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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in Can a Person Resign From Being One of Jehovah’s Witnesses?   
    You might want to get your facts straight.  I have never "denounced" YHVH/YHWH.  I use it frequently.  And I have never denounced "Adonai", or "Abba", or the "Ancient of Days", or "Elohim".  It is not blasphemy to say the "Almighty God", or "Father" as Jesus did.  In fact your own bible uses the phrase "Almighty God".   If you think one is righteous for uttering the name "Jehovah", I feel very sorry for you.  
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in Can a Person Resign From Being One of Jehovah’s Witnesses?   
    https://midwestoutreach.org/2018/02/01/is-gods-name-jehovah/
    Is God’s Name Jehovah?
    Jehovah’s Witnesses and other Sacred Name groups lit up the Internet last week when Religion News Service claimed, “The original Hebrew name of God re-discovered in 1,000 Bible manuscripts.” At first glance, it sounds like the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society has perhaps been vindicated after all for inserting the name Jehovah into their New World Translation:
    On January 21, 2018, Bible Scholar Nehemia Gordon and his team of researchers discovered the 1,000th Hebrew Bible manuscript containing the original name of God in Hebrew with vowels.
    For two hundred years, scholars have believed based on Greek sources and conjecture that the Hebrew name of God was originally pronounced “Yahweh.” In late 2016, Gordon found never-translated traditional Jewish sources that explicitly identified the vowels of God’s name in Hebrew as “Yehovah.” This is similar to the English Jehovah, but with a “Y” and the emphasis on the final syllable.
    This article, however, is more hype than reality. Nehemia Gordon is the leading light in a “revival” of a sect called Karaite Judaism. The Karaites originated in the late eighth century AD. They adhered, as do today’s proponents, to the written text of the Old Testament only, refusing both the Talmud and rabbinic traditions. They considered themselves purists, restoring true Judaism. They regarded use of anything other than the Old Testament as Pharisaism. Some of the Hebrew Roots Movement have been drawn to Gordon because he seems a bit friendly toward Jesus, yet he outright rejects the idea that Jesus is the Messiah.
    But what are we to make of the article’s claim of manuscript evidence for this Yehovah pronunciation of God’s name?
    Somewhere during the ninth and tenth centuries, a group called the Masoretes arbitrarily put vowels into the Old Testament text in an attempt to standardize pronunciations. The particular Hebrew Manuscript used was the text of ben Ashur. Until the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, it was the oldest Old Testament text we had, and every translation team of the newer Bible versions used it. Again, the vowels are arbitrary, put into the text to standardize pronunciation. Wikipedia notes something important:
    It has been suggested that the ben Asher family and the majority of the Masoretes were Karaites.
    The vowels were added by the Karaites.
    The ben Ashur text – or most of it – is held by Israel. Some of it is lost. It is called the Keter (Crown) and is also referred to as The Aleppo Codex:
    The Aleppo Codex (Hebrew: כֶּתֶר אֲרָם צוֹבָא‎ Keter Aram Tzova or Crown of Aleppo) is a medieval bound manuscript of the Hebrew Bible. The codex was written in the city of Tiberias, in what is currently northern Israel, in the 10th century C.E.
    So, what we essentially have is a late Jewish restorationist movement (and you thought we only had that in “Christendom”), adding vowels to the Hebrew text and then claiming a newly discovered confirmation of the pronunciation of God’s name!
    So, while the headlines may appear to be a breaking story of newly discovered information, it is not new, and the story is contrived. Realistically, how newsworthy would a headline be, reading “One-thousandth Copy of Tenth Century Hebrew Bible with Vowels Arbitrarily Added Has Been Discovered by the Sect That Added the Vowels”?
    Like most Watchtower Society “proofs,” it provides no proof at all — just much ado about nothing.
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in Can a Person Resign From Being One of Jehovah’s Witnesses?   
    As if I have never written here about Jesus? You know I have intensely concentrated on Christ, since you've read many of my comments.   How is it, that particular JWs on here have no problem spouting off lies?    When people have to rely on lies to cut down their opponent,  it shows that they have no other "ammo", but to slander.  Just like the governing body.
    That's really okay.  It just amazes me how Jesus' words have been fulfilled in the last days.
     “Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to them.
    11 “Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you and say all kinds of evil things about you falsely on account of me"  Matt 5:10,11
    Meaning Yah Will Save, Yah Saves Etymology From (1) יה (yah), the name of the Lord, and (2) the verb ישע (yasha'), to save. Related names • Via יה (yah See the 'browse by form' menu for a long list of yah-names. • Via ישע (yasha' Abishua, Bar-Jesus, Bath-shua, Chemosh, Elisha, Elishah, Elishua, Hosanna, Hosea, Hoshaiah, Isaiah, Ishi, Jason, Jeshua, Joshua, Malchi-shua, Mesha, Shuah   https://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Jesus.html  
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in Can a Person Resign From Being One of Jehovah’s Witnesses?   
    You are not understanding.
    Therefore you pray in this way:
    “Our Father who is in heaven,
    may Your name be treated as holy.”  Matt 6:9
    Jesus and his disciples never used a word that is a mix of consonants and vowels put together by men, as a way to show respect to the Father. The use of that hybrid didn’t happen for centuries later.  Does this mean that the Christians in the first century were “disrespectful” for not saying, “Jehovah”?
    You can say, “Jehovah” a hundred times a day and it proves nothing.  It does not prove that you respect the name of God.  It does not prove that God is your Father, especially if you follow the doctrines of men.
    To treat God’s name as holy means respecting and adhering to His laws in Jesus Christ.  In the Kingdom, the faithful anointed who will rule with Jesus  will have “on their forehead”, the name of God and of Jesus.  Do you believe this is a literal tattoo on their forehead?  Do you believe they will be verbalizing the name, “Jehovah”, or does this meaning of Rev 14:1, go deeper?
    “And you shall put these, My words, on your heart and on your inner self, and you shall bind them as a sign on your hand and let them be as an emblem between your eyes. And you shall teach them to your children by talking about them when you sit in your house and when you travel on the road and when you lie down and when you get up.”  Deut 11:18,19
    For this is the covenant that I will decree with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I am putting My laws in their minds and I will write them on their hearts, and I will be their God and they will be my people.  Heb 8:10
    We are respectful of the holy name of God, by our choice to follow only His laws in Christ, that those laws only, are holy. (Matt 6:9)  Since your leaders change doctrine regularly to accommodate their reign, riches, and reputation, they show no respect for the teachings of Jesus Christ, and they show no respect for the Almighty God. They demand their laws, the laws of men,  to be written on one’s forehead; symbolically, in the heart and mind of JWs. (Rev 13:11,12,14,16,17; Matt chapter 23)
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in Can a Person Resign From Being One of Jehovah’s Witnesses?   
    How can anyone treat a hybrid name compiled around the 14th century or so, with "disrespect"?
    “Jehovah” is a modern mispronunciation of the Hebrew name, resulting from combining the consonants of that name, Jhvh, with the vowels of the word ădōnāy, “Lord,” which the Jews substituted for the proper name in reading the scriptures. In such cases of substitution the vowels of the word which is to be read are written in the Hebrew text with the consonants of the word which is not to be read."  https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclopædia_Britannica/Jehovah
    Now, JWs who attribute their false doctrine to God, their organization's existence to God, do blaspheme the "name" of God.  2 Thess 2:9-12
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in "THEY WORSHIP ME IN VAIN, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN"   
    Quote from the 2016/1/24 Wt. magazine, pp. 22-27:
    “In addition, anointed Christians do not view themselves as being part of an elite club. They do not seek out others who claim to have the same calling, hoping to bond with them or endeavoring to form private groups for Bible study. (Gal 1:15-17) Such efforts would cause divisions within the congregation and work against the holy spirit, which promotes peace and unity.”  Wt 16/1/24, pp. 22-27
    The above is a sarcastic example of spiritual, emotional and mental abuse used to devour the anointed in the organization. (Ps 73:8; Ezek 36:6,7; Isa 3:12-15;  Zeph 2:8; Dan 11:31,36; Rev 9:1-4; 13:5-7)
    Their use of Gal 1:15-17, is quite hypocritical, since it is required that the “preaching work” by JWs follow the strict mandate of the governing body and their army of elders, who “bond” together, and who consult with one another, several times weekly. (Rev 2:20; 13:11,12,16,17)  These scriptures actually help prove that there was not an organization with a governing body in the first century, that Paul felt he had to answer to. 
    Paul; a prophet, a teacher, a leader, a priest. was sent by Christ to instruct those called as priests out of the Jewish and Gentiles nations, of their spiritual obligation to one another in the house of God. (Acts 9:15; Rom 15:14-19; Eph 3:6,8)  He, with Jesus Christ and all of the apostles, laid the foundation of truth – a foundation built with faithful “living stones” of God’s anointed priesthood.   (1 Pet 2:4-10; 1 Cor 3:10; Eph 2:20-22)
     
