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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    I just read Zeph 3 this morning - 
    Zeph 3 - Woe to the city of oppressors,
        rebellious and defiled!
    2 She obeys no one,
        she accepts no correction.
    She does not trust in the Lord,
        she does not draw near to her God.
    3 Her officials within her
        are roaring lions;
    her rulers are evening wolves,
        who leave nothing for the morning.
    4 Her prophets are unprincipled;
        they are treacherous people.
    Her priests profane the sanctuary
        and do violence to the law. (Ezek 44:6-9..."representing the royal priesthood...")
     
    Matt 7: 15 “Be on your guard against false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravaging wolves.”

    Matt 24:24,25 – “For false messiahs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. 25 Take note: I have told you in advance.”
    2 Pet 3 -  15 “And regard the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as also our dear brother Paul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given to him, 16 speaking of these things in all his letters. Some things in these letters are hard to understand, things the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they also do to the rest of the scriptures. 17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard that you do not get led astray by the error of these unprincipled men and fall from your firm grasp on the truth.”
    Paul related, “I know that after I am gone fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Even from among your own group men will arise, teaching perversions of the truth to draw the disciples away after them.”
    …leading astray, “even the elect”.  Matt 24:24
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    I just read Zeph 3 this morning - 
    Zeph 3 - Woe to the city of oppressors,
        rebellious and defiled!
    2 She obeys no one,
        she accepts no correction.
    She does not trust in the Lord,
        she does not draw near to her God.
    3 Her officials within her
        are roaring lions;
    her rulers are evening wolves,
        who leave nothing for the morning.
    4 Her prophets are unprincipled;
        they are treacherous people.
    Her priests profane the sanctuary
        and do violence to the law. (Ezek 44:6-9..."representing the royal priesthood...")
     
    Matt 7: 15 “Be on your guard against false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravaging wolves.”

    Matt 24:24,25 – “For false messiahs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. 25 Take note: I have told you in advance.”
    2 Pet 3 -  15 “And regard the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as also our dear brother Paul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given to him, 16 speaking of these things in all his letters. Some things in these letters are hard to understand, things the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they also do to the rest of the scriptures. 17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard that you do not get led astray by the error of these unprincipled men and fall from your firm grasp on the truth.”
    Paul related, “I know that after I am gone fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Even from among your own group men will arise, teaching perversions of the truth to draw the disciples away after them.”
    …leading astray, “even the elect”.  Matt 24:24
     
     
     
     
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    So please, can spirituality be found only in religion and religious ideology / theology?
    The correct answer to this question also answers the others you ask. 
    Not. It just means that the listener realizes how much delusion there is in Samuel Herd’s spirituality.
    So you're saying the confrontation with Samuel Herd and GB is a confrontation with God personally? How far you are ready to go with such perspective?
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in I doubt that Disturbed was thinking what I was thinking   
    The lyrics are quite good.  It seems to depend on what "world" and what light you are speaking about.  There are two sides of spiritual light; one side is fake, crafted by the devil. (2 Cor 11:13-15)   The other side is the genuine light of Christ through his teachings. (John 1:1-4) Besides other interpretations, this song can be viewed in two opposing ways; one by those who live under the fake light of a masquerade - those in the "world" of the Wt.  The other interpretation is for those who leave the darkness of falsehoods, a “different Jesus” preached by eight men and their massive entourage of elder “helpers”  who love their rulership over eight million people, more than they love the light of Jesus Christ’s teachings. (2 Cor 11:4; 1 Tim 4:1)  The no longer blind ones, who keep searching for the light of truth after false teachings were fed to them for years, and while under the the fear of standing against lies for so long…finally open the door to Jesus Christ and truth.  They are those who have found the genuine light.  (John 8:12; 12:46) 
    As the song ends, 
    "Don't ignore, listen to me now (all is not forsaken)
    You need never feel broken again
    Sometimes darkness
    Can show you the light"
    " These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. 8 I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut. I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. 
    "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and repent.  Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me."  Rev 3:7,8,19,20
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    I just read Zeph 3 this morning - 
    Zeph 3 - Woe to the city of oppressors,
        rebellious and defiled!
    2 She obeys no one,
        she accepts no correction.
    She does not trust in the Lord,
        she does not draw near to her God.
    3 Her officials within her
        are roaring lions;
    her rulers are evening wolves,
        who leave nothing for the morning.
    4 Her prophets are unprincipled;
        they are treacherous people.
    Her priests profane the sanctuary
        and do violence to the law. (Ezek 44:6-9..."representing the royal priesthood...")
     
