MOJ CANT FIND THEIR OWN VERSION OF EXTREMISM IN OUR LITERATURE...WHY?

[bruceq]

    AS EVERYONE KNOWS JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES HAVE FOR MANY MANY DECADES BEEN WARNING OF THE DESTRUCTION OF FALSE RELIGION. NOW EXTREMISM ACCORDING TO THE RUSSIAN LAWS WOULD BE 1 - TO CALL A RELIGION "FALSE" AND 2 - TO SAY IT WILL BE "DESTROYED".. IT IS EVERYWHERE IN NEARLY ALL OUR LITERATURE {over 7,000 times for "false religion" phrase alone }. YET THE MINISTRY OF JUSTICE CANNOT FIND ANY !!!! WOW. I THINK THE ANGELS ARE PREVENTING THEM FROM SEEING ANY IN ACCORDANCE TO ACTS 12: :⁶  When Herod was about to bring him out, that night Peter was sleeping bound with two chains between two soldiers, and guards in front of the door were keeping watch over the prison. ⁷  But look! Jehovah’s* angel was standing there,+ and a light shone in the prison cell. Hitting Peter on the side, he woke him, saying: “Get up quickly!” And the chains fell off his hands.+ ⁸  The angel said to him: “Get dressed* and put on your sandals.” He did so. Finally he said to him: “Put your outer garment on, and keep following me.” ⁹  And he went out and kept following him, but he did not know that what was happening through the angel was real. In fact, he thought he was seeing a vision. ¹⁰  Going past the first sentinel guard and the second, they reached the iron gate leading into the city, and this opened to them by itself. After they went out, they made their way down one street, and immediately the angel departed from him. ¹¹  And Peter, realizing what was happening, said: “Now I know for sure that Jehovah* sent his angel and rescued me from Herod’s hand and from everything that the Jews were expecting to happen.”+

CRITICS AND OPPOSERS ARE POWERLESS BEFORE ALMIGHTY GOD.

10 There was an impressive example of angelic support in the days of Elisha the prophet. Elisha was staying in Dothan, a city in Israel. One day when Elisha’s servant got up early in the morning and looked outside, he saw that the city was surrounded by horses and war chariots. The king of Syria had sent a powerful military force to capture Elisha. How did Elisha’s attendant react? Fearful, perhaps panic-stricken, he cried out: “Alas, my master! What shall we do?” To him, all seemed lost. But Elisha answered: “Do not be afraid, for there are more who are with us than those who are with them.” What did he mean?—2 Kings 6:11-16.
11 Elisha was aware that angelic hosts were present to support him. However, his servant saw nothing. So “Elisha began to pray and say: ‘O Jehovah, open his eyes, please, that he may see.’ Immediately Jehovah opened the attendant’s eyes, so that he saw; and, look! the mountainous region was full of horses and war chariots of fire all around Elisha.” (2 Kings 6:17) The attendant could then see the angelic hosts. With spiritual insight, we too can perceive that angels, all under the direction of Jehovah and Christ, lend support and protection to Jehovah’s people. 2 Kings 6
 

Can anyone come up with more examples? Like when the angels guarding Jesus tomb didn't see anything happen...

[bruceq]

HERE IS JUST SOME OF THE MORE OBVIOUS PROBLEMS THAT THE RUSSIAN MINISTRY OF JUSTICE  HAS. REMEMBER THEY ARE THE GOVERNMENT WITH THEIR EXPERT LAWYERS. BUT WHY ARE THEY LOOKING LIKE "THIS" FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD TO SEE:

"The Ministry of Justice does not have accurate data"

 "Representative natural question: "Why is the Ministry of Justice did not submit these documents to the court?"

 "Reacting to evidence presented by the defense, the judge requested the Ministry of Justice to identify the specific legal basis for liquidating Jehovah’s Witnesses’ Administrative Center. The attorneys for the Ministry of Justice were unable to provide a response to the judge’s request and other related questions".

"The judge asks if the Ministry of Justice has evidence of their allegations about medical treatment. The Ministry of Justice is not ready to provide them. The judge is again puzzled, because the Ministry of Justice most recently conducted a large-scale inspection of Jehovah's Witnesses and, if such facts were, they should have been identified".

"Lawyer Zhenkov begins to ask questions to the representative of the Ministry of Justice. The first question is: does the Justice Ministry have any information about any violations that were committed under the influence of the literature of Jehovah's Witnesses that was submitted to the FSEM. Answer from the Ministry's representative: "No, we do not have such information."

 "inclusion of certain materials in the FSEM? The Ministry of Justice knows. The next question: what, in the opinion of the Ministry, would be an effective measure? The Ministry of Justice does not know the exact answer to this question. The lawyer asks the representative of the Ministry of Justice whether there is such a criterion of extremist activity as inaction. It's obvious to everyone that there is no such criterion".

 "The Ministry of Justice can not provide facts confirming that during the last 12 months the Management Center distributed "extremist" literature".

