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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in Vaccine time   
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in Vaccine time   
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/xjc2gV4Ix2Ho/
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in REMOVAL / DESTRUCTION OF THE GOVERNING BODY   
    Yes, they are, by an anointing.  Titus 3:4-7; 2 Cor 1:21,22
    I truly am sorry, but if you check the earlier WT sources, you will find that the Body of Christ consists of the anointed ones, who ARE the many members under Christ, their Head.   Today, the fine line between anointed Body and those not anointed is becoming indistinguishable.  It is because, what once began as truth, has transformed into a lie. 
    Rev 16:13,14 - "And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, ("organization")  and out of the mouth of the false prophet. (GB leaders)   For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth (anointed ones; Rev 1:5; Rev 5:10) and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty."
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in REMOVAL / DESTRUCTION OF THE GOVERNING BODY   
    You bring out a couple of good points.  Yet, what does the phrase “Judicial Committee” mean to you, Derek?  It is judgment put upon a person by the elders, men who have the given authority (by the GB) to judge someone as spiritually alive or spiritually dead.  Matt 10:17; John 16:2; 7:1,2; Luke 6:37; James 4:12  Many times this judgment is made on the basis of doctrine that has been dropped or changed by the GB, and those judged refuse to absorb the lie. Or, it is based on the refusal to accept 1914, using scriptures verifying why one rejects it. Others, who read scripture realize there is no earthly organization that must obtain our allegiance, in order for us to receive life. Rev 13:4,12; John 14:6 (edit)  It is enforced because victims of abuse speak out when not receiving the attention and care needed, but are told to get along with their abuser who may reside in the same congregation.  If and when they speak out in pain and suffering against this injustice, THEY are judged as spiritually “dead”, and shunned. Rev 13:15 If these individuals who are disfellowshipped never returned to the organization, do you believe they will be saved in Armageddon?  If not, then you accept the unfair judgment of an organization of men, over that of Christ's law of love.   Rom 2:1-3; Gal 5:14
    These are the facts.  Christ has been given the authority to judge individuals based on his Word; even so, if the organization was truly operating under his guidance, the anointed ones – the true priesthood (1 Pet 2:5,9; Rev 5:9,10) – would be leading, teaching and “judging” in righteousness and love, since they would be listening to one Head directly, Jesus Christ; and not to a mediator, the governing body.  Mal 2:7; 1 Cor 6:2
    A true “faithful and discreet slave” would not shut the mouths of his brothers and sisters and expect undue allegiance only to their word; threatening them with disfellowshipping if they choose to listen to the gift of Spirit within their heart.  1 John 3:10-12; Matt 24:48-51; John 15:26
    I think John recognizes these things, and realizes that men who unofficially judge others with such serious matters, show the WT organization to be a cloaked tyranny.  They play with lives, and ruin them.  The Father and Christ see all. They hear all.  And they will act on the sins of God’s people.  Isa 42:14-17; Rev 18:4-8
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Vaccine time   
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in Vaccine time   
    Did someone say it is a personal choice to get the vaccine?  Not really; that is, if one wants to retain "privileges".  
    Can't open the file here.   This was a letter to "All Special Full-Time Servants at Bethel and in the Field" dated 8/6/2021
    After stating that the getting the vaccine is a personal choice, it ends by saying, "In view of the above, we have asked the Health Care Department (HCD) to contact you to learn your current vaccination status.  If for some medical reason you are unable to be vaccinated, please inform the HCD accordingly.  They may be able to provide assistance".
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Vaccine time   
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/xjc2gV4Ix2Ho/
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    Witness got a reaction from Joan Kennedy in Vaccine time   
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    Witness got a reaction from Joan Kennedy in Vaccine time   
    Did someone say it is a personal choice to get the vaccine?  Not really; that is, if one wants to retain "privileges".  
    Can't open the file here.   This was a letter to "All Special Full-Time Servants at Bethel and in the Field" dated 8/6/2021
    After stating that the getting the vaccine is a personal choice, it ends by saying, "In view of the above, we have asked the Health Care Department (HCD) to contact you to learn your current vaccination status.  If for some medical reason you are unable to be vaccinated, please inform the HCD accordingly.  They may be able to provide assistance".
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in SELF-APPOINTED PROGNOSTICATORS   
    "JEHOVAH GOD is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning—yes, their foolish, fleshly thinking!"w97 5/1 p. 8
    I found this wt. quote after answering a JW on reddit with this comment.  For any JW passing through here...
    Do you remember the cover of the 5/15/1984 Awake magazine? If not, you can look up its image on Google. Do you think that God knew that this was a lie before time showed that your leaders failed in their prediction? The world calls people that do this, false "prognosticators”. I think even your writers have used this term in references to false prophets.
    Yes, God was aware it would fail. In light of all the dates set by your organization for Armageddon, did God know each one would fail? Yes, of course. Did He say, “well even though these leaders have misled thousands with their promises that didn’t hold true, and even though they took their message of error to people’s homes world-wide, misleading them with a teaching that will certainly prove to be false, I will bless them with abundance of spiritual food!”
    Really? Show me where in the scriptures God approves of falsehoods – false teachings. These are only the blatant untruths, made by your leadership. The list is very long.
    God is looking for people to come out of your organization where darkness and rotten fruit is found. (Matt 7:15-20; John 3:19,20) He wouldn't demand that people remain where He knew Christ's teachings were abandoned for men's doctrine. You've got it all wrong, sir.
    “I will use my power against the prophets who see false visions and predict things that don’t come true. They will not help my people make decisions or be recorded in the records of the nation of Israel. They won’t even enter Israel. Then you will know that I am the Lord.” Ezek 13:9 (GW)
    Then the Lord told me, “These are the lies that the prophets are telling in my name: They claim that I sent them, commanded them, and spoke to them. They dreamed up the visions they tell you. Their predictions are worthless. They are the products of their own imagination.” Jer 14:14
    This is what the Lord of Armies says:
    “Don’t listen to what the prophets are saying to you.
    They fill you with false hope. (like the people had, on the cover of the Awake)
    They speak about visions that they dreamed up.
    These visions are not from the Lord.” Jer 23:16
    “A time will come when people will not listen to accurate teachings. Instead, they will follow their own desires and surround themselves with teachers who tell them what they want to hear. People will refuse to listen to the truth and turn to myths.” 1 Tim 4:3,4
     
