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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from César Chávez in Conscience individual and collective   
    you have all the propriety of the hangman who is offended by the word s**t
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Arauna in MISUSE OF THE WORD HOMOSEXUAL IN THE HEBREW WRITINGS.   
    Yes. Do a little research on 1 Corinthians 6:9-12 and you will see two categories in the list of those who will not inherit the kingdom, “men kept for unnatural purposes,” and “men who lie with men.” The first has particular reference to a young man or boy specifically kept for sexual purposes. The is was extremely common in the ancient world, in nearly all places except among the Jews.
    This is the expression, “men kept for unnatural purposes,” that would fit pedophelia. The first, “men who lie with men,” is plain, regular, homosexuality. As you suspected, there is a movement among those who practice the gay life to “interpret away” verses that condemn their actions. I think what you son has come across are such efforts.
    The Hebrew Scriptures also cover both, not just one, pedophilia and homosexuality.
    Leviticus 18:22 is homosexuality: “And you must not lie down with a male the same as you lie down with a woman. It is a detestable thing.”
    Leviticus 18:10: pedophllia: “As for the nakedness of the daughter of your son or the daughter of your daughter, you must not lay bare their nakedness, because they are your nakedness.”
    Two separate things. They are not the same.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Conscience individual and collective   
    you have all the propriety of the hangman who is offended by the word s**t
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Conscience individual and collective   
    You dodo, you are repeating an incendiary media headline. 
    We can depend upon it to be stated as inflammatory as they know how, for that is how the press operates when they get ahold of something juicy. 
    Nonetheless, just for the sake of argument, let us assume that everything was exactly as stated.
    Do you know how many “hanging judges” were in the American West, with their counterparts even today? Do you know how many judges are incompetent even now? Do you know how many trial verdicts are reversed upon appeal because the judge did something wrong?
    Any time or any place you put humans in the mix you will get errors, even shocking ones. Maybe that is the case here. In any assemblage of several million people, you will find many examples of anything.
    Pray to God for his direct handling of your issues and he will say he has underlings to handle your problem. Complain to him that the underlings are imperfect and he will observe that you are no great shakes yourself. 
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Pudgy in Conscience individual and collective   
    You dodo, you are repeating an incendiary media headline. 
    We can depend upon it to be stated as inflammatory as they know how, for that is how the press operates when they get ahold of something juicy. 
    Nonetheless, just for the sake of argument, let us assume that everything was exactly as stated.
    Do you know how many “hanging judges” were in the American West, with their counterparts even today? Do you know how many judges are incompetent even now? Do you know how many trial verdicts are reversed upon appeal because the judge did something wrong?
    Any time or any place you put humans in the mix you will get errors, even shocking ones. Maybe that is the case here. In any assemblage of several million people, you will find many examples of anything.
    Pray to God for his direct handling of your issues and he will say he has underlings to handle your problem. Complain to him that the underlings are imperfect and he will observe that you are no great shakes yourself. 
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Pudgy in Conscience individual and collective   
    Ever wonder from where the reports came that early Christians went in for cannibalism? 
    “He that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in union with me, and I in union with him. ...
    Therefore many of his disciples, when they heard this, said: “This speech is shocking; who can listen to it?”  (From John 6)
    Jesus faithful disciples cut him slack for that statement.. 
    And that is with a perfect man. Don’t get me going with the imperfect ones, which I will not assemble for you, because you will, as usual, find them “all so funny.”
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Modern Society and Censorship   
    “It used to be that being crazy meant something. Nowadays, everyone is crazy” - Charles Manson
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Conscience individual and collective   
    Ever wonder from where the reports came that early Christians went in for cannibalism? 
    “He that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in union with me, and I in union with him. ...
    Therefore many of his disciples, when they heard this, said: “This speech is shocking; who can listen to it?”  (From John 6)
    Jesus faithful disciples cut him slack for that statement.. 
    And that is with a perfect man. Don’t get me going with the imperfect ones, which I will not assemble for you, because you will, as usual, find them “all so funny.”
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Conscience individual and collective   
    Every so often I should probably repeat the following, though none of it sinks in:
    It is part of the package. If God is worth his salt, he will provide adequate human leadership. He will not leave his worshipers rudderless, each prey to whatever worldly trends are cresting in their particular time and area. He will provide adequate shepherding. Go to the world of churches if you want rudderless, if you are content with each one simply building his own personal relationship with God, and enjoy whatever “unity” you find there.
    Jehovah’s people will cut their shepherds some slack, just as was necessary in the first century, because they are human. But they also recognize that these ones will be relentlessly attacked simply for the Christian shepherding work that they do.
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Conscience individual and collective   
    Well—they are horrible scrappers, those two.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Conscience individual and collective   
    There is scarcely anyone on the planet that does not have one of these posh phones these day.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from xero in Conscience individual and collective   
    Every so often I should probably repeat the following, though none of it sinks in:
    It is part of the package. If God is worth his salt, he will provide adequate human leadership. He will not leave his worshipers rudderless, each prey to whatever worldly trends are cresting in their particular time and area. He will provide adequate shepherding. Go to the world of churches if you want rudderless, if you are content with each one simply building his own personal relationship with God, and enjoy whatever “unity” you find there.
