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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from JW Insider in Jehovah’s Witnesses in Vietnam Welcome Trump on Sunday   
    Don't ever disappear like that again! We were worried sick! 
    I was concerned that you had taken Amos 7:12, which we just covered at the meeting, to heart:
    O visionary, go, run away to the land of wherever , earn your bread there, and there you may prophesy. But you must no longer prophesy [about]  Bethel.”
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in Jehovah’s Witnesses in Vietnam Welcome Trump on Sunday   
    Don't ever disappear like that again! We were worried sick! 
    I was concerned that you had taken Amos 7:12, which we just covered at the meeting, to heart:
    O visionary, go, run away to the land of wherever , earn your bread there, and there you may prophesy. But you must no longer prophesy [about]  Bethel.”
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from The Librarian in Jehovah’s Witnesses in Vietnam Welcome Trump on Sunday   
    Don't ever disappear like that again! We were worried sick! 
    I was concerned that you had taken Amos 7:12, which we just covered at the meeting, to heart:
    O visionary, go, run away to the land of wherever , earn your bread there, and there you may prophesy. But you must no longer prophesy [about]  Bethel.”
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in Watchtower pays $4000 per day for disobeying Secular Authority   
    If there is a silver lining in this mess it is that soon every fifth person in the world will be on the pedophile list.
    If there is another, it is that allegations of sexual impropriety involving prominent persons are a staple of life today. If you hate the person, you agree with the allegation. If you love the person, you disagree with it. James Carville, Bill Clinton's campaign manager, said: "Drag a hundred-dollar bill through a trailer park, you never know what you'll find." 
    Does one believe him? For the most part, it depends upon whether one likes Bill Clinton or not. The same can be said for almost any high-profile figure.
    JW things thereby become a tiny drop in the bucket, for it is exceedingly rare for an elder to be the accused perpetrator - when an abuse settlement was reached in 2007, the number given was nine in the span of 100 years. Usually they are accused of simply coming across the knowledge of abuse.It is not good, perhaps, but it is a far cry from being perpetrators themselves - and it would not happen if they had kept their noses out of the conduct of congregation members - as do other religions. 
    God would be cheated that way, for he says keep the congregation clean. But it would be safer from a liability point of view.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in Watchtower pays $4000 per day for disobeying Secular Authority   
    Pride has nothing to do with it.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Noble Berean in Watchtower pays $4000 per day for disobeying Secular Authority   
    You say that it is fallout from doing what no one else has attempted to do: monitor wrongdoing (of all sorts, but here specifically child abuse) so as to accomplish two things, which actually collapse into one. 1.) discover abusers so as to administer discipline, up to and including disfellowshipping, so as so follow God's command to keep congregation as clean as possible, and 2.) keep track of any abusers, so that they cannot slip out of one congregation and into another - as they can anywhere else.
    You acknowledge missteps have probably occurred. Nonetheless, instances of abuse would never be associated with the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses were that organization like the general world of religion - which takes no interest in the conduct of its members and considers their conduct none of its business. 
    Having said that, the brother who first proposed keeping track of such accused abusers has been assigned to permanent potato-peeling duty in the Bethel basement for upwards of 40 years now, and may be the inspiration for the book: "Forty Years a Watchtower Slave."
    This is a common response to guard against crazies, not directed towards anyone in particular, to my knowledge. The disciples even locked their doors for a time. Jesus found a way to get around that, but anyone else would have had a hard time. Who knows - maybe even the Texas shooter in the Baptist church would have been dissuaded if he had had to first blast into the building from the outside.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in What is a Christian Man's MORAL responsibility to protect his own life, or that of his immediate or spiritual family?   
    I have thought the matter over carefully and have decided you are right.
    At the next Bethel bigwig meeting, assuming that I am invited, I am going to insist upon a Weapons Servant for each congregation. 
    The Weapons Servant will distribute arms to each publisher entering the meeting. Any sissies declining will be subject to counseling. Two elders will do - it is not, in its early stage - a judicial matter.
    Publishers will be issued tommyguns, Ministerial Servants AK-47s, and elders Missile Launchers. Sisters will get Glock handguns. Children will be issue squirt guns. 
    There is absolutely no question who should be the Weapons Servant in your congregation, but I am not sure of the others. Please forward a list of names. Forward also both scriptures to inspire ones so armed, and scriptures they do well to forget. 
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Shunning, sinners and excommunication in JW congregations   
    Check the definition of 'endorse.' You seem to be implying that they forbid it. 
    In fact, their statement is much weaker than that of Paul to Timothy: "O Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to you. Avoid profane babbling and the absurdities of so-called knowledge." -  Tim 6:20 NABRE
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Nana Fofana in "Nourishing Spiritual Food"?   
    Since they have greatly facilitated the preaching work into all the inhabited earth, perhaps God will go easier on them than you think.
    Plus, by reading and meditating on the Word daily, and reflecting upon how things turn out, there is no reason to think they do not allow their Bible study to adequately discipline themselves. All of us need discipline, and we all mostly get it through this means. 
    I think that you are at your best when you use your talents to focus upon your first remarks. Especially since you would never have discovered these things without their efforts and that of their forerunners.
     
