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What did John the Baptist wear when telling folks to repent while he was in the desert? 
Oh, so lemming mentality is just fine with you? The Hare Krishna shave their heads like monks do, is that the same then? Should you be shaving your head because these guys do? 
 
Are you equating clothing and money extortion in God's house? I'm pretty sure I didn't read that part about Jesus making a whip to whip those in tight pants or who wore a beard......err wait, didn't Jesus wear a beard? 
 
Tell that to the beggars Jesus visited and ate with and healed. 

Then why is it asked in a judicial committee for apostasy if you believe that the gb is the faithful and discrete slave? 

What did John the Baptist wear when telling folks to repent while he was in the desert? 
Oh, so lemming mentality is just fine with you? The Hare Krishna shave their heads like monks do, is that the same then? Should you be shaving your head because these guys do? 
 
Are you equating clothing and money extortion in God's house? I'm pretty sure I didn't read that part about Jesus making a whip to whip those in tight pants or who wore a beard......err wait, didn't Jesus wear a beard? 
 
Tell that to the beggars Jesus visited and ate with and healed. 

The GB are at LEAST totally aware of that.
They are TOTALLY DESTROYING their credibility on every subject imaginable.
THAT'S why shunning forbids people to talk to each other.

Who inspected the tightness of their trousers ?  No one. 
Who asked them if they masterbated and told them not to ? No one.
There were more important issues then. 
It seems as if there are no really important issues now, so the GB are making things up to keep themselves  busy. 
 
 

Should we make the Brothers and Sisters who won the genetic lottery, the ones who are handsome and beautiful, beat themselves in the face with a steel rod until they resemble the rest of us ... and the ones who CAN wear standard body type attractive clothing wear frumpy and dumpy clothing instead?
They ALREADY want the children's ice-cream money .... and use cartoons to get it!
What's next?

Are but who's choice of modesty ? Oh of course the GB's and the Elders.  
Maybe what Jehovah wants of every one is a bit of individuality.    
Are I've just noticed you say 'JW' standards, not God's standards. 

@Space Merchant  True Christian JW's are supposed to 'quit being fashioned after this system of things' and put away national identities and embrace the JW culture above all.
There is NO place for such nationalistic pride within the JW community. But that is for another discussion.
Meanwhile... no skirts above the knee for sisters!!!
AND while we are at it.... those tight pants... FORBIDDEN!!!
"You must be perfect". or else.... sisters will gossip about you as in the illustration above.
Welcome to the mentally warped world of JW fashion and life. Hypocrisy at its best.

Then why is it asked in a judicial committee for apostasy if you believe that the gb is the faithful and discrete slave? 

I agree with you that this lawyer is lying. I understand the policy as well and I think you stated it precisely how it is to be applied. The only problem I have is that Mr. Jackson didn't explain it as well as you just did when he was under oath in Australia. Mr. Jackson stated that normal family relations continue, just not spiritual ones. How is this not also lying? Mr. Jackson knows the truth, exactly as you stated it, since he approved it, but yet decides to lie in court under oath? How can an honest person follow the lead of such person(s)? 

And here lies the crux of the matter. This is exactly what the gb wants of the rank and file, for them to believe exactly what we are talking about. You may or may not be the exception and I would be naive to think there are not others who hold the same thoughts, but the fact of the matter is that this is exactly what the gb and the wt wants. They want no one to question their view and not to speak about it to others who may have the same feelings, because then there might be a change that was not from the top down but rather from the bottom up. This would disrupt the ivory tower they have created for themselves. I can tell you are sincere in your words,beliefs and your treatment of others and I share many of the same thoughts as you, I just don't hold the gb's point of view as being from God. 
Thank you JW Insider for all that you contribute here and for helping us to understand the gb point of view when we ask. 

And here lies the crux of the matter. This is exactly what the gb wants of the rank and file, for them to believe exactly what we are talking about. You may or may not be the exception and I would be naive to think there are not others who hold the same thoughts, but the fact of the matter is that this is exactly what the gb and the wt wants. They want no one to question their view and not to speak about it to others who may have the same feelings, because then there might be a change that was not from the top down but rather from the bottom up. This would disrupt the ivory tower they have created for themselves. I can tell you are sincere in your words,beliefs and your treatment of others and I share many of the same thoughts as you, I just don't hold the gb's point of view as being from God. 
Thank you JW Insider for all that you contribute here and for helping us to understand the gb point of view when we ask. 

but isn't that exactly what the publications state? That they ARE. 
"They do not claim that this slave class is infallible, but they do view it as the one channel that the Lord is using during the last days of this system of things." Proclaimers p.626
"It is vital that we appreciate this fact and respond to the directions of the "slave" as we would to the voice of God, because it is His provision." Watchtower 1957 Jun 15 p.370
"Today, Jehovah provides instruction by means of "the faithful steward." Pay Attention to Yourself and to All The Flock p.13
Isn't it a disfellowshipping offence to not believe that the gb is the faithful and discrete slave?