    So tell me, where is it said that God has turned a blind eye to false, failed teachings by your GB, and expects you to do the same? (Rev 18:4-8)
     
     
     How to Identify True Prophets
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    Look, as I have said before numerous times,  you have a different view entirely than I do.  If you feel that I am in the wrong and you are in the right, so be it.  You will continue promoting your belief and I will continue concentrating on my belief.  I will continue to concentrate on getting the word out to “my people”, to leave the Wt. (Rev 18:4-8)  And, I don’t take back any of my words you posted here.
    But, there is one thing you stated.
    Firstly, you said, “No one in their right mind would attest to the idea Satan somehow saved God's people in the Hebrew Old Testament. That in of itself, is blasphemy.”
    And then you brought up an old comment of yours which for some reason has just suddenly disappeared!
    “1 Corinthians 10:7-10, this passage is about Apostle Paul’s focus on those of Israel who succumb to murmuring and putting God to the test, and the "Destroyer" here is regarding God’s messenger sent to destroy – that is, if you take into account the context of the references.”
    You are saying that God has his own personal messenger that destroys. Is this a righteous angel?  So, the God of life keeps at his side an angel specifically to destroy?
    1 Cor 10:6-10 -
    6 Now these things occurred as examples to keep us from setting our hearts on evil things as they did. 7 Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written: “The people sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in revelry.”[a] 8 We should not commit sexual immorality, as some of them did—and in one day twenty-three thousand of them died. 9 We should not test Christ,[b] as some of them did—and were killed by snakes. 10 And do not grumble, as some of them did—and were killed by the destroying angel.
    The destroying angel – “ Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.”
    “destroyer” - ὀλοθρευτής olothreutḗs, ol-oth-ryoo-tace'; from G3645; a ruiner, i.e. (specially), a venomous serpent:—destroyer.
    Ruiner
    venomous serpent
    Who is the serpent in the Bible?  You know. 
    Your statement that in this scripture, God has His own personal destroying messenger is the very thing that you blamed me for - “No one in their right mind would attest to the idea Satan somehow saved God's people in the Hebrew Old Testament. That in of itself, is blasphemy.”
    When God removes his protection, the god of this world steps in...to destroy.  1 John 5:19
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Vaccine time   
    Did someone say it is a personal choice to get the vaccine?  Not really; that is, if one wants to retain "privileges".  
    Can't open the file here.   This was a letter to "All Special Full-Time Servants at Bethel and in the Field" dated 8/6/2021
    After stating that the getting the vaccine is a personal choice, it ends by saying, "In view of the above, we have asked the Health Care Department (HCD) to contact you to learn your current vaccination status.  If for some medical reason you are unable to be vaccinated, please inform the HCD accordingly.  They may be able to provide assistance".
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    Look, as I have said before numerous times,  you have a different view entirely than I do.  If you feel that I am in the wrong and you are in the right, so be it.  You will continue promoting your belief and I will continue concentrating on my belief.  I will continue to concentrate on getting the word out to “my people”, to leave the Wt. (Rev 18:4-8)  And, I don’t take back any of my words you posted here.
    But, there is one thing you stated.
    Firstly, you said, “No one in their right mind would attest to the idea Satan somehow saved God's people in the Hebrew Old Testament. That in of itself, is blasphemy.”
    And then you brought up an old comment of yours which for some reason has just suddenly disappeared!
    “1 Corinthians 10:7-10, this passage is about Apostle Paul’s focus on those of Israel who succumb to murmuring and putting God to the test, and the "Destroyer" here is regarding God’s messenger sent to destroy – that is, if you take into account the context of the references.”
