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3 hours ago, JW Insider said:
[Walter]: Since you seem to follow people by their IP address or have messaging with them, it should have been obvious instead of making such a big production to impress!!
I’m going to get a spoof IP address and make him think I’m posting from Putin’s palace.
- JW Insider, Anna and Pudgy
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15 minutes ago, Thinking said:
Oh thank you as I hadn’t a clue…I do remember outta here..but I thought that was from another forum…I don’t go back as most of you on this forum,,,,so thanks for setting me straight…much appreciated
He was a good guy. I’m sorry he’s gone.
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42 minutes ago, JW Insider said:
There is one other consideration. I prefer to share opinions where they can be challenged from anyone, not just the dozen or so people who regularly participate in the Closed Club.
For a long time this carried the day with me as well, but in time I grew tired with the quality and predictability of the challenges.
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2 hours ago, JW Insider said:
But one should be warned that the author, Rud Persson (pronounced Rude Person
Alan (either one, either spelling) wrote a book?
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2 hours ago, JW Insider said:
Anyway, the whole book title is: Rutherford's Coup: The Watchtower Succession Crisis of 1917 and Its Aftermath
If it is Rutherford’s coup and much too expensive are you sure it is not really Perrson’s coup?
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23 minutes ago, JW Insider said:
but he probably doesn't realize that this kind of thing doesn't really work when there so many other giveaways, including a complete inability to "clothe himself with a new personality."
Answering critics, some apologist said that to make up a character as complex as Jesus would be more miraculous than simply accepting there was such a man. In a perverse and opposite kind of way….
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3 hours ago, Pudgy said:
In Missouri they gauge a man’s value by how many cars he has in his front yard, up on blocks … and what he listened to on AM radio from 12 to 3.
I’m told if your home is mobile but the 6 vehicles on your lawn are not, you just might be from Missouri.
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9 minutes ago, xero said:...that reminds me...if we're supposed to accept the kingdom like little children, does that also follow that every five minutes we can whine "how many more miles is it?"...and "are we there yet? I'm hungry!"...."I have to pee!"
“If you kids don’t stop whining back there I’m going to stop this car and give you something to whine about!” my dad would holler on long trips. At the time I thought he was mean. But as time goes by I’ve come to appreciate that sometimes that’s exactly the right answer to give.
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52 minutes ago, xero said:
Have you ever wondered how many of our number are jealous socialist commies at heart?
Yeah, like that pinko David foisting his ‘share equally’ plan upon the ‘bad and worthless’ men:
However, every bad and worthless man among those who had gone with David said: “Since they did not go with us, we will not give them any of the spoil that we recovered except that each one may take his wife and his sons and go away.” 23 But David said: “You must not do this, my brothers, with what Jehovah has given us. He protected us and gave into our hand the marauder band that came against us. 24 Who would agree with you on this? The share of the one who went down into the battle will be the same as the share of the one who sat by the baggage. All will have a share. 1 Samuel 30:22-24.
Sometimes you have to reign in your bad and worthless men.
52 minutes ago, xero said:if we want figs and houses, we'll have to plant them ourselves and build them ourselves and not just get some kingdom govt. EBT cards and free-loader housing.
Often I would say of the LDC bro in our congregation, “yeah—don’t kid yourselves. Pete’s gonna make us all live in dormitories.”
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6 hours ago, JW Insider said:
I remembered something from the last episode where Trump says something about himself that reminded me of something Russell said about himself.
“I alone can fix this?”
No, I guess not.
- JW Insider, Pudgy and Anna
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12 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:
Bur hey, two 'sisters' I knew liked Meatloaf 'Bat Out of Hell' and an Elder I knew liked Queen 'Bohemian Rhapsody'.
I suppose it's all ok-ish if you just like the basic sound and not the actual words.
Actually, if you listen to the words of ‘Sympathy for the Devil’ they are not objectionable at all. They are an exposure of the Devil’s M. O, the great wickedness people are capable of.
But I had to draw the line somewhere. I couldn’t very well gush on about ‘Sympathy for the Devil,’ as though I were a fan. Nor did I listen to the words for many decades, so it took me forever to realize just what the theme was.
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36 minutes ago, Pudgy said:
Of course, there is “How to Teach Your Baby to Read”, by Glen Doman,
We went through all the Glenn Doman’s number cards with our babies, I am convinced to good effect—and even in the event it was not it was fun and took almost no time.
At one point, following a Doman cue, we asked our infant to pick up 57, as opposed to 56 and 58, dots all mixed up with no underlying pattern—the number written on the back so you would know. Instantly he did. But Doman said you can’t do it twice; infants get bored and they will not do it for show. Sure enough, when we tried, he would not.
Coincidence? Dunno. It was a one out of three chance, after all, so coincidence is certainly possible. But he reached for it instantly, with no hesitation at all.
The point was, in building your baby’s ‘better’ brain (Yikes!—Building Back Better) that if you see 3 or 4 cows in the field you instantly read them for their true number, but at some point you must start counting, 1…2…3…4…5…. The idea with the flash cards for an infant’s rapidly expanding brain was that you could push way up that point at which you had to start counting; that it could take in 56 at a glance. Doman’s flash cards went up to 100.
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4 hours ago, Pudgy said:Well, it’s been about nine hours since someone other than myself made a comment
Poor boy. Here’s a bone for you. I wasn’t sure this pic had a use but it seems it might work here:
Sheesh! What a bunch of nut cakes! As goofy as any nasty here
Never have I seen Jehovah’s Witnesses listed directly below Gangsta Rappers.
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58 minutes ago, WalterPrescott said:
When the barrel of gas sunk to below minus six dollars a barrel
It was my undoing. I struck oil on my property around that time and consequentially found I owed millions of dollars.