     Ephesians chapter 4:
    “Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
    12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.
    14 Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming. 15 Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ. 16 From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.
    1 Corinthians chapter 12:
    “Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 
     Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. 14 Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many.
    The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” And the head cannot say to the feet, “I don’t need you!” 22 On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, 24 while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25 so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. 26 If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.
    Incredibly, God’s word completely contradicts the words of the magazine.  What hold more weight in the mind of a JW, the doctrine of men who cannot tolerate any threat to their rule, or the words of God?
    “Anyone who does not remain in Christ’s teaching but goes beyond it does not have God. The one who remains in that teaching, this one has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your home, and do not greet him; 11 for the one who greets him shares in his evil works.”  1 John 2:9-11
    We are in the middle of a war of words, spoken by the sons of the kingdom, and sons of the wicked one. (Joel 3:14; Mal 3:18; Matt 13:38-43)  Lies promoted by false teachers/prophets harbor the demonic intent to “deceive the elect”. (Matt 24:24,25; Col 2:8; 1 Tim 4:1; Rev 9:13:10, 5-7)   
    This war against the “saints” is “inhouse”, not on the political battlefield of the world. (Luke 17:20) It is where a great army of “Gentile” elders have overcome a spiritual people – God’s priests of “Israel” -  with a “flood” of lies.  (Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:1-4; Rev 11:1,2;1 Cor 3:16;17; Rev 12:15; 16:13-16)
     How many times as a JW did we hear…
    “Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.”  1 Pet 5:8
    He seeks to trample and devour the “kings of the earth”, (Rev 1:5; 16:14; 20:7-9) and although the anointed believe Satan is in the wicked world outside of the organization, outside of their “spiritual paradise” and “peace and security” (1 Thess 5:3),  Proverbs gives us a better perspective.
    The lazy person claims, “There is a lion in the road!
        There’s a lion in the streets!”
    14 The door turns on its hinges—
        as does the lazy person on his bed.    Prov 26:13,14
     
    Anointed "Priests" and prophets must warn people according to God's truth...for their protection, awareness, and vigilance to present danger (Jer 28:8; Ezek 3:4,18; Mal 2:7; Dan 12:3,10; Matt 24:45).

