The slave is using this photo to make it clear what is not allowed in the dress of men for meetings and preaching.

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

2 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

In purpose to avoid endless arguing and imposing some people attitudes on what is Christian acceptable dress and what is not, about Fashion and Clothes, God created naked people  ;))))

Are you ready for a New World and this kind of Fashion style? :)))

I am a big fan of women's Ferengi fashions.  

But not for Ferengi women.

QUARK: Would somebody please tell me what's going on?

ISHKA: It's one of those good news bad news type of things. Give them the good news first.

ZEK: If you insist. Three days ago, I added a new amendment to the Ferengi Bill of Opportunities giving females the right to wear clothes.

ROM: In public?

ISHKA: Anywhere we want.

QUARK: That can't be the good news. If Ferengi females can wear clothes in public, then they can leave their homes. If they can leave their homes, they can go to work. If they can go to work, they can make profit.

ISHKA: What's the matter, Quark? Afraid of a little competition?

 

 

[JOHN BUTLER]

2 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

 

Adam and Eve by Rubens.

 

Adam and Eve by Watchtower

 

Jew woman clothing

 

Jew male clothing

 

Jew family fashion

 

..... some casual style here

Yes one thing that I've always considered wrong (but who am i to judge) is that all men are supposed to dress in 'Western style fashion'. No not Wild west fashion. And at assemblies in Twickenham UK, on the last day of the assembly,  some overseas bros and sis are 'allowed' to walk around the 'arena' in their 'native costumes'. Why shouldn't people be allowed to wear the clothes they would normally wear in their own countries, as long as it's decent of course, all the time. 

[JJJ-AUSTRALIA]

Oh well, as long what inwear and my wife wears is decent enough im happy with it, if others disapproves thats their problem. Lol

[sami]

@James Thomas Rook Jr. I remember when I used to attend Catholic school and church, the girls had to wear head coverings and dresses, the hem of which had to be below the knees. The boys had to wear shirts, ties and slacks. It was called respect for where you were and standing before God in modesty. Then as the churches began to loose so many parishioners and the pews became empty, the hierarchy gave up the idea of modesty and decorum and now allows men and women to wear shorts, T shirts, flip flops, hair curlers and no head coverings.

I read an article, a few months back, where med students did a study taking swabs of chairs in public places, seats in theaters and on public transportation and various other public places and they found feces, blood, urine and other various bodily fluids on a mass scale. It may be cute and titillating to see a girl walking around and bending over while in her preferred attire, however, most people gag at what they may be exposing themselves to.

Lack of respect and lack of modesty for God and your fellow man is at the crux of the matter. Everyone has freedom, freewill to do what is within their purview as acceptable. But if one calls themselves a Witness of Jehovah, their metamorphosis must be complete as to Christian dress, grooming, behavior and as the apostle Paul admonishes at Romans 12: 2 "Do not copy the behavior and customs of this world, but let God transform you into a new person by changing the way you think. (WHY?)  Then you will learn to know God's will for you, which is good and pleasing and perfect."

WE do not have to be exposed to a piece of cloth stretched across  someone's genitals to know he's a male, we do not have to be exposed to a thong and bare behind to know we are in the company of a female. We do not need hypocrites, with their pretend piety and lips dripping  death dealing venom, in our midst when there are hundreds of "come as YOU are and do what YOU want" religions available to them.

 

[JOHN BUTLER]

1 hour ago, sami said:

@James Thomas Rook Jr. I remember when I used to attend Catholic school and church, the girls had to wear head coverings and dresses, the hem of which had to be below the knees. The boys had to wear shirts, ties and slacks. It was called respect for where you were and standing before God in modesty. Then as the churches began to loose so many parishioners and the pews became empty, the hierarchy gave up the idea of modesty and decorum and now allows men and women to wear shorts, T shirts, flip flops, hair curlers and no head coverings.

I read an article, a few months back, where med students did a study taking swabs of chairs in public places, seats in theaters and on public transportation and various other public places and they found feces, blood, urine and other various bodily fluids on a mass scale. It may be cute and titillating to see a girl walking around and bending over while in her preferred attire, however, most people gag at what they may be exposing themselves to.

Lack of respect and lack of modesty for God and your fellow man is at the crux of the matter. Everyone has freedom, freewill to do what is within their purview as acceptable. But if one calls themselves a Witness of Jehovah, their metamorphosis must be complete as to Christian dress, grooming, behavior and as the apostle Paul admonishes at Romans 12: 2 "Do not copy the behavior and customs of this world, but let God transform you into a new person by changing the way you think. (WHY?)  Then you will learn to know God's will for you, which is good and pleasing and perfect."

