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    Bible Speaks reacted to bruceq in APPEAL NOT ACCEPTED IN ONE MOSCOW COURT : Jehovah's Witnesses Launch Appeal Against Russia Ban   
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    ZAMOSKVORECHE COURT OF MOSCOW REFUSES TO CANCEL SUSPENSION OF ACTIVITY OF ADMINISTRATIVE CENTER OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES IN RUSSIA
    Portal-Credo.Ru, 24 April 2017
     
    The decision of the Russian Ministry of Justice regarding the suspension of the activity in Russia of the Administrative Center of Jehovah's Witnesses (JW) is legal, the Zamoskovoreche court of Moscow ruled on 24 April. The judicial proceedings were conducted against the background of the decision of the Russian Supreme Court to ban the activity of the Administrative Center of JW, which has still not taken effect.
     
    A former employee of the press service of the Administrative Center of JW in Russia, Ivan Belenko, told the website of Kavkazskii Uzel that the Zamoskvoreche district court denied the Administrative Center. "This trial became less relevant inasmuch as it challenged the act of suspension of the activity of our organization back before the issuance of the decision of the Russian Supreme Court. The results of the review of our lawsuit in the Zamoskvoreche court could hardly have an impact on anything," Ivan Belenko noted.
     
    Ivan Belenko recalled that on 5 April, on the first day of hearing the administrative case of the lawsuit of the Ministry of Justice in the Russian Supreme Court, a lawyer for the Administrative Center filed a petition to postpone the hearing until the resolution of the lawsuit in the Zamoskvoreche district court. However the petition was denied. "The filing of the lawsuit and its consideration in the Zamoskvoreche court could have had an impact if the Russian Supreme Court could postpone the hearings," Ivan Belenko added.
     
    "In all likelihood, the decision of the Supreme Court for liquidating the Administrative Center that was adopted earlier impacted the decision of the Zamoskvoreche district court. And this is evidence of a dangerous trend—following the Supreme Court, lower courts may take a course of subsequently denying Jehovah's Witnesses the protection of their constitutional rights," stated lawyer Anton Bogdanov, who represented the interests of the Administrative Center in the trial in the Zamoskvoreche district court.
     
    "However the Administrative Center is continuing to appeal the justice ministry's order. Inasmuch as by this order, which still is in effect, organizations were caused substantial losses and also deprived of the right to freedom of religious confession," Anton Bogdanov added.
     
    Bogdanov said that the decision of the Russian Supreme Court "has already led to consequences for the Jehovah's Witnesses. Law enforcement agencies are already making attempts to extend the action of the Supreme Court's decision for liquidation of a legal entity to simple believers, creating hindrances to their confessing their faith."
     
    According to their organization's data, Jehovah's Witnesses are registered and conduct religious activity in 240 independent or partially independent countries of the world. The total number of Jehovah's Witnesses in the world is 8.3 million persons, including about 170 thousand in Russia. (tr. by PDS, posted 24 April 2017)
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    NOTICE THIS POINT FROM OUR BROTHERS: ""This trial became less relevant inasmuch as it challenged the act of suspension of the activity of our organization back before the issuance of the decision of the Russian Supreme Court. The results of the review of our lawsuit in the Zamoskvoreche court could hardly have an impact on anything," Ivan Belenko noted.
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    Bible Speaks reacted to Bible Speaks in Jehovah, You Are My Refuge and Stronghold In Whom I Trust   
    2 "I will say to Jehovah: “You are my refuge and my stronghold,  My God in whom I trust.”
    Remain in the Secret Place of the Most High
    Jehovah’s “secret place” offers spiritual security
    91:1, 2, 
    Today, dedication and baptism are required for us to dwell in Jehovah’s secret place This place is unknown to those who do not trust in God Those in Jehovah’s secret place are not influenced by anyone and anything that could threaten their faith in God and love for him “The birdcatcher” attempts to trap us
    http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/202016283?q=ps+91%3A2&p=par
     
     

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    Bible Speaks reacted to Bible Speaks in The Blessing of Jehovah Makes Us Rich   
    (Proverbs 10:22)
    22 "It is the blessing of Jehovah that makes one rich, And He adds no pain* with it." ???????????

