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    Witness got a reaction from ApostaBabe Linda James in THE GOVERNING BODY'S "INSIGHT" COMPELS TRUST   
    This post is an extension of another comment just recently made here.  
    “I will give you insight and instruct you in the way you should go”  Ps 32:8a (NWT)
    This scripture was used by G. Losch, when speaking to JWs about having trust in the “faithful and discreet slave”. (Matt 24:45)  His talk began with these words:
    “1 Cor 13:7 says, that love ‘believes all things’.  Trusting others is an expression of love.  If you love somebody you only assume and think the best of him.”
    With that, he laid the groundwork to convince JWs that their love for the governing leadership, should motivate belief and trust in what they teach. (Prov 5:1-4; 21:6; 2 Tim 4:3,4)
    He pointed out that the leaders have complete trust in God who is guiding them with the Holy Spirit; and in return, God and Jesus trust them to provide “precious” spiritual food. (Prov 23:1-3; John 8:44)
    He stated that JWs can take confidence in the insight given to these men, and their understanding and guidance using God’s word. (Prov 28:26; Matt 7:15-20; 1 Cor 13:4)
    The point was made clear that these men will be “taken to heaven” before the organization’s version of Armageddon breaks out; and with confidence, Jesus will then entrust all his belongings to them. (Psalm 12:3;Isa 44:20; Matt 25:24-30)
    This talk was presented in 2015. In 2020, D. Splane carefully crafted a speech that absolved them from a long-held false teaching about the identity of the locusts in the book of Joel. (Joel 1:4)  Their past “understanding” (falsehood) was that God’s anointed were the locust army, causing devastation through their preaching work.  They were responsible for destruction on the “land,” which was said to signify the people under the rule of religious leaders. However, Joel 1:6,13 specifically points out that it is God’s “land” that is under attack – His people under covenant, who have transgressed his laws.  (Ezek 38:16; Joel 2:3; Rev 9:3,4; Rev 13:5-7; 20:7-9)
    Apparently, they deduced that this past teaching was not so insightful or precious anymore. (Prov 26:12)  The leaders had decided it was time to consider the prophesy “in its context”. (Prov 21:8)
    These men personally project their image as “faithful and discreet” (discreet meaning “wise, trusted, sensible”), and state they are approved by God before Jesus Christ returns.  (Matt 24:46,47; 25:21) (Ps 94:4; Isa 2:17,18; Matt 24:48-51)
    They say that this “faithful and discreet slave” has been gifted with insight from God, since 1919. (Prov 25:14; Jer 29:8,9; 7:8)
    Well, their historical record of consistent failed teachings does not look so insightful; and certainly not precious, since they purge their publications on a regular basis. (Eccl 12:12-14; Luke 16:2) It wasn’t God who was guiding and instructing them ‘in the way they should go’, when writing these now discarded books. It was their own boastful and fleshly motives that inspired their false teachings. (Rom 1:30-32; 2 Tim 3:1-5)  Jesus said that those who remain attached to him, to the “vine”, would produce teachings or “fruit” that would last. (John 15:4-6)
    I think many will agree that it would have been a wise and sensible move, to have read the entire book of Joel "in its context", before assuming that this army was God's holy people, and proceed to teach it wrongly…for years. (Prov 28:11)
    The locust-scorpions in Revelation are also wrongly taught as God’s anointed ones. Will this teaching change in time?  It’s hard to say. They’ve made a comparison, yet a flimsy one, to Joel’s locusts, saying that these plagues are “similar but different”.   You can see their chart here:
    https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/topic/87091-shedding-light-on-the-army-of-locusts/?tab=comments#comment-144049“
    Who are the Locusts” - https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2020/03/who-are-locusts.html
     
    Who then, comprise the army of locusts both in Joel and in Rev chapter 9 in our day?  Why do they come upon God’s people in the last days?  Well, consider the scenario just described. False teachers have captivated them with false promises and corrupt doctrine. (Mark 13:22; Acts 20:29,30; Titus 1:16)
    This was prophesied to occur in the last days – a powerful delusion used by Satan to “sift” the remnant of the holy ones, “as wheat”. (Jer 5:31; Matt 24:24,25; Luke 22:31; Luke 21:24; Rev 2:10;; 2 Thess 2:9-12; 1 Tim 4:1; Col 2:8; Rev 13:10,7; Mal 3:18; Matt 25:33; Rev 12:7 )
    He has ‘employed’ those who accept his gifts of power, authority and riches over the “kingdoms of the inhabited earth” to do his will; that is, to destroy the anointed under the “woman” new covenant, using deceit.  (Luke 4:5-8; Rev 16:13,14; 12:1,4,17)  (In Luke 4:5 , the meaning of “world”, is the "inhabited earth" - God’s land – Ps 132:7; Acts 7:49; 1 Cor 3:9,16; John 14:23)
    To do this, he formulated a lie that led them into idolatry to men and their organization; willingly trusting and believing the false prophet/”harlot’s” teachings. (2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 13:3,4,11,12) As God said, when His people fall into sin, He withdraws His protection.  It is always only a remnant that turns back to Him, seeking forgiveness and protection from the enemy. (Lev 26:1,3,4,9,14,17;40-42;Joel 2:12,13,17,18; Dan 12:1; Rom 9:27,28)
    The anointed “Jews” are under the rule of a “Gentile” army. (Ezek 44:6-9; Rev 11:1,2) “Army” is the descriptive term used by the organization itself, in reference to the expansive world-wide elder body.  This army has been given power to judge and spiritually “kill” any who transgress their decrees. (John 16:2; Rev 13:15) It has effectively trampled down a spiritual nation into silence. (Zeph 3:3,4; Ezek 38:14,15;Joel 2:4,5;Rev 9:7; Dan 11:15,31,36; Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4)
    Now we can see why such great tribulation comes upon God's people (who are not yet sealed). They face an alliance (Dan.2:40-43) that is stronger than any foe they have ever faced in all history 
    (Rev 12:17; 13:1,4,11,14,15; 11:7; 6:9,11) (Rev 16:13-16; 19:19-20).
    Jesus said that if our time of unsealed captivity and trampling under them (Col 2:8; 2 Cor 11:20; Rev 2:20; Micah 3:5; Rev 13:10,7; 11:2; 9:4,10)  were not cut short, none would be saved (Matt 24:22; 7:13,14; Luke 13:23,24; 18:26,27). 
    “The Greatest Tribulation – What and Why?” - https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-greatest-tribulation-why.html
    The opening scripture in Psalm 32:8 continues by saying, “I will give you advice with my eye upon you”.  God sends his prophets to warn His people of the devastating outcome when they have fallen into sin and idolatry. (Zeph 3:7,8; Amos 3:7) He has always advised them to leave the teachings of false prophets/spiritual harlots, and to turn to Him in repentance.   Today, is no different.  (Hos 8:1; Mal 3:1-4; 4:5,6; Matt 17:11; Rev 11:1-3; 22:6).
     