    Jehovah’s people will cut their shepherds some slack, just as was necessary in the first century, because they are human. But they also recognize that these ones will be relentlessly attacked simply for the Christian shepherding work that they do.
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Conscience individual and collective   
    What do you mean he was misled by sloppy bible teaching? He belonged to a congregation and he deliberately left it. Was there no one there who knew accurate bible teaching? Is there anyone on the planet who does besides you?
    You who live to argue, this has nothing to do with argument. It is almost entirely a matter of heart.
    It’s not our fault, you donkey. We try to work with you door to door because we know that you understand the things that we do not. But you are never available. You are always here arguing, not only with those who hate the faith, but with those who love it.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Conscience individual and collective   
    Well, it is not exactly as though 4Jah is hanging on my every word.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from xero in Conscience individual and collective   
    Well, it is not exactly as though 4Jah is hanging on my every word.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in Conscience individual and collective   
    Well, it is not exactly as though 4Jah is hanging on my every word.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IS IT GOOD FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE THE BIBLE ?   
    Witness. Good idea. Keep them all stockpiled in her garage. She will know who is deserving.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in IS IT GOOD FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE THE BIBLE ?   
    Witness. Good idea. Keep them all stockpiled in her garage. She will know who is deserving.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from xero in IS IT GOOD FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE THE BIBLE ?   
    Witness. Good idea. Keep them all stockpiled in her garage. She will know who is deserving.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    You wouldn’t know Holy Spirit if you choked on a cup of it.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from xero in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    In my entire life, I only heard my dad swear once. Long ago, when entirely families would swim at the beach, a group of teens walked by and one of them said “s**t” He reared up like a grizzly bear and hollered that there were decent families around, and they scattered. If they ridiculed him, it wasn’t till they were far away.
    The one time I heard his swear was when he was 90 with dementia. He would ask the same question over and over again, each time immediately forgetting the answer. It weirded my brother out, and he tried responding by just ignoring him. “G******T, ANSWER ME when I talk to you!!” he roared, and my brother never did that again.
    ”C’mon bro” I said. “You just can’t ignore him. Answer him. It doesn’t matter what you say. You don’t have to translate and come up with the right answer. Say anything. He’ll forget it. But you can’t just ignore him like he were a bratty child.
    I’m sure I let some sleazeballs and if they act up once, they’re gone. I delete more readily now. But the reason I did not from the get-go is due to what you said about varying standards of dress. If the profile pic is okay, they’re in. I may later find I was too hasty. Immodest dress in itself will not ban them, but a deliberate strutting ones stuff, trying to be as provocative as one can, will get them the boot. It is sort of pathetic really, and sad, and not anywhere near as provocative as some of these ones seem to think. But I’m getting tired of doing this. I am either going to show up with a ruler, just like teachers in old-time high school, or I’m going to insist upon everyone wearing barrels. 
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    Okay, I went through it. Yes, I do like it. I just needed the energy of a brand new day. I only put my daily Bible reading ahead of it—I hope nobody minds. The spies getting all weak-kneed in the promised land, bunch of wusses.
    The blog & artwork is generational, and I am of an older generation. But I did like it, the simple drawing with bright colors.
    My daughter keeps sending me a similar set of cartoons that are likewise generational, but they grow on one. Beings from another planet poking gentle fun at customs by describing it in words they don’t quite have.

    I’ll check out Chicago if I can. I may have a hard time sneaking it past my wife. I see some review that there is language throughout. I get it that it would be historical, but to her a #@!* is a #@!*
    It’a hard even to get a murder mystery in, since they always start with someone being killed. 
    We did recently watch Bridge of Spies (for the 2nd time, and I rarely watch anything a 2nd time) But Tom Hanks can turn anything into gold and this Spielberg movie is gold to begin with. 
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    Sigh—I don’t want to be crude, but the unaccustomed volume of friend requests means I’d better not see much cleavage and preferably none at all. To say you are approving friends based upon not seeing cleavage, I know sounds crass, but there you have it. I can see why social media wears people out. My wife has those things too, you know.
    Don’t people know that I do nothing but think about God all day?
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    TrueTomHarley reacted to JW Insider in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    Nathan W Pyle's alien comics are hilarious. Without kids, I don't think I would have known. Do you think the WTS will ever make use of something like them to help show the folly of Birthdays (aka Emergence Days)? Or Valentine's Day?


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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from JW Insider in I'm sure everyone's seen this, but I've often started my day w/this video   
    I did call them some months ago. There was a digital side note somewhere, explaining some passage or other, that began with: “Does God care about women?” and the answer was “No.”
    It was purely a format thing. The “no” was in response to something else, but the formatting put it as answer to the above question.
    I explained it to whoever answered the phone and was put through to an extension. I explained it to that brother and he seemed slow to recognize the problem, then inclined to shrug it off as one of those things. Well, this is not the right department anyway, he said, and he rung me through to someone else. 
    The phone rang forever and ever and ever and with anyone else I would have hung up. Finally the original brother answered, was surprised that it was me again, then said, well, for some reason they’re not picking up the phone, and said he’d send them the message.
    Maybe they were all doing the Happy Bethel dance.
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