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    TrueTomHarley reacted to JW Insider in "Jehovah’s Witnesses will not enjoy freebies under my government" – Akua Donkor   
    I suspect they would still be allowed the opportunity to pay taxes. She's not thinking it through if she really thinks that voting is "buying" the governments services. Most people think they are buying representation by paying taxes and they therefore vote as a way to try to manipulate the government to have the best chance of representing their own interests in how that tax money is spent. Yet, here we have a group of people who pay taxes but are not clamoring for special favors that one party offers over another.
    Also, having only partisan people among your government workers results in many problems. There are times when you really can't trust partisan people to tell you the truth about what is happening in their government departments. The USA has begun to have this trouble for last couple decades, especially. And in this last election, one party is supposed to be always untrustworthy when it comes to counting votes (in the eyes of the other party). A leader should be happy to have neutral, non-partisans in government jobs. Taken to the extreme, every time a new party comes to power, it could also end up meaning that all persons of the other party must now lose their jobs and training and efficiency must always start at the bottom again.
    There is a danger in this type of rhetoric which is probably a kind of "populist trial balloon" to see how much attention it will get her. It might be designed to get attention only because it seems outrageous to most, and she will add other things as she thinks of them if any of these get her some "airtime." I suspect she has picked this one (perhaps it's already one of many such issues) only because of a personal grudge against a particular relative's conversion (or a Witness' grudge against her for getting into politics, or a specific doctrine that she doesn't like. Or she's seen something negative in the news about Witnesses.
    She is probably hoping that it gets some attention, but it isn't likely to gain her enough. The two major parties are leading with the current president running again, and a past present running again. 99.9% chance that it ends up being one of those two.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Arauna in "Jehovah’s Witnesses will not enjoy freebies under my government" – Akua Donkor   
    You almost think that she would use her talents to root out villainy and solve a few problems in her country instead.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    Yes. And they’ll continue to trot out 1975 again and again. It’s the technique. Answer the question and the rascals merely repackage it and run in through again. 
    Nonetheless, @Anna, with better motive, asked if it was likely such a thing could ever happen again.
    There are two ways to answer this question: 
    “No.” As Mark Twain said: “A cat that sits on a hot stove will never sit on a hot stove again. Nor will it sit on a cold one, for they all look hot.”
    ”Yes.” Are you kidding me? It was 6000 years countdown from Adam, per Bible chronology. AND, coupled with the 1000 year reign of Christ to commence after Armageddon. It doesn’t call to mind the 6:1 Sabbath arrangement of God? 
    Come now. You think they’re going to snooze through that one? They’re the watchman, after all. It’s an irresistible type/anti-type situation. Given the monumental alignment of the planets, it’s a wonder they didn’t make the call far more forcefully than they did, instead of merely stating it was a possibility, which Charlie presently escalated into a probability. They have to make a call on something like that. It is a sorry watchman, peering through the gloom, high up in his perch, that sounds the alarm only when the prow of the approaching ship smashes through the gunwale and pinches his toes.
    ”No.” The above is actually reassuring. Because such monumental circumstances will not repeat for a long, long, time—and it took such monumental circumstances to put the call on the back burner that some soon moved to the front. Three or four years after 75, I recall some rep saying, “We’ve sailed past all the markers.” What can that mean except, “We’re done?” No more calls like that—until the next time—but there shouldn’t be a next time, for that kind of a setup doesn’t happen everyday. Now we get things like “deep in the last days,” the “end is just around the corner,” and “the last of the last days.” Why not see if you one can hold out till “the last of the last of the last days?” 
    Everyone gets one failed end-date call within a lifetime. It’s in the rules. It’s a sign of staying alert. Jump the gun in the race and do they shoot you with it? No. It’s not a big deal. They just start the race over.
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Shiwiii in Is Religion a Choice?   
    If you do not teach your children values, it does not mean that they grow up free and unencumbered and, when of age, select their own values from the rich cornucopia of life. 
    No. All it means is that someone else will teach them
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Isabella Guzman Asks For Release From Colorado Mental Hospital   
    This is called hearsay and gossip. It is not a noble quality to simply post dirt having no idea whether it is true or not.
    Did I tell you that the Pope got caught sneaking a nuclear bomb into the Mormon temple? If true, this is very bad.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in Isabella Guzman Asks For Release From Colorado Mental Hospital   
    It will always be in the name of whatever the abusers are involved in. 
    But we are molded by our experiences, and that is a very bad one. One might almost say “Thanks for sharing.” It lends an insight.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in Isabella Guzman Asks For Release From Colorado Mental Hospital   
    It is by no means unusual for parents to yell at their children. It might not be the norm, but it is common. Back in the day, it was by no means unusual for parents to “beat” their children, especially in the form of spankings. Nothing was more unremarkable. 
    I am the only Witness in my family. You have to go back almost to Noah to find another. My dad’s father was so harsh that his oldest son determined he would not be like him, and did not discipline his kids at all. Believe me when I tell you, there were some hell-raisers among them. 
    My dad did not swear off discipline. Spanking was not uncommon, and a belt was sometimes used. “Just wait till your father gets home,” my outmaneuvered mom would say. She’d rat on me the second he walked through the door, and then it was one bad experience for me. But this was routine among families—I think more common than not. “Spare the rod and spoil the child”—it was as common for people to say that as the pledge to the flag.
    Sometimes parents were just doing their best to raise kids, trying to forestall bad habits. Sometimes they were abusive themselves. Sometimes they were working through their own issues. It is good to forgive. It leads to a healthier life. And yes, it goes the other way as well. But you can’t control what another does. You can only control what you do.