     
    “Armageddon, is it everything you thought it would be?”  - http://armageddon-obadiah.blogspot.com/
     
     
     

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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in The Time Left Is Reduced!   
    Please notice:
    “They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads.”  Rev 9:4
    This scripture is speaking of the anointed as well, under attack by a great locust-scorpion army. (Rev 9:5,6) Yet, your leaders have taken it out of context by saying the anointed are this locust army. Who would they be persecuting?  In Rev 13:5-7, it is the Beast that persecutes the saints.  The Beast is an "organized" army that "stands in the holy place" - an abomination against the Temple of God, and that temple as you know, are the anointed ones.  (Matt 24:15,16; Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 9:3,7-11; 11:1,2; Rev 13:18)
     When the final faithful anointed remnant are sealed, “harm” comes to the “earth, sea, trees”. This is concerning the great tribulation to come upon God’s “saints” and those with them.  (Rev 24:9-13,22-25)
    Look to the one who deceives you, about the identity of the locust-scorpions.  You will then find where the "man of lawlessness" resides.  
    Joel 1:
    A nation has invaded my land,  (1 Cor 3:9; Eph 2:20-22)
        a mighty army without number;
    it has the teeth of a lion, (Dan 7:7; Rev 13:2)
        the fangs of a lioness.
    7 It has laid waste my vines
        and ruined my fig trees.
    It has stripped off their bark
        and thrown it away,
        leaving their branches white.
    Put on sackcloth, you priests, and mourn;
        wail, you who minister before the altar.
    Come, spend the night in sackcloth,
        you who minister before my God;
    for the grain offerings and drink offerings
        are withheld from the house of your God.  (Dan 8:11,12; Rev 13:15-17,)
     
    Who are the Locusts?
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    Did I say that God allow Satan to HELP him?  No.
    God doesn't need anyone's help, but He allows Satan to step in when His laws are rejected after He has warned His people of what could befall them.  
    2 Thess 2: “The coming of the lawless one is apparent in the working of Satan, who uses all power, signs, lying wonders, 10 and every kind of wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.”  9,10
    2 Thess 2:  For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion, leading them to believe what is false, 12 so that all who have not believed the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness will be condemned.”
    The presence of the “man of lawlessness” is apparent in the working of Satan.  Those under Satan’s deluding influence of this “man”,  are perishing – dying – will reach death.  And in this case it is his plan for them to die.  (Rev 20:7-10)
    God “sends”  -  He allows this delusion – the working of Satan, because they refuse to love the truth.
    If the warning God provides to those under this delusion is rejected, then Satan will bring death upon them – because he is the Angel of Death that God “sends”.  (Rev 18:4-8)
    Satan destroys, death is destruction of life.
    "You are of your father the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he speaks from his own nature, because he is a liar and the father of lies.”  John 8:44
    Satan is a murderer.  He is the Angel of Death.  It’s pretty simple. 
    You cannot understand the spiritual fulfillment in the last days.  To you, it is all physical.  The anointed priesthood is the spiritual Body of Christ/church.  (1 Cor 12; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22; Rev 21:1-4;22:17)  This is God's order, His structure.  You believe in organized religion.  I don’t, not according to the way of man. (John 4:21-24) I believe that through God’s “organized” anointed priesthood, the law of God’s truth in Christ and His Bride (male or female), will be present on the earth in the Kingdom.  (Mal 2:7; Rev 5:9,10)
    We've been through this before.  I'm finished!
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in The Time Left Is Reduced!   
    Please notice:
    “They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads.”  Rev 9:4
    This scripture is speaking of the anointed as well, under attack by a great locust-scorpion army. (Rev 9:5,6) Yet, your leaders have taken it out of context by saying the anointed are this locust army. Who would they be persecuting?  In Rev 13:5-7, it is the Beast that persecutes the saints.  The Beast is an "organized" army that "stands in the holy place" - an abomination against the Temple of God, and that temple as you know, are the anointed ones.  (Matt 24:15,16; Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 9:3,7-11; 11:1,2; Rev 13:18)
     When the final faithful anointed remnant are sealed, “harm” comes to the “earth, sea, trees”. This is concerning the great tribulation to come upon God’s “saints” and those with them.  (Rev 24:9-13,22-25)
    Look to the one who deceives you, about the identity of the locust-scorpions.  You will then find where the "man of lawlessness" resides.  
    Joel 1:
    A nation has invaded my land,  (1 Cor 3:9; Eph 2:20-22)
        a mighty army without number;
    it has the teeth of a lion, (Dan 7:7; Rev 13:2)
        the fangs of a lioness.
    7 It has laid waste my vines
        and ruined my fig trees.
    It has stripped off their bark
        and thrown it away,
        leaving their branches white.
    Put on sackcloth, you priests, and mourn;
        wail, you who minister before the altar.
    Come, spend the night in sackcloth,
        you who minister before my God;
    for the grain offerings and drink offerings
        are withheld from the house of your God.  (Dan 8:11,12; Rev 13:15-17,)
     