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    Bible Speaks reacted to Bible Speaks in You Should No Longer Go Walking Just As The Nations Do   
    "You should no longer go on walking just as the nations [do]."—Eph. 4:17.
    "Come, you who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for 
    you from the founding of the world." —
    Matt 25:34

    "No sigan ustedes andando tal como las naciones." Efes. 4:17
    "‘Vengan, ustedes que han sido bendecidos por mi Padre, hereden el reino preparado para ustedes desde la fundación del mundo." Mateo 25:34

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    Bible Speaks reacted to Bible Speaks in TRUMP WARNS RUSSIA OVER JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES This is fake news BEWARE   
    Yes I tweeted that,  only those two news sites had it and Trump has not replied only Witnesses. Propaganda to get attention? 
    ???????? He could care less! ?
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    Bible Speaks reacted to bruceq in TRUMP WARNS RUSSIA OVER JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES This is fake news BEWARE   
    This site is very strange
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    Bible Speaks reacted to bruceq in TRUMP WARNS RUSSIA OVER JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES This is fake news BEWARE   
    Ya lol the term is actually from U.S because of Trump so it has become a saying now among many here. Fortunately we have that recent article about "propaganda" that is apropos to all of this. "Winning the Battle for your Mind" in July study edition of the Watchtower. 
    But since this forum is called WORLD NEWS I figured peope can see the news and make there own decision. No reason to ban the media.
    Here is that article : https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-july-2017/propaganda-winning-battle-for-your-mind/
    Most of the article deals with apostate propaganda such as coming from the MOJ but the principles are useful.
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    Bible Speaks got a reaction from Queen Esther in TRUMP WARNS RUSSIA OVER JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES This is fake news BEWARE   
    Need two or three saying the same thing? If he doesn't want Mexicans in USA why jw's from Russia?? Does not make sense! I'll Search too. 
    http://russia.trendolizer.com/2017/04/trump-warns-russia-over-jehovahs-witnesses-ban-and-urges-members-to-seek-asylum-in-the-us.html
    is this like the Enquirer junk news? 
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    Bible Speaks got a reaction from Queen Esther in TRUMP WARNS RUSSIA OVER JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES This is fake news BEWARE   
    Yes I tweeted that,  only those two news sites had it and Trump has not replied only Witnesses. Propaganda to get attention? 
    ???????? He could care less! ?
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    Bible Speaks reacted to bruceq in RUSSIA: Jehovah’s Witnesses Mobilize Global Response to Threat of Ban in Russia   
    This is how I have illustrated the difference. Lets say you have the purpose to drive from Maine to Florida. Your plan to get there is to drive on Interstate 95. However an accident has occurred on route so you have to change the plan but your purpose is still to get to Florida. You have to change your plan as to how to get there. 
        Jehovah's original purpose was for humans to live forever on Earth. The plan was through Adam and Eve. However an "accident" happened {sin} and a new plan was initiated [Jesus - God's Kingdom] in order to accomplish the original purpose for humans to live forever on earth.
        Therefore it was never God's original purpose for anyone to "go to heaven", rather that is part of the plan because of the accident in enroute. God's purpose is still to go to the original "destination" a Paradise Earth filled with happy humans.
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    Bible Speaks reacted to bruceq in TRUMP WARNS RUSSIA OVER JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES This is fake news BEWARE   
    others seem to be saying this is fake also
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    Bible Speaks reacted to bruceq in TRUMP WARNS RUSSIA OVER JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES This is fake news BEWARE   
    It is fox24 news USA news but something is funny about it. I cannot copy and paste anything and links work starnge.
    it is also directly contradicting the Moscow Times article...I wouod avoid this site as no one else is reporting what they are claiming
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    Bible Speaks reacted to Bible Speaks in TRUMP WARNS RUSSIA OVER JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES This is fake news BEWARE   
    Need two or three saying the same thing? If he doesn't want Mexicans in USA why jw's from Russia?? Does not make sense! I'll Search too. 
    http://russia.trendolizer.com/2017/04/trump-warns-russia-over-jehovahs-witnesses-ban-and-urges-members-to-seek-asylum-in-the-us.html
    is this like the Enquirer junk news? 
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    Bible Speaks reacted to bruceq in APPEAL NOT ACCEPTED IN ONE MOSCOW COURT : Jehovah's Witnesses Launch Appeal Against Russia Ban   
    Tass is reporting that the appeal was not accepted so not sure about what is happening Monday???
     {MONDAY MEANS TODAY 24...IT WAS REJECTED BY COURT SEE BELOW]
    Moscow, RIA "Orenburg" .  Russia and the World April 24, 2017, 9:35 "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" APPEALED THE BAN TO WORK IN RUSSIA