    Matt 7: 15 “Be on your guard against false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravaging wolves.”

    Matt 24:24,25 – “For false messiahs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. 25 Take note: I have told you in advance.”
    2 Pet 3 -  15 “And regard the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as also our dear brother Paul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given to him, 16 speaking of these things in all his letters. Some things in these letters are hard to understand, things the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they also do to the rest of the scriptures. 17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard that you do not get led astray by the error of these unprincipled men and fall from your firm grasp on the truth.”
    Paul related, “I know that after I am gone fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Even from among your own group men will arise, teaching perversions of the truth to draw the disciples away after them.”
    …leading astray, “even the elect”.  Matt 24:24
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    It doesn't indicate that at all.  You are too use to the way religion today is run.  You expect money to be involved; spiritual food to be bought with outlined donations and slavery, as expected by the organization you belong to.  (Rev 13:11,12,14-18) But it isn't what Jesus admonished for his followers.  (Matt 6:20-24; Luke 12:15; 1 Tim 6:6-12) If you don't believe me, why don't you email her and ask DIRECTLY if she makes money off of those who read her blogs?  Her email is on the blog.  
    Isaiah 55
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    Thank you for clarifying that for me.  I was taking it for granted that scriptural principles would be based solely, clearly, on the truth they hold, and that they would remain that way.  A "principle" can mean "a fundamental truth or proposition that serves as the foundation for a system of belief or behavior or for a chain of reasoning.
    The GB make use of a scriptural principle, such as "preaching the good news", but change the message to support their chain of reasoning - the doctrine of men.  If we consider the message preached over the years, with all of its dates and rotten teachings, the message is determined at the time by the mental behavior of the leadership; actually, deceptions created in their own minds, without the spiritual guidance of God.  (Jer 14:14; Matt 16:6)  As you say, their teachings are proven to be "unbiblical principles".  
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    In truth Dimmy, you do not want civil discussion. You just want to find fault in others.  The scriptures tell us that no one can bridle the tongue, because we are ALL imperfect.  
    However, what i do read here is people having their own opinions. Whereas you don't seem to have an opinion, you just ask question upon question upon question, just to annoy people.  
    As a former JW I admit to having faults, faults to the point of not expecting to gain entry to that 'New World'.  However I am NOT trying to lead thousands of people by telling lies. I am not pretending that God or Christ 'trusts me'. 
    The GB that you serve pretend that God and Christ 'trust them'. That same GB have given themselves the title of 'Faithful and Discreet Slave'.  That same GB are standing on top of the True Anointed remnant. That same GB are stating that those of the Anointed would be 'working against God's Hol Spirit' if those of the Anointed should gather together in prayer or Bible study. 
    So Dimmy, How are those things not questionable ??????????? 
    I use Jesus as my example. Jesus was not frightened to show people up for what they really were. 
    You will know the words that Jesus used regarding the Pharisees. You will know that Jesus threw the wicked ones out of the temple.  In fact I think you would have accused Jesus of not being civil at that time. 
    We are supposed to follow the example of Jesus Christ. Love what is good, hate what is bad. 
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    No, but I have questioned your mental behavior ever since I've been a member on this forum.
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in I doubt that Disturbed was thinking what I was thinking   
    “To the pure, everything is pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; in fact, both their mind and conscience are defiled. “
    This means,
    “Everything is pure for someone whose heart is pure.”  Why is their heart pure?  Because they do not entertain the impure.  Right? They guard their heart.   If a heart is defiled, would they perceive the pure?
    Titus 1:16 – “They claim to know God, but they deny God by the things that they do. They are detestable, disobedient, and disqualified to do anything good.”
    Rom 14 - So then, let us pursue what promotes peace and what builds up one another. 20 Do not tear down God’s work because of food. Everything is clean, but it is wrong to make someone fall by what he eats. 21 It is a good thing not to eat meat, or drink wine, or do anything that makes your brother or sister stumble.
    Now this is an interesting choice, obviously concerning literal food and the Jewish law.  How do you compare this with Matt 7:15-20 which advises us on how to choose our spiritual food?
    Which takes us back to the video and the contradictive message on music published in the magazine; and the leadership's choice for the convention, which clearly disregards the spiritual food provided as a guide.  Do they deny God by the things that they do?
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in I doubt that Disturbed was thinking what I was thinking   
    “To the pure, everything is pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; in fact, both their mind and conscience are defiled. “
    This means,
    “Everything is pure for someone whose heart is pure.”  Why is their heart pure?  Because they do not entertain the impure.  Right? They guard their heart.   If a heart is defiled, would they perceive the pure?
    Titus 1:16 – “They claim to know God, but they deny God by the things that they do. They are detestable, disobedient, and disqualified to do anything good.”
    Rom 14 - So then, let us pursue what promotes peace and what builds up one another. 20 Do not tear down God’s work because of food. Everything is clean, but it is wrong to make someone fall by what he eats. 21 It is a good thing not to eat meat, or drink wine, or do anything that makes your brother or sister stumble.