    Who are the Locusts?
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in It's interesting how when we read scriptures which give analogies of the delta between us and Jehovah   
    Oh, the depth of the riches
    and the wisdom and the knowledge of God!
    How unsearchable his judgments
    and untraceable his ways!  Rom 11:33
    Many are the plans in the mind of a man, but it is the purpose of the Lord that will stand.  Prov 19:21
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    Did I say that God allow Satan to HELP him?  No.
    God doesn't need anyone's help, but He allows Satan to step in when His laws are rejected after He has warned His people of what could befall them.  
    2 Thess 2: “The coming of the lawless one is apparent in the working of Satan, who uses all power, signs, lying wonders, 10 and every kind of wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.”  9,10
    2 Thess 2:  For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion, leading them to believe what is false, 12 so that all who have not believed the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness will be condemned.”
    The presence of the “man of lawlessness” is apparent in the working of Satan.  Those under Satan’s deluding influence of this “man”,  are perishing – dying – will reach death.  And in this case it is his plan for them to die.  (Rev 20:7-10)
    God “sends”  -  He allows this delusion – the working of Satan, because they refuse to love the truth.
    If the warning God provides to those under this delusion is rejected, then Satan will bring death upon them – because he is the Angel of Death that God “sends”.  (Rev 18:4-8)
    Satan destroys, death is destruction of life.
    "You are of your father the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he speaks from his own nature, because he is a liar and the father of lies.”  John 8:44
    Satan is a murderer.  He is the Angel of Death.  It’s pretty simple. 
    You cannot understand the spiritual fulfillment in the last days.  To you, it is all physical.  The anointed priesthood is the spiritual Body of Christ/church.  (1 Cor 12; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22; Rev 21:1-4;22:17)  This is God's order, His structure.  You believe in organized religion.  I don’t, not according to the way of man. (John 4:21-24) I believe that through God’s “organized” anointed priesthood, the law of God’s truth in Christ and His Bride (male or female), will be present on the earth in the Kingdom.  (Mal 2:7; Rev 5:9,10)
    We've been through this before.  I'm finished!
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in THE GOVERNING BODY'S "INSIGHT" COMPELS TRUST   
    This post is an extension of another comment just recently made here.  
    “I will give you insight and instruct you in the way you should go”  Ps 32:8a (NWT)
    This scripture was used by G. Losch, when speaking to JWs about having trust in the “faithful and discreet slave”. (Matt 24:45)  His talk began with these words:
    “1 Cor 13:7 says, that love ‘believes all things’.  Trusting others is an expression of love.  If you love somebody you only assume and think the best of him.”
    With that, he laid the groundwork to convince JWs that their love for the governing leadership, should motivate belief and trust in what they teach. (Prov 5:1-4; 21:6; 2 Tim 4:3,4)
    He pointed out that the leaders have complete trust in God who is guiding them with the Holy Spirit; and in return, God and Jesus trust them to provide “precious” spiritual food. (Prov 23:1-3; John 8:44)
    He stated that JWs can take confidence in the insight given to these men, and their understanding and guidance using God’s word. (Prov 28:26; Matt 7:15-20; 1 Cor 13:4)
    The point was made clear that these men will be “taken to heaven” before the organization’s version of Armageddon breaks out; and with confidence, Jesus will then entrust all his belongings to them. (Psalm 12:3;Isa 44:20; Matt 25:24-30)
    This talk was presented in 2015. In 2020, D. Splane carefully crafted a speech that absolved them from a long-held false teaching about the identity of the locusts in the book of Joel. (Joel 1:4)  Their past “understanding” (falsehood) was that God’s anointed were the locust army, causing devastation through their preaching work.  They were responsible for destruction on the “land,” which was said to signify the people under the rule of religious leaders. However, Joel 1:6,13 specifically points out that it is God’s “land” that is under attack – His people under covenant, who have transgressed his laws.  (Ezek 38:16; Joel 2:3; Rev 9:3,4; Rev 13:5-7; 20:7-9)
    Apparently, they deduced that this past teaching was not so insightful or precious anymore. (Prov 26:12)  The leaders had decided it was time to consider the prophesy “in its context”. (Prov 21:8)
    These men personally project their image as “faithful and discreet” (discreet meaning “wise, trusted, sensible”), and state they are approved by God before Jesus Christ returns.  (Matt 24:46,47; 25:21) (Ps 94:4; Isa 2:17,18; Matt 24:48-51)
    They say that this “faithful and discreet slave” has been gifted with insight from God, since 1919. (Prov 25:14; Jer 29:8,9; 7:8)
    Well, their historical record of consistent failed teachings does not look so insightful; and certainly not precious, since they purge their publications on a regular basis. (Eccl 12:12-14; Luke 16:2) It wasn’t God who was guiding and instructing them ‘in the way they should go’, when writing these now discarded books. It was their own boastful and fleshly motives that inspired their false teachings. (Rom 1:30-32; 2 Tim 3:1-5)  Jesus said that those who remain attached to him, to the “vine”, would produce teachings or “fruit” that would last. (John 15:4-6)
    I think many will agree that it would have been a wise and sensible move, to have read the entire book of Joel "in its context", before assuming that this army was God's holy people, and proceed to teach it wrongly…for years. (Prov 28:11)
    The locust-scorpions in Revelation are also wrongly taught as God’s anointed ones. Will this teaching change in time?  It’s hard to say. They’ve made a comparison, yet a flimsy one, to Joel’s locusts, saying that these plagues are “similar but different”.   You can see their chart here:
    https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/topic/87091-shedding-light-on-the-army-of-locusts/?tab=comments#comment-144049“
    Who are the Locusts” - https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2020/03/who-are-locusts.html
     
