
        the wine that makes you stagger.
    23 I will give it to those who oppressed you,
        to those who made you lie down in the streets
        and trampled on you as if you were dirt.”  Isa 51:23
    Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3,7
     
    Dear JWs, I so wish you would wake up. 
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Governing body (self) praise and (self) deceiving on global level   
    Pearl Doxsey, an anointed one,  has an article entitled, “Where is the Truth?” on her page.  It is found on the upper right under “Basic Articles”. 
     
    She has also made a soundcloud recording concerning why the anointed have been “scattered” in the organization and how the authentic “Mount Zion”/Temple rises and appears in the last days.  Isa 2:2,3  (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)
    She explains how the anointed Body of Christ ‘works’ under the proper circumstances when they accept only Christ as their Head, and not men.
    Both the soundcloud and the article cover numerous scriptures to explain this.  In fact, if you do decide to listen to the recording, you may want to divide it up into a few parts.  She reads the scriptures for you.
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Governing body (self) praise and (self) deceiving on global level   
    Greetings to you also, Srecko    I really don't know how one could determine who shares, since it seems many who are not members could share anonymously.  This sounds like a question for JW Insider!
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    Witness got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in Governing body (self) praise and (self) deceiving on global level   
    I noticed 46 "shares" of this comment, Srecko.  Seems to me that people are recognizing GB's hypocrisy enough to pass it on.
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Governing body (self) praise and (self) deceiving on global level   
    I noticed 46 "shares" of this comment, Srecko.  Seems to me that people are recognizing GB's hypocrisy enough to pass it on.
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in Governing body (self) praise and (self) deceiving on global level   
    GB famous phrases are: "we are not inspired but we are guided, motivated"... and... with self invented/claims: "JHVH trusts us, Jesus trust us".....they ask YOU to trust THEM.  And JW members, in general,  not see trap and snare by what GB try to enslave human minds.
     
    2. (a) Who is “the faithful and discreet slave,” or “the faithful steward”? (b) How has the slave established a fine record of “following the Lamb”?
    2 What can be said about the anointed Christians in modern times? In his prophecy about “the sign of [his] presence and of the conclusion of the system of things,” Jesus referred to the composite body of his spirit-anointed followers on earth as “the faithful and discreet slave,” or “the faithful steward.” (Matt. 24:3, 45; Luke 12:42) As a group, the slave class has established an excellent record of “following the Lamb no matter where he goes.” (Read Revelation 14:4, 5.) Its members remain virgins in a spiritual sense by not defiling themselves with the beliefs and practices of “Babylon the Great,” the world empire of false religion. (Rev. 17:5) No doctrinal falsehood is “found in their mouths,” and they remain “without blemish” from Satan’s world. (John 15:19) In the future, the remaining anointed ones on earth “will follow” the Lamb right into heaven.—John 13:36.
    3. Why is it important for us to trust the slave class?
    3 Jesus has appointed the faithful and discreet slave “over his domestics,” that is, the individual members of the slave class, “to give them their food at the proper time.” He has also appointed the slave “over all his belongings.” (Matt. 24:45-47) These “belongings” include the growing “great crowd” of “other sheep.” (Rev. 7:9; John 10:16) Should not individual members of the anointed and the “other sheep” trust the slave appointed over them? There are many reasons why the slave class deserves our trust. Two outstanding reasons are: (1) Jehovah trusts the slave class. (2) Jesus also trusts the slave. Let us examine the evidence that both Jehovah God and Jesus Christ have complete confidence in the faithful and discreet slave.
    5. What shows that God’s spirit is empowering the slave class?
    5 Jehovah also blesses the slave class with his holy spirit. While Jehovah’s spirit is invisible, what it produces in those upon whom it operates is not. Think of what the faithful and discreet slave has been able to accomplish in giving a worldwide witness about Jehovah God, his Son, and the Kingdom. Jehovah’s worshippers are actively proclaiming the Kingdom message in over 230 lands and island groups. Does that not give undeniable evidence that God’s spirit is empowering the slave? (Read Acts 1:8.) In providing timely spiritual food for Jehovah’s people the world over, the slave class must make vital decisions. In making them and putting them into effect, the slave exhibits love, mildness, and other aspects of the spirit’s fruitage.—Gal. 5:22, 23.
    source; https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2009123#h=7
    Now we have some work (read Critical Thinking, not criticism :))) ) to do about claims in paragraphs. 
