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    TrueTomHarley reacted to Pudgy in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    Cartoon dogs are completely lacking in rear end “equipment”. Oh sure! … we eat, and drink, but after that nothing happens. 
    This became the norm after the defeat that ended the 1870’s French Poodle Cartoonists Rebellion.

  2. Haha
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Thinking in How a Christmas song would lead me to believe that our 1914 teaching must be right after all.   
    WHAT!!?? After I have overhauled my entire theology?!
    Thanks a lot, bub! I’m sending Pudgy over to pee on your leg.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in The state subsidy is denied to WTJWorg in Norway   
    Probably so. But not without consequences. The book ‘Secular Faith’ (Mark Smith) reassures its secular audience that religion comes around to secular trends. It may take a bit longer, but it happens. And that is the goal of such policies as this in Denmark. 
    He examines five contentious issues in America’s past (slavery, divorce, homosexuality, abortion, woman’s rights) and concludes modern church members have more in common with contemporary atheists than they do with their own church counterparts of long ago. In the absence of firmness, spiritual values erode.
    Thus far, the ECHR has declined to reinterpret religious interpretations of scriptural text. If you tax-exempt one faith, you must tax-exempt them all. (You don’t have to tax-exempt any of them.)
    With the Ukraine war raging, they may even remind the Danish governments that invading troops are drawn from virtually every background of religious belief and secular disbelief except Jehovah’s Witnesses, and that perhaps if the latter were forced to accommodate dissenting views that might not be. They would learn to ‘modernize’—look to secular direction rather than ecclesiastical direciton, and thus in time be talked into anything by the ‘king,’ who can always mold the consciousness of his citizenry.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from JW Insider in The state subsidy is denied to WTJWorg in Norway   
    Probably so. But not without consequences. The book ‘Secular Faith’ (Mark Smith) reassures its secular audience that religion comes around to secular trends. It may take a bit longer, but it happens. And that is the goal of such policies as this in Denmark. 
    He examines five contentious issues in America’s past (slavery, divorce, homosexuality, abortion, woman’s rights) and concludes modern church members have more in common with contemporary atheists than they do with their own church counterparts of long ago. In the absence of firmness, spiritual values erode.
    Thus far, the ECHR has declined to reinterpret religious interpretations of scriptural text. If you tax-exempt one faith, you must tax-exempt them all. (You don’t have to tax-exempt any of them.)
    With the Ukraine war raging, they may even remind the Danish governments that invading troops are drawn from virtually every background of religious belief and secular disbelief except Jehovah’s Witnesses, and that perhaps if the latter were forced to accommodate dissenting views that might not be. They would learn to ‘modernize’—look to secular direction rather than ecclesiastical direciton, and thus in time be talked into anything by the ‘king,’ who can always mold the consciousness of his citizenry.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Not a chance. (unfortunately)
    When you drift away, sometimes. When you stomp your feet leaving the sheepfold, less often. When you thereafter turn your flamethrower upon it….
  6. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I admit this is true. “What does Patiently Sitting on his Hands really have to say?” I ask myself 20 times a day. But every time I pick up my phone to call and elder glares in the window. “Don’t you even think it, TrueTom!” he orders.
    “And to the congregation in WorldMedialand. What can I say? You put up with dodos, imposters, and saboteurs! What on earth is wrong with you?!”
     
    Not even God? Where’s the faith? Just today at the Watchtower Study we met someone (Uzziah) whose downfall he caused. Seems to me the authority of the GB looms far larger to you than it does to any of the JWs you squabble with. The latter simply know that any project needs headship and feel overall that they’re doing an acceptable job. They don’t occupy anywhere near the place of prominence in our minds as they do in yours.
  7. Haha
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Agreed!
    That said, you flea-bitten mutt, if you ever downvote me I’m calling the pound.
  8. Haha
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Not a chance. (unfortunately)
    When you drift away, sometimes. When you stomp your feet leaving the sheepfold, less often. When you thereafter turn your flamethrower upon it….
  9. Haha
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I admit this is true. “What does Patiently Sitting on his Hands really have to say?” I ask myself 20 times a day. But every time I pick up my phone to call and elder glares in the window. “Don’t you even think it, TrueTom!” he orders.
    “And to the congregation in WorldMedialand. What can I say? You put up with dodos, imposters, and saboteurs! What on earth is wrong with you?!”
     
    Not even God? Where’s the faith? Just today at the Watchtower Study we met someone (Uzziah) whose downfall he caused. Seems to me the authority of the GB looms far larger to you than it does to any of the JWs you squabble with. The latter simply know that any project needs headship and feel overall that they’re doing an acceptable job. They don’t occupy anywhere near the place of prominence in our minds as they do in yours.
  10. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Thinking in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Not a chance. (unfortunately)
    When you drift away, sometimes. When you stomp your feet leaving the sheepfold, less often. When you thereafter turn your flamethrower upon it….
  11. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Thinking in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I admit this is true. “What does Patiently Sitting on his Hands really have to say?” I ask myself 20 times a day. But every time I pick up my phone to call and elder glares in the window. “Don’t you even think it, TrueTom!” he orders.
    “And to the congregation in WorldMedialand. What can I say? You put up with dodos, imposters, and saboteurs! What on earth is wrong with you?!”
     
