TrueTomHarley

Of course he did. And Zelenskyy pumped his fist in appreciation, I’m sure.

When in doubt use them all. “Apostate hateful OCD dodo” works well enough in a pinch, better for some than for others.

When in doubt use them all. “Apostate hateful OCD dodo” works well enough in a pinch, better for some than for others.

I don't follow the "Org," I appreciate the organization for how it has been instrumental in currently helping millions of people build their faith on a solid foundation: faith in Jehovah, Christ Jesus, and the words and teachings of the Bible. I appreciate that it very efficiently and effectively has been instrumental in teaching tens of millions more, and getting the word out to hundreds of millions. (I.e., setting an example for preaching and teaching "good news" about a time under the Kingdom when there will be no more war, no more divisive politics, no more racism, and a time when Jehovah's provisions will make all things new, returning heaven and earth to His original purpose.)
I don't believe we need worry too much about the history of an organization, as if that is what Jesus meant by building on a solid foundation. What the organization was back between, say, 1884 and 1935, or even between 1935 and 2021 is also not of such great concern to me. I'm interested in the history mostly to the extent that I want to make sure that what we currently teach about that history is accurate and not distorted.
I have other interests in history, more generally, because I find it fascinating. Not just religious history, but all kinds of history. I always learn about various mundane themes (sociology, class, leadership, politics, psychology) that seem relevant as historical situations tend to be repeated.
Also, my great-grandfather was a "Pilgrim" in the Chicago Bible Students who traveled with Russell to speak at conventions, and he continued on under Rutherford. He said that most of the Chicago Bible Students were "Russellites," as he himself had been, and most of them left under Rutherford. Some of his "brethren" had left even earlier. Some had left in 1909 over doctrinal issues (New Covenant, "The Vow") some in 1914 and 1915 over failed predictions and expectations. So I admit that some family stories and "artifacts" of the Bible Student era hold my interest for more mundane reasons, too.
Even if the original organization had been no more than another faction of Catholicism or Protestantism that didn't believe in Trinity, Hellfire or War, that would be more than enough of a good start. My only expectation, historically, is that it would continue to progress, to put off more and more false teachings. Then we should find some evidence of Jehovah's blessing as it should attract more people who are looking for a kind of Christianity with a reasonable core of Biblical values and therefore find a brotherhood that encourages and promotes Christian conduct and activities. But the foundation is Christ, not the Organization. 

Pudgy may have noticed that Thinking has posted a lengthy comment on the closed forum that touches on this discussion. She notes that Witness has asked her to unblock. ‘No way,’ she says. She considers Witness demon inspired and likens communicating with her to playing with the ouji board or the tarot cards.

Pudgy may have noticed that Thinking has posted a lengthy comment on the closed forum that touches on this discussion. She notes that Witness has asked her to unblock. ‘No way,’ she says. She considers Witness demon inspired and likens communicating with her to playing with the ouji board or the tarot cards.

I tagged her. That’s enough. She’s chosen not to respond. She has participated since on the closed forum. For whatever personal reason, she said it took boldness for her to stand up to Witness. She also said that, in person, Witness is a very nice lady. You’d never know it from what she posts.
If it were a matter of some importance, I might pursue it further. But its not. It is also possible that Witness is Pearl Doxey. The way she kisses up to that woman makes me wonder.
You would.
and it used to be such a Mona Lisa.
 
WHOA! White knight Walter to the rescue!

I’ve no idea. She is in Australia and I don’t think wants to spell out further details on the web. I’m content that Witness pulled up the post that I would have pulled up had I put the time into it. I’ll concede it shows I didn’t hit a home run. More like a double.

I’ve no idea. She is in Australia and I don’t think wants to spell out further details on the web. I’m content that Witness pulled up the post that I would have pulled up had I put the time into it. I’ll concede it shows I didn’t hit a home run. More like a double.