But the requirement of jws is to adhere to ALL teachings of wt unless you would like to lose your family or in the case of not having family, be expelled. This is the case even if you know in your heart that you are correct, to keep up with the gb chariot, one must believe what they say verses what the Bible tells them.  Again, the Bible warns against such things, juts as you pointed out at Matt 23:1-3. 

How in the world could the gb and the wt make this determination? If the Bible is our guide, as it should be, then you cannot wish away the words written in them. Jesus said in Matthew 28:18 " And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me."    How can ALL authority be given both in Heaven and Earth and this not be the King?
And I agree with your supporting scriptures (1 Tim 6:15 and Rev 1), the only caveat is that Rev is what John saw in the future. 

And here lies the crux of the matter. This is exactly what the gb wants of the rank and file, for them to believe exactly what we are talking about. You may or may not be the exception and I would be naive to think there are not others who hold the same thoughts, but the fact of the matter is that this is exactly what the gb and the wt wants. They want no one to question their view and not to speak about it to others who may have the same feelings, because then there might be a change that was not from the top down but rather from the bottom up. This would disrupt the ivory tower they have created for themselves. I can tell you are sincere in your words,beliefs and your treatment of others and I share many of the same thoughts as you, I just don't hold the gb's point of view as being from God. 
Thank you JW Insider for all that you contribute here and for helping us to understand the gb point of view when we ask. 

And here lies the crux of the matter. This is exactly what the gb wants of the rank and file, for them to believe exactly what we are talking about. You may or may not be the exception and I would be naive to think there are not others who hold the same thoughts, but the fact of the matter is that this is exactly what the gb and the wt wants. They want no one to question their view and not to speak about it to others who may have the same feelings, because then there might be a change that was not from the top down but rather from the bottom up. This would disrupt the ivory tower they have created for themselves. I can tell you are sincere in your words,beliefs and your treatment of others and I share many of the same thoughts as you, I just don't hold the gb's point of view as being from God. 
Thank you JW Insider for all that you contribute here and for helping us to understand the gb point of view when we ask. 

It is a dangerous thing to tell someone they may not pray with their family members if they are disfellowshipped.

I hope your little personal attacks make you feel better.

Boring boring boring. But it's a hiding place for you all I suppose. 
Frightened of someone that is a bit assertive (not aggressive). 
A place to have your ears tickled. I think that is mentioned in God's word. 
I agree that arguments are pointless, but a bit of lively discussion never hurt anyone  
And at the very end I laughed to read 'No one is allowed to talk against the gods' sorry the GB.

I agree with you that this lawyer is lying. I understand the policy as well and I think you stated it precisely how it is to be applied. The only problem I have is that Mr. Jackson didn't explain it as well as you just did when he was under oath in Australia. Mr. Jackson stated that normal family relations continue, just not spiritual ones. How is this not also lying? Mr. Jackson knows the truth, exactly as you stated it, since he approved it, but yet decides to lie in court under oath? How can an honest person follow the lead of such person(s)? 

Interesting point John, I mean if the "closed" club is only comprised of jws that support the gb and the wt, then what is there to discuss? They all nod their head to the same line of reasoning or lack there of. So no progression in thought, only regurgitation of what the gb says. What a boring forum that would be. 

Questions for Geoffrey Jackson from a Circuit Overseer:
01.) During the Australian Royal Comission in 2015, why did you deny that the Governing Body is gods only chosen spokesman for God? Isn't this apostasy? 
02.) Why were you forced via a subpoena to testify on the 8th day of the Australian Royal Comission? Shouldn't a true Christian with nothing to hide be eager to give a witness when required to do so?
03.) Why did you claim that you had no knowledge or that it wasn't your field to decide on policy for the Watchtower Corporation? 
04.) Why did the attorney Angus Stewart have to quote from the Branch Organization manual to prove that as a member of the Governing Body, you do indeed have knowledge and a share in forming policy for the Watchtower Corporation? 
05.) Why did you deny that the Watchtower Corporation is against physical discipline when in fact the Watchtower publication's agree with corporal punishment?
Please answer these questions as many have been disappointed including myself for supporting this Organization that I thought was guided by god' s spirit.
 

bah, I do not believe you. 
I believe you would talk to elders and then keep quiet so that you don't make Jehovah sad. 
That's policy, right? 

I agree with this by Revelation stating that heaven will come down and God will dwell with His people. 
wise decision and mine as well, because only God knows and if we seek Him, He will direct our paths. 
The Bible says you don't have to be. You can have your sins washed clean, right now. This is why Jesus died for us. If we come to Him and ask Him, He will wash us clean and take our blemishes and cast them away as far as the east is to the west so that you may stand before God and know you are covered.