    First, if you, as JW and student, regularly reading this sort of spiritual foods, you already noticed that many important doctrinal changes are occurred since 2009 and this Study Material in your congregation.  
    For example:
    1) "Jesus referred to the composite body of his spirit-anointed followers on earth as “the faithful and discreet slave,” or “the faithful steward.” NOT "TRUTH" ANY MORE
    2) "He has also appointed the slave “over all his belongings.” NOT "TRUTH" ANY MORE
    When Author of WT article described FDS by said: "No doctrinal falsehood is “found in their mouths,” then he made false statement despite, must to have knowledge, about previous changes on doctrines and interpretations. But most of all, it is of crucial importance to readers of such articles to recognize and see what falsehood and manipulation coming from magazine's Writing Department (The original text is prepared in English. The Governing Body oversees the activity of the Writing Department at our world headquarters. This department coordinates the assignments of the writers who serve at headquarters and at certain branch offices. Having a diversified writing staff allows us to address multicultural subjects that give our publications an international appeal. (source: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102012164 ) 
    How can be said, without any shame, that there is no "doctrinal falsehood" in FDS aka GB mouths, when they changes teachings on a regular basis?  
     
    3) "Jehovah also blesses the slave class with his holy spirit". QUESTIONABLE IDEA
    4) "While Jehovah’s spirit is invisible, what it produces in those upon whom it operates is not." QUESTIONABLE IDEA
    5) "Does that not give undeniable evidence that God’s spirit is empowering the slave?" QUESTIONABLE IDEA
    What makes points 3,4, and 5 as questionable idea? Few times GB and some of those before them, FDS composite, made clear statement how they are NOT INSPIRED (not always negate this possibility, but recently they did it in clear and sound words). About what they are not inspired? They explained:
    1. GB are not inspired
    2. WT publications are not inspired.
    So, .... in one moment they CLAIM how they have Blesses, Produces, Empowering with -God's Spirit- in sharing spiritual food, doctrines, teachings, instructions, global work, but ...  in another moment they DENIED how they are Inspired by this same -God's Spirit-? 
     
    6)  Two outstanding reasons are: (1) Jehovah trusts the slave class. (2) Jesus also trusts the slave.
    Really  ? :)))) Self-praise and self-deceiving.... with clear intention to deceive you. THINK about! Who have REASON  (reasoning and sound mind) TO PUBLICLY CLAIM  how JHVH and Jesus TRUST ME/US/THEM ??!! 
    DO You ever say in comment on meetings, from platform in public talk, in preaching service to people THAT God and Jesus TRUST YOU/ME, so you have to trust all words I told you. 
    Well please, who speaking "falsehood" to whom?    :))))
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in DOES THE JW BROADCASTING CHILDREN'S VIDEO "MAKE JEHOVAH HAPPY"?   
    There is a children’s video put out by JW Broadcasting entitled, “Make Jehovah Happy”. After watching it a few times the scene of Jesus tempted by Satan in the wilderness became progressively more disturbing to me. I thought I’d tell you why.
    Satan begins by saying, “If you are A son of God, tell these stones to become loaves of bread.” Matt 4:3 NWT The majority of other translations say, “THE Son of God”.  Satan obviously knew Jesus was THE Son of God.  Is Satan using the Watchtower as his avenue, makes subtle taunting hints disclosing his hatred for Jesus?  There is another facet to the NWT’s phrase, “if you are A son of God”, which could refer to the anointed sons of God, and their time of testing “in the wilderness” by Satan. These “living stones” of God’s Temple can only become living “bread”, one loaf with Christ, by relying on every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. John 6:35,33,51; John 8:51; 1 Cor 10:14-17; John 15:4,5,15     https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+6%3A35%2C33%2C51%3B+John+8%3A51%3B+1+Cor+10%3A14-17%3B+John+15%3A4%2C5%2C15&version=CSB
    Pearl Doxsey:
     “God allows all those called to be His sons, to be tried by the devil (Luke22:31,46; Eph.6:12-13; 1Pet.5:8-9; 2Cor.11:3,13-14,4,20;Rev.2:20,10; Col.2:8; Eph.5:6; Matt.24:4; James1:13-14; Job 1:6,8-12,22; 27:6; 13:18; 31:6; James5:10-11) (Rev.13:10;Luke21:24; Matt.5:13; Rev.11:2).  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke22%3A31%2C46%3B+Eph.6%3A12-13%3B+1Pet.5%3A8-9%3B+2Cor.11%3A3%2C13-14%2C4%2C20%3BRev.2%3A20%2C10%3B+Col.2%3A8%3B+Eph.5%3A6%3B+Matt.24%3A4%3B+James1%3A13-14%3B+Job+1%3A6%2C8-12%2C22%3B+27%3A6%3B+13%3A18%3B+31%3A6%3B+James5%3A10-11)+(Rev.13%3A10%3BLuke21%3A24%3B+Matt.5%3A13%3B+Rev.11%3A2&version=CSB&fbclid=IwAR3rEgWRrdgSgz8qRdQdOSdzju-sxIotfh6i_nh4e52LBsrwxUeixSZdHeo
    It is our opportunity to rise and meet the occasion, and to PROVE whose sons we truly are.
