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    tromboneck reacted to Bible Speaks in 2017 Service Year Report Grand Totals   
    Jehovah’s Witnesses - Big Totals 2017
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    Branches of Jehovah's witnesses: 90
    Number of countries: 240
    Total Congregations: 120,053
    Global Memorial Attendance : 20,175,477
    Participants in Memorial Emblems worldwide: 18,564
    Maximum Peak: 8,457,107
    Average Preachers every month: 8,248,982
    Percentage increase compared to 2016: 1.4 %
    Total number baptized: 284,212
    Average Pioneers each month: 1,249,946
    Average Publishers as auxiliary Pioners each month: 439,571
    Total hours spent in the field: 2,046,000,202
    Average Bible studies each month: 10,071,524
    During the 2017 service year, Jehovah's witnesses spent more than $ 202 million on the care of Pioneers, missionaries and special circuit supervisors in their field service assignments. Around the world, a total of 19,730 ministers ordered as staff of branch facilities. They are all members of the world order of full-time special servants of Jehovah's witnesses.
    * The 2017 year of service was from 1 September 2016 to 31 August 2017.
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    tromboneck reacted to Matthew9969 in 2017 Service Year Report Grand Totals   
    Do they have as much to boast about their financial report
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    tromboneck reacted to Queen Esther in WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE IN THE NEW WORLD?   
    First  my  Dad  and  my  Brother
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    tromboneck reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE IN THE NEW WORLD?   
    My Mother used to try and explain Jehovah's desire for his favorite project, humanity, to be happy, with the scripture in 1st Corinthians 2:9:
    1 Corinthians 2:9 New King James Version (NKJV)
    9 But as it is written:
    “Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
    Nor have entered into the heart of man
    The things which God has prepared for those who love Him."
    Extrapolating on this, I have a deep yearning in my heart to see my dogs who have died before me, resurrected as a manifestation of Jehovah's mercy for we humans who love dogs. I hope there is something like a Rainbow Bridge where they are playing and having a good time, waiting for me to show up when I die, and together we will cross over the Rainbow Bridge to whatever it is that God has in store for those that love him.
    There is nothing in the Bible to support this deep yearning ... but then again ... there is nothing in the Bible that speaks against it.
    I suppose beloved family dogs already "know" ..... and soon ..... too soon ...... so will I.
     
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    tromboneck reacted to TrueTomHarley in How do JWs pronounce COBE?   
    It translates into 'El Presidente' in some languages. Hence there is COBE.
    It caused me trouble. I do nothing but raz our COBE, and he me,  and we are on good terms. When a new Bethel bigwig came to visit and was staying with our COBE, I said to him at our first meeting: "Are you the hotshot from Bethel who comes down to straighten out our no-good COBE?" Only I didn't say COBE. Inadvertently, I said CO. He got a shocked look on his face and wilted away.
    When I realized my mistake I called the COBE by phone and said he had to bail me out. He did - but he said I owed him one or two (or three).
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    tromboneck reacted to Queen Esther in Time-Lapse: Beautiful Cacti Bloom Before Your Eyes.... Enjoy !   
    Time-Lapse:  Beautiful Cacti Bloom Before Your Eyes    Enjoy !
    Jehovah's  beautiful  Creations  ? ? ? .•*¨`*•..¸???¸.•*¨`*•. ? ? ?
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    tromboneck reacted to Anna in 1975 and the Jehovah's Witnesses   
    Still conjecture I'm afraid....
    Yes, I am aware, I was only being brief. I understand the reasoning behind it. But still, we cannot say that this is what Jesus had in mind....
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    tromboneck reacted to AnonymousBrother in 1975 and the Jehovah's Witnesses   
    Guess the horse ain't dead yet.
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    tromboneck reacted to Anna in Do homosexual acts on the part of a married person constitute a Scriptural ground for divorce, freeing the innocent mate to remarry?   
    Wikipedia: "For instance, in the United Kingdom, adultery is not a criminal offense, but is a ground for divorce,  with the legal definition of adultery being "physical contact with an alien and unlawful organ"
    That seems to cover everything quite well.  Even sex with Aliens.