      Zamoskvoretskiy Moscow court on Monday will consider the complaint at the disposal of Russian Ministry of Justice to suspend the activities of the parent organization "Jehovah's Witnesses" in Russia, which in the last week, the Supreme Court acknowledged extremist and liquidated, said court spokesman Emilia Gil.
    - The Court will hold a hearing on the merits of the statement of claim "Administrative Center of Jehovah's Witnesses to the Ministry of Justice, - said the spokesman.
    The Ministry of Justice issued a decree suspended the "Jehovah's Witnesses" to complete the process in the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation, where the Ministry to seek recognition of the organization extremist, its elimination and prohibition. Meanwhile, the Russian Federation Supreme Court has already satisfied the requirements of the Ministry of Justice and Home banned organization "Jehovah's Witnesses" in Russia, recognizing it as the extremist. The court also decided to confiscate the property of the organization. Now the followers of "Jehovah's Witnesses" faces criminal responsibility for the continuation of its activities.
    As indicated by a lawyer agency work "Jehovah's Witnesses" generates threat protection of the rights and interests of the society and public safety. She referred to the court decisions that have recognized the 95 brochures "Jehovah's Witnesses" extremist, as well as the activities of eight organizations in the regions of Russia. company lawyers countered that the claims were brought to passages from the "Bible", in addition, the authorities did not reconsider the question of the presence of extremism in those leaflets after making changes to the law on such crimes.
    Ministry of Justice, in particular, imposes "Jehovah's Witnesses" to blame the refusal to accept blood transfusions. Meanwhile, the lawyers of the organization said that the refusal of blood transfusions is not extremism - of the act in the law on combating extremist activities there. He noted that the Ministry of Justice gave an example of only a single case where the doctors offered to parents are two alternative methods of treatment, one of which provided for a blood transfusion. But parents want to treat the child medication.
    "Administrative Center of Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia" - an umbrella organization branch manager "Jehovah's Witnesses" in the Russian Federation. In this religious organization regularly have problems with the law in Russia - from the court decisions banning the activity and the elimination of departments to penalties for possession of extremist materials.
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    Bible Speaks reacted to Bible Speaks in Moscow court turns down Jehovah’s Witnesses bid to fight Justice Ministry’s ban   
    @bruceq Jehovah wins! We will see how this will happen. Satan is just putting in fire for fire ? he's got to know how close he is to his end. ????
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    Bible Speaks reacted to bruceq in Moscow court turns down Jehovah’s Witnesses bid to fight Justice Ministry’s ban   
    Moscow court turns down Jehovah’s Witnesses bid to fight Justice Ministry’s ban
    World April 24, 16:08UTC+3
    On April 20, Russia’s Supreme Court declared Jehovah’s Witnesses to be an extremist organization Share 5               Russian administrative centre of Jehovah's Witnesses
    © Alexandr Demyanchuk/TASS MOSCOW, April 24. /TASS/. Moscow’s Zamoskvoretsky court has rejected a lawsuit filed by the Jehovah’s Witnesses religious group against the Justice Ministry’s ruling on banning its activity in Russia, a TASS correspondent reported from the courtroom.
    The organization asked the court to recognize the Justice Ministry’s ruling as illegal and order its cancellation. "The court decided to reject the lawsuit of the religious organization "Jehovah’s Witnesses Administrative Center in Russia," Judge Nelli Rubtsova said.
     