    If we belong to Christ, we will, like him, endure in faithfulness, by obeying God throughout our trials. In doing so, we are spiritually branded and sealed, as servants of God "(Deut.11:18; Rev.14:4-5; 22:4,3; Heb.8:10; Deut.11:18; 1Pet.2:10,9).” https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deut.11%3A18%3B+Rev.14%3A4-5%3B+22%3A4%2C3%3B+Heb.8%3A10%3B+Deut.11%3A18%3B+1Pet.2%3A10%2C9&version=CSB&fbclid=IwAR3ZUlk5YdrEX86KrbIH8ioRgB8Yb4kmteiMEG2DwJ420L5hArK2LQwWfrs
    In the video, Jesus answers, “it is written, man must not live on bread alone.“ But, the scripture in full reads, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, BUT BY EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD. ”
    Is this possible in the Watchtower? No. JWs cannot truly say they survive on every word that comes from God’s mouth, since their “bread” are the “words” from uninspired governing body members, and made with the same recipe the Pharisees used – the leaven of deceit. Matt 16:6-12; Mark 13:22  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+16%3A6-12%3B+Mark+13%3A22&version=CSB&fbclid=IwAR0PyToU9Au5Cgfthw5cfiZhgPthmRAlnBj8IC8TXT0TfTMpXBzLIVLHakQ
    A troubling part follows, when Satan has taken Jesus to a pinnacle of the temple. Satan says, “if you are a son of God, throw yourself down”. The video shows Jesus falling backward off the temple wall while Satan’s voice is heard, “for the angels will carry you on their hands, so that you may not strike your foot against a stone.’” Two angels return Jesus to the top of the temple. Behind Jesus’ back and in a sinister voice, Satan says, “PROVE IT TO THEM”. I showed this part to my husband, and he immediately said, “but Jesus didn’t do that”. Why would the makers of this video for children, even remotely entertain the possibility of Jesus falling from the temple heights?  Well, who is it that desires to see Jesus conquered at the end of the days? Gen 3:15; Rev 12:7 Who has the ability to fabricate lies and call them “good”? This video could likely be considered by JWs as a blessing from God, but is it? Isa 5:20,21; 2 Pet 2:1-3   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Gen+3%3A15%3B+Rev+12%3A7%3B+Isa+5%3A20%2C21%3B+2+Pet+2%3A1-3&version=CSB&fbclid=IwAR1mrN2e3EoSHbLTG9wnQkMl59xfZ0gwG8kiaqWi9vlh8busE3zcgjFHw90
    Today, the “Temple of God” is the Body of Christ, his priesthood built with living stones. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17 Are the anointed sons of God being tempted by Satan to fall away from God’s Temple, the anointed Body of Christ? 2 Cor 6:14-18  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Pet+2%3A5%2C9%3B+1+Cor+3%3A16%2C17%3B+2+Cor+6%3A14-18&version=CSB&fbclid=IwAR1QbLFUkqCU7yvJGA-snerRXY3SQjGkBFi_pCUpogbaZzcG_BGMKremdpQ
    Watchtower 16/1 pp. 22-27 – “In addition, anointed Christians do not view themselves as being part of an elite club. THEY DO NOT SEEK OUT OTHERS WHO CLAIM TO HAVE THE SAME CALLING, HOPING TO BOND WITH THEM endeavoring to form private groups for Bible study.”