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Israeli Bar Avaddhon in "Nourishing Spiritual Food"?   
    Since they have greatly facilitated the preaching work into all the inhabited earth, perhaps God will go easier on them than you think.
    Plus, by reading and meditating on the Word daily, and reflecting upon how things turn out, there is no reason to think they do not allow their Bible study to adequately discipline themselves. All of us need discipline, and we all mostly get it through this means. 
    I think that you are at your best when you use your talents to focus upon your first remarks. Especially since you would never have discovered these things without their efforts and that of their forerunners.
     
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in "Nourishing Spiritual Food"?   
    7 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said: I am 71 years old, above average intelligence,
    I am also above average intelligence. Especially if you are not fussy.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in "Nourishing Spiritual Food"?   
    Great, just great! After I said he was putting on weight. Now Witness will declare me a false prophet!
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Matthew9969 in "Nourishing Spiritual Food"?   
    Are you saying they are not?
     
    Didn't you just say that they did?
     
    Didn't you just say Witnesses spoke of nothing else?
     
    Do you think it is not?
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Watcher in Shunning, sinners and excommunication in JW congregations   
    Did you ever hear a person say: "I am gay or I am a pedophile but I have good self-control and am not practicing anything bad so I am okay to invite to lunch with your family including your.....minor kids?
     
    JW scientists are busy at this very moment inventing a machine that can read minds so as to solve this problem.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in Married Jehovah's Witness is caught stripping in a stranger's living room as his horrified wife watches by live video link   
    Often the WHY is more important than the statement itself.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Evacuated in Married Jehovah's Witness is caught stripping in a stranger's living room as his horrified wife watches by live video link   
    Often the WHY is more important than the statement itself.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Nana Fofana in "Nourishing Spiritual Food"?   
    Are you saying they are not?
     
    Didn't you just say that they did?
     
    Didn't you just say Witnesses spoke of nothing else?
     
    Do you think it is not?
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in "Nourishing Spiritual Food"?   
    Usually before I spotlight a video for proof of my point, I go there to see that it really does that.
     
    Should you not add: "It is so important that I didn't go there?"
     
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in How Common is Shunning?   
    Be careful in high-fiving @Witness is my caution to you. She tirelessly presents herself here as Jehovah's true annointed - which would make her your new boss.
    Isn't that the 'Who' song?  Meet the new boss - Worse than the old boss!
     
    Outrageous disgusting blatant hypocrisy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for calling our attention to this!
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in How Common is Shunning?   
    This sounds like an example of 'natural' law to me.
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    TrueTomHarley reacted to Bible Speaks in The Office of the Prosecutor presented official apologies to Sergiev Posad's Elders   
    The Office of the Prosecutor presented official apologies to Sergiev Posad's Elders
     Vyacheslav Stepanov and Andrew Sivak, who for 7 years has been prosecuted for his faith, obtained from the letter Posad city of the prosecutor's apology and explanation of the rehabilitation order.
    In the letter, the deputy prosecutor of the city, AK Sergeev, said: "... on behalf of the state, I bring you an official apology for the moral damage caused to you, related to an irrational prosecution under Article 282 part 2 [...] You have the right to demand the sending of written statements about the decision that justifies it, in the place of work, study or place of residence, in case the information about ... the illegal actions to the that has been applied has been published in the press, distributed by radio, television or other means, has the right to request the relevant media to make a report on the rehabilitation.
    I have already informed the Federal Financial Monitoring Service of believers that their names are removed from the list of "persons against whom there is evidence of their involvement in extremist activities." -
    GOOGLE TRANSLATION 
    https://jw-russia.org/news/17110712-228.html

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