    However, true to the fact, as J.R posted,  apparently same sex infidelity is not adultery.
    http://www.terry.co.uk/adultery.html
     
     
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    tromboneck reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in Do homosexual acts on the part of a married person constitute a Scriptural ground for divorce, freeing the innocent mate to remarry?   
    This is why in my considerations, reasonings and arguments, I try to use scriptures as little as possible ... as in the movie "Deliverance" you can have "dueling banjos", in the movie "Theology", you can have "dueling scriptures".
    When I first came to the Truth circa 1960, I did so because it was reasonable, rational, and true ... but to be fair to myself, I never imagined situations like this, much less any questions and answers where the answers were COMPLETELY DIVORCED from any common sense whatsoever ....
    How much very real damage did this cause?  And, for how many years ... and to how many TENS OF THOUSANDS of Brothers and Sisters who had faith in the Governing Body who WERE BETRAYED BY THIS CRAP?
    After this ... how can we have faith that ANYTHING they say is the correct application of scripture?  Next thing you know ... they would be saying that "abstain from blood" means you can take 99% of blood as blood fractions if you felt it was O.K., or that the generation that Jesus talked about was two OVERLAPPING generations ... or that this system will all be over by 1975 ... or that ( in the 1989 Awake) four years of Education would not be a good use of the remaining time left.
    Here are two quotes that have always been true, and will always be true.
    You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. Abraham Lincoln
    Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/abraham_lincoln_110340 "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."   -  Abraham Lincoln
    " The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."  -   Marcus Aurelius
    UNFORTUNATELY  Jehovah's Witnesses are the only true religion on Earth today, and the best I have been able to ascertain there is no other Congregation of God.
    That does not mean we are OBLIGATED to be blind, ignorant, and stupid, and not have a clue as to reality the way it really is.
    The following is a Parody of the exact way that the people that govern us think .... if it wasn't so funny, it would be unbearably sad ... as the destructive real life example given above was.
                                                             QUESTIONS FROM READERS
    Are Cats For True Christians?
    Is it appropriate for a Christian to own a cat, in light of their past pagan religious affiliation and the medical information that is now coming to light? -J.R., U.S.A.
    It would be misleading to answer this question with either a simple ‘Yes’ or a ‘No.’ The Scriptural answer of necessity must be a ‘qualified’ one, and it is easy to see why.
    Many conscientious ones among Jehovah’s people today have wondered if Christians should own cats in view of their somewhat sordid symbolic history and the many health risks associated therewith. While we would not wish to state an opinion on what must remain a matter of personal preference, what is acceptable to one person may, although unintentionally, stumble another.
    This can become a life-or-death issue since to move the steps of a brother away from the path of Christ’s ransom sacrifice is tantamount to ‘putting a millstone around the neck and being thrown into the sea.’ -Matt. 18:6. Clearly, in a matter where our eternal salvation is involved, the mature Christian will not pursue a purely selfish course based on his own personal choices, but will adopt a congregational viewpoint as scripturally prescribed.
    First, let us consider what most scholars agree is the etymology (word derivation) for the English term ‘cat’. When analyzed with the Latin ‘felis cattus domesticus’, the original Koine Greek is ‘cur.io huma bes-tia’, means ‘a contemporary housecat with all of its beastly identifying characteristics and behavior.’ A faithful servant of Jehovah would quickly notice that the nature of a cat is so marked as being ‘beastly’.
    The Bible makes clear reference to this condition when describing parts of Satan’s organizations, both past and present. For instance, consider the fearsome ‘beasts’ as described in the book of Daniel or the ‘scarlet colored wild beast’ in Rev. 17:3. The demons entered the swine when rebuked by Jesus showing the potential harm and malevolent spirit control to which a Christian may be potentially exposed. Lest we forget the story of Nebuchadnezzar and the condition of God’s enemy when being humbled by Jehovah, the student of God’s Holy word would ask – is it by accident that the Bible in the book of Daniel describes his experience as a ‘beast’ of the field? Hardly so!