    Please JWs, do not listen to the lies of men and their demonic expressions, (Rev 16:13,14) but let God’s inspired Word teach you about the anointed ones. Paul tells us why it is imperative that the Temple/Body bonds with one another:
    "But as it is, GOD has arranged each one of the parts in the body JUST AS HE WANTED. 19 And if they were all the same part, where would the body be? 20 As it is, there are many parts, but one body. 21 The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” Or again, the head can’t say to the feet, “I don’t need you!” 22 On the contrary, those parts of the body that are weaker are indispensable. 23 And those parts of the body that we consider less honorable, we clothe these with greater honor, and our unrespectable parts are treated with greater respect, 24 which our respectable parts do not need.
    Instead, God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the less honorable, 25 so that there would be NO DIVISION IN THE BODY, but that the members would have the same concern for each other. 26 So if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it." 1 Cor 12:18-26  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rev+16%3A13%2C14&version=CSB&fbclid=IwAR2t2Szy7kCQINTwvyqQqzNS4ys3eVUkmjoqSv5Qaqd_5sAdJQEM6mke5NM
    This is only possible if the members of God’s Household recognize who its members are!  Eph 2:18-22 The Watchtower has ignored “God’s handiwork”, by successfully tearing it down before your eyes, while it builds its empire in literal stone. Eph 2:10; Isa 3:8,9  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Eph+2%3A18-22%3B+Eph+2%3A10%3B+Isa+3%3A8%2C9&version=CSB&fbclid=IwAR39TRzdD7e2Y84sAji6umYFuUSqmGmzyvrFeEeZwpkkiNHDUkzTcpf_a3k
    “…so that you may not strike your foot against a stone”. Satan is quoting from Ps 91 which emphasizes our true security and protection is “in the shadow of the Almighty”.   In Ps 91:12, the word “stone” is from the root meaning “to build”.  It seems obvious from the WT quote, that Jesus, the chief cornerstone of God’s House, has become a “stone of stumbling” for the anointed in the WT. Isa 28:16  Jesus is not accepted as the one and only Head of the Body. Instead, obedience must be given to the governing body and their elders BEFORE considering any obedience to Christ. Matt 24:48-51; Luke 22:24-27; Rev 13:14-17  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isa+28%3A16%3B+Matt+24%3A48-51%3B+Luke+22%3A24-27%3B+Rev+13%3A14-17&version=CSB&fbclid=IwAR2FRnpA_DLdMzCSbzHfmwrepiEAEDvTBu5m9qU844Rqch8BaSzTkcWuiV4
    In the video, Satan taunts, “prove it to them”. Are the anointed thoroughly convinced they have God’s protection by complying with the “decree” outlined in the WT quote above, choosing men’s lies over the truth in scripture?  Have they attempted to “prove it”; prove that all is well for them spiritually, by boldly proclaiming before God and the angels that “Jehovah’s organization” is their safety net?  In reality, these “living stones” have fallen from the Temple and from the truth of God’s laws in Christ.  They lie scattered and disconnected from their true Head, Jesus Christ. Heb 2:1; John 14:6; 1 Tim 4:1  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Heb+2%3A1%3B+John+14%3A6%3B+1+Tim+4%3A1&version=CSB&fbclid=IwAR152B4nHrFIOvW7BffISULpYpGp7lPPrwFVaziVTRVC7FczFzUjI77banw
    From Pearl Doxsey’s article, “Lukewarm”, “Hot” or “Cold”:
    At Rev.3:15,16 Jesus said to his anointed Congregation...
    "I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth."