    Who then, comprise the army of locusts both in Joel and in Rev chapter 9 in our day?  Why do they come upon God’s people in the last days?  Well, consider the scenario just described. False teachers have captivated them with false promises and corrupt doctrine. (Mark 13:22; Acts 20:29,30; Titus 1:16)
    This was prophesied to occur in the last days – a powerful delusion used by Satan to “sift” the remnant of the holy ones, “as wheat”. (Jer 5:31; Matt 24:24,25; Luke 22:31; Luke 21:24; Rev 2:10;; 2 Thess 2:9-12; 1 Tim 4:1; Col 2:8; Rev 13:10,7; Mal 3:18; Matt 25:33; Rev 12:7 )
    He has ‘employed’ those who accept his gifts of power, authority and riches over the “kingdoms of the inhabited earth” to do his will; that is, to destroy the anointed under the “woman” new covenant, using deceit.  (Luke 4:5-8; Rev 16:13,14; 12:1,4,17)  (In Luke 4:5 , the meaning of “world”, is the "inhabited earth" - God’s land – Ps 132:7; Acts 7:49; 1 Cor 3:9,16; John 14:23)
    To do this, he formulated a lie that led them into idolatry to men and their organization; willingly trusting and believing the false prophet/”harlot’s” teachings. (2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 13:3,4,11,12) As God said, when His people fall into sin, He withdraws His protection.  It is always only a remnant that turns back to Him, seeking forgiveness and protection from the enemy. (Lev 26:1,3,4,9,14,17;40-42;Joel 2:12,13,17,18; Dan 12:1; Rom 9:27,28)
    The anointed “Jews” are under the rule of a “Gentile” army. (Ezek 44:6-9; Rev 11:1,2) “Army” is the descriptive term used by the organization itself, in reference to the expansive world-wide elder body.  This army has been given power to judge and spiritually “kill” any who transgress their decrees. (John 16:2; Rev 13:15) It has effectively trampled down a spiritual nation into silence. (Zeph 3:3,4; Ezek 38:14,15;Joel 2:4,5;Rev 9:7; Dan 11:15,31,36; Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4)
    Now we can see why such great tribulation comes upon God's people (who are not yet sealed). They face an alliance (Dan.2:40-43) that is stronger than any foe they have ever faced in all history 
    (Rev 12:17; 13:1,4,11,14,15; 11:7; 6:9,11) (Rev 16:13-16; 19:19-20).
    Jesus said that if our time of unsealed captivity and trampling under them (Col 2:8; 2 Cor 11:20; Rev 2:20; Micah 3:5; Rev 13:10,7; 11:2; 9:4,10)  were not cut short, none would be saved (Matt 24:22; 7:13,14; Luke 13:23,24; 18:26,27). 
    “The Greatest Tribulation – What and Why?” - https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-greatest-tribulation-why.html
    The opening scripture in Psalm 32:8 continues by saying, “I will give you advice with my eye upon you”.  God sends his prophets to warn His people of the devastating outcome when they have fallen into sin and idolatry. (Zeph 3:7,8; Amos 3:7) He has always advised them to leave the teachings of false prophets/spiritual harlots, and to turn to Him in repentance.   Today, is no different.  (Hos 8:1; Mal 3:1-4; 4:5,6; Matt 17:11; Rev 11:1-3; 22:6).
     