    READ ALSO Russia’s Supreme Court bans Jehovah’s Witnesses as extremist organization  
    On April 20, Russia’s Supreme Court declared Jehovah’s Witnesses to be an extremist organization and outlawed its activity throughout Russia, thereby upholding the Justice Ministry’s requests. The court declared the immediate shutdown of all 395 local chapters of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia and transferred the organization’s assets into state custody. Jehovah’s Witnesses said it would appeal the decision.
    In its lawsuit, the Justice Ministry pointed to various violations by the organization’s activities revealed during a surprise inspection, including of the Law on Counteracting Extremist Activities.
    On October 12, 2016, Moscow’s Tverskoy district court issued a warning to the Jehovah’s Witnesses Administrative Center based on revelations of extremism there. Under Russian law, a religious association or organization is subject to termination if it does not remedy the specified manifestations of extremism before the required deadline or displays any new ones.
    Jehovah’s Witnesses is an international religious organization that supports offbeat views on the essence of the Christian faith and provides special interpretations of many commonly accepted notions.


    More:
    http://tass.com/world/942943
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    Bible Speaks got a reaction from SHARON LEE MOYER in Draw Close to God A Fulfiller of Promises   
    "Not one word out of all the good promises that Jehovah your God has spoken to you has failed. They have all come true for you. Not one word of them has failed.".    (Joshua 23:14)
    Draw Close to God A Fulfiller of Promises
    IS IT hard for you to trust others? Sadly, we live in a world where trust is routinely destroyed. If you were hurt by someone you believed in—perhaps because of lies or broken promises—your trust may have been shattered. There is, however, someone you can trust without ever being disappointed. “Trust in Jehovah with all your heart,” Proverbs 3:5 urges us. Why is Jehovah deserving of such trust? To answer that, let us examine the words of Joshua—a man who put his complete trust in Jehovah—recorded at Joshua 23:14.
    Looking back on all that he has seen, Joshua has come to know that Jehovah fulfills His promises—always.* The implication is clear: Joshua wants his fellow Israelites to have absolute faith that all of Jehovah’s promises for their future will also come true.
    The Bible contains a record of God’s promises that have been fulfilled, including some that are being fulfilled before our very eyes. It also contains Jehovah’s wonderful promises for our future.
    Why not examine that record for yourself? A study of the Bible may convince you that the Fulfiller of promises is worthy of your trust.
    Here are a few of the promises, or assurances, that Joshua saw fulfilled. Jehovah would give Israel a land of their own. (Compare Genesis 12:7 with Joshua 11:23.) Jehovah would deliver Israel out of Egypt. (Compare Exodus 3:8 with Exodus 12:29-32.) Jehovah would sustain his people.—Compare Exodus 16:4, 13-15 with Deuteronomy 8:3, 4.
    http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2010008?q=josh+23%3A14&p=par