    "Heat" symbolizes zeal for truth (Rom.12:11; Acts 18:25).   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rom.12%3A11%3B+Acts+18%3A25&version=CSB&fbclid=IwAR19hQNVNnXF5Fiqk7Tb3gMjv5rlLIzLsR3p7BYotyXW4lYC52A5oSIdlQI
    That zeal can exist, but be misguided (Rom.10:2; Acts 21:20; Rom.9:31; 10:3). https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rom.10%3A2%3B+Acts+21%3A20%3B+Rom.9%3A31%3B+10%3A3&version=CSB&fbclid=IwAR2TX861hMddo9JCIuR_z7869dR_IqZ6aKQPWZ1AEpAUUNg0DaPwZLV-lbU
    This can happen to the anointed, when they are looking at establishing their OWN righteousness; BY RITUALS, TRADITIONS, ARRANGEMENTS, AND COMMANDS OF MEN; rather than seeking the righteousness OF GOD, through submission and obedience to Him   (Matt.6:33; 7:21; Rom.2:29).  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt.6%3A33%3B+7%3A21%3B+Rom.2%3A29&version=CSB&fbclid=IwAR0pIXgSU2RFg7rbW2WUGl0etLJ6OqpViHpC4ryVFiQa_PDPh06pWysdhvU
    This mistake results in stumbling (Rom.9:32,33; Matt.11:6).  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rom.9%3A32%2C33%3B+Matt.11%3A6&version=CSB&fbclid=IwAR2eBs3iEtQiL2oofs90sePUEa8dd-5e2YEtZ0Ar0o94vFrjQxX0kFUHRPM
    That stone is Christ (Isa.28:16; 8:14; Matt.7:24; 21:42; Rom.9:33; Zech.3:9)   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isa.28%3A16%3B+8%3A14%3B+Matt.7%3A24%3B+21%3A42%3B+Rom.9%3A33%3B+Zech.3%3A9&version=CSB&fbclid=IwAR1URyl6Ocnk8itInTM3V_7pOpO6JYs_JjB211Fv2om0DqnnMvKByeKLdOA
    In the video, Jesus replied to Satan’s challenge by saying, “Again, it is written, you must not put Jehovah your God to the test.” Matt 4:7
    It is interesting that Jesus quoted a verse from Deut chapter 6. Notice the circumstances that prompted these words of Moses.
    "Do not follow other gods, the gods of the peoples around you, 15 for the Lord your God, who is among you, is a jealous God. Otherwise, the Lord your God will become angry with you and obliterate you from the face of the earth. 16 Do not test the Lord your God as you tested him at Massah. Deut 6:14-16
    “Jehovah’s organization” is another “god”, JWs, built as any other organization in the world, using all of its assets; although, this one is taught as “spirit-directed” where you can find refuge and shelter from the same world that it exists in. This is quite a paradox, isn’t it? 1 John 5:19; Rev 13:1,11,15  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=%3F+++1+John+5%3A19%3B+Rev+13%3A1%2C11%2C15&version=CSB&fbclid=IwAR37MXM0cPCRpmwZiS6keZ-myBRXOIWtSOitAY-bNHgYI9O--9dRWHvNrg4
    Kingdom Ministry, 5/84, pp. 3-6: “Many have escaped from satanic influence and have sought REFUGE IN Jehovah’s theocratic ORGANIZATION.”
    This is nothing more than a psychological trap, which anointed and all, have fallen for. Jer 5:26; Rev 13:4  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jer+5%3A26%3B+Rev+13%3A4&version=CSB&fbclid=IwAR3xRisIkIRTgpUz9Qzmbybo_3GgV-msVeVHlTRlFritDjv2HJVxO_4YH1c
     
    Next, the video sweeps past several rock buildings and centers on what appears to be a temple of Asian influence and design. Jesus finds himself quickly inside an expansive room of sculptured pillars and long red curtains hanging from above; the color similar to what I have seen draped behind governing body members during broadcasts of annual meetings. Or I liken it the rich hues and decorated pillars that embellish the inside of the organization's Stanley Theater, a desirable place for conventions.
    A running red carpet leads to a red throne where Satan reclines. He is seen gulping down the last wine from a golden goblet which is then tossed empty, across the room.
    “Woe to those who rise early in the morning,
    That they may follow intoxicating drink;
    Who continue until night, till wine inflames them!
    12 The harp and the strings,
    The tambourine and flute,
    And wine are in their feasts;
    BUT THEY DO NOT REGARD THE WORK OF THE LORD,
    NOR CONSIDER THE OPERATION OF HIS HANDS.
    13 Therefore MY PEOPLE HAVE GONE INTO CAPTIVITY,
    Because THEY HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE;
    Their honorable men are FAMISHED,
    And their multitude dried up with thirst.
