TrueTomHarley

Nor would any Witness ever attack Matthew’s people, those meeting refugees at the border with aid. We don’t attack his people, yet he attacks ours!
On the American news network last night was a man, he looked middle Eastern, (American news is always very careful to point out people’s ethnicity) who at his own expense was distributing hot drinks and food to refugees from his own food truck. We would never criticize such efforts. The man deserves nothing but praise. Yet Matthew is incensed that there should be Christians who allow themselves to be guided by the verse you pointed out, Galatians 6:10): "...let us work what is good toward all, but especially toward those related to us in the faith." That Bible verse seems to really bother him.
The most criticism Jehovah’s Witnesses will ever make of the effort Matthew rightly holds in high esteem is that they are, at best, stopgap efforts. Adopting the Jehovah’s Witness view of life will stop wartime suffering. Adopting his view of life will not.
The refugee system is overwhelmed. Somewhere I read that Brits are being asked to take refugees into their homes. How can anyone not admire the generosity of those who actually do? Nothing but praise for them here. Yet—it is easier said than done. Taking people from the general population into your home, you don’t know what you will get. Will it be a story of pure human altruism? Hopefully yes. But there will also be some who…
Alcoholism is rife today, as is drug usage. Have you ever had an alcoholic in your home? You’ll find you can quickly become an enabler. Your fine qualities will not rub off on him/her as much as his corrosive qualities will undermine your household. Suppose you find that your new guests do not live by Bible sexual morality. Will you have a problem with that under your roof? There is even the distinction between “each will carry his own load” while we “carry the burdens of one another.” Those trained by Bible principles know the difference. While grateful that their brother should share their burden, they work toward carrying their load as soon as possible. Many non-Witnesses will do this too, yet it cannot be assumed, just as the alcohol, drugs, and morality issues cannot.
There really is value in having “left the harmful way.” Jehovah’s people, with minor allowance for human imperfection, have done that and endeavor do continue doing that. They get the sense of Jesus words that the world has been judged for its opposition to God as is slated for destruction by God’s approaching kingdom. The vast majority of religion, however, does not get the sense of it. Their goal (is it that of Matthew’s church?) is to save the world, to fix it. Jesus’ position is “to come out of it.” Only from that advantageous position can one effectively lend a helping hand. For this reason Jehovah’s people will help the general populace as the occasion arises, but they rightly focus on following Paul’s counsel to above all help their own brothers.
Even during times of war, even when physical help is appropriate, the best help you can offer people is the teaching of God’s promises is in Bible (which silly people call “recruiting”) Thereby you find that by teaching the best way of life you have “taught persons how to fish,” as well as conveyed what works best for resiliency during dangerous time. Nothing but praise here for rendering help to people indiscriminately. But surely to condemn Galatians 6:1 is taking matters too far.

Believe me, I’ve been there.
Still am in many cases.  

Yes, I like this comment from hgp very much. It’s an entirely valid way of looking at things. Jehovah’s Witnesses are united. Churches (in almost all cases typified by trinitarian belief) are not. If they were, Russia’s “trinitarian” soldiers (the vast bulk of the Russian population holds to the ROC faith, though they’re not necessarily active) would simply not turn weapons upon their fellow Christians. 
Only this bit of hyperbole undermines the remark some:
They’re usually not “happy” about it. But they do it nonetheless, and that makes the point even more powerful. The Witnesses’ love for God and fellow man, fortified by a united human organization, prevents them from picking up arms against their fellow man. Many there are in ‘Christendom’—perhaps even most, who are basically decent people, desirous of peace. But because they don’t have the same principles and unity of Jehovah’s Witnesses, the national ‘king’ finds them easy to maneuver to support whatever is the warlike project of the day.

It’s sort of like when Noah, not seeing the point of God’s direction, asked for a hint.
”How long can you tread water?” was the reply.