     
    “Armageddon, is it everything you thought it would be?”  - http://armageddon-obadiah.blogspot.com/
     
     
     

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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in THE GOVERNING BODY'S "INSIGHT" COMPELS TRUST   
    This post is an extension of another comment just recently made here.  
    “I will give you insight and instruct you in the way you should go”  Ps 32:8a (NWT)
    This scripture was used by G. Losch, when speaking to JWs about having trust in the “faithful and discreet slave”. (Matt 24:45)  His talk began with these words:
    “1 Cor 13:7 says, that love ‘believes all things’.  Trusting others is an expression of love.  If you love somebody you only assume and think the best of him.”
    With that, he laid the groundwork to convince JWs that their love for the governing leadership, should motivate belief and trust in what they teach. (Prov 5:1-4; 21:6; 2 Tim 4:3,4)
    He pointed out that the leaders have complete trust in God who is guiding them with the Holy Spirit; and in return, God and Jesus trust them to provide “precious” spiritual food. (Prov 23:1-3; John 8:44)
    He stated that JWs can take confidence in the insight given to these men, and their understanding and guidance using God’s word. (Prov 28:26; Matt 7:15-20; 1 Cor 13:4)
    The point was made clear that these men will be “taken to heaven” before the organization’s version of Armageddon breaks out; and with confidence, Jesus will then entrust all his belongings to them. (Psalm 12:3;Isa 44:20; Matt 25:24-30)
    This talk was presented in 2015. In 2020, D. Splane carefully crafted a speech that absolved them from a long-held false teaching about the identity of the locusts in the book of Joel. (Joel 1:4)  Their past “understanding” (falsehood) was that God’s anointed were the locust army, causing devastation through their preaching work.  They were responsible for destruction on the “land,” which was said to signify the people under the rule of religious leaders. However, Joel 1:6,13 specifically points out that it is God’s “land” that is under attack – His people under covenant, who have transgressed his laws.  (Ezek 38:16; Joel 2:3; Rev 9:3,4; Rev 13:5-7; 20:7-9)
    Apparently, they deduced that this past teaching was not so insightful or precious anymore. (Prov 26:12)  The leaders had decided it was time to consider the prophesy “in its context”. (Prov 21:8)
    These men personally project their image as “faithful and discreet” (discreet meaning “wise, trusted, sensible”), and state they are approved by God before Jesus Christ returns.  (Matt 24:46,47; 25:21) (Ps 94:4; Isa 2:17,18; Matt 24:48-51)
    They say that this “faithful and discreet slave” has been gifted with insight from God, since 1919. (Prov 25:14; Jer 29:8,9; 7:8)
    Well, their historical record of consistent failed teachings does not look so insightful; and certainly not precious, since they purge their publications on a regular basis. (Eccl 12:12-14; Luke 16:2) It wasn’t God who was guiding and instructing them ‘in the way they should go’, when writing these now discarded books. It was their own boastful and fleshly motives that inspired their false teachings. (Rom 1:30-32; 2 Tim 3:1-5)  Jesus said that those who remain attached to him, to the “vine”, would produce teachings or “fruit” that would last. (John 15:4-6)
    I think many will agree that it would have been a wise and sensible move, to have read the entire book of Joel "in its context", before assuming that this army was God's holy people, and proceed to teach it wrongly…for years. (Prov 28:11)
    The locust-scorpions in Revelation are also wrongly taught as God’s anointed ones. Will this teaching change in time?  It’s hard to say. They’ve made a comparison, yet a flimsy one, to Joel’s locusts, saying that these plagues are “similar but different”.   You can see their chart here:
    https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/topic/87091-shedding-light-on-the-army-of-locusts/?tab=comments#comment-144049“
    Who are the Locusts” - https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2020/03/who-are-locusts.html
     
    Who then, comprise the army of locusts both in Joel and in Rev chapter 9 in our day?  Why do they come upon God’s people in the last days?  Well, consider the scenario just described. False teachers have captivated them with false promises and corrupt doctrine. (Mark 13:22; Acts 20:29,30; Titus 1:16)
    This was prophesied to occur in the last days – a powerful delusion used by Satan to “sift” the remnant of the holy ones, “as wheat”. (Jer 5:31; Matt 24:24,25; Luke 22:31; Luke 21:24; Rev 2:10;; 2 Thess 2:9-12; 1 Tim 4:1; Col 2:8; Rev 13:10,7; Mal 3:18; Matt 25:33; Rev 12:7 )
    He has ‘employed’ those who accept his gifts of power, authority and riches over the “kingdoms of the inhabited earth” to do his will; that is, to destroy the anointed under the “woman” new covenant, using deceit.  (Luke 4:5-8; Rev 16:13,14; 12:1,4,17)  (In Luke 4:5 , the meaning of “world”, is the "inhabited earth" - God’s land – Ps 132:7; Acts 7:49; 1 Cor 3:9,16; John 14:23)
    To do this, he formulated a lie that led them into idolatry to men and their organization; willingly trusting and believing the false prophet/”harlot’s” teachings. (2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 13:3,4,11,12) As God said, when His people fall into sin, He withdraws His protection.  It is always only a remnant that turns back to Him, seeking forgiveness and protection from the enemy. (Lev 26:1,3,4,9,14,17;40-42;Joel 2:12,13,17,18; Dan 12:1; Rom 9:27,28)
    The anointed “Jews” are under the rule of a “Gentile” army. (Ezek 44:6-9; Rev 11:1,2) “Army” is the descriptive term used by the organization itself, in reference to the expansive world-wide elder body.  This army has been given power to judge and spiritually “kill” any who transgress their decrees. (John 16:2; Rev 13:15) It has effectively trampled down a spiritual nation into silence. (Zeph 3:3,4; Ezek 38:14,15;Joel 2:4,5;Rev 9:7; Dan 11:15,31,36; Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4)
    Now we can see why such great tribulation comes upon God's people (who are not yet sealed). They face an alliance (Dan.2:40-43) that is stronger than any foe they have ever faced in all history 
    (Rev 12:17; 13:1,4,11,14,15; 11:7; 6:9,11) (Rev 16:13-16; 19:19-20).
    Jesus said that if our time of unsealed captivity and trampling under them (Col 2:8; 2 Cor 11:20; Rev 2:20; Micah 3:5; Rev 13:10,7; 11:2; 9:4,10)  were not cut short, none would be saved (Matt 24:22; 7:13,14; Luke 13:23,24; 18:26,27). 
    “The Greatest Tribulation – What and Why?” - https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-greatest-tribulation-why.html
    The opening scripture in Psalm 32:8 continues by saying, “I will give you advice with my eye upon you”.  God sends his prophets to warn His people of the devastating outcome when they have fallen into sin and idolatry. (Zeph 3:7,8; Amos 3:7) He has always advised them to leave the teachings of false prophets/spiritual harlots, and to turn to Him in repentance.   Today, is no different.  (Hos 8:1; Mal 3:1-4; 4:5,6; Matt 17:11; Rev 11:1-3; 22:6).
     