    Clearly, the Bible – by using this kind of terminology – shows beyond any reasonable doubt that the basic nature of cats, while created perfect by God, has become evil or ‘beastlike’ since the fall of Adam six thousand years ago, and more probably, since the Great Flood of Noah’s time (c2350 B.C.E.).
    This is a development of the condition borne by the ‘Original Serpent’, the ‘Great Dragon’ Lucifer himself. (Gen. 3:1) Indeed, modern studies of classification of cats, while not necessarily being reliable as they may be based on the discredited ‘theory’ of evolution, strongly associate felines with serpents (despite some external differences in physiology and morphology, which confuse those who do not study these matters deeply).
    There are numerous reasons why a loyal dedicated servant of God should use his Bible-trained conscience to arrive at a proper understanding of why cats are not advisable as pets or companions for Christians. Consider, then, the following facts:
    It was a common practice in ancient Egypt to worship or idolize cats as ‘gods’. Indeed, after death many cats were mummified, venerated and sacrifices were made to them.
    As Christians we observe not only the Mosaic Law, but also the ‘necessary things,’ identified by the Apostles at Jerusalem, to include the following edict: ‘(1) Abstain from sacrifices to idols’. We are to ‘guard ourselves from idols’ and ‘worship no other gods’. Such feline influence could lead to idolatry and thereby ‘grieve Jehovah’s Spirit’ with tragic consequences.
    May we never take for granted Jehovah’s wise and generous counsel brought to you by your spiritual brothers in the pages of this magazine!
    The Bible does not say that cats were not present at Herod’s birthday party when John the Baptist was beheaded. History shows that cats were most likely present at this tragic party that Jehovah did not approve of. Clearly then, as loyal Christians, why would we even want to associate with animals that are without a doubt of such bad influence, remembering how true are the Bible’s words: ‘Bad associations spoil useful habits’! -1 Cor. 15:33.
    Some have exposed themselves to possible spiritual contamination in this way. To invite cats in our house is to toy with disaster. Can one deny that the chance exists that the same grave consequences could visit your home that fell upon John?
    Clearly, God disapproved of this ‘birthday’ party. Should we not then disapprove (without showing any malicious intent, only Godly hatred) of cats the way the scriptures recommend?
    Throughout history, particularly in the middle ages and reaching its climax in the Salem Witch trials of the seventeenth century, cats were recognized by the forces of Christendom as familiars and carriers if not direct incarnates of demons. While, in common with most beliefs of the empire of false religion, no evidence has ever been found to support this, the symbolism of cats still remain within the public psyche, and involvement with them reflects poorly on God’s footstools and footstep followers.
    Many pagan faiths still conclude that black cats bring ill-luck and possess demonic forces, while we have shown that it is, instead, all cats that share these perceived characteristics.
    Since cats were associated with the devil, could we as faithful and dedicated servants of God therefore contaminate ourselves by exposure to a ‘living symbol’ of satanic incarnation? How would this reflect on God’s name and that of his visible, earthly organization? Would we want to be linked with a symbol of Satan, the ‘god of this beastly system of things’?
    The careful student of the Bible will acknowledge that nowhere within it is any species (‘kind’) of cat referred to in favorable terms. In fact, was it not lions of the first century who the Devil used to devour faithful Christians? Jehovah Himself ‘stopped up the mouths of the lions’ (Dan. 6:22) in Daniel’s day.
    True, the small housecats of today are not quite lions, but being of the same accursed animal family used by God’s enemies on numerous occasions throughout history, would it be wise or prudent to own one? In addition, by owing any type of cat (feline), would we not give an appearance of condoning their evil deeds throughout recorded Bible and secular history?
    The Bible makes clear that God’s people are ‘no part of this world’ (John 15:19) and that we are ‘not to share in the sins of others’, consume lecithin within nutritive cereal or ‘candy’ bars, or do other things directly banned in Holy Scripture.
    The demeanor of a cat is seen by many honest-hearted observers as reflecting some supernatural, unnatural proclivity towards malice or evil. And, it is a well-known fact that cats are impossible to tame, teach or raise in the truth. The cat has a rebellious, independent spirit. While the animal itself may be unaware of this tragic condition, it serves only its true master – Satan, the Devil.