    You are saying that God has his own personal messenger that destroys. Is this a righteous angel?  So, the God of life keeps at his side an angel specifically to destroy?
    1 Cor 10:6-10 -
    6 Now these things occurred as examples to keep us from setting our hearts on evil things as they did. 7 Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written: “The people sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in revelry.”[a] 8 We should not commit sexual immorality, as some of them did—and in one day twenty-three thousand of them died. 9 We should not test Christ,[b] as some of them did—and were killed by snakes. 10 And do not grumble, as some of them did—and were killed by the destroying angel.
    The destroying angel – “ Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.”
    “destroyer” - ὀλοθρευτής olothreutḗs, ol-oth-ryoo-tace'; from G3645; a ruiner, i.e. (specially), a venomous serpent:—destroyer.
    Ruiner
    venomous serpent
    Who is the serpent in the Bible?  You know. 
    Your statement that in this scripture, God has His own personal destroying messenger is the very thing that you blamed me for - “No one in their right mind would attest to the idea Satan somehow saved God's people in the Hebrew Old Testament. That in of itself, is blasphemy.”
    When God removes his protection, the god of this world steps in...to destroy.  1 John 5:19
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in SELF-APPOINTED PROGNOSTICATORS   
    "JEHOVAH GOD is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning—yes, their foolish, fleshly thinking!"w97 5/1 p. 8
    I found this wt. quote after answering a JW on reddit with this comment.  For any JW passing through here...
    Do you remember the cover of the 5/15/1984 Awake magazine? If not, you can look up its image on Google. Do you think that God knew that this was a lie before time showed that your leaders failed in their prediction? The world calls people that do this, false "prognosticators”. I think even your writers have used this term in references to false prophets.
    Yes, God was aware it would fail. In light of all the dates set by your organization for Armageddon, did God know each one would fail? Yes, of course. Did He say, “well even though these leaders have misled thousands with their promises that didn’t hold true, and even though they took their message of error to people’s homes world-wide, misleading them with a teaching that will certainly prove to be false, I will bless them with abundance of spiritual food!”
    Really? Show me where in the scriptures God approves of falsehoods – false teachings. These are only the blatant untruths, made by your leadership. The list is very long.
    God is looking for people to come out of your organization where darkness and rotten fruit is found. (Matt 7:15-20; John 3:19,20) He wouldn't demand that people remain where He knew Christ's teachings were abandoned for men's doctrine. You've got it all wrong, sir.
    “I will use my power against the prophets who see false visions and predict things that don’t come true. They will not help my people make decisions or be recorded in the records of the nation of Israel. They won’t even enter Israel. Then you will know that I am the Lord.” Ezek 13:9 (GW)
    Then the Lord told me, “These are the lies that the prophets are telling in my name: They claim that I sent them, commanded them, and spoke to them. They dreamed up the visions they tell you. Their predictions are worthless. They are the products of their own imagination.” Jer 14:14
    This is what the Lord of Armies says:
    “Don’t listen to what the prophets are saying to you.
    They fill you with false hope. (like the people had, on the cover of the Awake)
    They speak about visions that they dreamed up.
    These visions are not from the Lord.” Jer 23:16
    “A time will come when people will not listen to accurate teachings. Instead, they will follow their own desires and surround themselves with teachers who tell them what they want to hear. People will refuse to listen to the truth and turn to myths.” 1 Tim 4:3,4
     