    Now this is an interesting choice, obviously concerning literal food and the Jewish law.  How do you compare this with Matt 7:15-20 which advises us on how to choose our spiritual food?
    Which takes us back to the video and the contradictive message on music published in the magazine; and the leadership's choice for the convention, which clearly disregards the spiritual food provided as a guide.  Do they deny God by the things that they do?
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in I doubt that Disturbed was thinking what I was thinking   
    I hate to say this so bluntly, but maybe the real idiots are those who are duped by a deceiving leadership.  This video reveals the worldly music used by the organization, at the end of the 2016 Regional Convention in their video on paradise.  
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in I doubt that Disturbed was thinking what I was thinking   
    The lyrics are quite good.  It seems to depend on what "world" and what light you are speaking about.  There are two sides of spiritual light; one side is fake, crafted by the devil. (2 Cor 11:13-15)   The other side is the genuine light of Christ through his teachings. (John 1:1-4) Besides other interpretations, this song can be viewed in two opposing ways; one by those who live under the fake light of a masquerade - those in the "world" of the Wt.  The other interpretation is for those who leave the darkness of falsehoods, a “different Jesus” preached by eight men and their massive entourage of elder “helpers”  who love their rulership over eight million people, more than they love the light of Jesus Christ’s teachings. (2 Cor 11:4; 1 Tim 4:1)  The no longer blind ones, who keep searching for the light of truth after false teachings were fed to them for years, and while under the the fear of standing against lies for so long…finally open the door to Jesus Christ and truth.  They are those who have found the genuine light.  (John 8:12; 12:46) 
    As the song ends, 
    "Don't ignore, listen to me now (all is not forsaken)
    You need never feel broken again
    Sometimes darkness
    Can show you the light"
    " These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. 8 I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut. I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. 
    "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and repent.  Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me."  Rev 3:7,8,19,20
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    Witness got a reaction from xero in I doubt that Disturbed was thinking what I was thinking   
    The lyrics are quite good.  It seems to depend on what "world" and what light you are speaking about.  There are two sides of spiritual light; one side is fake, crafted by the devil. (2 Cor 11:13-15)   The other side is the genuine light of Christ through his teachings. (John 1:1-4) Besides other interpretations, this song can be viewed in two opposing ways; one by those who live under the fake light of a masquerade - those in the "world" of the Wt.  The other interpretation is for those who leave the darkness of falsehoods, a “different Jesus” preached by eight men and their massive entourage of elder “helpers”  who love their rulership over eight million people, more than they love the light of Jesus Christ’s teachings. (2 Cor 11:4; 1 Tim 4:1)  The no longer blind ones, who keep searching for the light of truth after false teachings were fed to them for years, and while under the the fear of standing against lies for so long…finally open the door to Jesus Christ and truth.  They are those who have found the genuine light.  (John 8:12; 12:46) 
    As the song ends, 
    "Don't ignore, listen to me now (all is not forsaken)
    You need never feel broken again
    Sometimes darkness
    Can show you the light"
    " These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. 8 I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut. I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. 
    "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and repent.  Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me."  Rev 3:7,8,19,20
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in I doubt that Disturbed was thinking what I was thinking   
    Without a parable Jesus would not speak.
    Without a worldly video @xero would not write  
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    Thank you for clarifying that for me.  I was taking it for granted that scriptural principles would be based solely, clearly, on the truth they hold, and that they would remain that way.  A "principle" can mean "a fundamental truth or proposition that serves as the foundation for a system of belief or behavior or for a chain of reasoning.
    The GB make use of a scriptural principle, such as "preaching the good news", but change the message to support their chain of reasoning - the doctrine of men.  If we consider the message preached over the years, with all of its dates and rotten teachings, the message is determined at the time by the mental behavior of the leadership; actually, deceptions created in their own minds, without the spiritual guidance of God.  (Jer 14:14; Matt 16:6)  As you say, their teachings are proven to be "unbiblical principles".  
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    It is interesting to note here that "scriptural principles" are mentioned. How can principles be drawn from a Bible passage or passage? In many ways. But, the "only correct" way is for the elders to explain it to you, because a layman can make a wrong conclusion if he/she read the Bible by himself/herself, right? :))
    Now, who explains to the elders what the principles are? Well, it is clear that this can only come from "Jehovah's organization", they say in WTJWorg. What is "Jehovah's Organization"? In this context, but also in most other contexts, it is the Supreme Church Body aka GB. 
    Of course we have Samuel Herd, one of GB Director who recently argues/claims that YHVH does not always/many times allow GB to see the meaning of what is written in the Bible, no matter how much they reading and praying for illumination. 
    How many years does it take for YHVH to "allow proper understanding" as they say? And what should be called “inappropriate/wrong understanding,” which in the meantime governs decisions based on “unbiblical principles”? 