    The war is not over yet! (Rev 12:17; Eph 6:12; 2 Cor 2:9; 11:3; 10:4-6; Matt 24:13,11,10; 10:22; Luke 13:24) 
    Any "walls" erected by men, to keep Satan out are an illusion...as long as he still dominates the world (1 John 5:19; Eph 5:15,16). Our only true protection is the meaning of YHWH's name (Prov 18:10) which is that HE is our only saviour (Isa 43:11; 2:22; Rev 14:7; Ps 146:3; 118:8).
     We must have faith and trust in HIM and the truth of His Word, (not the doctrines of a human organization -Jer 17:5; 1 John 4:1; Mark 7:7,8), in order to possess a realistic spiritual shield (Eph 6:13,16).
    The anointed are not protected from Satan's machinations by means of a membership in an organization, nor by obedience to it. (Rev 12:17; Luke 22:31; Rom 6:16; 1 Cor 7:23)
    Pearl Doxsey
    What's Wrong with "Peace and Security"?
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Can a Person Resign From Being One of Jehovah’s Witnesses?   
    You are not understanding.
    Therefore you pray in this way:
    “Our Father who is in heaven,
    may Your name be treated as holy.”  Matt 6:9
    Jesus and his disciples never used a word that is a mix of consonants and vowels put together by men, as a way to show respect to the Father. The use of that hybrid didn’t happen for centuries later.  Does this mean that the Christians in the first century were “disrespectful” for not saying, “Jehovah”?
    You can say, “Jehovah” a hundred times a day and it proves nothing.  It does not prove that you respect the name of God.  It does not prove that God is your Father, especially if you follow the doctrines of men.
    To treat God’s name as holy means respecting and adhering to His laws in Jesus Christ.  In the Kingdom, the faithful anointed who will rule with Jesus  will have “on their forehead”, the name of God and of Jesus.  Do you believe this is a literal tattoo on their forehead?  Do you believe they will be verbalizing the name, “Jehovah”, or does this meaning of Rev 14:1, go deeper?
    “And you shall put these, My words, on your heart and on your inner self, and you shall bind them as a sign on your hand and let them be as an emblem between your eyes. And you shall teach them to your children by talking about them when you sit in your house and when you travel on the road and when you lie down and when you get up.”  Deut 11:18,19
    For this is the covenant that I will decree with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I am putting My laws in their minds and I will write them on their hearts, and I will be their God and they will be my people.  Heb 8:10
    We are respectful of the holy name of God, by our choice to follow only His laws in Christ, that those laws only, are holy. (Matt 6:9)  Since your leaders change doctrine regularly to accommodate their reign, riches, and reputation, they show no respect for the teachings of Jesus Christ, and they show no respect for the Almighty God. They demand their laws, the laws of men,  to be written on one’s forehead; symbolically, in the heart and mind of JWs. (Rev 13:11,12,14,16,17; Matt chapter 23)
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Can a Person Resign From Being One of Jehovah’s Witnesses?   
    How can anyone treat a hybrid name compiled around the 14th century or so, with "disrespect"?
    “Jehovah” is a modern mispronunciation of the Hebrew name, resulting from combining the consonants of that name, Jhvh, with the vowels of the word ădōnāy, “Lord,” which the Jews substituted for the proper name in reading the scriptures. In such cases of substitution the vowels of the word which is to be read are written in the Hebrew text with the consonants of the word which is not to be read."  https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclopædia_Britannica/Jehovah
    Now, JWs who attribute their false doctrine to God, their organization's existence to God, do blaspheme the "name" of God.  2 Thess 2:9-12
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Can a Person Resign From Being One of Jehovah’s Witnesses?   
    You are not understanding.
    Therefore you pray in this way:
    “Our Father who is in heaven,
    may Your name be treated as holy.”  Matt 6:9
    Jesus and his disciples never used a word that is a mix of consonants and vowels put together by men, as a way to show respect to the Father. The use of that hybrid didn’t happen for centuries later.  Does this mean that the Christians in the first century were “disrespectful” for not saying, “Jehovah”?
    You can say, “Jehovah” a hundred times a day and it proves nothing.  It does not prove that you respect the name of God.  It does not prove that God is your Father, especially if you follow the doctrines of men.
    To treat God’s name as holy means respecting and adhering to His laws in Jesus Christ.  In the Kingdom, the faithful anointed who will rule with Jesus  will have “on their forehead”, the name of God and of Jesus.  Do you believe this is a literal tattoo on their forehead?  Do you believe they will be verbalizing the name, “Jehovah”, or does this meaning of Rev 14:1, go deeper?
    “And you shall put these, My words, on your heart and on your inner self, and you shall bind them as a sign on your hand and let them be as an emblem between your eyes. And you shall teach them to your children by talking about them when you sit in your house and when you travel on the road and when you lie down and when you get up.”  Deut 11:18,19
    For this is the covenant that I will decree with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I am putting My laws in their minds and I will write them on their hearts, and I will be their God and they will be my people.  Heb 8:10
    We are respectful of the holy name of God, by our choice to follow only His laws in Christ, that those laws only, are holy. (Matt 6:9)  Since your leaders change doctrine regularly to accommodate their reign, riches, and reputation, they show no respect for the teachings of Jesus Christ, and they show no respect for the Almighty God. They demand their laws, the laws of men,  to be written on one’s forehead; symbolically, in the heart and mind of JWs. (Rev 13:11,12,14,16,17; Matt chapter 23)
     
