Anna

Thanks for your analysis JWI. All I can say is Satan has his grubby fingers in everything. It's hard to know what are facts and what is fake. So much corruption in every facet of life...

19 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

Concerning your faith community, granted their unfortunately situation in Russia, you think some of them will leave because of these warnings, take up that opportunity?

I have wondered about that too. Of course this is directed at citizens of other countries not Russians, so not sure how taking up that opportunity would work in practice because this would involve having to be granted  refugee status. I have heard that some (who could afford it financially) have fled Russia before now, but each country has their visa and immigration laws, so unless something changes and those fleeing are given refugee status they will have to go back after a few months....

1 hour ago, Matthew9969 said:

However if the plane was on fire I would help everyone on the plane get off the plane, not just my loved one.

Well of course. So you should. But the point is, you would help your loved ones FIRST.

16 minutes ago, Pudgy said:

The military decides who they will shoot at.

The rest of the people decide who they will shoot at.

……. Minimal or nonexistent accountability all the way around.

A bit like the wild west then 🐎

1 hour ago, Pudgy said:

Aphorism No. 328.

”Never let a crisis go to waste”

Martial Law allows EVERYBODY to shoot at each other.

Ok, stop laughing at me. I thought it was the military who decides who can shoot at who...

10 hours ago, JW Insider said:

I don't necessarily agree with this man's opinions, but what he says reminds me of similar reports in recent years from Bosnia, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Sudan, etc. Unfortunately, these kinds of issues do occur too frequently, and on top of the horrors (and errors) of war.

I'm a bit skeptical about this guy. He's American and as an American he will have American views. Before I came to live in the USA I never heard about gangs in Europe, at least not to the extent he is talking about. Europeans don't have that American gang mentality. There is of course organized crime, but I don't think that's the issue here, because organized criminals already have guns. I doubt that while martial law is in effect they would go around shooting each other.

8 hours ago, Thinking said:

18 hours ago, Anna said:

I don't know who the KON was supposed to be in the 18th century....

 

Well it appears it was nobody......for nearly 2 000 years. The prophecy applies to the time of the end, that's what I was trying to say.

As Arauna says: The King of the North appears again after Jesus was crowned*...

(it won't let me quote from more than one post. It used to be possible.....what happened? @The Librarian)

*Of course JWI would say this was in the first century

1 hour ago, Thinking said:

Why?…they were active..but I’m not sure I have understood  your question 

I'm sorry. What I should have simply said is that Russia was not the king KON in colonial times, it only became the KON in the time of the end. Before the first world War the KON was Germany I believe and Anglo America has always been the king of the south. I don't know who the KON was supposed to be in the 18th century....

16 hours ago, Thinking said:

es I find it very confusing..ever since I came into the truth over forty years I have never understood this…America and England have ruled over so many lands with unbelievable power  and extreme cruelty..just take Australia alone..they decimated a beautiful people to gain that country…Russia didnt….Africa..the same…Even India was ruled by English for a time and in modern times they decimated so many middle eastern countries…but Russia didn’t…so I have to ask what lands has he flooded over

Wasn't the KON supposed to make its appearance in the last days? (since 1914). In that case, Colonial America and Britain wouldn't count.

13 hours ago, JW Insider said:

Aaron Mate, makes some of his best points here below, very succinctly, even though you'd have to go to his own videos and interviews to get the longer version of his perspective:

It seems to me that with Putin its all about the Donbas, and making himself and Russia great again, and with America it’s all about the money/resources (according to the video). I have heard it said (besides this video) that America was intentionally egging on this Russia/Ukraine conflict for its own benefit. If this were the case, why did Putin fall for it? Or if not aware of this until later, why hasn’t he pointed a finger at America, and accuse America of “starting" the war?  (or did he?). Even listening to Maria Zakharova’s (Spokeswoman for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia) emotional rant (in response to a British journalist’s question) about how no one cared when the UK killed innocent civilians in Iraq etc. and didn’t care about innocent civilians (children, women and the elderly) killed in the Donbas region by "Nazi" militants for 8 years.

So all I seem to have heard from the Russian side is the Donbas reason. Wouldn’t this be the perfect opportunity to talk about the pipeline and how America does not care about people but only cares about money? So, I am wondering if this is completely true.

Pardon my ignorance on this topic.

11 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Namely, "Christians" are called to follow world events and try to determine where they are with regard to "prophecies". Even WT magazine talks about the purpose of publishing in the introduction.

That's right. So it's in what context these discussions take place that matters. I need to explain that to Dmitar as well obviously.

