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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    We went through all the Glenn Doman’s number cards with our babies, I am convinced to good effect—and even in the event it was not it was fun and took almost no time.
    At one point, following a Doman cue, we asked our infant to pick up 57, as opposed to 56 and 58, dots all mixed up with no underlying pattern—the number written on the back so you would know. Instantly he did. But Doman said you can’t do it twice; infants get bored and they will not do it for show. Sure enough, when we tried, he would not.
    Coincidence? Dunno. It was a one out of three chance, after all, so coincidence is certainly possible.  But he reached for it instantly, with no hesitation at all.
    The point was, in building your baby’s ‘better’ brain (Yikes!—Building Back Better) that if you see 3 or 4 cows in the field you instantly read them for their true number, but at some point you must start counting, 1…2…3…4…5…. The idea with the flash cards for an infant’s rapidly expanding brain was that you could push way up that point at which you had to start counting; that it could take in 56 at a glance. Doman’s flash cards went up to 100. 
  2. Haha
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Poor boy. Here’s a bone for you. I wasn’t sure this pic had a use but it seems it might work here:
    Sheesh! What a bunch of nut cakes! As goofy as any nasty here
    Never have I seen Jehovah’s Witnesses listed directly below Gangsta Rappers.

  3. Haha
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from JW Insider in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Poor boy. Here’s a bone for you. I wasn’t sure this pic had a use but it seems it might work here:
    Sheesh! What a bunch of nut cakes! As goofy as any nasty here
    Never have I seen Jehovah’s Witnesses listed directly below Gangsta Rappers.

  4. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Thinking in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Poor boy. Here’s a bone for you. I wasn’t sure this pic had a use but it seems it might work here:
    Sheesh! What a bunch of nut cakes! As goofy as any nasty here
    Never have I seen Jehovah’s Witnesses listed directly below Gangsta Rappers.

  5. Thanks
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Arauna in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Poor boy. Here’s a bone for you. I wasn’t sure this pic had a use but it seems it might work here:
    Sheesh! What a bunch of nut cakes! As goofy as any nasty here
    Never have I seen Jehovah’s Witnesses listed directly below Gangsta Rappers.

  6. Thanks
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Pudgy in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Poor boy. Here’s a bone for you. I wasn’t sure this pic had a use but it seems it might work here:
    Sheesh! What a bunch of nut cakes! As goofy as any nasty here
    Never have I seen Jehovah’s Witnesses listed directly below Gangsta Rappers.

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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    “And gas prices rose. David was very distressed because the worldmedianewsforum perennial gripers were talking of stoning him, for all the men had become very bitter over their KH sold to build 50 in developing lands, making them drive further, and they wanted to stone him for a million other reasons too. But David strengthened himself by Jehovah his God. (1 Samuel 30: 5-6) #freewheelingversion.
  8. Haha
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Pudgy in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    It was my undoing. I struck oil on my property around that time and consequentially found I owed millions of dollars.
  9. Haha
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from JW Insider in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    It was my undoing. I struck oil on my property around that time and consequentially found I owed millions of dollars.
  10. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Thinking in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    If they sell it, it’s because the sale of one underperforming Hall in the West can fund the building of 50 in developing lands where they are clamoring for them. So someone has a longer drive twice a week so that 50X friends overseas have a place to meet? Who would object to that?
    Notice how the “bad and worthless” men objected when David proposed a similar equalizing scheme: 
    “However, every bad and worthless man among those who had gone with David said: “Since they did not go with us, we will not give them any of the spoil that we recovered except that each one may take his wife and his sons and go away.”  But David said: “You must not do this, my brothers, with what Jehovah has given us. He protected us and gave into our hand the marauder band that came against us. “
    Why would you promote being bad and worthless?
  11. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Thinking in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    “And gas prices rose. David was very distressed because the worldmedianewsforum perennial gripers were talking of stoning him, for all the men had become very bitter over their KH sold to build 50 in developing lands, making them drive further, and they wanted to stone him for a million other reasons too. But David strengthened himself by Jehovah his God. (1 Samuel 30: 5-6) #freewheelingversion.
  12. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Pudgy in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    If they sell it, it’s because the sale of one underperforming Hall in the West can fund the building of 50 in developing lands where they are clamoring for them. So someone has a longer drive twice a week so that 50X friends overseas have a place to meet? Who would object to that?
    Notice how the “bad and worthless” men objected when David proposed a similar equalizing scheme: 
    “However, every bad and worthless man among those who had gone with David said: “Since they did not go with us, we will not give them any of the spoil that we recovered except that each one may take his wife and his sons and go away.”  But David said: “You must not do this, my brothers, with what Jehovah has given us. He protected us and gave into our hand the marauder band that came against us. “
    Why would you promote being bad and worthless?
  13. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Arauna in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    If they sell it, it’s because the sale of one underperforming Hall in the West can fund the building of 50 in developing lands where they are clamoring for them. So someone has a longer drive twice a week so that 50X friends overseas have a place to meet? Who would object to that?
    Notice how the “bad and worthless” men objected when David proposed a similar equalizing scheme: 
    “However, every bad and worthless man among those who had gone with David said: “Since they did not go with us, we will not give them any of the spoil that we recovered except that each one may take his wife and his sons and go away.”  But David said: “You must not do this, my brothers, with what Jehovah has given us. He protected us and gave into our hand the marauder band that came against us. “
    Why would you promote being bad and worthless?
  14. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Yes, of course. Believing in Jesus whole-heartedly doesn’t mean beans in itself—unless you define “whole-heartedly” as embracing the scriptures you included:

    Though the crazy faux-anointed person here appends scriptures to her comments for tonnage, she can never find the relevant ones, as you have.  
    When it comes to who will be saved, the Christian organization is not authorized to go beyond what the scripture plainly says: 
    “Baptism, which corresponds to this, is also now saving you…” (1 Peter 3:21)
    If they have any private thoughts on this, those they must keep to themselves. Of course, baptism assumes doing it the biblical way, not the sprinkled baptism of infants, not the baptism to the hellfire/trinity God. 
    The governing brothers choose not to speculate on this matter. They choose to be bounded by 1 Peter 3:21. We, who do not have a worldwide association of brothers to coach, (though Her Craziness thinks she does) are freer to speculate. When a loved one of mine was asked specifically whether this one or that one will be saved, she replied that she was not Jesus and didn’t know.
    The organization does the best it can. Not all scriptures dovetail. It remains to be seen how certain things will work out. “You will by no means complete the circuit of the cities of Israel until the Son of man arrives.” (Matt 10:23) throws a monkey wrench into worldwide coverage. This verse has been cited to show not every person will be adequately reached, maybe not at all, so the question arises just what is God going to do about that come Armageddon? From what I can recall, they only gingerly touch that one. (They have said in the past that the mentally incompetent should get a free pass, so maybe we’re all okay here.)
    At any rate, the Watchtower statement to carry the day is easily found on the website. To the question, “Do Jehovah’s Witnesses feel they are the only ones who will be saved?” included in the answer is: “In any case, it’s not our job to judge who will or won’t be saved. That assignment rests squarely in Jesus’ hands.” If they have seemed to judge in the past, it’s because they don’t feel free to blow away1 Peter 3:21 as though it were nothing.
    https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/who-saved/
    Then, too, from the Insight book (under the topic Destruction) comes this beaut, that indicates we don’t even know ones destroyed by Jehovah suffer eternal destruction: 
    The Bible indicates that not all destruction is eternal. This is demonstrated by the fact that the Hebrew word ʼavad·dohnʹ (destruction) is used twice to parallel “Sheol.” (Job 26:6; Pr 15:11) ….When speaking of the destruction of the rebels Dathan and Abiram, Moses wrote that they went down “alive into Sheol.” (Nu 16:31, 33) Since Sheol in the Bible denotes the common grave of mankind from which there will be a resurrection, it is evident that not all destruction—not even all destruction at the hand of God—is necessarily eternal.
    So even Patiently Sitting on his Hands, that piece of work, who thinks he will not survive Armageddon and assumes that gives him the stature to advise others….well, maybe he is right and he won’t survive and still I’ll see that dodo on the other side someday, in which case I’ll take back the bad things I’ve said about him and maybe he’ll do the same with me.
  15. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    It’s the 42 anointed who met together after they were ordered not to in order to baptize without asking each other a ton of questions.
  16. Haha
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Arauna in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    It’s the 42 anointed who met together after they were ordered not to in order to baptize without asking each other a ton of questions.
  17. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Thinking in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Yes, of course. Believing in Jesus whole-heartedly doesn’t mean beans in itself—unless you define “whole-heartedly” as embracing the scriptures you included:

    Though the crazy faux-anointed person here appends scriptures to her comments for tonnage, she can never find the relevant ones, as you have.  
    When it comes to who will be saved, the Christian organization is not authorized to go beyond what the scripture plainly says: 
    “Baptism, which corresponds to this, is also now saving you…” (1 Peter 3:21)
    If they have any private thoughts on this, those they must keep to themselves. Of course, baptism assumes doing it the biblical way, not the sprinkled baptism of infants, not the baptism to the hellfire/trinity God. 
    The governing brothers choose not to speculate on this matter. They choose to be bounded by 1 Peter 3:21. We, who do not have a worldwide association of brothers to coach, (though Her Craziness thinks she does) are freer to speculate. When a loved one of mine was asked specifically whether this one or that one will be saved, she replied that she was not Jesus and didn’t know.
    The organization does the best it can. Not all scriptures dovetail. It remains to be seen how certain things will work out. “You will by no means complete the circuit of the cities of Israel until the Son of man arrives.” (Matt 10:23) throws a monkey wrench into worldwide coverage. This verse has been cited to show not every person will be adequately reached, maybe not at all, so the question arises just what is God going to do about that come Armageddon? From what I can recall, they only gingerly touch that one. (They have said in the past that the mentally incompetent should get a free pass, so maybe we’re all okay here.)
    At any rate, the Watchtower statement to carry the day is easily found on the website. To the question, “Do Jehovah’s Witnesses feel they are the only ones who will be saved?” included in the answer is: “In any case, it’s not our job to judge who will or won’t be saved. That assignment rests squarely in Jesus’ hands.” If they have seemed to judge in the past, it’s because they don’t feel free to blow away1 Peter 3:21 as though it were nothing.
    https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/who-saved/
    Then, too, from the Insight book (under the topic Destruction) comes this beaut, that indicates we don’t even know ones destroyed by Jehovah suffer eternal destruction: 
    The Bible indicates that not all destruction is eternal. This is demonstrated by the fact that the Hebrew word ʼavad·dohnʹ (destruction) is used twice to parallel “Sheol.” (Job 26:6; Pr 15:11) ….When speaking of the destruction of the rebels Dathan and Abiram, Moses wrote that they went down “alive into Sheol.” (Nu 16:31, 33) Since Sheol in the Bible denotes the common grave of mankind from which there will be a resurrection, it is evident that not all destruction—not even all destruction at the hand of God—is necessarily eternal.
    So even Patiently Sitting on his Hands, that piece of work, who thinks he will not survive Armageddon and assumes that gives him the stature to advise others….well, maybe he is right and he won’t survive and still I’ll see that dodo on the other side someday, in which case I’ll take back the bad things I’ve said about him and maybe he’ll do the same with me.
  18. Haha
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from JW Insider in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    It’s the 42 anointed who met together after they were ordered not to in order to baptize without asking each other a ton of questions.
  19. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley reacted to JW Insider in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    I thought the WT study on Sunday was perfect. It was about readiness for baptism, but the primary theme was about stripping off the old personality and putting on a new Christian personality. People complain about the idea that we tie baptism to an organization. But the primary intention is alway about doing our best to meet the standards of Jehovah's heavenly organization, an organization that only INCLUDES an imperfect earthly part. Also, I don't think that anyone would complain that an Amish baptism is meant to identify you as part of an Amish church, for example. All well-organized churches keep membership roles.
    But back to the WT article. It should be clear that baptism discussions are never about an organizational focus. It's always more about our Christian personality. I don't think even the die-hard WTS haters would find a thing wrong with last Sunday's WT article.
  20. Haha
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Yes, of course. Believing in Jesus whole-heartedly doesn’t mean beans in itself—unless you define “whole-heartedly” as embracing the scriptures you included:

    Though the crazy faux-anointed person here appends scriptures to her comments for tonnage, she can never find the relevant ones, as you have.  
    When it comes to who will be saved, the Christian organization is not authorized to go beyond what the scripture plainly says: 
    “Baptism, which corresponds to this, is also now saving you…” (1 Peter 3:21)
    If they have any private thoughts on this, those they must keep to themselves. Of course, baptism assumes doing it the biblical way, not the sprinkled baptism of infants, not the baptism to the hellfire/trinity God. 
    The governing brothers choose not to speculate on this matter. They choose to be bounded by 1 Peter 3:21. We, who do not have a worldwide association of brothers to coach, (though Her Craziness thinks she does) are freer to speculate. When a loved one of mine was asked specifically whether this one or that one will be saved, she replied that she was not Jesus and didn’t know.
    The organization does the best it can. Not all scriptures dovetail. It remains to be seen how certain things will work out. “You will by no means complete the circuit of the cities of Israel until the Son of man arrives.” (Matt 10:23) throws a monkey wrench into worldwide coverage. This verse has been cited to show not every person will be adequately reached, maybe not at all, so the question arises just what is God going to do about that come Armageddon? From what I can recall, they only gingerly touch that one. (They have said in the past that the mentally incompetent should get a free pass, so maybe we’re all okay here.)
    At any rate, the Watchtower statement to carry the day is easily found on the website. To the question, “Do Jehovah’s Witnesses feel they are the only ones who will be saved?” included in the answer is: “In any case, it’s not our job to judge who will or won’t be saved. That assignment rests squarely in Jesus’ hands.” If they have seemed to judge in the past, it’s because they don’t feel free to blow away1 Peter 3:21 as though it were nothing.
    https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/who-saved/
    Then, too, from the Insight book (under the topic Destruction) comes this beaut, that indicates we don’t even know ones destroyed by Jehovah suffer eternal destruction: 
    The Bible indicates that not all destruction is eternal. This is demonstrated by the fact that the Hebrew word ʼavad·dohnʹ (destruction) is used twice to parallel “Sheol.” (Job 26:6; Pr 15:11) ….When speaking of the destruction of the rebels Dathan and Abiram, Moses wrote that they went down “alive into Sheol.” (Nu 16:31, 33) Since Sheol in the Bible denotes the common grave of mankind from which there will be a resurrection, it is evident that not all destruction—not even all destruction at the hand of God—is necessarily eternal.
    So even Patiently Sitting on his Hands, that piece of work, who thinks he will not survive Armageddon and assumes that gives him the stature to advise others….well, maybe he is right and he won’t survive and still I’ll see that dodo on the other side someday, in which case I’ll take back the bad things I’ve said about him and maybe he’ll do the same with me.
  21. Like
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Arauna in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Yes, of course. Believing in Jesus whole-heartedly doesn’t mean beans in itself—unless you define “whole-heartedly” as embracing the scriptures you included:

    Though the crazy faux-anointed person here appends scriptures to her comments for tonnage, she can never find the relevant ones, as you have.  
    When it comes to who will be saved, the Christian organization is not authorized to go beyond what the scripture plainly says: 
    “Baptism, which corresponds to this, is also now saving you…” (1 Peter 3:21)
    If they have any private thoughts on this, those they must keep to themselves. Of course, baptism assumes doing it the biblical way, not the sprinkled baptism of infants, not the baptism to the hellfire/trinity God. 
    The governing brothers choose not to speculate on this matter. They choose to be bounded by 1 Peter 3:21. We, who do not have a worldwide association of brothers to coach, (though Her Craziness thinks she does) are freer to speculate. When a loved one of mine was asked specifically whether this one or that one will be saved, she replied that she was not Jesus and didn’t know.
    The organization does the best it can. Not all scriptures dovetail. It remains to be seen how certain things will work out. “You will by no means complete the circuit of the cities of Israel until the Son of man arrives.” (Matt 10:23) throws a monkey wrench into worldwide coverage. This verse has been cited to show not every person will be adequately reached, maybe not at all, so the question arises just what is God going to do about that come Armageddon? From what I can recall, they only gingerly touch that one. (They have said in the past that the mentally incompetent should get a free pass, so maybe we’re all okay here.)
    At any rate, the Watchtower statement to carry the day is easily found on the website. To the question, “Do Jehovah’s Witnesses feel they are the only ones who will be saved?” included in the answer is: “In any case, it’s not our job to judge who will or won’t be saved. That assignment rests squarely in Jesus’ hands.” If they have seemed to judge in the past, it’s because they don’t feel free to blow away1 Peter 3:21 as though it were nothing.
    https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/who-saved/
    Then, too, from the Insight book (under the topic Destruction) comes this beaut, that indicates we don’t even know ones destroyed by Jehovah suffer eternal destruction: 
    The Bible indicates that not all destruction is eternal. This is demonstrated by the fact that the Hebrew word ʼavad·dohnʹ (destruction) is used twice to parallel “Sheol.” (Job 26:6; Pr 15:11) ….When speaking of the destruction of the rebels Dathan and Abiram, Moses wrote that they went down “alive into Sheol.” (Nu 16:31, 33) Since Sheol in the Bible denotes the common grave of mankind from which there will be a resurrection, it is evident that not all destruction—not even all destruction at the hand of God—is necessarily eternal.
    So even Patiently Sitting on his Hands, that piece of work, who thinks he will not survive Armageddon and assumes that gives him the stature to advise others….well, maybe he is right and he won’t survive and still I’ll see that dodo on the other side someday, in which case I’ll take back the bad things I’ve said about him and maybe he’ll do the same with me.
  22. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Pudgy in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Yes, of course. Believing in Jesus whole-heartedly doesn’t mean beans in itself—unless you define “whole-heartedly” as embracing the scriptures you included:

    Though the crazy faux-anointed person here appends scriptures to her comments for tonnage, she can never find the relevant ones, as you have.  
    When it comes to who will be saved, the Christian organization is not authorized to go beyond what the scripture plainly says: 
    “Baptism, which corresponds to this, is also now saving you…” (1 Peter 3:21)
    If they have any private thoughts on this, those they must keep to themselves. Of course, baptism assumes doing it the biblical way, not the sprinkled baptism of infants, not the baptism to the hellfire/trinity God. 
    The governing brothers choose not to speculate on this matter. They choose to be bounded by 1 Peter 3:21. We, who do not have a worldwide association of brothers to coach, (though Her Craziness thinks she does) are freer to speculate. When a loved one of mine was asked specifically whether this one or that one will be saved, she replied that she was not Jesus and didn’t know.
    The organization does the best it can. Not all scriptures dovetail. It remains to be seen how certain things will work out. “You will by no means complete the circuit of the cities of Israel until the Son of man arrives.” (Matt 10:23) throws a monkey wrench into worldwide coverage. This verse has been cited to show not every person will be adequately reached, maybe not at all, so the question arises just what is God going to do about that come Armageddon? From what I can recall, they only gingerly touch that one. (They have said in the past that the mentally incompetent should get a free pass, so maybe we’re all okay here.)
    At any rate, the Watchtower statement to carry the day is easily found on the website. To the question, “Do Jehovah’s Witnesses feel they are the only ones who will be saved?” included in the answer is: “In any case, it’s not our job to judge who will or won’t be saved. That assignment rests squarely in Jesus’ hands.” If they have seemed to judge in the past, it’s because they don’t feel free to blow away1 Peter 3:21 as though it were nothing.
    https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/who-saved/
    Then, too, from the Insight book (under the topic Destruction) comes this beaut, that indicates we don’t even know ones destroyed by Jehovah suffer eternal destruction: 
    The Bible indicates that not all destruction is eternal. This is demonstrated by the fact that the Hebrew word ʼavad·dohnʹ (destruction) is used twice to parallel “Sheol.” (Job 26:6; Pr 15:11) ….When speaking of the destruction of the rebels Dathan and Abiram, Moses wrote that they went down “alive into Sheol.” (Nu 16:31, 33) Since Sheol in the Bible denotes the common grave of mankind from which there will be a resurrection, it is evident that not all destruction—not even all destruction at the hand of God—is necessarily eternal.
    So even Patiently Sitting on his Hands, that piece of work, who thinks he will not survive Armageddon and assumes that gives him the stature to advise others….well, maybe he is right and he won’t survive and still I’ll see that dodo on the other side someday, in which case I’ll take back the bad things I’ve said about him and maybe he’ll do the same with me.
  23. Haha
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from JW Insider in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    From what I hear the local saying is, “Dan has killed his thousands and xero his tens of thousands.”
  24. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Sure. I have no idea who will be saved or not. Nor does it make any difference to my personal responsibility to make known the good news.
  25. Haha
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Ha! Right in the title we see how JWI is playing with us all, up to his old tricks of putting the cart before the horse:
    How a Christmas song would lead me to beleive that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.
    Is it “I before E except after L?” I don’t think so.
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