     
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    You are not understanding.
    Therefore you pray in this way:
    “Our Father who is in heaven,
    may Your name be treated as holy.”  Matt 6:9
    Jesus and his disciples never used a word that is a mix of consonants and vowels put together by men, as a way to show respect to the Father. The use of that hybrid didn’t happen for centuries later.  Does this mean that the Christians in the first century were “disrespectful” for not saying, “Jehovah”?
    You can say, “Jehovah” a hundred times a day and it proves nothing.  It does not prove that you respect the name of God.  It does not prove that God is your Father, especially if you follow the doctrines of men.
    To treat God’s name as holy means respecting and adhering to His laws in Jesus Christ.  In the Kingdom, the faithful anointed who will rule with Jesus  will have “on their forehead”, the name of God and of Jesus.  Do you believe this is a literal tattoo on their forehead?  Do you believe they will be verbalizing the name, “Jehovah”, or does this meaning of Rev 14:1, go deeper?
    “And you shall put these, My words, on your heart and on your inner self, and you shall bind them as a sign on your hand and let them be as an emblem between your eyes. And you shall teach them to your children by talking about them when you sit in your house and when you travel on the road and when you lie down and when you get up.”  Deut 11:18,19
    For this is the covenant that I will decree with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I am putting My laws in their minds and I will write them on their hearts, and I will be their God and they will be my people.  Heb 8:10
    We are respectful of the holy name of God, by our choice to follow only His laws in Christ, that those laws only, are holy. (Matt 6:9)  Since your leaders change doctrine regularly to accommodate their reign, riches, and reputation, they show no respect for the teachings of Jesus Christ, and they show no respect for the Almighty God. They demand their laws, the laws of men,  to be written on one’s forehead; symbolically, in the heart and mind of JWs. (Rev 13:11,12,14,16,17; Matt chapter 23)
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in GOG AND MAGOG   
    Mark Sanderson claims Russia is “The King of the North”.
    “Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “On that day when My people Israel dwell safely, will you not know it? 15 Then you will come from your place out of the far north, you and many peoples with you, all of them riding on horses, a great company and a mighty army. 16 You will come up against My people Israel like a cloud, to cover the land. It will be in the latter days that I will bring you against My land, so that the nations may know Me, when I am hallowed in you, O Gog, before their eyes.” Ezek 38:14-16
    He says, “does this mean that the attack of Gog of Magog has begun?” 
    Geoffrey Jackson:  “The attack of Gog of Magog does not occur before the outbreak of the Great Tribulation”  It is toward the end of the Great Tribulation.”
     Sounds like they're talking about the same event to me, only they don't agree when it begins/occurs.
    This video gives two different points of view held by WT, of the presence of Gog and Magog.
    1.     Now, as Russia, the King of the North
    2.    At the end of Armageddon
    Hopefully you heard the scripture at the end of the video:
    Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them.  Rev 20:7-9
    The third visit by Gog and Magog:
    WT 88/10/15 p. 20 -   At the end of the thousand years, mankind will have been raised to   perfection. What an appropriate time for Satan to make his final appearance on the earthly scene! Once again he will try to deceive mankind, and some will follow him, even then. These are significantly called “Gog and Magog” since they will manifest the same evil spirit as that shown by ‘Gog’s crowd’ in Ezekiel’s prophecy. But their rebellious spirit will be wiped out for all eternity when they, along with Satan himself and his demons, are cast into the symbolic lake of fire. (Revelation 20:7-10; Ezekiel 39:11) 
    Revelation speaks of one event, after a symbolic “thousand years” have ended.   Geoffrey Jackson is saying it occurs at the very end of Armageddon.  The quote above clarifies what happens to Gog and Magog:
    10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
    They’re toast – history.  Since your leaders are now teaching that Gog and Magog are present now, and also will arrive toward the end of the Great Tribulation,  when did the thousand year reign of Christ end?  If Gog and Magog appear a thousand years after Armageddon as well, how is that possible if they are “tormented day and night forever and ever”at the end of Armageddon?  
     PS 110:1,2  The Lord said to my Lord,
    “Sit at My right hand,
    Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.”
    2 The Lord shall send the rod of Your strength out of Zion.
    Rule in the midst of Your enemies!
    "Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.  "  1 Cor 15:24-26
    Satan and death are destroyed at Armageddon's finish.
    The “thousand years” began in the first century, and has now ended.  Since your leaders are very confused about when Gog and Magog make their appearance, saying it occurs before and after a thousand years beyond Armageddon,  then how can you trust WHO they say Gog and Magog really are?
    Gog and Magog surround the “saints”, “Israel” by using deceit sourced in the devil.  Do any Watchtower videos mention this, that it is by deceit that God’s holy people are “surrounded”?  Nope.  As this video portrays and narrated by G. Jackson, Christ apparently steps in when God’s people are the only religion left and are enjoying “spiritual prosperity”.  So, when did the deceit occur?
    “The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where also the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.”
    The Beast and false prophet/Beast with two horns of Revelation 13:1,11 ARE Gog and Magog. 
    Who would deceive God’s people if not a false prophet?  Who “conquers the saints” – yes, they are conquered – if not by what a a false prophet directs?  Rev 13:5-7,11,12
    Mark 13:22 – “For false christs and false prophets will rise and show signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.”
     