     
    “Armageddon, is it everything you thought it would be?”  - http://armageddon-obadiah.blogspot.com/
     
     
     

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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    Understandably. It just means that each new generation (new GB generation, new JW members generation, or people in general) has learned nothing from previous generations from the recent or distant past.  
    Is this paragraph about asking questions due to a misunderstanding by followers? Or is it that the followers tried to set the dogma on the basis of Jesus' teaching and-or previous or subsequent answers / comments / illustrations He gave them?
    Sure, it’s not ideal for a sinner to follow another sinner, but if a JW member so desires, who am I to object to that?  
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    Please note the question mark at the end of the sentence. Do you know what it means ?
    It means that the sentence was a QUESTION. It was not a statement. It was not a teaching. Not a doctrine. 
    Imagining that. BUT Not teaching it as fact. 
    The Watchtower / GB teach things as facts by pretending that they are the F&DS. 
    You deliberately want to hide yourself from the difference. So you basically misuse scripture which in turn loses you credibility. 
    You need to think on this. The 'missteps' (lies) of your GB / Watchtower / Org, are condemning people to death.
     Luke 17 : 1 & 2 
    Berean Study Bible
    Jesus said to His disciples, “It is inevitable that stumbling blocks will come, but woe to the one through whom they come! It would be better for him to have a millstone hung around his neck and to be thrown into the sea than to cause one of these little ones to stumble. 
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    I am sorry, but wish to react with illustration connected to real JW life. 
    When WTJWorg religious leaders replace one theology with another, then it is also called “loss of credibility”. JW members who reluctantly accept the new theology, along with GB, are losing credibility, too.
    Take for example the teaching of “generation”. From a logical point of view, the previous concept seems more acceptable. You set a chronological reference point (1914), determine the lifespan of a generation (70-80 years), and establish the claim that it is this generation that will not die before the Kingdom is established.
    Now, all JWs (with exceptions, of course) have abandoned their own credibility into a doctrine that had a fundamental value for everyday life, both literal and spiritual. And what have you achieved with that? This is a question you need to think about well.
    "Everyone else in the world" are not so much in lose if few sentences are in the Bible or not or if they don't know how generation issue have new interpretation in JW religion.  
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    Can someone explain to me, to whom would it have been advantageous to insert that piece of writing ?
    'Religions' have always been about control. That piece of writing was concerning forgiveness. Therefore whoever wanted that piece of writing included, wanted forgiveness of sins, as opposed to punishment (by death). 
    Matthew 9 : 13  The words of Jesus 
    Berean Study Bible
    But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”
    I am not fighting this battle as to whether it should or should not be included. I am just giving proof that from the time of Jesus Christ living here on this Earth, things changed drastically. They changed from punishment of death, to, mercy and forgiveness shown by God through Jesus Christ. I do agree with Tom, that forgiveness is only possible if the person is repentant. 
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    Witness reacted to Kick_Faceinator in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    Not a misstep, they actually tried to change Gods “times and laws”.
    It finishes in Acts 1:7 when “He said to them:
    “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.” That being said, these men believed they can “calculate” when the kingdom would be restored, they actually thought they had knowledge superior to the original disciples to know these “times and dates” by twisting Daniels 7 times to equate 2520 physical years, changing “times and laws”:
    “He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.” Dan 7:25
    They’ve painted themselves into a corner while obligated to say in their heart “my master delays”, beating anyone who disagrees with them. Matthew 24:48-49.
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    Of COURSE the Wt. will not attest to Pearl's teachings, because she is exposing their false doctrine.
    WHO called her out?  You?  Do you think you are the first one to come against her teachings?
    I'm not surprised when people like Robert King is waiting at the exit door to lead them down another rabbit hole. You do realize that Satan will use his own "chosen" ones to mislead the anointed remnant; whether inside the organization or by the likes of men like Robert King.  And also, not everyone leaving thirsts to find truth.  
    Please, show me proof of what you are saying.  She teaches the anointed Body of Christ as the "church".  I have not heard anything about the judges of Israel as having had a "church".  Now, if you are meaning the anointed priesthood of spiritual Israel, they ARE judges.  1 Cor 6:2
      He is the Destroyer, who do you think did the destroying?  
    Ps 78:43-49 - When He worked His signs in Egypt,
    And His wonders in the field of Zoan;
    44 Turned their rivers into blood,
    And their streams, that they could not drink.
    45 He sent swarms of flies among them, which devoured them,
    And frogs, which destroyed them.
    46 He also gave their crops to the caterpillar,
    And their labor to the locust.
    47 He destroyed their vines with hail,
    And their sycamore trees with frost.
    48 He also gave up their cattle to the hail,
    And their flocks to fiery lightning.
    49 He cast on them the fierceness of His anger,
    Wrath, indignation, and trouble,
    By sending angels of destruction among them.