    Not even God? Where’s the faith? Just today at the Watchtower Study we met someone (Uzziah) whose downfall he caused. Seems to me the authority of the GB looms far larger to you than it does to any of the JWs you squabble with. The latter simply know that any project needs headship and feel overall that they’re doing an acceptable job. They don’t occupy anywhere near the place of prominence in our minds as they do in yours.
  12. Haha
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Thinking in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Agreed!
    That said, you flea-bitten mutt, if you ever downvote me I’m calling the pound.
  13. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Thinking in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    No. They upvoted because you are a dodo. You can’t even get the reason for your unpopularity straight.
    It looks from this .like they bent over backwards to make things easier for you. The endless bellyaching you do about being shunned—they would have spared you that. But no—you made it clear you no longer wished to be one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. So later an announcement is read at the Hall: “Patiently Sitting on his Hands is no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses” and the brothers treat you accordingly. You brought it all on yourself, not necessarily by lapping up ill reports, but by your hastiness to assign wicked motives to your brothers.
    You could have avoided your shunning, with no stain on yourself. Were you convinced some great injustice was being done, you could have waited on Jehovah to rectify things. He’s God, you know. He can fix things. Possibly had you found something better…well, then I can see a departure.  But no. In your quest to prove yourself more righteous than anyone else you put yourself in a place where you can no longer remember how the death of Christ benefits humanity, nor how God’s name is universally pronounced in the Western world. You willingly put yourself in a place where you don’t expect to survive, separating yourself from your former brothers who do expect to survive based upon their faith in Christ’s sacrifice. No wonder they want nothing to do with you.
     
  14. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Thinking in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    It hardly matters, does it? You can fart all you want and as along as there is plenty of space between you and your neighbor, there are no real consequences. But when population, technology, and competition for resources bring people shoulders to shoulder, your unpleasant ways provoke strong reaction.
    So it is with the world today. At any time, applying godly wisdom would have been beneficial. In our time it become crucial.  
  15. Like
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from xero in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Not a chance. (unfortunately)
    When you drift away, sometimes. When you stomp your feet leaving the sheepfold, less often. When you thereafter turn your flamethrower upon it….
  16. Haha
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    No. They upvoted because you are a dodo. You can’t even get the reason for your unpopularity straight.
    It looks from this .like they bent over backwards to make things easier for you. The endless bellyaching you do about being shunned—they would have spared you that. But no—you made it clear you no longer wished to be one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. So later an announcement is read at the Hall: “Patiently Sitting on his Hands is no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses” and the brothers treat you accordingly. You brought it all on yourself, not necessarily by lapping up ill reports, but by your hastiness to assign wicked motives to your brothers.
    You could have avoided your shunning, with no stain on yourself. Were you convinced some great injustice was being done, you could have waited on Jehovah to rectify things. He’s God, you know. He can fix things. Possibly had you found something better…well, then I can see a departure.  But no. In your quest to prove yourself more righteous than anyone else you put yourself in a place where you can no longer remember how the death of Christ benefits humanity, nor how God’s name is universally pronounced in the Western world. You willingly put yourself in a place where you don’t expect to survive, separating yourself from your former brothers who do expect to survive based upon their faith in Christ’s sacrifice. No wonder they want nothing to do with you.
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Pudgy in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    No. They upvoted because you are a dodo. You can’t even get the reason for your unpopularity straight.
    It looks from this .like they bent over backwards to make things easier for you. The endless bellyaching you do about being shunned—they would have spared you that. But no—you made it clear you no longer wished to be one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. So later an announcement is read at the Hall: “Patiently Sitting on his Hands is no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses” and the brothers treat you accordingly. You brought it all on yourself, not necessarily by lapping up ill reports, but by your hastiness to assign wicked motives to your brothers.
    You could have avoided your shunning, with no stain on yourself. Were you convinced some great injustice was being done, you could have waited on Jehovah to rectify things. He’s God, you know. He can fix things. Possibly had you found something better…well, then I can see a departure.  But no. In your quest to prove yourself more righteous than anyone else you put yourself in a place where you can no longer remember how the death of Christ benefits humanity, nor how God’s name is universally pronounced in the Western world. You willingly put yourself in a place where you don’t expect to survive, separating yourself from your former brothers who do expect to survive based upon their faith in Christ’s sacrifice. No wonder they want nothing to do with you.
     