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    How can anyone treat a hybrid name compiled around the 14th century or so, with "disrespect"?
    “Jehovah” is a modern mispronunciation of the Hebrew name, resulting from combining the consonants of that name, Jhvh, with the vowels of the word ădōnāy, “Lord,” which the Jews substituted for the proper name in reading the scriptures. In such cases of substitution the vowels of the word which is to be read are written in the Hebrew text with the consonants of the word which is not to be read."  https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclopædia_Britannica/Jehovah
    Now, JWs who attribute their false doctrine to God, their organization's existence to God, do blaspheme the "name" of God.  2 Thess 2:9-12
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in "THEY WORSHIP ME IN VAIN, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN"   
    Quote from the 2016/1/24 Wt. magazine, pp. 22-27:
    “In addition, anointed Christians do not view themselves as being part of an elite club. They do not seek out others who claim to have the same calling, hoping to bond with them or endeavoring to form private groups for Bible study. (Gal 1:15-17) Such efforts would cause divisions within the congregation and work against the holy spirit, which promotes peace and unity.”  Wt 16/1/24, pp. 22-27
    The above is a sarcastic example of spiritual, emotional and mental abuse used to devour the anointed in the organization. (Ps 73:8; Ezek 36:6,7; Isa 3:12-15;  Zeph 2:8; Dan 11:31,36; Rev 9:1-4; 13:5-7)
    Their use of Gal 1:15-17, is quite hypocritical, since it is required that the “preaching work” by JWs follow the strict mandate of the governing body and their army of elders, who “bond” together, and who consult with one another, several times weekly. (Rev 2:20; 13:11,12,16,17)  These scriptures actually help prove that there was not an organization with a governing body in the first century, that Paul felt he had to answer to. 
    Paul; a prophet, a teacher, a leader, a priest. was sent by Christ to instruct those called as priests out of the Jewish and Gentiles nations, of their spiritual obligation to one another in the house of God. (Acts 9:15; Rom 15:14-19; Eph 3:6,8)  He, with Jesus Christ and all of the apostles, laid the foundation of truth – a foundation built with faithful “living stones” of God’s anointed priesthood.   (1 Pet 2:4-10; 1 Cor 3:10; Eph 2:20-22)
     
     Ephesians chapter 4:
    “Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
    12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.
    14 Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming. 15 Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ. 16 From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.
    1 Corinthians chapter 12:
    “Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 
     Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. 14 Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many.
    The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” And the head cannot say to the feet, “I don’t need you!” 22 On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, 24 while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25 so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. 26 If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.
    Incredibly, God’s word completely contradicts the words of the magazine.  What hold more weight in the mind of a JW, the doctrine of men who cannot tolerate any threat to their rule, or the words of God?
    “Anyone who does not remain in Christ’s teaching but goes beyond it does not have God. The one who remains in that teaching, this one has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your home, and do not greet him; 11 for the one who greets him shares in his evil works.”  1 John 2:9-11
    We are in the middle of a war of words, spoken by the sons of the kingdom, and sons of the wicked one. (Joel 3:14; Mal 3:18; Matt 13:38-43)  Lies promoted by false teachers/prophets harbor the demonic intent to “deceive the elect”. (Matt 24:24,25; Col 2:8; 1 Tim 4:1; Rev 9:13:10, 5-7)   
    This war against the “saints” is “inhouse”, not on the political battlefield of the world. (Luke 17:20) It is where a great army of “Gentile” elders have overcome a spiritual people – God’s priests of “Israel” -  with a “flood” of lies.  (Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:1-4; Rev 11:1,2;1 Cor 3:16;17; Rev 12:15; 16:13-16)
     How many times as a JW did we hear…
    “Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.”  1 Pet 5:8
    He seeks to trample and devour the “kings of the earth”, (Rev 1:5; 16:14; 20:7-9) and although the anointed believe Satan is in the wicked world outside of the organization, outside of their “spiritual paradise” and “peace and security” (1 Thess 5:3),  Proverbs gives us a better perspective.
    The lazy person claims, “There is a lion in the road!
        There’s a lion in the streets!”
    14 The door turns on its hinges—
        as does the lazy person on his bed.    Prov 26:13,14
     
    Anointed "Priests" and prophets must warn people according to God's truth...for their protection, awareness, and vigilance to present danger (Jer 28:8; Ezek 3:4,18; Mal 2:7; Dan 12:3,10; Matt 24:45).

    The war is not over yet! (Rev 12:17; Eph 6:12; 2 Cor 2:9; 11:3; 10:4-6; Matt 24:13,11,10; 10:22; Luke 13:24) 
    Any "walls" erected by men, to keep Satan out are an illusion...as long as he still dominates the world (1 John 5:19; Eph 5:15,16). Our only true protection is the meaning of YHWH's name (Prov 18:10) which is that HE is our only saviour (Isa 43:11; 2:22; Rev 14:7; Ps 146:3; 118:8).
     We must have faith and trust in HIM and the truth of His Word, (not the doctrines of a human organization -Jer 17:5; 1 John 4:1; Mark 7:7,8), in order to possess a realistic spiritual shield (Eph 6:13,16).
    The anointed are not protected from Satan's machinations by means of a membership in an organization, nor by obedience to it. (Rev 12:17; Luke 22:31; Rom 6:16; 1 Cor 7:23)
    Pearl Doxsey
    What's Wrong with "Peace and Security"?
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in "THEY WORSHIP ME IN VAIN, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN"   
    Quote from the 2016/1/24 Wt. magazine, pp. 22-27:
    “In addition, anointed Christians do not view themselves as being part of an elite club. They do not seek out others who claim to have the same calling, hoping to bond with them or endeavoring to form private groups for Bible study. (Gal 1:15-17) Such efforts would cause divisions within the congregation and work against the holy spirit, which promotes peace and unity.”  Wt 16/1/24, pp. 22-27
    The above is a sarcastic example of spiritual, emotional and mental abuse used to devour the anointed in the organization. (Ps 73:8; Ezek 36:6,7; Isa 3:12-15;  Zeph 2:8; Dan 11:31,36; Rev 9:1-4; 13:5-7)
    Their use of Gal 1:15-17, is quite hypocritical, since it is required that the “preaching work” by JWs follow the strict mandate of the governing body and their army of elders, who “bond” together, and who consult with one another, several times weekly. (Rev 2:20; 13:11,12,16,17)  These scriptures actually help prove that there was not an organization with a governing body in the first century, that Paul felt he had to answer to. 
    Paul; a prophet, a teacher, a leader, a priest. was sent by Christ to instruct those called as priests out of the Jewish and Gentiles nations, of their spiritual obligation to one another in the house of God. (Acts 9:15; Rom 15:14-19; Eph 3:6,8)  He, with Jesus Christ and all of the apostles, laid the foundation of truth – a foundation built with faithful “living stones” of God’s anointed priesthood.   (1 Pet 2:4-10; 1 Cor 3:10; Eph 2:20-22)
     