    So tell me, where is it said that God has turned a blind eye to false, failed teachings by your GB, and expects you to do the same? (Rev 18:4-8)
     
     
     How to Identify True Prophets
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in SELF-APPOINTED PROGNOSTICATORS   
    "JEHOVAH GOD is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning—yes, their foolish, fleshly thinking!"w97 5/1 p. 8
    I found this wt. quote after answering a JW on reddit with this comment.  For any JW passing through here...
    Do you remember the cover of the 5/15/1984 Awake magazine? If not, you can look up its image on Google. Do you think that God knew that this was a lie before time showed that your leaders failed in their prediction? The world calls people that do this, false "prognosticators”. I think even your writers have used this term in references to false prophets.
    Yes, God was aware it would fail. In light of all the dates set by your organization for Armageddon, did God know each one would fail? Yes, of course. Did He say, “well even though these leaders have misled thousands with their promises that didn’t hold true, and even though they took their message of error to people’s homes world-wide, misleading them with a teaching that will certainly prove to be false, I will bless them with abundance of spiritual food!”
    Really? Show me where in the scriptures God approves of falsehoods – false teachings. These are only the blatant untruths, made by your leadership. The list is very long.
    God is looking for people to come out of your organization where darkness and rotten fruit is found. (Matt 7:15-20; John 3:19,20) He wouldn't demand that people remain where He knew Christ's teachings were abandoned for men's doctrine. You've got it all wrong, sir.
    “I will use my power against the prophets who see false visions and predict things that don’t come true. They will not help my people make decisions or be recorded in the records of the nation of Israel. They won’t even enter Israel. Then you will know that I am the Lord.” Ezek 13:9 (GW)
    Then the Lord told me, “These are the lies that the prophets are telling in my name: They claim that I sent them, commanded them, and spoke to them. They dreamed up the visions they tell you. Their predictions are worthless. They are the products of their own imagination.” Jer 14:14
    This is what the Lord of Armies says:
    “Don’t listen to what the prophets are saying to you.
    They fill you with false hope. (like the people had, on the cover of the Awake)
    They speak about visions that they dreamed up.
    These visions are not from the Lord.” Jer 23:16
    “A time will come when people will not listen to accurate teachings. Instead, they will follow their own desires and surround themselves with teachers who tell them what they want to hear. People will refuse to listen to the truth and turn to myths.” 1 Tim 4:3,4
     
    So tell me, where is it said that God has turned a blind eye to false, failed teachings by your GB, and expects you to do the same? (Rev 18:4-8)
     
     
     How to Identify True Prophets
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in SELF-APPOINTED PROGNOSTICATORS   
    "JEHOVAH GOD is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning—yes, their foolish, fleshly thinking!"w97 5/1 p. 8
    I found this wt. quote after answering a JW on reddit with this comment.  For any JW passing through here...
    Do you remember the cover of the 5/15/1984 Awake magazine? If not, you can look up its image on Google. Do you think that God knew that this was a lie before time showed that your leaders failed in their prediction? The world calls people that do this, false "prognosticators”. I think even your writers have used this term in references to false prophets.
    Yes, God was aware it would fail. In light of all the dates set by your organization for Armageddon, did God know each one would fail? Yes, of course. Did He say, “well even though these leaders have misled thousands with their promises that didn’t hold true, and even though they took their message of error to people’s homes world-wide, misleading them with a teaching that will certainly prove to be false, I will bless them with abundance of spiritual food!”
    Really? Show me where in the scriptures God approves of falsehoods – false teachings. These are only the blatant untruths, made by your leadership. The list is very long.
    God is looking for people to come out of your organization where darkness and rotten fruit is found. (Matt 7:15-20; John 3:19,20) He wouldn't demand that people remain where He knew Christ's teachings were abandoned for men's doctrine. You've got it all wrong, sir.
    “I will use my power against the prophets who see false visions and predict things that don’t come true. They will not help my people make decisions or be recorded in the records of the nation of Israel. They won’t even enter Israel. Then you will know that I am the Lord.” Ezek 13:9 (GW)
    Then the Lord told me, “These are the lies that the prophets are telling in my name: They claim that I sent them, commanded them, and spoke to them. They dreamed up the visions they tell you. Their predictions are worthless. They are the products of their own imagination.” Jer 14:14
    This is what the Lord of Armies says:
    “Don’t listen to what the prophets are saying to you.
    They fill you with false hope. (like the people had, on the cover of the Awake)
    They speak about visions that they dreamed up.
    These visions are not from the Lord.” Jer 23:16
    “A time will come when people will not listen to accurate teachings. Instead, they will follow their own desires and surround themselves with teachers who tell them what they want to hear. People will refuse to listen to the truth and turn to myths.” 1 Tim 4:3,4
     