  18. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    No. They upvoted because you are a dodo. You can’t even get the reason for your unpopularity straight.
    It looks from this .like they bent over backwards to make things easier for you. The endless bellyaching you do about being shunned—they would have spared you that. But no—you made it clear you no longer wished to be one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. So later an announcement is read at the Hall: “Patiently Sitting on his Hands is no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses” and the brothers treat you accordingly. You brought it all on yourself, not necessarily by lapping up ill reports, but by your hastiness to assign wicked motives to your brothers.
    You could have avoided your shunning, with no stain on yourself. Were you convinced some great injustice was being done, you could have waited on Jehovah to rectify things. He’s God, you know. He can fix things. Possibly had you found something better…well, then I can see a departure.  But no. In your quest to prove yourself more righteous than anyone else you put yourself in a place where you can no longer remember how the death of Christ benefits humanity, nor how God’s name is universally pronounced in the Western world. You willingly put yourself in a place where you don’t expect to survive, separating yourself from your former brothers who do expect to survive based upon their faith in Christ’s sacrifice. No wonder they want nothing to do with you.
     
  19. Like
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from xero in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    It hardly matters, does it? You can fart all you want and as along as there is plenty of space between you and your neighbor, there are no real consequences. But when population, technology, and competition for resources bring people shoulders to shoulder, your unpleasant ways provoke strong reaction.
    So it is with the world today. At any time, applying godly wisdom would have been beneficial. In our time it become crucial.  
  20. Haha
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in The JW.Org Forum   
    A club is so you don’t have to suffer an endless torrent of dodos, saboteurs, and serious malcontents.
  21. Downvote
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in I have a question about your memorial.   
    Drop the ‘Jesus’ because the name is definitely anglicized and you offend him when you say it. 
    Or join the ranks of reasonable people, acknowledge that names adapt when translated into different languages, and say ‘Jehovah.’
  22. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Arauna in I have a question about your memorial.   
    Drop the ‘Jesus’ because the name is definitely anglicized and you offend him when you say it. 
    Or join the ranks of reasonable people, acknowledge that names adapt when translated into different languages, and say ‘Jehovah.’
  23. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    It hardly matters, does it? You can fart all you want and as along as there is plenty of space between you and your neighbor, there are no real consequences. But when population, technology, and competition for resources bring people shoulders to shoulder, your unpleasant ways provoke strong reaction.
    So it is with the world today. At any time, applying godly wisdom would have been beneficial. In our time it become crucial.  
  24. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley reacted to Thinking in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    such dreadful things have happened…it is devastating  that some men in positions of power or authority can wield  a ignorant understanding of Christs Law over a cong…it does happen…I don’t understand at times why some cannot see that it happens…perhaps because they cannot imagine that Jehovah would allow such things amongst his people…yet that in itself means they do not understand how Jehovah works..what he allows..and why….and it has ALWAYS happened amongst his people…because we are not yet under his full blessings and care.
    But there is good too..kindness and acts of brotherly love that I cannot find elsewhere,,,and I want to remind you…that it was loving brothers that corrected my dreadful situation…yes it was too late….but they did act…and were as devastated over the situation nearly as I…..they were the kind and good brothers in places of authority…they out number the bad…and even the bad after discipline may very well be forgiven…and as I write this I know if I picked up my phone to my loving kind elders..(of whom I don’t always agree with) and ask for help…I know they will be there for me.
       Being used as a people does not mean he finds us all acceptable….or as once taught that the organization as perfect….far from it….but what you are doing is not acceptable either ….you dont have it all correct either…and you have as much sin to carry around as I do…or any other brother and sister…and to who ever you associate with…they also cannot do what Jehovah has a achieved with this imperfect people assembled before him…and it’s even going to take Jesus a thousand years to get it all right…not because of his lack of power…but because how degraded we as humans have become.
    Even his people at this time have become more degraded than fifty years ago….I wish I had the understanding  I have now …twenty years ago….not in chronology or in getting an exact understanding of every little bit of law…and scripture….but in Jehovah himself and why and how he teaches his peoples…in what he’s really like..and why he does certain things and why he allows certain things…
    At times I wish I had my time in the truth all over again…but I was a babe..and I had to grow and mature..and yet I’m still a babe In Jehovahs eyes…and even those that direct us go thru the same experience… they don’t do everything right either…just like Moses never got it right…just as we get a bit of wisdom we are ready for the grave …as we die like gnats at this time of the end.
    My and my families experience has forced me thru the fire of refinement…and a long hard look at what Jehovah has forgiven me for….certainly makes me stand before him as if naked and ashamed…..try to remember that you don’t serve a organization…you don’t serve the GB…but you serve Jehovah and his Son….you must hold on to that…and endure…ENDURE ENDURE ENDURE And  be kind to other brothers and sister trying to stay afloat and never ever endanger their faith that may be getting tested…never ever be the one to extinguish  a flickering flame of faith….because Jehovahs watching one’s like you and me..and he will treat us as we have treated others…and as far as ones like Space Merchant making it….I think you will find Jehovah has that all in hand as well….in fact we need to be thankful that Jehovah even gave one’s like you and me a sideways glance…
  25. Haha
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Thinking in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    High on the clouds of heaven appeared the avenger to downvote them all, great and small.
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