WE do not have to be exposed to a piece of cloth stretched across  someone's genitals to know he's a male, we do not have to be exposed to a thong and bare behind to know we are in the company of a female. We do not need hypocrites, with their pretend piety and lips dripping  death dealing venom, in our midst when there are hundreds of "come as YOU are and do what YOU want" religions available to them.

 

I agree with modesty but not with the 'traditions of men'. 

The suit and tie is from the world isn't it ? So when it suits the GB to follow the world then it's ok is it ? 

If people cannot see beyond clothing then they have poor judgement. 

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

2 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

If people cannot see beyond clothing then they have poor judgement. 

I think this is the crux of the matter.

In an Engineering Office, you know when a client's project has been totally screwed up and gone over budget ... when management starts stressing the dress code of suits and ties for all employees ... as if that will impress  an over billed client that the Engineering Firm's management  are competent.

This is based on the idea that the client is SO STUPID that they will think clowns stop being clowns because they have changed costumes.

I was working on a project in Cincinnati, Ohio ... 945 people in two large four-story buildings ... when the client we were doing work for locally and all the way to China, got fed up with TRYING to be taken for a fool, and fired our firm.  

In 30 days it went from 945 people to less than 30 people, and within a year they had to close the office.

Everybody in the office knew what the problem really was ... EXCEPT MANAGEMENT.

[sami]

@JOHN BUTLER "Traditions of men" are the designers of the couture of the day. Whatever a so called fashion house thinks will sell. Those are the traditions of men which have nothing to do with being modest but blatantly immodest.  Are the designers looking to please God or their pocket book?

There is a wide variety of styles and/or colors that can be chosen as long as the clothing is not revealing breasts or emphasizing genitalia. However, "traditions of men" do not follow those guidelines. The apostle councils "Obey your spiritual leaders, and what they say. Their work is to watch over your souls, and they are accountable to God. Give them reason to do this with joy and not with sorrow. That would certainly not be for your benefit."

Acts 20:28 " Pay attention to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the holy spirit has appointed YOU overseers, to shepherd the congregation of God, which he purchased with the blood of his own [Son].

I must emphasize that the door opens the same whether your going out or coming in. The world welcomes all those who desire to look as though they are wearing their baby brother's clothing. "Traditions" are waiting for you on the other side of the door.

The Governing Body is there to do oversight of Jehovah's organization, just as in the first century. If you can speak 930 languages, send out thousands of envoys into 240 lands - then feel free, no one is stopping you. If you can build Bethel homes and translation facilities, If you can care for disaster relief for millions then have at it.

But markedly, those who constantly find fault with the "Governing Body, The Slave" do not leave because they want to preserve their complaining behinds. They actually think that they will be preserved alive through the tribulation and that Jehovah has not already read their hearts. Free Will, The Choice is yours.

[sami]

@James Thomas Rook Jr. EXCEPT, the Slave's existence does not depend on pacifying a client, employee or volunteer. Their continued success (since 1870) Is Jehovah's spirit. Prospective volunteers continue to fill out applications and flock to Jehovah's organization. The Governing Body is directed by Jehovah himself. The problem isn't modest dress it is the corrupted reasoning by apostates. Nit picking, whiners mirror 1914 and what happened to those who tried to bring in apostate teaching and thinking? The were cast out/ thrown out where they still fought amongst themselves until they split into several splinter groups which are never ever heard from.

   @James Thomas Rook Jr. Everybody in the office knew what the problem really was ... EXCEPT MANAGEMENT.

WOW!! Is that meant to be a threat? I'm sure the Slave will take your rebellious diatribe under consideration. If one is not part of the sheep fold, its because the shepherd did not call their name.

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

Sami:

Since you misunderstand EVERYTHING ... I will quote you the words of fictional wise sage Lex Luthor, played by Gene Hackman in the first Superman Movie, circa 1978.

Chewing gum wrapper.mp4

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

3 hours ago, sami said:

Their continued success (since 1870) Is Jehovah's spirit.

Actually, I agree with you on that one.

There is no other rational explanation among intelligent, thinking people.

The LORD knows that, and I know that ... otherwise they would have been laughed off the stage a long time ago.

The clueless ATTRACT the clueless .... but with Google, it has reached a critical time when people in general are getting smarter ... and it is a REAL problem. A VERY real problem in credibility, but not among the clueless, AS THE MONEY KEEPS ROLLING IN .... no matter WHAT is said or done.

Think I am exaggerating?

Here are two classic examples for your review.

Sami - I would appreciate your review and considered opinion of what you are hearing here from the Governing Body.

 

2 CHAIR pORNEA .mp4Lett on Gravity, Electricity, wind .mp4

[JJJ-AUSTRALIA]

Really...! Did he just said video 1 option 2 is not pornea? So if i musturbate in front of a brother or a sister is not pornea....! And if there isnt a second witness involve not case either.... ?

 

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

... somebody must have it on video tape ....  and this is "cover".