    The scriptures clearly indicate that neither Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, faithful Job, the Apostles, Jesus nor any other human bearing God’s favor himself owned a cat.
    Should we simply assume that this is a mere coincidence? Surely not!
    This was most likely because they didn’t want to be like the pagan contemporaries of their respective days who showed no regard for how God feels about owning a cat. In harmony with the pattern set by the faithful prophets and worthies of old, it would therefore not be fitting for the true Christian today to own a cat.
    But, the most modern scientific evidence also supports the Biblical view.
    Contrary to popular beliefs among worldly people, cats are unhygienic animals. Recently the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) announced that ‘Cats .. can shed Salmonella in their feces, which can spread the bacterial infection to humans’. Salmonella (salmonella typhimurium) creates a condition of ‘week-long diarrhea, abdominal cramps and in some instances, hospitalization.’
    Would we be showing the proper respect to our life, Creator and to our ‘neighbor’ by exposing ourselves and others to this potentially deadly disease? Would this be seen by your brothers, and by those showing an interest in God’s word, as giving a good witness?
    Additionally, cats practice many unclean habits not befitting a Christian household: coughing up fur balls, licking inappropriate body areas on their own bodies (inappropriate handling) and even, in some cases, on the bodies of their human owners (wrongful motive?), urination on the floor, vocal and blatant promiscuity (unknown to any other species, all others being endowed with Godly chastity and decorum) and widespread sexual misconduct without the benefit or sanctity of holy matrimony, even orgiastic practices, substance abuse of catnip (an intoxicating herb) which produces conditions akin to drunkenness, stealing food from the table, producing ungodly sounds, excessive playfulness and the employment of devices not known to have been used by Jesus, the conducting of its unholy business under the cover of the darkness of night, and so on. What sort of example does this give our young ones endeavoring to faithfully serve Jehovah? The Bible clearly shows that ‘neither fornicators .. nor thieves .. nor drunkards .. nor revilers .. will inherit the Kingdom.’ (1 Cor. 6:9-11)
    It must not be forgotten that the feline is a killer. It eats mice and their kind, which is forbidden to Christians and their pets (Lev. 11:29, Isa. 66:17). But, far more serious, is the matter of the wanton consumption of the undrained corpses of the victims of this nocturnal creature; eating bodies filled with God’s sacred blood is not a matter to be trifled with (Gen. 9:3,4; Lev. 3:17; Deut. 12:16,23,24; Acts 15:20,28,29).
    In an earlier article in The Watchtower, we have shown that it would be improper for a Christian to permit a veterinarian to give blood transfusions to his pet, for animal feed known to contain blood to be served to a pet or a farm animal under one’s jurisdiction, or to employ any fertilizer that is known to have blood in it (w64 2/15 127-8). By allowing one’s cat to roam uncontrolled, the Christian becomes a willing party to, even a conspirator within, this serious breach of God’s law of life.
    In addition, the Apostle Paul admonishes us to ‘quit mixing in company .. not even eating with such an unclean [one].’ -1 Cor. 5:9-11; Mark 2:13-17. Although Paul was speaking primarily about Christians who fell into sin, there is no reason to conclude that this inspired Biblical principle cannot be applied to association with cats.
    Uncleanness in any form is condemned by Jehovah and the fact that the Apostle Paul made no distinction when it came to associating with housecats proves beyond a doubt to the right-thinking worshiper of Jehovah that loyal Christians must avoid all association with all sources of uncleanness. This would logically include animals that either harbor these tendencies or indulge in such practices.
    Of course, while demonstrating one’s obedience to God’s lovingly-issued commandments, one must do so without any spirit of meanness or ill-will towards these Satanic creatures, though they represent God’s enemies. Instead, mature Christians ‘feel a loathing’ toward those, including cats, who have voluntarily or otherwise made themselves God’s enemies, and they leave it to Jehovah to execute vengeance. -Job 13:16; Romans 12:19; 2 John 9,10.
