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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    Come come. Add hypersensitivity to the list.
    Jesus nailed through the hands or wrists? That’s your crisis of faith that causes you to patiently wait?
    Who cares? If he was shot with a gun it wouldn’t change the meaning & results of his death, and that’s what you should focus on.
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Anna in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    It is. You needlessly complicate it by being overly exacting, excessively unforgiving, and too enamored with your own righteousness.
    “NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?”
    They can’t. They need a True Anointed to explain everything. In the meantime, it’s important not to do anything except complain.
    Whatever happened to “Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door?” (Luke 13:24) He didn’t say wait for the doorman to ease your way in.
     
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Dmitar in Vaccine time   
    This is why I am careful not to get into squabbles over it. I may post something that seems to me of substance, but if people disagree, I do not get into it. 
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Dmitar in Vaccine time   
    It’s not so much that your question triggered my upvote. What triggered my upvote is that @The Librarian loved it. She almost never weighs in—her voice has become as rare as the voice of God in the days of Samuel—but she weighs in now.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Dmitar in Vaccine time   
    Should that happen, you know they will not be cheap. 
    The doctor who wrote the White House with the medical regimen that quickly cured Trump from Covid thinks there will some day be the equivalent of Nuremberg trials for those who let hundreds of thousands die by discrediting and even withholding treatment of an eminently treatable disease.
    One day it was announced he had Covid and everyone thought he was a goner. Within three days he was back to his traveling routine. 
    Several doctors testified passionately before Congress that it make available certain low-cost drugs that had proven hugely effective. “If you take this drug, [ivermecin—in combination with some others] you will not get sick,” said Dr. Pierre Kors. He knew this because he had made his staff take it as they treated hundreds of Covid patients and they had not gotten sick.
    Despite testimony of these ones, the drugs have been discredited. Hydroxychloroquine was shot down long ago on the grounds of being unsafe, even though it had proven its safety over the course of decades. Ivermectin was also promptly shot down as some studies using wildly inappropriate dosages produced inconclusive results. 
    Why? One theory is that only if there is no way to treat Covid can there be an international emergency crash program for a new vaccine. Maybe profit reasons for pharma? Or something more conspiratorial? That’s where the conspiracy people come in—trying to explain it. But the fact that the disease is readily treatable has been testified by many practicing doctors. (Including my own)
    It was also pointed out that none of the epidemiologists advising the president had ever actually treated a patient. This denigration of those who walk the walk in favor of those who talk the talk is something many Witnesses are familiar with.
    None of this is to say that the vaccine is not good. That’s a whole different topic. But the emergency atmosphere to develop it, and now perhaps additional (expensive) cures was contrived and appears to be unnecessary 
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Dmitar in Vaccine time   
    But if you exclude him that way you’ll miss out on his hysterical anti-JW tirades!
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Dmitar in Vaccine time   
    I also don’t get into this much because it is not the main issue. If it is something that can get people sick in the long run—well, throw it on the stack. We all get sick in the long run.
    The main thing for Witnesses is to focus on announcing the incoming kingdom under which no one will say ‘I am sick.’
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Dmitar in Vaccine time   
    Only partially, I would say. Just because the CDC did not admit it does not mean it is not so. It reminds me of situations in which the refusal of blood transfusion is a factor. If I person fell into a meat grinder, emerging as hamburger, and thereafter refused a blood transfusion, that refusal is the cause of death, at least as far as the media is concerned. So it appears to be with comorbidities when one of them is Covid.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Space Merchant in Vaccine time   
    I also don’t get into this much because it is not the main issue. If it is something that can get people sick in the long run—well, throw it on the stack. We all get sick in the long run.
    The main thing for Witnesses is to focus on announcing the incoming kingdom under which no one will say ‘I am sick.’
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from JW Insider in Vaccine time   
    This is why I am careful not to get into squabbles over it. I may post something that seems to me of substance, but if people disagree, I do not get into it. 
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    I get it that I am being tagged, and I appreciate the apparent vote of confidence. But I think it is pretty clear that with PSomH you are dealing with a dodo whose inability to talk or see sense, not just on JW things but on many things in general, can cause people to pull their hair out, as it is with you.  
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Thinking in Vaccine time   
    I also don’t get into this much because it is not the main issue. If it is something that can get people sick in the long run—well, throw it on the stack. We all get sick in the long run.
    The main thing for Witnesses is to focus on announcing the incoming kingdom under which no one will say ‘I am sick.’
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Space Merchant in Vaccine time   
    Only partially, I would say. Just because the CDC did not admit it does not mean it is not so. It reminds me of situations in which the refusal of blood transfusion is a factor. If I person fell into a meat grinder, emerging as hamburger, and thereafter refused a blood transfusion, that refusal is the cause of death, at least as far as the media is concerned. So it appears to be with comorbidities when one of them is Covid.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Pudgy in Vaccine time   
    Only partially, I would say. Just because the CDC did not admit it does not mean it is not so. It reminds me of situations in which the refusal of blood transfusion is a factor. If I person fell into a meat grinder, emerging as hamburger, and thereafter refused a blood transfusion, that refusal is the cause of death, at least as far as the media is concerned. So it appears to be with comorbidities when one of them is Covid.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Pudgy in Vaccine time   
    This is the most thorough collection of reasons I have yet seen—everything under one roof.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from xero in Vaccine time   
    Should that happen, you know they will not be cheap. 