    14 Therefore Sheol has enlarged itself
    And opened its mouth beyond measure;
    Their glory and their multitude and their pomp,
    And he who is jubilant, shall descend into it. Isa 5:11-14
    Satan offers Jesus a large roomful of golden utensils and statues; one being a haughty, stout looking individual with outstretched arms, standing on a pedestal. There is just something familiar about him. Isa 5:15,21 Satan reveals images of buildings in his opened palm which he offers to Jesus.  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isa+5%3A15%2C21&version=NKJV&fbclid=IwAR15vzs8LSIlA08V99DHZohOAiDR0eLow5lXIecTmmz7UmYyZ9JI1bkYRmY
    He exclaims, 
    “See all this glory! It is MINE and I give it to whomever I wish. And all these things, I will give to you, if you fall down and do an act of worship to me.”
    In an article about the Stanley Theater's renovation, a JW said,
    “We automatically assign a SACREDNESS TO THE BUILDING BECAUSE OF OUR WORSHIP,” said Warren, of Witness Assembly Halls. “Having this space adds to the grandeur of why we are here.”
    Without a doubt, this statement exudes pure idolatry.
    “Come, descendants of Jacob,
    let us walk in the light of the Lord.
    6 You, Lord, have abandoned your people,
    the descendants of Jacob.
    They are full of superstitions from the EAST;
    they practice divination like the Philistines
    and embrace PAGAN CUSTOMS.
    7 Their land is full of SILVER AND GOLD;
    THERE IS NO END TO THEIR TREASURES.
    Their land is full of horses;
    there is no end to their chariots.
    8 THEIR LAND IS FULL OF IDOLS;
    THEY BOW DOWN TO THE WORK OF THEIR HANDS,
    TO WHAT THEIR FINGERS HAVE MADE.” 
    9 So people will be brought low
    and everyone humbled—
    do not forgive them. Isa 2:5-9
    Please, stop and think, JWs. What is the organization built on? Money from heaven? Would Jesus eventually influence Satan to give up his gold to finance false worship centered around “temples” at the end of the days? Does he recognize any “temple” other than his Body, a living Temple in the anointed ones? Do you really believe Jesus would coerce JWs to finance this folly when he rejected what Satan offered him while on earth? Matt 19:21; 6:20   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+19%3A21%3B+6%3A20+&version=CSB&fbclid=IwAR1x0-j8eRajsbdX7VifbIROQceVCp1_PkREW8mFS799_1GeeePCVpbkdNw
    Are you getting the idea? Behind Watchtower’s pious demeanor is the unquenchable desire for riches and power motivating the organization’s leaders to ask YOU to foster their idolatrous claims.
    In a news article about the Stanley Theater, a JW stated,
    “We are largely self-financed,” said Robert Warren, media consultant for the World Headquarters of Jehovah’s Witnesses, NOTING THAT THE PROJECT WAS FUNDED BY INDIVIDUAL DONATIONS FROM WITNESSES ACROSS THE WORLD. “Whoever wants to build a tower must first count the cost,” he cited biblically, attributing the successful funding to strategic planning. “Rather than start and escalate, we evaluate first.”
    This is a tell-all statement.
    The cited scripture is from Luke 14:
    “Now as Jesus proceeded on his journey, great crowds accompanied him, and he turned and spoke to them,
    “If anyone comes to me without ‘hating’ his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, and even his own life, he cannot be a disciple of mine. The man who will not take up his cross (“figuratively, exposure to death, i.e. self-denial”) and follow in my footsteps cannot be my disciple.
    28-30 “If any of you wanted to build a tower, wouldn’t he first sit down and work out the cost of it, to see if he can afford to finish it? Otherwise, when he has laid the foundation and found himself unable to complete the building, everyone who sees it will begin to jeer at him, saying, ‘This is the man who started to build a tower but couldn’t finish it!’