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46 minutes ago, Srecko Sostar said:
I guess those who drive longer and pay more gasoline for more kilometers. :))
“And gas prices rose. David was very distressed because the worldmedianewsforum perennial gripers were talking of stoning him, for all the men had become very bitter over their KH sold to build 50 in developing lands, making them drive further, and they wanted to stone him for a million other reasons too. But David strengthened himself by Jehovah his God. (1 Samuel 30: 5-6) #freewheelingversion.
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5 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:
After the volunteer workers invest their labor and money in building the JW hall, GB sells it and keeps the money in the corporation.
If they sell it, it’s because the sale of one underperforming Hall in the West can fund the building of 50 in developing lands where they are clamoring for them. So someone has a longer drive twice a week so that 50X friends overseas have a place to meet? Who would object to that?
Notice how the “bad and worthless” men objected when David proposed a similar equalizing scheme:
“However, every bad and worthless man among those who had gone with David said: “Since they did not go with us, we will not give them any of the spoil that we recovered except that each one may take his wife and his sons and go away.” But David said: “You must not do this, my brothers, with what Jehovah has given us. He protected us and gave into our hand the marauder band that came against us. “
Why would you promote being bad and worthless?
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1 hour ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:
OK, so i admit i have no idea what your number 42 means. Will you explain please.
It’s the 42 anointed who met together after they were ordered not to in order to baptize without asking each other a ton of questions.
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18 hours ago, Anna said:I had a class mate at school who believed in Jesus whole heartedly. She slept around and smoked.
Yes, of course. Believing in Jesus whole-heartedly doesn’t mean beans in itself—unless you define “whole-heartedly” as embracing the scriptures you included:
18 hours ago, Anna said:; “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works* in your name?’ And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’"
AND "Furthermore, everyone hearing these sayings of mine and not doing them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand".
Though the crazy faux-anointed person here appends scriptures to her comments for tonnage, she can never find the relevant ones, as you have.
When it comes to who will be saved, the Christian organization is not authorized to go beyond what the scripture plainly says:
“Baptism, which corresponds to this, is also now saving you…” (1 Peter 3:21)
If they have any private thoughts on this, those they must keep to themselves. Of course, baptism assumes doing it the biblical way, not the sprinkled baptism of infants, not the baptism to the hellfire/trinity God.
The governing brothers choose not to speculate on this matter. They choose to be bounded by 1 Peter 3:21. We, who do not have a worldwide association of brothers to coach, (though Her Craziness thinks she does) are freer to speculate. When a loved one of mine was asked specifically whether this one or that one will be saved, she replied that she was not Jesus and didn’t know.
The organization does the best it can. Not all scriptures dovetail. It remains to be seen how certain things will work out. “You will by no means complete the circuit of the cities of Israel until the Son of man arrives.” (Matt 10:23) throws a monkey wrench into worldwide coverage. This verse has been cited to show not every person will be adequately reached, maybe not at all, so the question arises just what is God going to do about that come Armageddon? From what I can recall, they only gingerly touch that one. (They have said in the past that the mentally incompetent should get a free pass, so maybe we’re all okay here.)
At any rate, the Watchtower statement to carry the day is easily found on the website. To the question, “Do Jehovah’s Witnesses feel they are the only ones who will be saved?” included in the answer is: “In any case, it’s not our job to judge who will or won’t be saved. That assignment rests squarely in Jesus’ hands.” If they have seemed to judge in the past, it’s because they don’t feel free to blow away1 Peter 3:21 as though it were nothing.
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/who-saved/
Then, too, from the Insight book (under the topic Destruction) comes this beaut, that indicates we don’t even know ones destroyed by Jehovah suffer eternal destruction:
The Bible indicates that not all destruction is eternal. This is demonstrated by the fact that the Hebrew word ʼavad·dohnʹ (destruction) is used twice to parallel “Sheol.” (Job 26:6; Pr 15:11) ….When speaking of the destruction of the rebels Dathan and Abiram, Moses wrote that they went down “alive into Sheol.” (Nu 16:31, 33) Since Sheol in the Bible denotes the common grave of mankind from which there will be a resurrection, it is evident that not all destruction—not even all destruction at the hand of God—is necessarily eternal.
So even Patiently Sitting on his Hands, that piece of work, who thinks he will not survive Armageddon and assumes that gives him the stature to advise others….well, maybe he is right and he won’t survive and still I’ll see that dodo on the other side someday, in which case I’ll take back the bad things I’ve said about him and maybe he’ll do the same with me.
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48 minutes ago, xero said:
To me this is why I don't sweat it when someone says that I gave a "bad witness". I try not to, but it's going to happen and happen repeatedly
From what I hear the local saying is, “Dan has killed his thousands and xero his tens of thousands.”
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Ha! Right in the title we see how JWI is playing with us all, up to his old tricks of putting the cart before the horse:
How a Christmas song would lead me to beleive that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.
Is it “I before E except after L?” I don’t think so.
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4 minutes ago, xero said:We're fooling ourselves if we imagine that there will always be tangible external evidence which we can point to and say "See! They rejected the truth!"
Sure. I have no idea who will be saved or not. Nor does it make any difference to my personal responsibility to make known the good news.
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56 minutes ago, Pudgy said:
PSomH: “
Ha Ha More click bait from little tommy.”The boxed “quote” is an example of false, manufactured “documentation”. The added sentence I made up to show how false attribution can be done.
Tell the dodo it couldn’t have been click bait because there was no place given for anyone to click.
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At the Convention of Magnificent Internet Moguls Mr. Admin casually boasts to his neighbor, “Seen the latest off-the-chart stats of the Wordwide News Media Forum?”
”Big deal, they’re all religious nuts,” comes the answer. Talk to me when you have people who don’t think the earth is flat.”
That old hen.