    So tell me, where is it said that God has turned a blind eye to false, failed teachings by your GB, and expects you to do the same? (Rev 18:4-8)
     
     
     How to Identify True Prophets
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from ApostaBabe Linda James in THE GOVERNING BODY'S "INSIGHT" COMPELS TRUST   
    This post is an extension of another comment just recently made here.  
    “I will give you insight and instruct you in the way you should go”  Ps 32:8a (NWT)
    This scripture was used by G. Losch, when speaking to JWs about having trust in the “faithful and discreet slave”. (Matt 24:45)  His talk began with these words:
    “1 Cor 13:7 says, that love ‘believes all things’.  Trusting others is an expression of love.  If you love somebody you only assume and think the best of him.”
    With that, he laid the groundwork to convince JWs that their love for the governing leadership, should motivate belief and trust in what they teach. (Prov 5:1-4; 21:6; 2 Tim 4:3,4)
    He pointed out that the leaders have complete trust in God who is guiding them with the Holy Spirit; and in return, God and Jesus trust them to provide “precious” spiritual food. (Prov 23:1-3; John 8:44)
    He stated that JWs can take confidence in the insight given to these men, and their understanding and guidance using God’s word. (Prov 28:26; Matt 7:15-20; 1 Cor 13:4)
    The point was made clear that these men will be “taken to heaven” before the organization’s version of Armageddon breaks out; and with confidence, Jesus will then entrust all his belongings to them. (Psalm 12:3;Isa 44:20; Matt 25:24-30)
    This talk was presented in 2015. In 2020, D. Splane carefully crafted a speech that absolved them from a long-held false teaching about the identity of the locusts in the book of Joel. (Joel 1:4)  Their past “understanding” (falsehood) was that God’s anointed were the locust army, causing devastation through their preaching work.  They were responsible for destruction on the “land,” which was said to signify the people under the rule of religious leaders. However, Joel 1:6,13 specifically points out that it is God’s “land” that is under attack – His people under covenant, who have transgressed his laws.  (Ezek 38:16; Joel 2:3; Rev 9:3,4; Rev 13:5-7; 20:7-9)
    Apparently, they deduced that this past teaching was not so insightful or precious anymore. (Prov 26:12)  The leaders had decided it was time to consider the prophesy “in its context”. (Prov 21:8)
    These men personally project their image as “faithful and discreet” (discreet meaning “wise, trusted, sensible”), and state they are approved by God before Jesus Christ returns.  (Matt 24:46,47; 25:21) (Ps 94:4; Isa 2:17,18; Matt 24:48-51)
    They say that this “faithful and discreet slave” has been gifted with insight from God, since 1919. (Prov 25:14; Jer 29:8,9; 7:8)
    Well, their historical record of consistent failed teachings does not look so insightful; and certainly not precious, since they purge their publications on a regular basis. (Eccl 12:12-14; Luke 16:2) It wasn’t God who was guiding and instructing them ‘in the way they should go’, when writing these now discarded books. It was their own boastful and fleshly motives that inspired their false teachings. (Rom 1:30-32; 2 Tim 3:1-5)  Jesus said that those who remain attached to him, to the “vine”, would produce teachings or “fruit” that would last. (John 15:4-6)
    I think many will agree that it would have been a wise and sensible move, to have read the entire book of Joel "in its context", before assuming that this army was God's holy people, and proceed to teach it wrongly…for years. (Prov 28:11)
    The locust-scorpions in Revelation are also wrongly taught as God’s anointed ones. Will this teaching change in time?  It’s hard to say. They’ve made a comparison, yet a flimsy one, to Joel’s locusts, saying that these plagues are “similar but different”.   You can see their chart here:
    https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/topic/87091-shedding-light-on-the-army-of-locusts/?tab=comments#comment-144049“
    Who are the Locusts” - https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2020/03/who-are-locusts.html
     
