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    TrueTomHarley reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    My wife, Susan,  sent me a link to this from the downstairs computer, of a woman reunited with her dog who somehow got into a shelter.
    If you want to distill three days of words, words, and more words, into one photograph ..... look at this one.

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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Foreigner in How are we to understand the GB/Slave interpreting scripture, as the sole chanel, and at the same time accept that they can err?   
    This brings to mind when Anna started complaining that I never upvoted anyone, so I searched through her comments and upvoted if she so much as sneezed. 
    In no time at all, I had crashed her computer system.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in A JW ASKS, “WHAT WOULD I DO WITHOUT JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION?"   
    Come come. That is you pretending to be him.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in Are children capable of committing fornication?   
    I have many times made the point that reckless hurling of the C-word inspires the unstable crazies to take matters into their own hands.
    https://www.tomsheepandgoats.com/2019/01/the-anti-cultists-are-directly-responsible.html
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from JW Insider in Are children capable of committing fornication?   
    That’s a lot of work to syphon out the liars. 
    That’s not to say it is not a good idea, nor that it is any more time-consuming than what I do. It is just that few people have that kind of time. Most people take news from one or two sources, often the evening TV news for people our age, and pretty well accept that they are being told the truth. Usually they are, but it is not “the whole truth and nothing but the truth”—which can completely turn things around.
    At one pioneer meeting the elder conducting it was highlighting the importance of neutrality, and never to give the impression of taking sides. “Now we all know that Trump is crazy,” he said, “but.......” I would stake my life on it that his only source of news is the evening news of one of the three networks. 
    I was relatively up in years before I discovered to my surprise that my (non-Witness) Dad cared hardly at all about politics. Many were the political discussions swirling around the dining room table, as I was growing up, when the extended family was gathered. However, it turned out that my Mom’s father was very much a GOP person and would crank on about it endlessly, and my Dad was just too gracious to tell him to zip it—it was his father-in-law, after all, who his wife liked.
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in Are children capable of committing fornication?   
    That’s a lot of work to syphon out the liars. 
    That’s not to say it is not a good idea, nor that it is any more time-consuming than what I do. It is just that few people have that kind of time. Most people take news from one or two sources, often the evening TV news for people our age, and pretty well accept that they are being told the truth. Usually they are, but it is not “the whole truth and nothing but the truth”—which can completely turn things around.
    At one pioneer meeting the elder conducting it was highlighting the importance of neutrality, and never to give the impression of taking sides. “Now we all know that Trump is crazy,” he said, “but.......” I would stake my life on it that his only source of news is the evening news of one of the three networks. 
    I was relatively up in years before I discovered to my surprise that my (non-Witness) Dad cared hardly at all about politics. Many were the political discussions swirling around the dining room table, as I was growing up, when the extended family was gathered. However, it turned out that my Mom’s father was very much a GOP person and would crank on about it endlessly, and my Dad was just too gracious to tell him to zip it—it was his father-in-law, after all, who his wife liked.
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in Are children capable of committing fornication?   
    Come to think of it, they were “Far Side” chickens.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in Are children capable of committing fornication?   
    BTW, this month is ‘space month’ at PBS. ‘American Experience’ has some excellent documentaries on the space race.
    It even shows cars of that vintage.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in Are children capable of committing fornication?   
    Why should you use that logic here? You reject it in its proper setting.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in Are children capable of committing fornication?   
    It never occurred to me that this statement would provoke such a response. What is your take? That JWs all think the moon landing was staged?
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    TrueTomHarley reacted to Evacuated in Are children capable of committing fornication?   
    There seems to be myth being addressed in this discussion hence the erroneous and void conclusions.
    Fact: Rape by definition takes place when force or the threat of force is used to gain sexual penetration, of any kind whatsoever, against a person's will. It is the rapist's use of force against an unwilling victim that makes him a rapist. Thus, a rape victim is not guilty of fornication. Like an incest victim, they may be forced to submit to an act they doesn't want because of the perceived power held over them by another person. In some cases this coercion could be very subtle, but nevertheless, coercion it is. When a person is forced to submit to a rapist out of terror or disorientation, it does not mean that they consent to the act. Consent is based on choice without threat and is active, not passive. 
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in Are children capable of committing fornication?   
    As near as I can tell, Jehovah’s Witnesses buy into conspiracy theories in no greater proportion than the general population. It is a little surprising, since they have become privy to the greatest conspiracy theory of all—that involving “false religion.”
    As for me, I find myself nibbling at the edges, and in some cases accepting them. If I follow anything on Twitter, I make a point also of following its polar opposite. Sometimes i find the polar opposite point of view to be represented much more persuasively than the common wisdom.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in A JW ASKS, “WHAT WOULD I DO WITHOUT JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION?"   
    Do you mean that commercial company founded by the frat boy whose original purpose was to rate women by their outward physical attributes—their “faces?”
    Look, I am prolific on commercial media, too, but I don’t try to elevate it as a vehicle for the Lord GOD of Hosts. It is just me spouting opinions, some of which I hope are worthwhile.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in A JW ASKS, “WHAT WOULD I DO WITHOUT JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION?"   
    You ridiculous woman! Those, too, are easily gleaned from remarks already made. The only reason that “we two have come to a standstill” is because you don’t have the sense to acknowledge an answer when given. You simply repackage one of your complaints and run it through again—as you are doing here, ever breathing life into corpses that have been buried.
     