    I remember Cora, decades ago, tearing into a newspaper editor after he’d run a story of some felon and had taken pains to highlight a Witness connection. “You would never have done that were he Catholic or Lutheran,” she said. The fellow reflected, “You’re right,” he said, “we wouldn’t,” and apologized to her. 
    There are a lot of damaged people around. 
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in Is Religion a Choice?   
    If you do not teach your children values, it does not mean that they grow up free and unencumbered and, when of age, select their own values from the rich cornucopia of life. 
    No. All it means is that someone else will teach them
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Joan Kennedy in Is Religion a Choice?   
    If you do not teach your children values, it does not mean that they grow up free and unencumbered and, when of age, select their own values from the rich cornucopia of life. 
    No. All it means is that someone else will teach them
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    TrueTomHarley reacted to Isabella in Over 400 Jehovah’s Witnesses Charged or Convicted in Russia, Group Says   
    More than 400 Jehovah’s Witnesses have been charged or convicted in Russia since the country banned the religious group as an “extremist” organization three years ago, the Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia has said.
    Since the April 2017 ban by Russia’s Supreme Court, law enforcement officers raided the homes of 1,166 worshippers’ families, the Jehovah’s Witnesses said
    Authorities have opened 175 criminal cases into “extremism” against worshippers as of late October 2020, with 148 of them still in progress, the Christian denomination said on its website. 
    More than half of the 400 worshippers spent between several days to three years in detention while awaiting trial. Some 310 have lost their jobs, businesses, pensions and bank accounts as a result of the “extremist” label.
    Four Jehovah’s Witnesses have died while under investigation.

    The Jehovah's Witnesses religious group has been banned in Russia as an "extremist" organization since April 2017
    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/11/10/over-400-jehovahs-witnesses-charged-or-convicted-in-russia-group-says-a71998
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    I think you vastly overrate your contributions here.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    I haven’t done that yet. (Didn’t know it was possible)  But perhaps I should. After all, there is nothing new under the sun.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Emma Rose in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    I haven’t done that yet. (Didn’t know it was possible)  But perhaps I should. After all, there is nothing new under the sun.
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    TrueTomHarley reacted to Emma Rose in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    It's rather peaceful to read: "You've chosen to ignore content by ............"
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Emma Rose in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    That’s one more than I am. Who’s the 2nd?
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Emma Rose in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    You give me far too much credit. I just thought your printer must have run out of ink.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from César Chávez in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    That’s one more than I am. Who’s the 2nd?
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    I didn’t actually say that he didn’t belong here. I said that if he remains, he may decide to rethink his approach. He is not wrong, you know. The Bible uses words like ‘stupid” in a moral sense, not one of mere intelligence. It is more that, as you say, there is little use in a thread that just becomes one of name-calling.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    That’s one more than I am. Who’s the 2nd?
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    TrueTomHarley reacted to JW Insider in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    Wait... what? Minimal is the goal? Now you tell me?!?!?!?
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from JW Insider in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    It may be that @derek1956will reassess whether he really belongs here. I am not sure that any of us really do, but to remain one must have a certain imperviousness, an overall strategy, and unflappability. One cannot respond to things as though personally.
    I know where he is coming from, though. It is initially shocking to see ones taunting the Most High, all the more so when they purposefully make themselves obtuse about how God works with and through humans. The fact that they have nothing to offer that is better doesn’t phase them in the slightest, as they do nothing but condemn the GB, their spiritual betters. 
    No, you don’t go calling people rats and idiots, nor judge just who is to die, for that is not our place. But he displays righteous indignation, a Godly jealousy toward those who would condemn ones working tirelessly in His name, imperfect though they may be, while they do nothing themselves. He won’t be criticized for this, though he may come to rethink the nature of his participation, or even whether he thinks it is advisable.
    Anything you put on the internet remains forever.  It is also instantly buried, so any gaffes need not be overly regretted—still, it does remain forever.
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from César Chávez in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    I’m not sure what you mean by clear. As stated, I was baptized in 73 and I thought it very possible, even likely, that the end would come in 75. But as the year dragged on and there was no end I do not recall any sense of letdown (let alone betrayal). “Oh, well, I guess it comes later,” I said. 
    It might have been different had I sold a house or made major changes. But then again, life throws stuff at us all the time. You suck it up and carry on. As to the “offending” brother, did he even have a house to sell at any time in his life? People do their best and sometimes are wrong. 
    “Sign here, kid—I’m gonna make you a star!”
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Emma Rose in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    Quick, someone do a word efficiency analysis, and tell me If Emma Rose will not win hands down for conveying maximum content in minimal words, a skill we should all strive for.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Emma Rose in JUST HOW BIG OF A DEBACLE, WAS THE PROPHESY OF 1975?   
    It may be that @derek1956will reassess whether he really belongs here. I am not sure that any of us really do, but to remain one must have a certain imperviousness, an overall strategy, and unflappability. One cannot respond to things as though personally.
    I know where he is coming from, though. It is initially shocking to see ones taunting the Most High, all the more so when they purposefully make themselves obtuse about how God works with and through humans. The fact that they have nothing to offer that is better doesn’t phase them in the slightest, as they do nothing but condemn the GB, their spiritual betters. 
    No, you don’t go calling people rats and idiots, nor judge just who is to die, for that is not our place. But he displays righteous indignation, a Godly jealousy toward those who would condemn ones working tirelessly in His name, imperfect though they may be, while they do nothing themselves. He won’t be criticized for this, though he may come to rethink the nature of his participation, or even whether he thinks it is advisable.
    Anything you put on the internet remains forever.  It is also instantly buried, so any gaffes need not be overly regretted—still, it does remain forever.
     
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