    Some representatives of several JW stream/tendency on this forum, such as @Dmitar, forget that their principles are influenced by WTJWorg unprincipledness.
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    Of course. But because of our mutual disagreement, I will not stop greeting you if we meet on the street.
     If my participation with just one article can refute your claim I will be glad. :)) 
    Vatican issues Vademecum: procedures regarding cases of sexual abuse of minors
    Srecko Sostar posted a topic in Catholicism's Topics
    Normally. So who would be smart to believe, to put faith in any nonsense from WTJWorg?
    An emoticon tagging system is something you use in abundance because you most often use a down vote emoticon. Projecting of your sentiments?  
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    On the Wt's website, the words "governing body" and "apostles" are mentioned in the same article, 523 times.  192 times in the same paragraph; 119 times in the same sentence.  The seed was planted early on, that the present Governing Body, are today's apostles. 
    "The Governing Body follows the pattern set by “the apostles and elders in Jerusalem” in the first century, who made important decisions on behalf of the entire Christian congregation. (Acts 15:2) Like those faithful men, the members of the Governing Body are not the leaders of our organization. They look to the Bible for guidance, acknowledging that Jehovah God has appointed Jesus Christ as the Head of the congregation. Frequently Asked Questions About Jehovah’s Witnesses p. 41
    Like the first-century apostles and elders in Jerusalem, the Governing Body gives direction to the global congregation. Enjoy Life Forever!—An Interactive Bible Course p. 83
    "But I am afraid that somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve in his craftiness, so your minds might be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he who comes preaches another Jesus, whom we didn’t preach, or if you receive a different spirit, which you didn’t receive, or a different “good news”, which you didn’t accept, you put up with that well enough. 5 For I reckon that I am not at all behind the very best apostles. 
    But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from those who desire an occasion, that in which they boast, they may be found even as we. 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as Christ’s apostles. 14 And no wonder, for even Satan masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is no great thing therefore if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works."  2 Cor 11
    I'd hate to be in the shoes of the GB when they face not only Jesus Christ, but his genuine apostles.  Jesus said to them, "Most certainly I tell you that you who have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of Man will sit on the throne of his glory, you also will sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."  Matt  19:28
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    This is the link to the article mentioned here, “The Remaining Ones”, by Pearl Doxsey who does not “subscribe” to any one tool that is readily available on the internet for a sincere Bible student’s use. 
    The Remaining Ones 
    There is no money-making scheme that Pearl and all the disciples of Christ who read and share her articles, are involved in.  There are no donations taken, no member role, no tallying of hours in a preaching work, no construction of massive building efforts, no rigid program that must be held to, no answering to men, no involvement in politics, or investments in the stock market or hedge funds  - no earthly organization.   There is nothing but spiritual food offered to those who care to read it, and have their questions answered.  The rest is up to the individual and their relationship with God and Jesus Christ. 
    “For we are not as so many, peddling the word of God. But as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God, we speak in Christ.” 2 Cor 2:17
    Here is a link for any who desire to understand who inherit the earth,
    Judgment of "Heaven" and "Earth"
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    On the Wt's website, the words "governing body" and "apostles" are mentioned in the same article, 523 times.  192 times in the same paragraph; 119 times in the same sentence.  The seed was planted early on, that the present Governing Body, are today's apostles. 
    "The Governing Body follows the pattern set by “the apostles and elders in Jerusalem” in the first century, who made important decisions on behalf of the entire Christian congregation. (Acts 15:2) Like those faithful men, the members of the Governing Body are not the leaders of our organization. They look to the Bible for guidance, acknowledging that Jehovah God has appointed Jesus Christ as the Head of the congregation. Frequently Asked Questions About Jehovah’s Witnesses p. 41
    Like the first-century apostles and elders in Jerusalem, the Governing Body gives direction to the global congregation. Enjoy Life Forever!—An Interactive Bible Course p. 83
    "But I am afraid that somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve in his craftiness, so your minds might be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he who comes preaches another Jesus, whom we didn’t preach, or if you receive a different spirit, which you didn’t receive, or a different “good news”, which you didn’t accept, you put up with that well enough. 5 For I reckon that I am not at all behind the very best apostles. 
    But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from those who desire an occasion, that in which they boast, they may be found even as we. 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as Christ’s apostles. 14 And no wonder, for even Satan masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is no great thing therefore if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works."  2 Cor 11
    I'd hate to be in the shoes of the GB when they face not only Jesus Christ, but his genuine apostles.  Jesus said to them, "Most certainly I tell you that you who have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of Man will sit on the throne of his glory, you also will sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."  Matt  19:28
     