Yeah.
I read an evolutionist book by Sean Carroll, partly to answer back the atheists who would say I never did. He complains again and again about “evolution denyers,” It was like the pebble in my shoe that over time drives me nuts. How come he can’t spell the word right? He’s been to college & grad school, even has a PhD. Is he doing it just for the sake of ridicule? But that would seem childish.
https://www.tomsheepandgoats.com/2011/08/sean-carroll-and-the-den-yers.html
 

Did you not say (about 2 years ago) that you expect the end within 5 years? Or was it 10? (I think it was 5, leaving you only 3 for wiggle room.
Yeah, it’s called not knowing the immediate future.
But when Quinn the true Eskimo gets here everybody’s gonna want a dose.

No no no, you’ve got it all wrong. I did not say charities are attacking Jw. I said you were. It is the first thing you did on this thread started by another person: find fault with Witnesses focusing on their own rather than aiding indiscriminately. I did not criticize other aid-workers. I praised them, as did Thinking. But you criticized our efforts.
Well, maybe this accounts for it. If you come in contact with nuts given to strong statements—well, it really is so that people reap what they sow. But even so, I suspect you are being selective. Unbalanced people are everywhere and a mature person learns to screen them out. (Granted, they don’t make that easy.) In T.I & Me I related how Bro Bob said something truly outrageous, that brothers determined to stand at the convention had jumped and beaten up the attendant carrying the ‘Please Be Seated’ sign—that this evil report got around and stirred up turmoil throughout the circuit, even district, but eventually truth got its pants on and people learned the source. Upon which they said, “Oh….well…..you know Bob. He says things like that.” I made the incident up, it didn’t actually happen. However there was a Bob, he would say things equally nutty, and (most) people would just cut him slack, focusing instead on his good qualities, which he had in abundance. 
I have no doubt you’re sincere in relating this, nor would I ever say that a person’s own experience is not theirs, but it may also be that your memory is selective. It is not especially uncommon for parents to provide training and have goals for their offspring, nor is it uncommon for teens to feel “attacked” if they do not accede to those goals. I’ll concede that Witness goals include some not of the mainstream, so the “attack” of someone kicking against the goads of parental upbringing may seem greater.
Well, it’s not as though the Bible itself waxes in appreciation for those who oppose and seek to undermine worship. (Ps 3:7—‘Arise, LORD! Deliver me, my God! Strike all my enemies on the jaw; break the teeth of the wicked,” says David.) I know the snippet you speak of.  I know what he said. I know that he meant it. I recall he lit a match, then blew it out without further comment, and that reinforced what he had already said about the likely success of apostates opposing the Christian cause.  And I also know that it is one of the 10,000 things he has said. Everything must be put in context.

It also takes about 2 minutes to figure out any new persona of his. What has he had—20 since I’ve been here? I’ll block them too. I’ve done my time with this fellow. No more. 
Better to sporadically respond to remarks of guys like Srecko. His opposition is unveiled, his dislike for Witnesses loyal to the earthly organization undisguised, and he makes a disagreeable sense, but at least it is sense. You can realistically hope to know where he is coming from.

Not to worry. You’re good here—I mean, relatively.

Besides, unless I am very mistaken (which is possible—there’s only so much you can discern online) you have broken that pattern by softening somewhat. Otherwise, I agree with you that no one has budged one iota.
That makes you the least calcified of all here!
you ‘ol pork chop

Dimitar: Of course! ‘Nothing else about my conduct suggests I am a Witness. Let me deliberately give some false information to see if anyone will pounce on that to attack me!’
Notice how I replied to this remark of Dmitar’s through JWI? Wanna know why? The screenshot at bottom tells it all.
Ah….now life is so peaceful. I mean really. 520 notifications within a month?! Plainly the guy is mentally ill. That’s not so bad in itself. I have suspected that of others here. But combined with his attack-dog malignant paranoid remarks that so often make no sense whatsoever,  it is simply too much. But now I am freeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!

