TrueTomHarley

The neat thing about the internet is it doesn’t matter. Write what you write and go to bed. I’ll make sure the ruffians don’t erase it while you sleep. Then when you wake and see ten dumb comments appended to your remark, blast away.

I dunno. In that case we’d all be disciples of you-know-who, who quotes scriptures by the truckload but they never apply.

I dunno. In that case we’d all be disciples of you-know-who, who quotes scriptures by the truckload but they never apply.

More than enough scriptures were used at the convention.  I am not a teacher or a debater on this forum. I give logical opinions - that is it.
You can take up some of the thoughts which are in line with the scriptures you already know - or discard them.  I expect people on here to know most of the basic scriptures.
I have in the past taken the time to look up the scriptures and people just ignore them and go on presenting their own ideas. 

I dunno. In that case we’d all be disciples of you-know-who, who quotes scriptures by the truckload but they never apply.

Good analysis.
If you don't mind...I spotted a typo. I think you meant to say "jump on the internet" not of.

A little research project I recently did:
I was about to comment on how Solomon requests of God an ‘obedient heart’ and that is the last thing you might expect a king to request. Before doing so I checked to see what other translations had done with that expression. To my surprise, ‘obedient’ was almost unique. The vast majority said ‘understanding.’ 
At first blush, this doesn’t bode well for the New World Translation, Only one other out of 64 translations say it as they do, but upon research, I came away thinking ‘obedient’ is likely the best rendering of all:
https://www.tomsheepandgoats.com/2022/08/an-obedient-heart-or-an-understanding-heartwhich-is-it.html

Claret. I hear that she seriously boozes it up with the Librarian (that old hen) every evening.

Witness said the C-word?
I mean, I can do it because I don’t pretend to be shining brightly as the sun,  but her!

Witness said the C-word?
I mean, I can do it because I don’t pretend to be shining brightly as the sun,  but her!

⬆️⬆️(Satire Alert)⬆️⬆️
 
Critical discussions of theology, over time, make our own better.

I put it first on my own blog. It’s also in TTvtA.
It didn’t carry the day with that Reddit bunch, but then they ARE a hostile crowd. And even I have to admit those mannerisms do take getting used to, regardless of their origin. I think we have to drop back to Pudgy’s comment:
Coming from cynical Pudgy, this is extraordinary praise, the equivalent of ‘Stellar’ from anyone else. 
It may be just an example of God ‘laughing at the wisdom of this systems’s wise ones,’ proof that his anointed are, as in the first century, seldom of ‘noble birth,’ nor ‘wise,’ but decidedly ‘uneducated and ordinary.’
I’ll take substance over style any day. Turn on the TV and you can see endless people whose ‘style’ is impeccable. Among them are some of the stupidest people whom God ever let roam the earth.

Not only engaged. All but married. (To be sure, not happily married) What prompted the change? The position of the earthly organization is not new.
 
 

Not only engaged. All but married. (To be sure, not happily married) What prompted the change? The position of the earthly organization is not new.
 
 

I put it first on my own blog. It’s also in TTvtA.
It didn’t carry the day with that Reddit bunch, but then they ARE a hostile crowd. And even I have to admit those mannerisms do take getting used to, regardless of their origin. I think we have to drop back to Pudgy’s comment:
Coming from cynical Pudgy, this is extraordinary praise, the equivalent of ‘Stellar’ from anyone else. 
It may be just an example of God ‘laughing at the wisdom of this systems’s wise ones,’ proof that his anointed are, as in the first century, seldom of ‘noble birth,’ nor ‘wise,’ but decidedly ‘uneducated and ordinary.’
I’ll take substance over style any day. Turn on the TV and you can see endless people whose ‘style’ is impeccable. Among them are some of the stupidest people whom God ever let roam the earth.