    Are we not grateful for this insight on God’s viewpoint regarding such matters? True worshipers follow closely God’s mandates on cleanness to their eternal benefit! Sister N.K. from Virginia, U.S.A. tells us that since getting rid of her cat, she has not had to be preoccupied with cleaning the litter box or wasting valuable time better spent pursuing kingdom interests with the burden of purchasing cat food.
    This has allowed her to become a full-time pioneer; she finds that it is now easier to meet her allotted hours in field service. Godwin, a brother from Sierra Leone, puts it this way: ‘I’m so grateful that God’s organization is kept clean! It has freed me from the burden of owning a cat and all the spiritual pitfalls and financial commitments that go with it. I hope all the brothers will realize how the Devil subtly uses cats to corrupt and distract us from the disciple-making work.’ (Matt. 24:14). What fine examples of faithfulness!
    The question of how to dispose of one’s unwanted cat is a serious matter. Would it be proper to hand over such a creature of Satan to a person of the world? We see no immediate problem with this, as such a person is already immersed in the wicked ways of this system of things, and so a beastly companion would be a fitting one indeed. They could accompany each other on the road to destruction, through ignoring God’s generous gift of life proffered via His spirit-begotten earthly organization.
    It is on this same sound principle that a Christian doctor would have no reason to deny blood transfusions to a worldly patient. If, on the other hand, one took the view stated on page 128 of the above mentioned Watchtower, and consider that the pet or any other animal is under the ultimate jurisdiction of a Christian, who therefore bears responsibilities (Eccl. 12:13,14; Jas. 4:17, 1 Pet. 3:21) that are essentially parental in nature.
    The cat is a dependent. In harmony with this, surely it is the parent’s obligation before God to ensure the feline pet is treated as one would an unruly child who repeatedly refused to obey its parents, or of one who committed apostasy. Unfortunately in the case of human offspring, one is limited by the laws of the higher authorities of the land as to what scripturally-ordained punishment may be meted out, as compliance with both sets of laws is necessary in such areas.
    This may not always be the case in terms of felines, where the fact that we are not living in theocratic countries may not prove such an impediment to what God requires of us, as man made law may not afford such unmerited protection to cats as it does to humans. God’s soldiers would be mindful to apply, where the case merited it and local custom did not prohibit it, the principle of Deut. 21:18-21 which states that: ‘In case a man happens to have a [dependent] who is stubborn and rebellious, he not listening to the voice of his [guardian], and they have corrected him but he will not listen to them, his [guardian] must also take hold of him and bring him out to the older men of his city and to the gate of his place, and they must say to the older men of his city, ‘This [dependent] of ours is stubborn and rebellious; he is not listening to our voice, being a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of his city must pelt him with stones, and he must die.’ The mature follower of Jehovah will do well to be reminded of God’s advice in page 503 of The Watchtower of November 15, 1952 where it was held that ‘In the case where a father or mother or son or daughter is disfellowshiped, how should such person be treated by members of the family in their family relationship? .. We are not living today among theocratic nations where such members of our fleshly family relationship could be exterminated for apostasy from God and his theocratic organization, as was possible and was ordered in the nation of Israel in the wilderness of Sinai and in the land of Palestine.
    ‘Thou shalt surely kill him; thy hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him to death with stones, because he hath sought to draw thee away from Jehovah thy God, .. And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is in the midst of thee.’ -Deut. 13:6-11, AS.’ Of course, we can take no legal responsibility for anything which results from your voluntary application of your interpretation of such Biblical principles as you may believe that we have brought to your attention.
    As loyal followers of Jehovah’s thinking on this matter, we can rejoice in the fact that in the new system, the incoming theocracy and World Order, the ‘lion will lie down with the lamb’ -Isa. 11:6-7. Yes, when Satan is finally abyssed, the ‘beastly’ nature of felines will be forever abolished, and they will be fit companions for humans on Paradise Earth! But until that rapidly-approaching time, God will reward all of our efforts to maintain integrity by loyally submitting to the leading of his spirit expressed through the loving guidance of the ‘faithful and discreet slave’. -Matt. 24:45-47
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    " The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."  -   Marcus Aurelius
     
    Even Jesus, Joseph, and Mary escaped to Egypt for awhile ... during the "crazy years".