    In the foregoing scriptures Jesus is not talking about building and repairing physical assets, but he is speaking of the cost and consequences of FOLLOWING HIM! Are the leaders of the WT., who delegate their pagan building endeavors, true disciples of Christ?  No.   1 John 2:19; Jude 1:12,13; Matt 7:18,20; Rev 8:10,11  They are attached to their ever-increasing pagan idols, and desire your money, JWs, to keep financing their “towers”. Jer 22:13-17; Isa 5:8,9   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+2%3A19%3B+Jude+1%3A12%2C13%3B+Matt+7%3A18%2C20%3B+Rev+8%3A10%2C11%3B+Jer+22%3A13-17%3B+Isa+5%3A8%2C9+&version=NKJV&fbclid=IwAR398AYdmn5J2QBEOBlPDpt5Sz8K_Nw26nqqq_Uu5O6f-_3q3i2oGKWW8k4
    Can you discern that the CORNERSTONE of God’s true Temple has not only been rejected by your leaders, but is a source of stumbling for the anointed, and for you, JWs?  Jesus and his living stones have been replaced with an idol. 1 Pet 2:6-8   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Pet+2%3A6-8&version=NKJV&fbclid=IwAR36hv2NfavH1z78oseqrGZXQ17bAiP1LhIncLvtYTs6Pdb9Vc0WYerslrg
    Jesus answered Satan; “It is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and SERVE HIM ONLY.”
    Under the spiritual influence of the Mastermind of deception, a false prophet/ spiritual Harlot and her Beast/organization has captivated and seduced the anointed and companions; making jest at the same time of Jesus’ testing in the wilderness, through the children’s video.    All financial support and “worship” given to this organization upholds one goal; to keep all within, blind and drunk on the “Harlot’s wine”, and far from the daylight of Christ. 1 Thess 5:4-7; 2 Thess 2:9-12; Rev 12:3,4; 13:1,6,7  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Thess+5%3A4-7%3B+2+Thess+2%3A9-12%3B+Rev+12%3A3%2C4%3B+13%3A1%2C6%2C7&version=CSB&fbclid=IwAR3tFyJ5X2MZD3XbYNoSTrkZVRaBxHVcyjO_vxG6TpYrt1IlLo3u6rIGdWQ
    Please, walk away from it. Stand for Truth found in Christ’s Words. Mark 8:35  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+8%3A35&version=CSB&fbclid=IwAR349ta6vb98HJHTZ8QbausJnfs8KuwO5C9imM8_yYRze-qmCwcYZVO92Bs
    Hear the word of the Lord, people of Israel,
    for the Lord has a case
    against the inhabitants of the land:
    There is no truth, no faithful love,
    and no knowledge of God in the land!
    4 But let no one dispute; let no one argue,
    for my case is against you priests. 
    5 You will stumble by day;
    the prophet will also stumble with you by night.
    And I will destroy your mother (“Israel”).
    6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.
    Because you have rejected knowledge,
    I will reject you from serving as my priest.
    Since you have forgotten the law of your God,
    I will also forget your sons.
    7 The more they multiplied,
    the more they sinned against me.
    I will change their honor into disgrace.
    8 They feed on the sin of my people;
    they have an appetite for their iniquity.
    9 The same judgment will happen
    to both people and priests. I will punish them for their ways
    and repay them for their deeds.
    10 They will eat but not be satisfied;
    they will be promiscuous but not multiply.
    For they have abandoned their devotion to the Lord.
    11 Promiscuity, wine, and new wine
    take away one’s understanding.
    12 My people consult their wooden idols,
    and their divining rods inform them.
    For a spirit of promiscuity leads them astray;
    they act promiscuously
    in disobedience to their God. Hos 4:1,4-6,7-12
     Pearl Doxsey, 4womaninthewilderness
    "Baptism Series - Lesson Two Section 1/The Wilderness"
    "Why Did Jesus Get Baptized"?
    "Forty Days and Forty Nights"
     
     
     



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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Jehovah's Witness Holocaust-era Survivors Fund, Inc.   
    They work the system,underhandedly, for every penny the can get.
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in Jehovah's Witness Holocaust-era Survivors Fund, Inc.   
    The Holocaust Victim Assets Litigation (Swiss Banks) CV-96-4849 is a fund to compensate people suffering from the Holocaust. As stated at swissbankclaims.com/index.asp (3 Mar 2006);
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    Witness reacted to JOHN BUTLER in Study Article Watchtower 11/11/2018   
    You are still being a parrot of the GB. You seem to know of nothing else.  As for me I'm not bitter and i do have very positive thoughts. Your problem seems to be that you have to insult me because I do not agree with your way of thinking. But remember that Jesus did not agree with the Pharisees' thoughts and deeds either. If you opened your eyes and your heart it would be easy for you to see how wicked the Governing Body of JW Org are. But you prefer to stay blind and just have your ears tickled by the GB's puppets, the Elders. 