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    Bible Speaks got a reaction from bruceq in Why doesn't the Society translate and provide the Russian Court Transcripts for us?   
    Soon the whole earth will see who's in control. God's Words are true. I've done my homework and still studying. Remember, Jehovah doesn't lie only what you read below. One thought, 
    There are other lies from Satan that can fool us if we are not careful. Let us talk about three of these lies. The first lie is: You can do whatever you want; you decide what is right and what is wrong. We often hear this on television, in movies, in magazines, in newspapers, and on the Internet. Because we hear this lie all the time, it is easy for us to start to think that way and follow the immoral ideas of the world. But the truth is that we need God to tell us what is right and what is wrong. (Jeremiah 10:23) 
    The second lie is: God will never change anything on the earth. This idea makes people think only about today. They do not care about the future or about pleasing God. We might start to think like them and then become “inactive or unfruitful” in our service to God. (2 Peter 1:8) The truth is that Jehovah will soon change things on the earth, and we must show by the way we live that we really believe this. (Matthew 24:44) 
    The third lie is: God does not care about you. Satan wants us to believe that we are not good enough for God to love us. If Satan makes us believe this lie, we might stop serving Jehovah. The truth is that Jehovah loves each one of his servants, and each one is very important to him.—Matthew 10:29-31.
    http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/402011524?q=man+lies&p=par#h=19
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    Bible Speaks reacted to bruceq in Why doesn't the Society translate and provide the Russian Court Transcripts for us?   
    Sorry   I don't care to argue with apostates who use the same type of questioning that Satan used. The "Ministry of Justice is now being influenced by Dvorkin and other anti-cultist apostates and the trial clearly showed now for the world to see that they, all anti-cultist apostates, are all liars and have baseless claims. 
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    Bible Speaks reacted to Bible Speaks in Why doesn't the Society translate and provide the Russian Court Transcripts for us?   
    Soon the whole earth will see who's in control. God's Words are true. I've done my homework and still studying. Remember, Jehovah doesn't lie only what you read below. One thought, 
    There are other lies from Satan that can fool us if we are not careful. Let us talk about three of these lies. The first lie is: You can do whatever you want; you decide what is right and what is wrong. We often hear this on television, in movies, in magazines, in newspapers, and on the Internet. Because we hear this lie all the time, it is easy for us to start to think that way and follow the immoral ideas of the world. But the truth is that we need God to tell us what is right and what is wrong. (Jeremiah 10:23) 
    The second lie is: God will never change anything on the earth. This idea makes people think only about today. They do not care about the future or about pleasing God. We might start to think like them and then become “inactive or unfruitful” in our service to God. (2 Peter 1:8) The truth is that Jehovah will soon change things on the earth, and we must show by the way we live that we really believe this. (Matthew 24:44) 
    The third lie is: God does not care about you. Satan wants us to believe that we are not good enough for God to love us. If Satan makes us believe this lie, we might stop serving Jehovah. The truth is that Jehovah loves each one of his servants, and each one is very important to him.—Matthew 10:29-31.
    http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/402011524?q=man+lies&p=par#h=19
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    Bible Speaks reacted to bruceq in Why doesn't the Society translate and provide the Russian Court Transcripts for us?   
    Sorry   I don't care to argue with apostates who use the same type of questioning that Satan used. The "Ministry of Justice is now being influenced by Dvorkin and other anti-cultist apostates and the trial clearly showed now for the world to see that they, all anti-cultist apostates, are all liars and have baseless claims. 
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    Bible Speaks reacted to bruceq in Why doesn't the Society translate and provide the Russian Court Transcripts for us?   
    Shiwii said: "So what you are saying is that you also do not acknowledge Scientology as a religion as the Russians do. Some do some don't, ok. Then you are correct. If Scientology is not considered a religion, then it just doesn't count. Gotcha. It's all "apostate lies". 
       I don't care to argue with apostates who use the same type of questioning that Satan used. The "Ministry of Justice is now being influenced by Dvorkin and other anti-cultist apostates and the trial clearly showed now for the world to see that they, all anti-cultist apostates, are all liars and have baseless claims. Soon all of the World Empire of False Religion will be destroyed. That should bother you since you are a part of it.
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    Bible Speaks got a reaction from bruceq in ON THIS DATE APRIL, 24 1933 IN NAZI GERMANY: about the banning of Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia   
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zcnm82p
     

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