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    So tell me, did Jesus speak evil of the Pharisies ? OR, did Jesus only speak TRUTH ? 
    If the sins of a man are made known as a warning to others, is that speaking evil of that man, or is it speaking truth ? 
    Truth is not evil.  When crimes and sin have been commited by someone, it should be made known. 
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    When someone projects a doctrine to thousands of people, convincing them that what they claim is proven truth, but later is revealed as a lie...that act against truth is an assassination of character of the millions of people who believed the lie.  There is no righteousness in a lie.  None.  The governing leaders have no deep heart-felt concern, no compassion for the sake of the hearer. They display absolute slander against the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit by promoting their organization as "the truth".  
     
    Incredibly, the eight compare themselves to the apostles. (2 Cor 11:13)  The word “apostle” describes one set forth as a special “commissioner of Christ”. Paul, “called to be an apostle”, (Rom 1:1) fulfilled this role as a teacher and a prophet given miraculous powers. If a JW would just compare Paul’s works to those of the governing leaders - their “fruits” (Matt 7:15,20), the absence of love for Christ’s anointed members, thus for Jesus Christ and Truth - the distinction between who is an ambassador of Christ and who is not, would be crystal clear. The distinction between truth and lies would be glaringly apparent to them. 
     Paul said the following words to Timothy, about his fellow workers, “the elect”: 
     “Remember that Jesus Christ, of the seed of David, was raised from the dead according to my gospel, 9 for which I suffer trouble as an evildoer, even to the point of chains; but the word of God is not chained. 10 Therefore I endure all things for the sake of the elect, that they also may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
    11 This is a faithful saying:
    For if we died with Him,
    We shall also live with Him.
    12 If we endure,
    We shall also reign with Him.
    If we deny Him,
    He also will deny us.
    13 If we are faithless,
    He remains faithful;
    He cannot deny Himself.
    14 Remind them of these things, charging them before the Lord not to strive about words to no profit, to the ruin of the hearers. 15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and  idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. 17 And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, 18 who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some. 19 Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: “The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.” 2 Tim chapter 2
    I said, "Will any teaching by the Watchtower be proven as clear and truthful?  Think about it, JWs.  If this organization was blessed by God's Holy Spirit, would that Spirit mislead its leaders into telling a falsehood for over seventy years?  It was once proven that Gog was Satan; will it be proven in ten year's time that what was once CLEAR TRUTH about "Gog" now being a coalition of nation, will be found to be a falsehood? "
     The apostle Paul said, "But shun profane and  idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. 17 And their message will spread like cancer.
    The organization and its leadership who promote lies, is a cancerous growth.  A person with cancer can either ignore it and die, or do his best to fight against it's deathly hold, by seeking help.  Don't settle, JWs, for men who continue to fill your minds with doctrine that are of "no profit, to the ruin of the hearers".  Jesus is the "Way, the Truth and the Life".  Seek his words, not the words of liars.  John 14:6
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in THE WATCHTOWER HISTORY OF GOG OF MAGOG   
    When someone projects a doctrine to thousands of people, convincing them that what they claim is proven truth, but later is revealed as a lie...that act against truth is an assassination of character of the millions of people who believed the lie.  There is no righteousness in a lie.  None.  The governing leaders have no deep heart-felt concern, no compassion for the sake of the hearer. They display absolute slander against the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit by promoting their organization as "the truth".  
     