     Ephesians chapter 4:
    “Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
    12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.
    14 Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming. 15 Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ. 16 From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.
    1 Corinthians chapter 12:
    “Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 
     Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. 14 Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many.
    The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” And the head cannot say to the feet, “I don’t need you!” 22 On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, 24 while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25 so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. 26 If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.
    Incredibly, God’s word completely contradicts the words of the magazine.  What hold more weight in the mind of a JW, the doctrine of men who cannot tolerate any threat to their rule, or the words of God?
    “Anyone who does not remain in Christ’s teaching but goes beyond it does not have God. The one who remains in that teaching, this one has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your home, and do not greet him; 11 for the one who greets him shares in his evil works.”  1 John 2:9-11
    We are in the middle of a war of words, spoken by the sons of the kingdom, and sons of the wicked one. (Joel 3:14; Mal 3:18; Matt 13:38-43)  Lies promoted by false teachers/prophets harbor the demonic intent to “deceive the elect”. (Matt 24:24,25; Col 2:8; 1 Tim 4:1; Rev 9:13:10, 5-7)   
    This war against the “saints” is “inhouse”, not on the political battlefield of the world. (Luke 17:20) It is where a great army of “Gentile” elders have overcome a spiritual people – God’s priests of “Israel” -  with a “flood” of lies.  (Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:1-4; Rev 11:1,2;1 Cor 3:16;17; Rev 12:15; 16:13-16)
     How many times as a JW did we hear…
    “Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.”  1 Pet 5:8
    He seeks to trample and devour the “kings of the earth”, (Rev 1:5; 16:14; 20:7-9) and although the anointed believe Satan is in the wicked world outside of the organization, outside of their “spiritual paradise” and “peace and security” (1 Thess 5:3),  Proverbs gives us a better perspective.
    The lazy person claims, “There is a lion in the road!
        There’s a lion in the streets!”
    14 The door turns on its hinges—
        as does the lazy person on his bed.    Prov 26:13,14
     
    Anointed "Priests" and prophets must warn people according to God's truth...for their protection, awareness, and vigilance to present danger (Jer 28:8; Ezek 3:4,18; Mal 2:7; Dan 12:3,10; Matt 24:45).

    The war is not over yet! (Rev 12:17; Eph 6:12; 2 Cor 2:9; 11:3; 10:4-6; Matt 24:13,11,10; 10:22; Luke 13:24) 
    Any "walls" erected by men, to keep Satan out are an illusion...as long as he still dominates the world (1 John 5:19; Eph 5:15,16). Our only true protection is the meaning of YHWH's name (Prov 18:10) which is that HE is our only saviour (Isa 43:11; 2:22; Rev 14:7; Ps 146:3; 118:8).
     We must have faith and trust in HIM and the truth of His Word, (not the doctrines of a human organization -Jer 17:5; 1 John 4:1; Mark 7:7,8), in order to possess a realistic spiritual shield (Eph 6:13,16).
    The anointed are not protected from Satan's machinations by means of a membership in an organization, nor by obedience to it. (Rev 12:17; Luke 22:31; Rom 6:16; 1 Cor 7:23)
    Pearl Doxsey
    What's Wrong with "Peace and Security"?
     
     
  15. Upvote
    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in "THEY WORSHIP ME IN VAIN, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN"   
    Quote from the 2016/1/24 Wt. magazine, pp. 22-27:
    “In addition, anointed Christians do not view themselves as being part of an elite club. They do not seek out others who claim to have the same calling, hoping to bond with them or endeavoring to form private groups for Bible study. (Gal 1:15-17) Such efforts would cause divisions within the congregation and work against the holy spirit, which promotes peace and unity.”  Wt 16/1/24, pp. 22-27
    The above is a sarcastic example of spiritual, emotional and mental abuse used to devour the anointed in the organization. (Ps 73:8; Ezek 36:6,7; Isa 3:12-15;  Zeph 2:8; Dan 11:31,36; Rev 9:1-4; 13:5-7)
    Their use of Gal 1:15-17, is quite hypocritical, since it is required that the “preaching work” by JWs follow the strict mandate of the governing body and their army of elders, who “bond” together, and who consult with one another, several times weekly. (Rev 2:20; 13:11,12,16,17)  These scriptures actually help prove that there was not an organization with a governing body in the first century, that Paul felt he had to answer to. 
    Paul; a prophet, a teacher, a leader, a priest. was sent by Christ to instruct those called as priests out of the Jewish and Gentiles nations, of their spiritual obligation to one another in the house of God. (Acts 9:15; Rom 15:14-19; Eph 3:6,8)  He, with Jesus Christ and all of the apostles, laid the foundation of truth – a foundation built with faithful “living stones” of God’s anointed priesthood.   (1 Pet 2:4-10; 1 Cor 3:10; Eph 2:20-22)
     