Okay, close enough, and it saves me the trouble of searching, which I’m not sure I would have gotten around to.
The point is that it is a weird kind of writing that Witness does, with an unhealthy obsession over ‘anointing.’ She eats, sleeps, drinks, dreams, and sweats ‘anointing.’ @xero chimes in out of nowhere that it gives him the creeps. It strikes him as demonic.  He’s not the only one.
And the only thing she has more than a fleeting interest in is to malign her ‘rival’ anointed, the GB, so that you cannot avoid the feeling that she’s furious people look to them and not her.  She litters her posts with scores of scriptures that apply only in her mind, and always seems to miss the ones that actually do apply.
Dress it up anyway you will but it plays like one of those superhuman Avenger movies, with freaks doing battle on another realm, while we mere mortals on earth merely want to live our lives in peace.
She even chases away that other arch-enemy, Patiently Sitting on my Hands, and as much as he despises the earthly organization, no less than she does, you know she’s got to be creepy to do that!

Okay, close enough, and it saves me the trouble of searching, which I’m not sure I would have gotten around to.
The point is that it is a weird kind of writing that Witness does, with an unhealthy obsession over ‘anointing.’ She eats, sleeps, drinks, dreams, and sweats ‘anointing.’ @xero chimes in out of nowhere that it gives him the creeps. It strikes him as demonic.  He’s not the only one.
And the only thing she has more than a fleeting interest in is to malign her ‘rival’ anointed, the GB, so that you cannot avoid the feeling that she’s furious people look to them and not her.  She litters her posts with scores of scriptures that apply only in her mind, and always seems to miss the ones that actually do apply.
Dress it up anyway you will but it plays like one of those superhuman Avenger movies, with freaks doing battle on another realm, while we mere mortals on earth merely want to live our lives in peace.
She even chases away that other arch-enemy, Patiently Sitting on my Hands, and as much as he despises the earthly organization, no less than she does, you know she’s got to be creepy to do that!

Relax, I’ll beat @xeroup later. I think you eat, drink, live, breathe, and perspire ‘anointed’ a little too much.

Uh oh. Don’t challenge her to that! She’ll throw at you every verse in the Bible, though to be sure, none of them apply.

Yes, I’m sure you care about your mother but you appear to care more about insulting her beliefs—and thereby her for being stupid enough to hold them. Try respecting her beliefs and stop carrying on about her being “ordered” to this or that because it is not the way she would phrase it, nor is it true.

You can probably trust your first instincts. A participant here, who knows her personally, says it comes out as though automatic writing.

Relax, I’ll beat @xeroup later. I think you eat, drink, live, breathe, and perspire ‘anointed’ a little too much.

Oh yeah, that electrical storm last week was a downright embarrassment. I knew heads would roll and they’d have to replace some key positions.

If I recall correctly, she wasn’t such a great lady. Matthew complained vehemently about an abusive upbringing. It may even be that he gets back at her by insulting the religion that he holds responsible.

Yes, I’m sure you care about your mother but you appear to care more about insulting her beliefs—and thereby her for being stupid enough to hold them. Try respecting her beliefs and stop carrying on about her being “ordered” to this or that because it is not the way she would phrase it, nor is it true.

Yes, I’m sure you care about your mother but you appear to care more about insulting her beliefs—and thereby her for being stupid enough to hold them. Try respecting her beliefs and stop carrying on about her being “ordered” to this or that because it is not the way she would phrase it, nor is it true.

“Thou hast escaped me! Thou has escaped me!” said Roger Chillingsworth after Arthur Dimmesdale retreated into his closed club, and his very countenance seemed to wither away, his very reason for existence blown to smithereens.

Yes, I’m sure you care about your mother but you appear to care more about insulting her beliefs—and thereby her for being stupid enough to hold them. Try respecting her beliefs and stop carrying on about her being “ordered” to this or that because it is not the way she would phrase it, nor is it true.

Yes, I’m sure you care about your mother but you appear to care more about insulting her beliefs—and thereby her for being stupid enough to hold them. Try respecting her beliefs and stop carrying on about her being “ordered” to this or that because it is not the way she would phrase it, nor is it true.

A person is “assigned” a Kingdom Hall. Some go there, others do not. I have never seen or heard of anyone who was ever sanctioned or criticized for going where they wanted to, at whatever times they normally met. As a young man I and my friends used to go “sister hunting” for wives all over various States.

Yes, I’m sure you care about your mother but you appear to care more about insulting her beliefs—and thereby her for being stupid enough to hold them. Try respecting her beliefs and stop carrying on about her being “ordered” to this or that because it is not the way she would phrase it, nor is it true.