    I did though, didn’t I? My goal was to find out if there was anything that you believed in other than that the current GB was doing it all wrong, while somehow keeping you and the other “true” anointed prisoners in the abyss. And when I did ask questions to that end, you immediately took it as evidence that I was finally coming around to view you as the true teacher! It was unbelievable!
    How can eight ‘false’ anointed so hamstring the countless ‘real’ anointed?—for the one thing that I did learn from the exchange is that you hold there are countless real anointed, not at all the limited number JWs point to. Send the eight out into the wilderness, forget they ever existed, and use your overwhelming numbers to feed the sheep yourselves, if that is the case.
    The reason that you cannot draw them in, in the spirit of Haggai 2:7. (And I will shake all the nations, and the precious things of all the nations will come in) is that you have no “in” for them to come into. Your “in” is no more than tirades that the GB is wrong. You don’t actually do anything otherwise, or at least nothing that you have identified.
    They, on the other hand, have a considerable “in,” which you do nothing but disparage. Say anything about deeds of the organization, and you say “Who needs deeds? Who needs organization? Just believe in the Lord Jesus.” 
    Say it already: “Just believe on the Lord and go to the church of your choice.”
    Your hate-filled diatribes against the GB (as opposed to JTR’s, which are crass and insulting, but seldom if ever hate-filled) even earn you rebukes from the Librarian (that old hen) from time to time, whereas I have only been rebuked by her once, mostly unwillingly since it was Admin’s displeasure that triggered it, and that was her own fault for putting me on a thread I didn’t want to be put on in the first place, “TrueTom vs the Apostates” and, come to think of it, you were one of the apostates, but in hindsight, I am glad that she did it because I built that exchange into a book called “TrueTom vs the Apostates” and made use of that rebuke in the very first chapter:
    https://www.tomsheepandgoats.com/2019/01/confrontation-atop-gotham-tower-1.html
    So ridiculous woman that you may be, I owe you a significant creative debt.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    That mutt has a lot more artistic and business savvy than I was aware of.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Melinda Mills in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    That mutt has a lot more artistic and business savvy than I was aware of.
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    TrueTomHarley reacted to Melinda Mills in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    Good thing you don't live in the Caribbean - that would be accepted as lyrics for a double entendre calypso for the carnival season.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    They are outlines at the assemblies and conventions, but they are so tightly packed that it is barely possible to deviate or ramble. Most convention talks these days are but 10 minutes in length, and that often includes a video.
    Public talks at the Kingdom Hall are 30 minutes in length. The aim is to follow the outline supplied, but there is more room for expounding, illustrating, personalization, etc.
    Mess up a Kingdom Hall talk and you may live to do another one. Mess up an assembly talk and you are not likely to be assigned another.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    They are outlines at the assemblies and conventions, but they are so tightly packed that it is barely possible to deviate or ramble. Most convention talks these days are but 10 minutes in length, and that often includes a video.
    Public talks at the Kingdom Hall are 30 minutes in length. The aim is to follow the outline supplied, but there is more room for expounding, illustrating, personalization, etc.
    Mess up a Kingdom Hall talk and you may live to do another one. Mess up an assembly talk and you are not likely to be assigned another.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from JW Insider in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    They are outlines at the assemblies and conventions, but they are so tightly packed that it is barely possible to deviate or ramble. Most convention talks these days are but 10 minutes in length, and that often includes a video.
    Public talks at the Kingdom Hall are 30 minutes in length. The aim is to follow the outline supplied, but there is more room for expounding, illustrating, personalization, etc.
    Mess up a Kingdom Hall talk and you may live to do another one. Mess up an assembly talk and you are not likely to be assigned another.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Melinda Mills in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    They are outlines at the assemblies and conventions, but they are so tightly packed that it is barely possible to deviate or ramble. Most convention talks these days are but 10 minutes in length, and that often includes a video.
    Public talks at the Kingdom Hall are 30 minutes in length. The aim is to follow the outline supplied, but there is more room for expounding, illustrating, personalization, etc.
    Mess up a Kingdom Hall talk and you may live to do another one. Mess up an assembly talk and you are not likely to be assigned another.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from JW Insider in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    Year after year after year I send in my suggestion for the Convention theme. Year after year after year it is ignored!
    “The righteous one takes care of his domestic animals.” Proverbs 12:10
    One glorious year it will happen.
     

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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Melinda Mills in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    Year after year after year I send in my suggestion for the Convention theme. Year after year after year it is ignored!
    “The righteous one takes care of his domestic animals.” Proverbs 12:10
    One glorious year it will happen.
     

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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in What concept/concepts is behind the term "inspired"?   
    There you go again. You’ve got it all wrong.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from JOHN BUTLER in WHAT DID YOU LEARN THAT WAS NEW AT THE 2019 "LOVE NEVER FAILS" REGIONAL CONVENTION ?   
    Year after year after year I send in my suggestion for the Convention theme. Year after year after year it is ignored!
    “The righteous one takes care of his domestic animals.” Proverbs 12:10
    One glorious year it will happen.
     

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