    "Angels of destruction" - "evil angels/messengers"....belonging to whom?  Satan, the Destroyer   (Strongs H7451, H4397)
    Satan is the Betrayer and the Destroyer.  Isa 33:1; John 10:10
    God has sent a lying spirit  into the mouths of a false prophets. (1 Kings 22:19-23)  He allowed Satan to cause affliction on Job.   God doesn't follow the rules of men - not even your rules, SM.  Yet never would He do these things unless He had just cause.  
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    Of COURSE the Wt. will not attest to Pearl's teachings, because she is exposing their false doctrine.
    WHO called her out?  You?  Do you think you are the first one to come against her teachings?
    I'm not surprised when people like Robert King is waiting at the exit door to lead them down another rabbit hole. You do realize that Satan will use his own "chosen" ones to mislead the anointed remnant; whether inside the organization or by the likes of men like Robert King.  And also, not everyone leaving thirsts to find truth.  
    Please, show me proof of what you are saying.  She teaches the anointed Body of Christ as the "church".  I have not heard anything about the judges of Israel as having had a "church".  Now, if you are meaning the anointed priesthood of spiritual Israel, they ARE judges.  1 Cor 6:2
      He is the Destroyer, who do you think did the destroying?  
    Ps 78:43-49 - When He worked His signs in Egypt,
    And His wonders in the field of Zoan;
    44 Turned their rivers into blood,
    And their streams, that they could not drink.
    45 He sent swarms of flies among them, which devoured them,
    And frogs, which destroyed them.
    46 He also gave their crops to the caterpillar,
    And their labor to the locust.
    47 He destroyed their vines with hail,
    And their sycamore trees with frost.
    48 He also gave up their cattle to the hail,
    And their flocks to fiery lightning.
    49 He cast on them the fierceness of His anger,
    Wrath, indignation, and trouble,
    By sending angels of destruction among them.
    "Angels of destruction" - "evil angels/messengers"....belonging to whom?  Satan, the Destroyer   (Strongs H7451, H4397)
    Satan is the Betrayer and the Destroyer.  Isa 33:1; John 10:10
    God has sent a lying spirit  into the mouths of a false prophets. (1 Kings 22:19-23)  He allowed Satan to cause affliction on Job.   God doesn't follow the rules of men - not even your rules, SM.  Yet never would He do these things unless He had just cause.  
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in It's interesting how when we read scriptures which give analogies of the delta between us and Jehovah   
    Oh, the depth of the riches
    and the wisdom and the knowledge of God!
    How unsearchable his judgments
    and untraceable his ways!  Rom 11:33
    Many are the plans in the mind of a man, but it is the purpose of the Lord that will stand.  Prov 19:21
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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    Of COURSE the Wt. will not attest to Pearl's teachings, because she is exposing their false doctrine.
    WHO called her out?  You?  Do you think you are the first one to come against her teachings?
    I'm not surprised when people like Robert King is waiting at the exit door to lead them down another rabbit hole. You do realize that Satan will use his own "chosen" ones to mislead the anointed remnant; whether inside the organization or by the likes of men like Robert King.  And also, not everyone leaving thirsts to find truth.  
    Please, show me proof of what you are saying.  She teaches the anointed Body of Christ as the "church".  I have not heard anything about the judges of Israel as having had a "church".  Now, if you are meaning the anointed priesthood of spiritual Israel, they ARE judges.  1 Cor 6:2
      He is the Destroyer, who do you think did the destroying?  
    Ps 78:43-49 - When He worked His signs in Egypt,
    And His wonders in the field of Zoan;
    44 Turned their rivers into blood,
    And their streams, that they could not drink.
    45 He sent swarms of flies among them, which devoured them,
    And frogs, which destroyed them.
    46 He also gave their crops to the caterpillar,
    And their labor to the locust.
    47 He destroyed their vines with hail,
    And their sycamore trees with frost.
    48 He also gave up their cattle to the hail,
    And their flocks to fiery lightning.
    49 He cast on them the fierceness of His anger,
    Wrath, indignation, and trouble,
    By sending angels of destruction among them.
    "Angels of destruction" - "evil angels/messengers"....belonging to whom?  Satan, the Destroyer   (Strongs H7451, H4397)
    Satan is the Betrayer and the Destroyer.  Isa 33:1; John 10:10
    God has sent a lying spirit  into the mouths of a false prophets. (1 Kings 22:19-23)  He allowed Satan to cause affliction on Job.   God doesn't follow the rules of men - not even your rules, SM.  Yet never would He do these things unless He had just cause.  
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    D. Splane did say that this is war.  Only one side of this war is blessed with Holy Spirit; that is, the side that defends only God’s word – Jesus’ teachings, and God’s sovereignty.  The other side must defend their actions in court, their failed teachings, doctrine of men, their hidden child abuse/spousal abuse, their organization.  How do they defend their “side”?  By telling those associated with them who may have doubts…
    #1 - Be like the Bereans (Acts 17:10,11), which means go to a meeting, get to know the brothers, visit Bethel. Did you notice he never mentioned that the questioning one should research a teaching topic on the website? (such as "this generation" teaching) That would send him into confusion! 
    #2 - Don’t be like Bereans, which means don’t read anything that an “apostate” has to tell you, “to see if this is so”.  Don't believe anything they tell you.  
    There is too much power over others, a cushy life, admiration from followers, earthly motives to expand their empire…all is just too much to lose on the side of the GB.
    I have nothing to lose in this war. 🙂  Mark 8:34-38
     