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    tromboneck reacted to Evacuated in If Babylon fell in one Night, can it be the same for this wicked world? –?????   
    The time of judgement will seem fast when it starts because it will be fast, Jehovah never drags out His executive action. He is not vindictive, even in judgement, is He?
    As for the time left until then? As it is reduced (1Cor.7:29), and reduces every time we think about it,  then of course less time remains each moment that we live.
    But Jehovah does not speed up the time left until the "great tribulation". He is actually patient with us, because He does not desire any to be destroyed (2Pet.3:9). So the more time left, the more time we have to help others to "repentance". But, for them, there is less time left for them to develop a strong faith in preparation for the future events. That is when Jehovah can intervene to speed up the numbers hauled in from this old system (Is. 60:22), and to speed up their development to the level of maturity they need (1Cor 3:6). And then, after we all have endured, He can finish our training (1Pet.5:10).
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    tromboneck reacted to Watcher in Why a luxury compound?   
    So in other words.....youre closed to any information that has been shown to you in the past and whats more...you are not open to view any information objectively that has or will be shown to you in the future? - Got it. 
    "I'll have a serious discussion with anyone who is able and willing. But I haven't seen anything resembling such so far under this thread. Only the same old hoary chestnuts thrashed out ad nauseum elsewhere."- Gone Fishing.
     
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    tromboneck reacted to Watcher in Why a luxury compound?   
    I can only assume that "Gone Fishing" is not looking for a serious discussion. Because anyone who is even remotely aware of the current events and the goings on within the watchtower knows good and well that things ARE NOT WELL. Even the very first sentence from this poster was sadly laughable.
    ". Why not? If they believe Paul's description of themselves that they are "ambassadors substituting for Christ" (2Cor 5:20) and that Christ is the ruler of Jehovah's Messianic Kingdom "-Gone Fishing
    Not even the King Himself Jesus Christ didnt enjoyed such luxuries and neither did he seek them. The scriptures plainly states
    " But Jesus said to him: “Foxes have dens and birds of heaven have nests, but the Son of man has nowhere to lay down his head."- Luke 9:58
    yet here they are...living in high luxury.  
    "Are you already satisfied? Are you already rich? Have you begun ruling as kings+ without us? I really wish that you had begun ruling as kings, so that we also might rule with you as kings.+" 1Corithians 4:8
    And dont even get me started about the child sex abuse cases that are being piled up within the courtrooms around the world ...little boys and girls who have been rapped and molested by those who are/were in leadership positions within the organization and the Watchtower refusal to cooperate with the superior authorities. 
    No...I cant take this poster serious at all.
     
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    tromboneck reacted to Evacuated in JWs Among the Least Educated in the US   
    "For you see his calling of you, brothers, that there are not many wise in a fleshly way, not many powerful, not many of noble birth,
    but God chose the foolish things of the world to put the wise men to shame; and God chose the weak things of the world to put the strong things to shame;
    and God chose the insignificant things of the world and the things looked down on, the things that are not, to bring to nothing the things that are,
    so that no one might boast in the sight of God.
    But it is due to him that you are in union with Christ Jesus, who has become to us wisdom from God, also righteousness and sanctification and release by ransom,
    so that it may be just as it is written: “The one who boasts, let him boast in Jehovah"
    1Corinthians 1:26-31
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    tromboneck reacted to TrueTomHarley in JWs Among the Least Educated in the US   
    Nobody has a problem with education. it is the assumption that it can only be had in the way the greater world ladles it out that Christians have a problem with. 
    Many of the Witnesses accomplishments are at the top of the field. For example, the website translated into 900+ languages, which universally wins high praise, (save for that from religious enemies). One sources gushed on about how Wikipedia, Google, and Apple combined do not come close, and what a staggering accomplishment the site was.
    Imagine if they knew that only rarely did persons involved have any 4-year college at all.