It also takes about 2 minutes to figure out any new persona of his. What has he had—20 since I’ve been here? I’ll block them too. I’ve done my time with this fellow. No more. 
Better to sporadically respond to remarks of guys like Srecko. His opposition is unveiled, his dislike for Witnesses loyal to the earthly organization undisguised, and he makes a disagreeable sense, but at least it is sense. You can realistically hope to know where he is coming from.

It also takes about 2 minutes to figure out any new persona of his. What has he had—20 since I’ve been here? I’ll block them too. I’ve done my time with this fellow. No more. 
Better to sporadically respond to remarks of guys like Srecko. His opposition is unveiled, his dislike for Witnesses loyal to the earthly organization undisguised, and he makes a disagreeable sense, but at least it is sense. You can realistically hope to know where he is coming from.

Dimitar: Of course! ‘Nothing else about my conduct suggests I am a Witness. Let me deliberately give some false information to see if anyone will pounce on that to attack me!’
Notice how I replied to this remark of Dmitar’s through JWI? Wanna know why? The screenshot at bottom tells it all.
Ah….now life is so peaceful. I mean really. 520 notifications within a month?! Plainly the guy is mentally ill. That’s not so bad in itself. I have suspected that of others here. But combined with his attack-dog malignant paranoid remarks that so often make no sense whatsoever,  it is simply too much. But now I am freeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!

It’s as if I using you. Sorry. 
But really, I would not know of his diatribes otherwise. I recommend the course to anyone concerned for their blood pressure. I mean, I’ve got stuff I want to do. Who needs the continual low-level aggravation? I don’t want this wasp stinging me all the time just for the sake of being—well, I have no idea what he is doing! Nobody can figure out his malignancy. Nor can I, but I’m done trying.

It also takes about 2 minutes to figure out any new persona of his. What has he had—20 since I’ve been here? I’ll block them too. I’ve done my time with this fellow. No more. 
Better to sporadically respond to remarks of guys like Srecko. His opposition is unveiled, his dislike for Witnesses loyal to the earthly organization undisguised, and he makes a disagreeable sense, but at least it is sense. You can realistically hope to know where he is coming from.

Nor would any Witness ever attack Matthew’s people, those meeting refugees at the border with aid. We don’t attack his people, yet he attacks ours!
On the American news network last night was a man, he looked middle Eastern, (American news is always very careful to point out people’s ethnicity) who at his own expense was distributing hot drinks and food to refugees from his own food truck. We would never criticize such efforts. The man deserves nothing but praise. Yet Matthew is incensed that there should be Christians who allow themselves to be guided by the verse you pointed out, Galatians 6:10): "...let us work what is good toward all, but especially toward those related to us in the faith." That Bible verse seems to really bother him.
The most criticism Jehovah’s Witnesses will ever make of the effort Matthew rightly holds in high esteem is that they are, at best, stopgap efforts. Adopting the Jehovah’s Witness view of life will stop wartime suffering. Adopting his view of life will not.
The refugee system is overwhelmed. Somewhere I read that Brits are being asked to take refugees into their homes. How can anyone not admire the generosity of those who actually do? Nothing but praise for them here. Yet—it is easier said than done. Taking people from the general population into your home, you don’t know what you will get. Will it be a story of pure human altruism? Hopefully yes. But there will also be some who…
Alcoholism is rife today, as is drug usage. Have you ever had an alcoholic in your home? You’ll find you can quickly become an enabler. Your fine qualities will not rub off on him/her as much as his corrosive qualities will undermine your household. Suppose you find that your new guests do not live by Bible sexual morality. Will you have a problem with that under your roof? There is even the distinction between “each will carry his own load” while we “carry the burdens of one another.” Those trained by Bible principles know the difference. While grateful that their brother should share their burden, they work toward carrying their load as soon as possible. Many non-Witnesses will do this too, yet it cannot be assumed, just as the alcohol, drugs, and morality issues cannot.
There really is value in having “left the harmful way.” Jehovah’s people, with minor allowance for human imperfection, have done that and endeavor do continue doing that. They get the sense of Jesus words that the world has been judged for its opposition to God as is slated for destruction by God’s approaching kingdom. The vast majority of religion, however, does not get the sense of it. Their goal (is it that of Matthew’s church?) is to save the world, to fix it. Jesus’ position is “to come out of it.” Only from that advantageous position can one effectively lend a helping hand. For this reason Jehovah’s people will help the general populace as the occasion arises, but they rightly focus on following Paul’s counsel to above all help their own brothers.
Even during times of war, even when physical help is appropriate, the best help you can offer people is the teaching of God’s promises is in Bible (which silly people call “recruiting”) Thereby you find that by teaching the best way of life you have “taught persons how to fish,” as well as conveyed what works best for resiliency during dangerous time. Nothing but praise here for rendering help to people indiscriminately. But surely to condemn Galatians 6:1 is taking matters too far.