I put it first on my own blog. It’s also in TTvtA.
It didn’t carry the day with that Reddit bunch, but then they ARE a hostile crowd. And even I have to admit those mannerisms do take getting used to, regardless of their origin. I think we have to drop back to Pudgy’s comment:
Coming from cynical Pudgy, this is extraordinary praise, the equivalent of ‘Stellar’ from anyone else. 
It may be just an example of God ‘laughing at the wisdom of this systems’s wise ones,’ proof that his anointed are, as in the first century, seldom of ‘noble birth,’ nor ‘wise,’ but decidedly ‘uneducated and ordinary.’
I’ll take substance over style any day. Turn on the TV and you can see endless people whose ‘style’ is impeccable. Among them are some of the stupidest people whom God ever let roam the earth.

I put it first on my own blog. It’s also in TTvtA.
It didn’t carry the day with that Reddit bunch, but then they ARE a hostile crowd. And even I have to admit those mannerisms do take getting used to, regardless of their origin. I think we have to drop back to Pudgy’s comment:
Coming from cynical Pudgy, this is extraordinary praise, the equivalent of ‘Stellar’ from anyone else. 
It may be just an example of God ‘laughing at the wisdom of this systems’s wise ones,’ proof that his anointed are, as in the first century, seldom of ‘noble birth,’ nor ‘wise,’ but decidedly ‘uneducated and ordinary.’
I’ll take substance over style any day. Turn on the TV and you can see endless people whose ‘style’ is impeccable. Among them are some of the stupidest people whom God ever let roam the earth.

I put it first on my own blog. It’s also in TTvtA.
It didn’t carry the day with that Reddit bunch, but then they ARE a hostile crowd. And even I have to admit those mannerisms do take getting used to, regardless of their origin. I think we have to drop back to Pudgy’s comment:
Coming from cynical Pudgy, this is extraordinary praise, the equivalent of ‘Stellar’ from anyone else. 
It may be just an example of God ‘laughing at the wisdom of this systems’s wise ones,’ proof that his anointed are, as in the first century, seldom of ‘noble birth,’ nor ‘wise,’ but decidedly ‘uneducated and ordinary.’
I’ll take substance over style any day. Turn on the TV and you can see endless people whose ‘style’ is impeccable. Among them are some of the stupidest people whom God ever let roam the earth.

No fair at all, but neither is life. Down they go. It’s possible to establish such a cantankerous reputation, even resurrecting oneself from preview banishments to do so, to earn frequent flyer miles on the ‘In&Out’ Airline. Behave, tone down rancor, compare yourself with yourself only, not with other people (isn’t there a verse on that somewhere?) and you will yet live long and prosper.

Jesus sometimes spoke in hyperbole and so does Lett. You could almost say that the man himself is an hyperbole.
A brother in our congregation who works with the deaf, who himself has deaf ones in his family, casts doubt on this. Rather, he says it is from long habit of battling Bell’s palsy, which paralyzes the face and which you overcome by deliberate working of face muscles. In response to my questioning, he said he had it “on good authority,” so I rate it probably 90% as being true.

“…. Is ANYBODY here a real sheep?”

If only in theological discussions there were some semblance of common sense, discussions would go a lot easier and be more logical and coherent.
But it appears that common sense is sorely lacking which allows everything to be misconstrued, bent out of shape Or exaggerated…… And even more often things,  ideas and expressions that are totally harmless are considered to be Proclamations of Evil.
I think Brother Lett’s expressions about babies being enemies of God were meant for a educated sane, savvi  theocratic audience who actually thinks about things and doesn’t have a knee-jerk reactions to something that may in another context be creepy but in the context it was intended perhaps with a little thought would be OK.
If someone who is borderline insane would listen to him, all bets are off.
A good example of this would be the infamous “Pillowgate“ videos for the new Bethelites. This fiasco went around the world several times creeping everybody out and to be fair it was world-class creepy, awkward and dumber than a bag of sticks in its presentation, but the fact remains that it was very good advice.
…… being fair is a double edge sword, it cuts both ways and although Brother Lett is sometimes creepy to those that don’t know him, at least 50% of the time he  gave us good advice.
This is better than most corporations, where if an executive gives good advice 50% of the time he’s considered to be effective at his job, and then you get somebody like Elon Musk who is right about 95% of the time and it makes him look like the Messiah.
Elon Musk has a philosophy that he’s not gonna analyze something to death before he tries it out, he puts stuff together he thinks will work and then sees if it blows up on him.
And occasionally it does.