    You acquire your education via the moral training of God's counsel to us. When, later on, you find you need some specialized secular training, you go out and get it - a la carte. You need not subject yourself to the world's model where they get to unscrew your head, pour in their accumulated wisdom, and screw it back on again. Their wisdom has not resulted in a fine world. Where it has resulted in fine things, it is usually technical know-how that you can pick up though other means without all the baggage. The world makes it challenging to get education this way, but with planning it can be done.
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    tromboneck reacted to Julie Bayley in EXHIBITION OF TNM BIBLES IN WARWICK, WORLD CENTER ! Did you hear by Meeting ? from *2018* is finished with our LITERATURE ;-(   
    The letter was read at Mid week meeting re changes. Literature reduced so we concentrate on being teachers rather than deliverers of placements but certainly not finishing. 
    Looking forward to watching annual meeting to see more of the context & talks as 2016 talks for our encouragement were fab "expect the unexpected" 
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    tromboneck reacted to Arauna in Why doesn't the Society translate and provide the Russian Court Transcripts for us?   
    If they remain clean and without defilement they are OK.  Any subversive behavior, and other elders will look into it. ... and he/them may get "fired".   I have read stories on this forum how people were let go from Bethel.  No-one is above this.... and if they take too long to act..... Jehovah will!   Read the letters to the seven congregations in book of Revelation.  Jehovah and Jesus are watching everything..... Yes He is slow to anger - so trust HIM that he will sort things (if it is needed ) at the right time.  Of course he is not hypercritical as some people are - he remembers that we are flesh.  Some brothers are hypercritical when things are not done in the way they suggest.
    Too much fleshly thinking out here..... People do not trust Jehovah.  I have lived a long life in the truth and I have seen oppressive brothers and how they were given time to change..... but in the end Jehovah maneuvered things so cliques were destroyed.  As long as you just do what is right and not contribute with your death-dealing mouth to breaking down other people's faith!  Things sort themselves out without our own "important" views of when and how things should be managed.
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    tromboneck reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in 1989 Watchtower   
    Nope ... I run a "tight ship".
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    tromboneck reacted to Jack Ryan in 1989 Watchtower   
    January, 1989
    The apostle Paul was spearheading the Christian missionary activity. He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century." (w89 1/1 12 "The Hand of Jehovah Was With Them" [as originally published in the Watchtower magazine]).
    Rewritten
    "The apostle Paul was spearheading the Christian missionary activity. He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our day." (w89 1/1 12 "The Hand of Jehovah Was With Them" [as it appears in Watchtower bound volumes & CD-ROMs])
    [bold added]
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    tromboneck reacted to Rosalie Barry in 2017 Annual Meeting   
    Exactly. It was asked that nothing be posted on the internet not even notes. I think it is important to be obedient to the governing body.
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    tromboneck reacted to JW Insider in Saying "Peace and Security!" before sudden destruction. (1Th 5:3) What does it mean?   
    I think you just hit upon a very likely meaning of the verse. We've heard the counsel that it seems easier sometimes to endure persecution because we are focused on just that one thing, remaining faithful through the trouble. But when the persecution stops, more people lose focus and find it harder to remain faithful. Perhaps it's similar to one of the ideas in Matthew 6:
    (Matthew 6:22) 22 “The lamp of the body is the eye. If, then, your eye is focused, your whole body will be bright. (Matthew 6:25) . . .On this account I say to you: Stop being anxious about your lives as to what you will eat or what you will drink, or about your bodies as to what you will wear. Does not life mean more than food and the body than clothing?
     
     
     
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    tromboneck reacted to TrueTomHarley in Legal Protection Offered by JW.org   
    If someone from the 1950's was resurrected and began to complain how science had taken advantage of him - depriving him of a flat screen color TV whereas it hypocritically bestowed them upon later generations, would you say he had a valid point?
    Time marches on. New things come to light. Positions evolve. It happens everywhere. It is not a plot to work you over.
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    tromboneck reacted to Newsome in 2017 Annual Meeting   
    What I caught was not to tell what happened until others get a chance to see it tomorrow 
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    tromboneck reacted to JW Insider in 2017 Annual Meeting   
    These are the most significant changes I think we've ever seen at an Annual Metting even though all of the changes have already been part of a predictable trend for the last few years.
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