18 minutes ago, Dmitar said:

They expect us to vote in elections. However, we realize that from Jehovah’s standpoint, if we choose a human leader to rule over us, we are rejecting Him.

We are not voting for anyone and we are not choosing a human leader. We are just having a discussion. Just yesterday in field service the group was having a similar discussion. Of course we know ultimately Jehovah will set matters straight. It's such a no brainer. We are not taking sides with politicians by discussing what's happening in the world right now. Don't let your misguided thoughts mislead you. 

31 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

In retaliation for the US doing the same in Turkey and Italy.

Thanks. Just shows how much I know. But it does confirm what I have always said. Big children playing in a sand pit. I've watched them, that is real children, when I used to take my son to the park. Some of these little ones got real aggressive with their little trucks and buckets and spades. It became a tit for tat battle. 

An interesting podcast interview with Nina Khrushcheva on Putin:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2tTjibdYwBJYDems73h1YE?si=Rzgv8KX1TZyPqTdZ3rp-9A

10 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

So why is it here on the JW page, which should be discussing spiritual matters not politics. 

The open JW club is not really a JW page. The JW page is in the closed club. 

1 hour ago, TrueTomHarley said:

) Krushchev’s telegram to Kennedy during the missile crisis has the distinct air of walking a more inexperienced leader back from the edge.

I don't know....why was Krushchev planting all those missiles in Cuba in the first place? So that he could then walk an inexperienced leader back from the edge?

22 hours ago, Randy Lee Manning said:

Hitler: "For months the Germans in Sudetenland have been suffering under the torture of the Czechoslovak government

That was a pretext, an excuse to take over the whole country. Just like Donbas is a pretext for Putin to take the whole of the Ukraine. 

Added: In any case, even if we try to excuse Hitler's actions with regard to the Sudetenland, later developments show what kind of a person he really was. 

2 hours ago, ComfortMyPeople said:

But, look, I think there is a lot of evidence that the USA is the king of the north

I don't know.....it seems to me that who the king of the North is will be evident at the last moment, at the point of divine intervention. We used to say Russia was the king of the North during the cold War, (we expected the end to come soon) then when the cold War ended we said Russia was no longer the king of the North.....and now he is the King of the North again. What if Putin is removed and a democracy is put in place in Russia, and China starts misbehaving? Will China then be the king of the North? I'm just thinking out aloud....

2 hours ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

YHWH and to Yeshua

I see patiently sitting on his hands has gone Jewish

14 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Do you get your own lawn chair?

It's the beer I'm worried about

I don't think they get paid for this, I think they do it for free....just like everyone else who does any work for the org. if they're a JW.

57 minutes ago, Thinking said:

I do notice no practising witness comments on these sorts of posts

Recently we have been commenting more on topics in the closed JW only club...

2 hours ago, Dmitar said:

This is why you can't keep secrets from people that have known all along. You just proved him a liar and yourself.

You have zero sense of humour 

53 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:

They are not happy with the copies.

I don't think it's about that. It's about: "My brothers died for refusing to participate in military service,” Paul-Gerhard Kusserow said. “I don’t find it proper that this inheritance is stored, of all places, in a military museum.”

2 hours ago, JW Insider said:

At least the article doesn't do what so many have done in other media outlets (and social media, of course) which is to just simply lie about what a person has said or done in order to make them look less credible.

Yes, that's why I thought it wasn't a bad article overall, but as you pointed out "but the article also stretches the truth. Just enough to make you question and doubt". That's if the reader isn't really paying attention to the author's agenda. This is one those types of articles that I think are useful if you can separate the bias from the facts it presents. I liked that it admits that Malone did have a hand in inventing the mRNA and supports this with the reference to Rein Verbeke's seminal work in the field of gene transfer in his article a 2019 history of mRNA-vaccine development. It is then up to the reader to decide whether it was fair for other articles to say in broad statements that hundreds of scientists had a hand in this. Which is true of course, but someone had to pioneer this and it was evidently Dr. Malone and his team back in 1989. This was the one area I was trying to find some facts about and this article helped in that. It drives me nuts when I see obvious bias of someone trying to discredit someone else with these kind of broad statements and it's great when you can go back in time and read facts that were written years before the issue was raised. Which makes me think that there is so much more out there and hopefully eventually the truth will be evident. He (Dr. Malone) did mention towards the end (around the 2hr 50 mark) that these are unprecedented crazy times in many respects. This does give further support to the Bible's end times. And by the way the video has been taken down on YouTube. Grrrr...I had wanted to download it before this happened.

Edit: I found it on spotify, yay!