    Who then, comprise the army of locusts both in Joel and in Rev chapter 9 in our day?  Why do they come upon God’s people in the last days?  Well, consider the scenario just described. False teachers have captivated them with false promises and corrupt doctrine. (Mark 13:22; Acts 20:29,30; Titus 1:16)
    This was prophesied to occur in the last days – a powerful delusion used by Satan to “sift” the remnant of the holy ones, “as wheat”. (Jer 5:31; Matt 24:24,25; Luke 22:31; Luke 21:24; Rev 2:10;; 2 Thess 2:9-12; 1 Tim 4:1; Col 2:8; Rev 13:10,7; Mal 3:18; Matt 25:33; Rev 12:7 )
    He has ‘employed’ those who accept his gifts of power, authority and riches over the “kingdoms of the inhabited earth” to do his will; that is, to destroy the anointed under the “woman” new covenant, using deceit.  (Luke 4:5-8; Rev 16:13,14; 12:1,4,17)  (In Luke 4:5 , the meaning of “world”, is the "inhabited earth" - God’s land – Ps 132:7; Acts 7:49; 1 Cor 3:9,16; John 14:23)
    To do this, he formulated a lie that led them into idolatry to men and their organization; willingly trusting and believing the false prophet/”harlot’s” teachings. (2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 13:3,4,11,12) As God said, when His people fall into sin, He withdraws His protection.  It is always only a remnant that turns back to Him, seeking forgiveness and protection from the enemy. (Lev 26:1,3,4,9,14,17;40-42;Joel 2:12,13,17,18; Dan 12:1; Rom 9:27,28)
    The anointed “Jews” are under the rule of a “Gentile” army. (Ezek 44:6-9; Rev 11:1,2) “Army” is the descriptive term used by the organization itself, in reference to the expansive world-wide elder body.  This army has been given power to judge and spiritually “kill” any who transgress their decrees. (John 16:2; Rev 13:15) It has effectively trampled down a spiritual nation into silence. (Zeph 3:3,4; Ezek 38:14,15;Joel 2:4,5;Rev 9:7; Dan 11:15,31,36; Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4)
    Now we can see why such great tribulation comes upon God's people (who are not yet sealed). They face an alliance (Dan.2:40-43) that is stronger than any foe they have ever faced in all history 
    (Rev 12:17; 13:1,4,11,14,15; 11:7; 6:9,11) (Rev 16:13-16; 19:19-20).
    Jesus said that if our time of unsealed captivity and trampling under them (Col 2:8; 2 Cor 11:20; Rev 2:20; Micah 3:5; Rev 13:10,7; 11:2; 9:4,10)  were not cut short, none would be saved (Matt 24:22; 7:13,14; Luke 13:23,24; 18:26,27). 
    “The Greatest Tribulation – What and Why?” - https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-greatest-tribulation-why.html
    The opening scripture in Psalm 32:8 continues by saying, “I will give you advice with my eye upon you”.  God sends his prophets to warn His people of the devastating outcome when they have fallen into sin and idolatry. (Zeph 3:7,8; Amos 3:7) He has always advised them to leave the teachings of false prophets/spiritual harlots, and to turn to Him in repentance.   Today, is no different.  (Hos 8:1; Mal 3:1-4; 4:5,6; Matt 17:11; Rev 11:1-3; 22:6).
     