Yes, I like this comment from hgp very much. It’s an entirely valid way of looking at things. Jehovah’s Witnesses are united. Churches (in almost all cases typified by trinitarian belief) are not. If they were, Russia’s “trinitarian” soldiers (the vast bulk of the Russian population holds to the ROC faith, though they’re not necessarily active) would simply not turn weapons upon their fellow Christians. 
Only this bit of hyperbole undermines the remark some:
They’re usually not “happy” about it. But they do it nonetheless, and that makes the point even more powerful. The Witnesses’ love for God and fellow man, fortified by a united human organization, prevents them from picking up arms against their fellow man. Many there are in ‘Christendom’—perhaps even most, who are basically decent people, desirous of peace. But because they don’t have the same principles and unity of Jehovah’s Witnesses, the national ‘king’ finds them easy to maneuver to support whatever is the warlike project of the day.

It does make you wonder whether outrageous Dimitar is really a Witness, though. I have never known any JW to think that Paul was a tax collector.
A result of absent mindedness maybe. But a misread of the NWT glossary—no. Not if he is really a Witness who goes back as far as he claims to. Everyone knows who the tax collector was.

It’s as if I using you. Sorry. 
But really, I would not know of his diatribes otherwise. I recommend the course to anyone concerned for their blood pressure. I mean, I’ve got stuff I want to do. Who needs the continual low-level aggravation? I don’t want this wasp stinging me all the time just for the sake of being—well, I have no idea what he is doing! Nobody can figure out his malignancy. Nor can I, but I’m done trying.

Dimitar: Of course! ‘Nothing else about my conduct suggests I am a Witness. Let me deliberately give some false information to see if anyone will pounce on that to attack me!’
Notice how I replied to this remark of Dmitar’s through JWI? Wanna know why? The screenshot at bottom tells it all.
Ah….now life is so peaceful. I mean really. 520 notifications within a month?! Plainly the guy is mentally ill. That’s not so bad in itself. I have suspected that of others here. But combined with his attack-dog malignant paranoid remarks that so often make no sense whatsoever,  it is simply too much. But now I am freeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!

It does make you wonder whether outrageous Dimitar is really a Witness, though. I have never known any JW to think that Paul was a tax collector.
A result of absent mindedness maybe. But a misread of the NWT glossary—no. Not if he is really a Witness who goes back as far as he claims to. Everyone knows who the tax collector was.

Not to worry. You’re good here—I mean, relatively.

Besides, unless I am very mistaken (which is possible—there’s only so much you can discern online) you have broken that pattern by softening somewhat. Otherwise, I agree with you that no one has budged one iota.
That makes you the least calcified of all here!
you ‘ol pork chop

Ha! Yeah, like another one who regularly complains of “no spirituality here” and yet shows up as reliably as the rising sun.
Shakespeare it ain’t but if it is a complete waste of time what does that say about the person who constantly attends to it?