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in SIX SCREENS OF THE WATCHTOWER   
    Benefactor - someone who giving money to WTS. Clear and sound :))))
    cca 8 mil JW is/are benefactors + unknown number of other benefactors
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in SIX SCREENS OF THE WATCHTOWER   
    Space Merchant:

    Don't 
    Need 
    To!
    These things are second nature to you, and to the Watchtower corporation that works the system to its advantage.  But, to the poor misguided sheep who have been fleeced spiritually and financially by wolves in sheep's clothing, it is, I repeat,  SHOCKING to find out anything relating to their political and financial dealings.  Matt 7:15; Mark 13:22  Are you going to educate millions of JWs who are still in the dark about it?  Will that make it all better? You have a lot of work to do.   They have been led to believe the organization is earthly Zion, an extension of the heavenly Zion.   What would Zion have to do with Satan's riches that run this world?  Matt 6:19-21  Yet, I have heard the governing body state that all the material goods of the organization are God's possessions, and they are precious to Him.  I ask a JW, where in scripture can this be proven?
    Write me your book, it doesn't make a difference in the general perception the Watchtower conveys to its members.  This is the major issue.  An organization, which protects itself with every worldly tool possible, claims to be God's possession.  This very idea blasphemes scripture. 
    "For as I was passing through and observing the objects of your worship, I even found an altar on which was inscribed: ‘To an Unknown God.’ Therefore, what you worship in ignorance, this I proclaim to you. 24 The God who made the world and everything in it—he is Lord of heaven and earth—does not live in shrines made by hands. 25 Neither is he served by human hands, as though he needed anything, since he himself gives everyone life and breath and all things. 26 From one man he has made every nationality to live over the whole earth and has determined their appointed times and the boundaries of where they live. 27 He did this so that they might seek God, and perhaps they might reach out and find him, though he is not far from each one of us. 28 For in him we live and move and have our being, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also his offspring.’ 29 Since we are God’s offspring then, we shouldn’t think that the divine nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image fashioned by human art and imagination.  Acts 17:23-29
    JWs are taught to seek out and join "Jehovah's organization"...and SERVE in every capacity imaginable.  Because, it is the pure, no part of the world, earthly Zion.  
    This is idolatry, as proven from Acts 17.  
    https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/topic/33326-717-wt-“seeking-riches-that-are-true”/?tab=comments#comment-44555
     
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in SIX SCREENS OF THE WATCHTOWER   
    $$$$ from Children's Sunday KH ice-creams as donation will "solve" the problem of "origin". Because children as honest and sincere, would be/will be, by giving money with their innocent hands, purify every single $. :)))
    Well, well ... You are now a little closer to my idea how all money is from devil, who is unclean. So if, "there is no such thing as clean $" (money) ,  but if all things that come from God are clean, then again, you unconsciously support my thesis. :))) 
    WT just pointing finger to themselves, by teaching others how to apply scriptures as this you mentioned ..... 
    Yes, it is, if you want to be "only true religion" and "clean nation for JHVH name".
    Agree, your moral standards is your choice. But WT teaching people how users of tobacco can't be members of JWorg and will not inherit the earth if not stop smoking. So, yes, it is moral contradiction.
    "Society...., and just like ALL religious orgs they are entitled to accept money from the worst"... Huh, but WT raises themselves above all organizations, religious or other kind. They have own picture about self as super "clean nation".....supported by unclean money???:))  
     
    Agreee!
     
    Again, you support my thesis how all dirty money came from God of this World :))))
     
    If i get correctly your thought.., If person or in this case organization is Superior in "other areas to everyone else", but not so "superior" in money issue then All is OK.??!! 
    How many "other areas" we shall/we are willing to going, looking for more acknowledge?
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Jehovah's Witnesses Tax Exemption May Have Cost City $368M, Critics Say   
    “My kingdom is not of this world,” said Jesus. “If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would fight, so that I wouldn’t be handed over to the Jews. But as it is, my kingdom is not from here.”  John 18:36
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Jehovah's Witnesses Tax Exemption May Have Cost City $368M, Critics Say   
    In one brief sentence, you have explained exactly what I've tried to get across.  
     
     
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