     Ephesians chapter 4:
    “Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
    12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.
    14 Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming. 15 Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ. 16 From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.
    1 Corinthians chapter 12:
    “Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 
     Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. 14 Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many.
    The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” And the head cannot say to the feet, “I don’t need you!” 22 On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, 24 while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25 so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. 26 If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.
    Incredibly, God’s word completely contradicts the words of the magazine.  What hold more weight in the mind of a JW, the doctrine of men who cannot tolerate any threat to their rule, or the words of God?
    “Anyone who does not remain in Christ’s teaching but goes beyond it does not have God. The one who remains in that teaching, this one has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your home, and do not greet him; 11 for the one who greets him shares in his evil works.”  1 John 2:9-11
    We are in the middle of a war of words, spoken by the sons of the kingdom, and sons of the wicked one. (Joel 3:14; Mal 3:18; Matt 13:38-43)  Lies promoted by false teachers/prophets harbor the demonic intent to “deceive the elect”. (Matt 24:24,25; Col 2:8; 1 Tim 4:1; Rev 9:13:10, 5-7)   
    This war against the “saints” is “inhouse”, not on the political battlefield of the world. (Luke 17:20) It is where a great army of “Gentile” elders have overcome a spiritual people – God’s priests of “Israel” -  with a “flood” of lies.  (Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:1-4; Rev 11:1,2;1 Cor 3:16;17; Rev 12:15; 16:13-16)
     How many times as a JW did we hear…
    “Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.”  1 Pet 5:8
    He seeks to trample and devour the “kings of the earth”, (Rev 1:5; 16:14; 20:7-9) and although the anointed believe Satan is in the wicked world outside of the organization, outside of their “spiritual paradise” and “peace and security” (1 Thess 5:3),  Proverbs gives us a better perspective.
    The lazy person claims, “There is a lion in the road!
        There’s a lion in the streets!”
    14 The door turns on its hinges—
        as does the lazy person on his bed.    Prov 26:13,14
     
    Anointed "Priests" and prophets must warn people according to God's truth...for their protection, awareness, and vigilance to present danger (Jer 28:8; Ezek 3:4,18; Mal 2:7; Dan 12:3,10; Matt 24:45).

    The war is not over yet! (Rev 12:17; Eph 6:12; 2 Cor 2:9; 11:3; 10:4-6; Matt 24:13,11,10; 10:22; Luke 13:24) 
    Any "walls" erected by men, to keep Satan out are an illusion...as long as he still dominates the world (1 John 5:19; Eph 5:15,16). Our only true protection is the meaning of YHWH's name (Prov 18:10) which is that HE is our only saviour (Isa 43:11; 2:22; Rev 14:7; Ps 146:3; 118:8).
     We must have faith and trust in HIM and the truth of His Word, (not the doctrines of a human organization -Jer 17:5; 1 John 4:1; Mark 7:7,8), in order to possess a realistic spiritual shield (Eph 6:13,16).
    The anointed are not protected from Satan's machinations by means of a membership in an organization, nor by obedience to it. (Rev 12:17; Luke 22:31; Rom 6:16; 1 Cor 7:23)
    Pearl Doxsey
    What's Wrong with "Peace and Security"?
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in JW{.}ORG Is No Longer a Publishing Company. ( I never thought I'd see the day. ) Is this really so?..   
    "Theocratic organization" - a "publishing company"
    "Theocratic Studios" - a  "multimedia...broadcasting center"
    Never mind, they are still peddling the "word of God". 
    "You see, we are not like the many hucksters who preach for personal profit. We preach the word of God with sincerity and with Christ’s authority, knowing that God is watching us."  2 Cor 2:17
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in JW{.}ORG Is No Longer a Publishing Company. ( I never thought I'd see the day. ) Is this really so?..   
    What an admittance.  Did she follow that up with any news of what "they" are today?  
  18. Like
    Witness reacted to ApostaBabe Linda James in JW{.}ORG Is No Longer a Publishing Company. ( I never thought I'd see the day. ) Is this really so?..   
    Yeah, that's pretty much about how I view them too, or "Peddling Paradise."
    I find it interesting, most of the time when I see them use this word, "Word," ( whether it be in their New World Translation or in their Publications, ) they will have it capitalized. I've often wondered what the distinction of capitalizing it means to them?
    "Knowing that God is watching us." 
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
    I'm sorry, not sorry. I doubt that they have ever cared about that.
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Bearing Witness to Almighty God, Jesus Christ, and God's Kingdom.   
    Well, God wouldn't be interested in say, a Buddhist Temple, since His people are not involved with one.  But, I do admit that He is very interested in a counterfeit temple found in the same realm where His people are.  And this one, will face destruction because His people are idolizing it - "Jehovah's earthly organization", "Zion".  
    Rev 13:1-4
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Bearing Witness to Almighty God, Jesus Christ, and God's Kingdom.   
    Isn't it amazing that they have to say that the man of lawlessness "sits" in a counterfeit temple, and is Christendom.  Do JWs check God's word to verify this?  NO! They keep gulping down the lie. THEY DON'T CARE.  How can "God's Temple", or "the temple of God" as 2 Thess 2:4 calls it, be defined as a counterfeit temple?  What does God think about that?   And what about Rev. 11:1,2?
    "Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. [a]And the angel stood, saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months".
    These scripture reiterate that...
    #1 - the "man of lawlessness" made up of "Gentiles",  "sits" in God's Temple
    #2 - the "Gentile" times are NOT over
    #3 - the Temple of God are the anointed priests and dwelling of His Holy Spirit. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)
    #4 - The only people or nation that can "sit" in the Temple of God, which the anointed priests are members of, are those who replaced them as priests, and those who can rule over them.  The elder body. 
    Thus,
    #5 - The elder body is the "man of lawlessness", "standing where it should not"  (Mark 13:14) If the "abomination that causes desolation", which is the "man of lawlessness", was standing/sitting in a counterfeit temple, would it matter where it was found? God wouldn't be interested in a counterfeit temple. What does that have to do with His people?   His focus is on His own dwelling in spirit, in the hearts of the anointed.  (2 Cor 6:16)
    #6 -  The position of the elders as representing the priesthood "cannot be challenged".  Such an arrogant, high-sounding statement, isn't it!
    “His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation. 32 With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him.
    “The king will do as he pleases. He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard-of things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been determined must take place. "  Dan 11:31,32,36
    "He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God."  2 Thess 2:4
     The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6 It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7 It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation.  Rev 13:5-7
     