     

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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in It's interesting how when we read scriptures which give analogies of the delta between us and Jehovah   
    Oh, the depth of the riches
    and the wisdom and the knowledge of God!
    How unsearchable his judgments
    and untraceable his ways!  Rom 11:33
    Many are the plans in the mind of a man, but it is the purpose of the Lord that will stand.  Prov 19:21
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in It's interesting how when we read scriptures which give analogies of the delta between us and Jehovah   
    Oh, the depth of the riches
    and the wisdom and the knowledge of God!
    How unsearchable his judgments
    and untraceable his ways!  Rom 11:33
    Many are the plans in the mind of a man, but it is the purpose of the Lord that will stand.  Prov 19:21
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    Your early spiritual fathers must have tolerated them, at least for awhile.  Were those individuals not worth their salt?  The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures, was produced by the WT.  The 1985 version is on the JW website, and in there are the spurious scriptures.  
    How dare the GB (who are not worth their salt perhaps?)  allow it, right?
     
     
     


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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    You live in a spiritual haven where love can be turned off at the drop of an announcement - "disfellowshipped!"  So I understand why you are so adamant that these scriptures are "spurious", never to have been added to God's word at any time over history.    And, it can't be dismissed that its presence in your Bible would be a challenge to overcome, if a JW brought them up in a judicial meeting. Because it isn't in there, it makes life for your judges so much easier to follow their rules, instead of the law of love in Jesus Christ.
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    Do all "Trinitarians" think alike?  Do all "Anti-Trinitarians" think alike?  Obviously not.  This is one "Anti-Trinitarian" that believes John 7:53-8:11 is a true account, and the account has nothing to do with the trinity.   I so appreciated how you described the qualities of Jesus Christ, but even though we are both “Anti-Trinitarians”, I don’t believe in all that you believe. You have to accept that.  In fact, I think you tend to focus on the worldly and not on the spiritual. You apply earthly concepts to the meaning of prophecy as JWs do, which comes through the eyes of a “natural man”.  (1 Cor 2:14)
     I very much appreciated how the link I provided was laid out clearly for me, even though the writer may be a “Trinitarian”.  So, what am I to do, shun all Trinitarians even though there may be some truth to their words in other topics?  If I am to shun all Catholics, I should be shunning my brother and his family and all of his friends.  Yet, my Catholic sister-in-law has worked in the soup kitchen for many years, providing for the homeless.  I am not in charge of reading her heart, or the hearts of my family.  They accepted me for my “anti-trinitarian” + Watchtower beliefs…for years. My sons are now agnostic. Should I shun them because they fit in some category?   Their judgment is in the hands of God, as is mine.  I am not in charge of reading the hearts of all "Trinitarians"; are you?  
     I am an “Anti-Trinitarian” as you say, as are the people I have come from.  I don’t shun them for not believing in their organization, but they shun me for my actions/words against it.   Can you see how lumping people into a specific group of "trinitarian" and "anti-trinitarian", is going a little overboard?   It is just another form of bias.
    This is the time of confusion, which will eventually be cleared up for all righteous-hearted people, who will come to the knowledge of truth.  Isa 2
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    I really don't know why you expect people to jump at your command.  I gave you a link to a comprehensive article.  I have given my opinion on the scriptures.  You have given yours.  If that is not good enough, nothing will be good enough for you - a man who demands obedience to his rules.  Sheesh, SM, this is a forum of opinions, thoughts and feelings, and facts.  Whatever you contribute, I'm fine with it, but don't expect me to follow your lead!
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Dmitar in The Sacred Field Ministry Stopped by a Bad Flu?   
    It appears you removed part of your comment... never mind.  I found it in another comment - 
    "There is plenty of reason to not believe it. Though Jesus forgives sin frequently in scripture, there is always some evidence of repentance on the sinning one’s part. There is some basis for forgiveness. Here there is not."
      Well, it is true that the Wt. cannot tolerate these "spurious" scriptures because they would diminish the power of disfellowshipping.  
    Jesus knew the heart of each person that he met.  He could read the heart of the woman "who led a sinful life" in Luke 7:36-50, and he forgave her.  (Matt 12:25; Luke 6:8; John 2:25)  It is impossible for your leaders to accept the passage of "mercy" in John 7-8 as @Pudgy called it, because there was no visible evidence of remorse over the woman's sins.  Elders, as you well know, cannot read a person's heart.  So they judge in error, many times destroying the lives of the person they have judged.  Jesus could never judge a person's heart in error.   Not only have JWs checked the hand of God in HIs ability to bring this passage to light,  but also is the hand of Jesus Christ.  JWs find it impossible for Jesus to forgive the woman so easily in the account. 
    "Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law."   Rom 13:10
    "For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'”  Gal 5:14
    "If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, 'Love your neighbor as yourself,' you are doing right."  James 2:8
    This "law" was set up by God of the "Old Testament".  Yet, the Wt "law" that is set up through the hands of "Jehovah's organization", does not react with love.  It reacts through the power of men over others.  It reacts through selfish desires.  
    "The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation."  Col 1:15  This means that even the God of the "Old Testament" would have forgiven and saved the woman from death, at the hands of the lying Pharisees. 
     
     
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