    The doctor who wrote the White House with the medical regimen that quickly cured Trump from Covid thinks there will some day be the equivalent of Nuremberg trials for those who let hundreds of thousands die by discrediting and even withholding treatment of an eminently treatable disease.
    One day it was announced he had Covid and everyone thought he was a goner. Within three days he was back to his traveling routine. 
    Several doctors testified passionately before Congress that it make available certain low-cost drugs that had proven hugely effective. “If you take this drug, [ivermecin—in combination with some others] you will not get sick,” said Dr. Pierre Kors. He knew this because he had made his staff take it as they treated hundreds of Covid patients and they had not gotten sick.
    Despite testimony of these ones, the drugs have been discredited. Hydroxychloroquine was shot down long ago on the grounds of being unsafe, even though it had proven its safety over the course of decades. Ivermectin was also promptly shot down as some studies using wildly inappropriate dosages produced inconclusive results. 
    Why? One theory is that only if there is no way to treat Covid can there be an international emergency crash program for a new vaccine. Maybe profit reasons for pharma? Or something more conspiratorial? That’s where the conspiracy people come in—trying to explain it. But the fact that the disease is readily treatable has been testified by many practicing doctors. (Including my own)
    It was also pointed out that none of the epidemiologists advising the president had ever actually treated a patient. This denigration of those who walk the walk in favor of those who talk the talk is something many Witnesses are familiar with.
    None of this is to say that the vaccine is not good. That’s a whole different topic. But the emergency atmosphere to develop it, and now perhaps additional (expensive) cures was contrived and appears to be unnecessary 
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from xero in Vaccine time   
    This is why I am careful not to get into squabbles over it. I may post something that seems to me of substance, but if people disagree, I do not get into it. 
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from xero in Vaccine time   
    It’s not so much that your question triggered my upvote. What triggered my upvote is that @The Librarian loved it. She almost never weighs in—her voice has become as rare as the voice of God in the days of Samuel—but she weighs in now.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Dmitar in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    It is true that all faiths have their apostates. An apostate of the Mormons, for example, is not what JWs would consider an apostate. What we do know is apostates were a preoccupation of the New Testament writers. Not one of them fails to mention them. Peter is especially concerned with them. Jude is exclusively devoted to them and deals with nothing else. 
    If it was true then, it should be true today. And nobody has apostates as voracious as Jehovah’s Witnesses. I am proud of them. They validate us. They do indeed make trouble, just as they did in the first century. On the other hand, what if the Witnesses had no apostates? Wouldn’t you have to wonder why?
    As to the majority going the atheist route, that is just an impression hard to escape upon going to areas in which they hang out. The most visible ones on social media are undoubtably atheist, scornful of their former faith but also of God. It is in accord with the general trend of society that leans atheist. I don’t know if anyone has actually made a survey of it to find out the exact proportion.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Dmitar in Like the Days of Noah...   
    It is even worse in “A Golfer’s Story.” The lead character, Jack Bogey, defines the term as when you par out a hole in a very short time.
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Dmitar in NAILS OR NAIL, HANDS OR WRISTS, AND OTHER SUCH SCRIPTURES. HOW DO CHRISTIANS KNOW WHAT IS TRUE ?   
    I get it that I am being tagged, and I appreciate the apparent vote of confidence. But I think it is pretty clear that with PSomH you are dealing with a dodo whose inability to talk or see sense, not just on JW things but on many things in general, can cause people to pull their hair out, as it is with you.  
  22. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Thinking in Vaccine time   
    This is why I am careful not to get into squabbles over it. I may post something that seems to me of substance, but if people disagree, I do not get into it. 
  23. Upvote
    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Thinking in Vaccine time   
    Should that happen, you know they will not be cheap. 
    The doctor who wrote the White House with the medical regimen that quickly cured Trump from Covid thinks there will some day be the equivalent of Nuremberg trials for those who let hundreds of thousands die by discrediting and even withholding treatment of an eminently treatable disease.
    One day it was announced he had Covid and everyone thought he was a goner. Within three days he was back to his traveling routine. 
    Several doctors testified passionately before Congress that it make available certain low-cost drugs that had proven hugely effective. “If you take this drug, [ivermecin—in combination with some others] you will not get sick,” said Dr. Pierre Kors. He knew this because he had made his staff take it as they treated hundreds of Covid patients and they had not gotten sick.
    Despite testimony of these ones, the drugs have been discredited. Hydroxychloroquine was shot down long ago on the grounds of being unsafe, even though it had proven its safety over the course of decades. Ivermectin was also promptly shot down as some studies using wildly inappropriate dosages produced inconclusive results. 
    Why? One theory is that only if there is no way to treat Covid can there be an international emergency crash program for a new vaccine. Maybe profit reasons for pharma? Or something more conspiratorial? That’s where the conspiracy people come in—trying to explain it. But the fact that the disease is readily treatable has been testified by many practicing doctors. (Including my own)
    It was also pointed out that none of the epidemiologists advising the president had ever actually treated a patient. This denigration of those who walk the walk in favor of those who talk the talk is something many Witnesses are familiar with.
    None of this is to say that the vaccine is not good. That’s a whole different topic. But the emergency atmosphere to develop it, and now perhaps additional (expensive) cures was contrived and appears to be unnecessary 
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    TrueTomHarley got a reaction from Thinking in Vaccine time   
    This is the most thorough collection of reasons I have yet seen—everything under one roof.
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    TrueTomHarley reacted to Pudgy in Vaccine time   
    What does that mean, in common sense English?
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