    Elders, you need to get of there. You, and all JWs need to FLEE.  Matt 24:15,16.   I fear the day when blind JWs will have their eyes finally opened to the identity of the man of lawlessness.  
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in JW{.}ORG Is No Longer a Publishing Company. ( I never thought I'd see the day. ) Is this really so?..   
    "Theocratic organization" - a "publishing company"
    "Theocratic Studios" - a  "multimedia...broadcasting center"
    Never mind, they are still peddling the "word of God". 
    "You see, we are not like the many hucksters who preach for personal profit. We preach the word of God with sincerity and with Christ’s authority, knowing that God is watching us."  2 Cor 2:17
     
  22. Like
    Witness reacted to ApostaBabe Linda James in JW{.}ORG Is No Longer a Publishing Company. ( I never thought I'd see the day. ) Is this really so?..   
    Well, kind of. 🥺 I replied to her by saying, "so the Organization is a multimedia..." and before I could say anything else, ( pluss I've been trained to stop talking out of respect and/or reverence when other people begin to speak. ) she spoke out the word, "yes," quite emphatically.
    So what exactly comes after or before the word multimedia, I'm really not sure.
    If anything, knowing that they will more than likely not be leaving the name as simply the word "multimedia," I'm just going to guess here, but I would imagine that they would be adding to that by giving it some kind of, Theocratic Studios something or another kind of name.
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    Witness reacted to Kick_Faceinator in Bearing Witness to Almighty God, Jesus Christ, and God's Kingdom.   
    Their mountain will be leveled
    “What are you, mighty mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of ‘God bless it! God bless it!’” Zech 4:7
    “Every valley shall be lifted up, and every mountain and hill be made low; the uneven ground shall become level, and the rough places a plain.” Isa 40:4
    that they took refuge in
    “Then they will begin to say to the mountains, ‘Fall on us,’ and to the hills, ‘Cover us.’” Luke 23:30
    which cannot save them
    “Let’s see if your idols can save you when you cry to them for help. Why, a puff of wind can knock them down! If you just breathe on them, they fall over! But whoever trusts in me will inherit the land and possess my holy mountain.” Isa 57:13
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Bearing Witness to Almighty God, Jesus Christ, and God's Kingdom.   
    Isn't it amazing that they have to say that the man of lawlessness "sits" in a counterfeit temple, and is Christendom.  Do JWs check God's word to verify this?  NO! They keep gulping down the lie. THEY DON'T CARE.  How can "God's Temple", or "the temple of God" as 2 Thess 2:4 calls it, be defined as a counterfeit temple?  What does God think about that?   And what about Rev. 11:1,2?
    "Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. [a]And the angel stood, saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months".
    These scripture reiterate that...
    #1 - the "man of lawlessness" made up of "Gentiles",  "sits" in God's Temple
    #2 - the "Gentile" times are NOT over
    #3 - the Temple of God are the anointed priests and dwelling of His Holy Spirit. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)
    #4 - The only people or nation that can "sit" in the Temple of God, which the anointed priests are members of, are those who replaced them as priests, and those who can rule over them.  The elder body. 
    Thus,
    #5 - The elder body is the "man of lawlessness", "standing where it should not"  (Mark 13:14) If the "abomination that causes desolation", which is the "man of lawlessness", was standing/sitting in a counterfeit temple, would it matter where it was found? God wouldn't be interested in a counterfeit temple. What does that have to do with His people?   His focus is on His own dwelling in spirit, in the hearts of the anointed.  (2 Cor 6:16)
    #6 -  The position of the elders as representing the priesthood "cannot be challenged".  Such an arrogant, high-sounding statement, isn't it!
    “His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation. 32 With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him.
    “The king will do as he pleases. He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard-of things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been determined must take place. "  Dan 11:31,32,36
    "He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God."  2 Thess 2:4
     The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6 It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7 It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation.  Rev 13:5-7
     
    Elders, you need to get of there. You, and all JWs need to FLEE.  Matt 24:15,16.   I fear the day when blind JWs will have their eyes finally opened to the identity of the man of lawlessness.  
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Bearing Witness to Almighty God, Jesus Christ, and God's Kingdom.   
    Well, God wouldn't be interested in say, a Buddhist Temple, since His people are not involved with one.  But, I do admit that He is very interested in a counterfeit temple found in the same realm where His people are.  And this one, will face destruction because His people are idolizing it - "Jehovah's earthly organization", "Zion".  
    Rev 13:1-4
     
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