     
    “Armageddon, is it everything you thought it would be?”  - http://armageddon-obadiah.blogspot.com/
     
     
     

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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    Of course no one in their right mind would say that.  This statement shows what a liar you are. I never would say such a thing.  You can't be trusted, SM.  
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in The Time Left Is Reduced!   
    I don't know if he is a fake.  Most likely he was exuberant to hear A. Morris' talk about despicable apostates, and gladly watch  the burning match get snuffed out.  
    It's not too late for you to repent of your false prophesy.  Really, I wish you could just see how foolish you are by setting another date, that could very likely bring about your ruin. (Luke 12:40; Matt 24:42-44; Acts 1:6,7; Jer 23:16)
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    Today is a spiritual repeat of apostasy in Jesus' day.  The greatest threat to the Jewish leaders, was those in Christ who left to follow him - who had once been  "among them", among the Jewish system.   The GB mimic the leadership of the Pharisees, expecting full devotion, detailed service, and obedience above and beyond the Father and the Son.  If this wasn't true, there would be no disfellowshipping for rejecting THEM and THEIR doctrine.  
    And then again, "among" those who were anointed, false teachers arose.  Jesus tells us, they could very likely deceive the "elect", the saints.  (Matt 24:24; Acts 20:29)  
    “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
    Don't you take the message of your leaders to others?  Don't you bring this message?  I did not come to JWs, they came to me.  Upon hearing the message, my ears perked up to a few "grains" of truth, as Splane mentioned is the tool of apostates...and then the time came...
    "when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables."  2 Tim 4:3,4
    Fables, i.e. "beliefs clarified" (and how many teachings and false dates were not included in the list?)
    HUMAN TEACHINGS, EMPTY DECEPTION.  Col 2:8
    What characteristics designate a false teacher, Tom?  Check your beliefs clarified list and apply its evidence to prove your leadership cannot speak truth. And yet, JWs cling to their every word.  (1 Tim 4:1)  If that list was provided to the householder, (an insert flyer in a magazine perhaps?), I wonder how many people would become JWs.  The householder would say,  "Oh, by the way we have compiled our list of empty deception, and felt the need for you to look it over."
    Do you see?  What are you defending?  What spiritual substance is there from your organization, that lasts?  (John 15:16)  Just a few grains of truth?  Is that really all that Jesus promised us?  (John 7:38; 4:13,14; Rev 22:17)
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in The Time Left Is Reduced!   
    I don't know if he is a fake.  Most likely he was exuberant to hear A. Morris' talk about despicable apostates, and gladly watch  the burning match get snuffed out.  
    It's not too late for you to repent of your false prophesy.  Really, I wish you could just see how foolish you are by setting another date, that could very likely bring about your ruin. (Luke 12:40; Matt 24:42-44; Acts 1:6,7; Jer 23:16)
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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    Of course no one in their right mind would say that.  This statement shows what a liar you are. I never would say such a thing.  You can't be trusted, SM.  
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in The Time Left Is Reduced!   
    I don't know if he is a fake.  Most likely he was exuberant to hear A. Morris' talk about despicable apostates, and gladly watch  the burning match get snuffed out.  
    It's not too late for you to repent of your false prophesy.  Really, I wish you could just see how foolish you are by setting another date, that could very likely bring about your ruin. (Luke 12:40; Matt 24:42-44; Acts 1:6,7; Jer 23:16)
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in The Time Left Is Reduced!   
    Congratulations. Have a great day and many more. You are still young and hopefully have many years left to live.
    Rambo's problem is 1. he wants attention and 2. he loves to guess at dates. 
    I would suggest both are anti-Christian. Reminds me of the GB.  
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in The Time Left Is Reduced!   
    My remaining life time is shortened, too. Compared to the length of time I had 20, 30 or 40 years ago. I am 60 years old today. It is logical that, given the average life expectancy of a man, my time is reduced. So, it would be pointless to expect another 60 years of life. I can count on another 20,30 years of life, more or less. That would be the average life expectancy of today’s people in certain parts of the world.
    Has the time of the whole human race been shortened, reduced in the same way? There is no calculation, nor is there any experience to confirm this. Disasters exist, wars exist and they can shorten the lives of people and animals and plants. But even the Bible nowhere says that there is a deadline that determines how long the planet Earth will exist and the living world on it.
    So what kind of time reduction is about?
    People are constantly being born, so preaching should go on and on, constantly.
     
    The earth, the sea, the trees and the whole natural world have been under attack for some 150-200 years. Someone is hurting them. Who? Humanity. With its way of life of consumer society, industry, destruction of nature for profit.
    Your version suggests how, harm the earth or the sea or the trees, will began in 2033? Would that mean that so-called “climate change” hasn’t actually started and that people are worried for no reason?
    There is something wrong with your interpretation of the Bible.  
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