Everyone wants subscription these days. Recurring income, and they don’t have to do a thing for it. Lawsuits over tractor-makers for not allowing farmers to fix their own tractors,

“Then Truetom, also called TTH, becoming fed up, looked at her intently  and said: “O woman full of every sort of fraud and every sort of villainy, you daughter of the Devil, you enemy of everything righteous, will you not quit distorting the right ways of Jehovah?  (Acts 13:9-10)
What he said was: 
“Now, if we think about it, we're not born as friends of God because we're born as sinful offspring of Adam. Actually, when we think about it, we're born as enemies of God. Sometimes you'll hear people say of a little baby, ‘Look at that little angel,’ but more accurate would be to say, ‘Look at that little enemy of God.’ Now, of course we love that little baby and it's now not hopeless because our loving creator has made reconciliation with him within the reach of everyone. We can become a good friend of God and that close relationship with Jehovah will become our most valuable possession.”
Notice how he twice said, ‘when [if] we think about it?’ You have to do that: think about things and not just parrot sound bites to make people you hate look bad. Oh, you spiteful woman, who quotes scripture by the bushel basket but never lays hold on the one that applies, besides the reference to Adam in Genesis, the place to focus is here:
“…through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned—.” Romans 5:12
“when we were enemies we became reconciled to God through the death of his Son,” by exercising faith in him, which a baby cannot yet do, and thus is temporarily ‘grandfathered’ via the faith of it’s parents. (vs 10)
Now, as for Bro Lett, for a guy who will quote Job 12:11, “Does not the ear test out words As the tongue tastes food?” you’d almost think he’d test them out a little more before letting loose with a phrase that every evil cherry picker will use against him to “distort the right ways of Jehovah.”
Still, I hate to think what you would have done to Jesus, after his, ‘Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and I will resurrect him on the last day; for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink.’ John 6:54-55
Taking into consideration that passage in John, I would say Lett is supremely adhering to and following Christ as a model, more so than any of the other GB members.
Imagine: what sort of vile person would comb through a convention in which every talk explores the verse ‘seek peace and pursue it’ to find and exploit a faux pas?

“Then Truetom, also called TTH, becoming fed up, looked at her intently  and said: “O woman full of every sort of fraud and every sort of villainy, you daughter of the Devil, you enemy of everything righteous, will you not quit distorting the right ways of Jehovah?  (Acts 13:9-10)
What he said was: 
“Now, if we think about it, we're not born as friends of God because we're born as sinful offspring of Adam. Actually, when we think about it, we're born as enemies of God. Sometimes you'll hear people say of a little baby, ‘Look at that little angel,’ but more accurate would be to say, ‘Look at that little enemy of God.’ Now, of course we love that little baby and it's now not hopeless because our loving creator has made reconciliation with him within the reach of everyone. We can become a good friend of God and that close relationship with Jehovah will become our most valuable possession.”
Notice how he twice said, ‘when [if] we think about it?’ You have to do that: think about things and not just parrot sound bites to make people you hate look bad. Oh, you spiteful woman, who quotes scripture by the bushel basket but never lays hold on the one that applies, besides the reference to Adam in Genesis, the place to focus is here:
“…through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned—.” Romans 5:12
“when we were enemies we became reconciled to God through the death of his Son,” by exercising faith in him, which a baby cannot yet do, and thus is temporarily ‘grandfathered’ via the faith of it’s parents. (vs 10)
Now, as for Bro Lett, for a guy who will quote Job 12:11, “Does not the ear test out words As the tongue tastes food?” you’d almost think he’d test them out a little more before letting loose with a phrase that every evil cherry picker will use against him to “distort the right ways of Jehovah.”
Still, I hate to think what you would have done to Jesus, after his, ‘Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and I will resurrect him on the last day; for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink.’ John 6:54-55
Taking into consideration that passage in John, I would say Lett is supremely adhering to and following Christ as a model, more so than any of the other GB members.
Imagine: what sort of vile person would comb through a convention in which every talk explores the verse ‘seek peace and pursue it’ to find and exploit a faux pas?