    Incredibly, the eight compare themselves to the apostles. (2 Cor 11:13)  The word “apostle” describes one set forth as a special “commissioner of Christ”. Paul, “called to be an apostle”, (Rom 1:1) fulfilled this role as a teacher and a prophet given miraculous powers. If a JW would just compare Paul’s works to those of the governing leaders - their “fruits” (Matt 7:15,20), the absence of love for Christ’s anointed members, thus for Jesus Christ and Truth - the distinction between who is an ambassador of Christ and who is not, would be crystal clear. The distinction between truth and lies would be glaringly apparent to them. 
     Paul said the following words to Timothy, about his fellow workers, “the elect”: 
     “Remember that Jesus Christ, of the seed of David, was raised from the dead according to my gospel, 9 for which I suffer trouble as an evildoer, even to the point of chains; but the word of God is not chained. 10 Therefore I endure all things for the sake of the elect, that they also may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
    11 This is a faithful saying:
    For if we died with Him,
    We shall also live with Him.
    12 If we endure,
    We shall also reign with Him.
    If we deny Him,
    He also will deny us.
    13 If we are faithless,
    He remains faithful;
    He cannot deny Himself.
    14 Remind them of these things, charging them before the Lord not to strive about words to no profit, to the ruin of the hearers. 15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and  idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. 17 And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, 18 who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some. 19 Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: “The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.” 2 Tim chapter 2
    I said, "Will any teaching by the Watchtower be proven as clear and truthful?  Think about it, JWs.  If this organization was blessed by God's Holy Spirit, would that Spirit mislead its leaders into telling a falsehood for over seventy years?  It was once proven that Gog was Satan; will it be proven in ten year's time that what was once CLEAR TRUTH about "Gog" now being a coalition of nation, will be found to be a falsehood? "
     The apostle Paul said, "But shun profane and  idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. 17 And their message will spread like cancer.
    The organization and its leadership who promote lies, is a cancerous growth.  A person with cancer can either ignore it and die, or do his best to fight against it's deathly hold, by seeking help.  Don't settle, JWs, for men who continue to fill your minds with doctrine that are of "no profit, to the ruin of the hearers".  Jesus is the "Way, the Truth and the Life".  Seek his words, not the words of liars.  John 14:6
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Amidstheroses in The Most Important News About Covid-19 !!!   
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-12-02-smoking-gun-pfizer-document-exposes-fda-criminal-cover-up-of-vaccine-deaths.html
     
    Thanks to the efforts of a group called Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency, we now have smoking gun confidential documents that show Pfizer and the FDA knew in early 2021 that pfizer’s mRNA vaccines were killing thousands of people and causing spontaneous abortions while damaging three times more women than men.
    One confidential document in particular was part of a court-ordered release of FDA files that the FDA fought by claiming the agency should have 55 years to release this information. A court judge disagreed and ordered the release of 500 documents per month, and the very first batch of documents contained this bombshell entitled, “Cumulative Analysis of Post-Authorization Adverse Event Reports.”
    https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf
    Or here, mirrored on NN servers:
    https://www.naturalnews.com/files/536-postmarketing-experience.pdf
    The document reveals that within just 90 days after the EUA release of Pfizer’s mRNA vaccine, the company was already aware of voluntary adverse reaction reports that revealed 1,223 deaths and over 42,000 adverse reports describing a total of 158,893 adverse reactions. The reports originated from numerous countries, including the United States, United Kingdom, Italy, Germany, France, Portugal, Spain and other nations.
    Aside from “general disorders,” the No. 1 most frequently reported category of mRNA vaccine adverse reactions was Nervous system disorders, clocking in at 25,957 reports.
     
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