"Omelchenko asks about federal forensic centers under the Russian Ministry of Justice. He points out that these centers came to diametrically opposite conclusions about the presence or absence of signs of extremism. Question of Omelchenko: how could this be possible. The representative of the Ministry does not know. The next question is: why did the Justice Ministry support only the negative conclusions of the experts and did not support the positive conclusions? Unknown. Was the Ministry of Justice initiating a review of the decisions in cases when there was such a contradiction? Representative of such facts are unknown."

"The judge asks the representative of the Ministry of Justice, on the basis of which they claim that the financing of the LRO by the Management Center is precisely the financing of "extremist activity"? What is objectively proved? If nothing, then what are the claims of the Ministry of Justice based on?"

AND MUCH MORE...

 

   OF COURSE THEY HAVE BASIS FOR THEIR CLAIMS AS THEY HAVE SHOWN OUT OF COURT EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE "BASELESS". BUT IN COURT THEY ARE SUDDENLY "SILENT" UNABLE TO DEFEND THERE OWN AGENDA. APOSTATES AND OPPOSERS MUST BE PULLING THERE HAIR OUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY THEY CANT PIN THE WITNESSES DOWN ON THESES SIMPLE THINGS.  ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS IF SOMEONE IS CRITICAL OF JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION OR PEOPLE THEN YOU BETTER BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE SOON BECAUSE JEHOVAH'S ANGEL IS OBVIOUSLY  HERE !!! "EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED" - AND HE WILL DO IT IN "STYLE". {DANIEL 6:22; ACTS 12:3-11;}

PSALM 91:9-16:" ⁹  Because you said: “Jehovah is my refuge,”You have made the Most High your dwelling;*+¹⁰  No disaster will befall you,+And no plague will come near your tent.¹¹  For he will give his angels+ a command concerning you,To guard you in all your ways.+¹²  They will carry you on their hands,+So that you may not strike your foot against a stone.+¹³  On the young lion and the cobra you will tread;You will trample underfoot the maned lion and the big snake.+¹⁴  God said: “Because he has affection for me,* I will rescue him.+I will protect him because he KNOWS MY NAME.+¹⁵  He will call on me, and I will answer him.+I will be with him in distress.+I will rescue him and glorify him.¹⁶  I will satisfy him with long life,+And I will cause him to see my acts of salvation.”*

"So, then, Jehovah* knows how to rescue people of godly devotion out of TRIAL,+ but to reserve unrighteous people to be destroyed* on the day of judgment," 2 Pet. 2:9

[bruceq]

FROM JW.ORG :"The Ministry has performed numerous inspections of the Witnesses’ legal entities and submitted volumes of these inspection reports to the Court. Yet, when questioned, the Ministry could not identify a single incident in which the Witnesses engaged in extremist activity.

During the review, the attorneys representing the Ministry of Justice could not specify a legal basis for targeting the Administrative Center for liquidation or any extremist action on the part of either the Administrative Center or any Local Religious Organizations (LROs) used by Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia.

THESE ARE VERY COMPETENT LAWYERS FOR RUSSIA YET THEY CANNOT "SEE" ANY EVIDENCE OR LEGAL BASIS TO BAN THEM.

ANGELIC INTERFERENCE FOR THE DEFENSE. DOWN TO THE ONE YARD LINE NOW.

[Evacuated]

10 minutes ago, bruceq said:

THESE ARE VERY COMPETENT LAWYERS FOR RUSSIA YET THEY CANNOT "SEE" ANY EVIDENCE OR LEGAL BASIS TO BAN THEM.

Because there isn't any. If they submit fabricated evidence for scrutiny, they will have a problem. Let's hope there is more justice in the Supreme Court than in the Ministry of.

I find it ironic that even some posters on this site seem to see evidence of extremism that the Russian lawyers cannot!

[bruceq]

Just now, Eoin Joyce said:

 

I find it ironic that even some posters on this site seem to see evidence of extremism that the Russian lawyers cannot!

YES WELL IT HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED THAT APOSTATES GAVE MUCH OF THE INFO THAT THE MINISTRY ARE USING. NO WONDER THEY ARE FAULTERING WHEN THEY TRY TO FIGHT AGAINST THE ONLY TRUE GOD.

[Anna]

What would be fantastic is if the final court transcript of the actual decision would be made public, because this would be a clear summary of the case, and clear explanation for the decision, (whichever way it goes) neatly packaged in a few pages. (But hopefully not translated by Google, I don't think I could take any more "little wives").

[bruceq]

3 minutes ago, Anna said:

. (But hopefully not translated by Google, I don't think I could take any more "little wives").

LOL 

[Bible Speaks]

@bruceq

COURSE THEY HAVE BASIS FOR THEIR CLAIMS AS THEY HAVE SHOWN OUT OF COURT EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE "BASELESS". BUT IN COURT THEY ARE SUDDENLY "SILENT" UNABLE TO DEFEND THERE OWN AGENDA. APOSTATES AND OPPOSERS MUST BE PULLING THERE HAIR OUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY THEY CANT PIN THE WITNESSES DOWN ON THESES SIMPLE THINGS.  ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS IF SOMEONE IS CRITICAL OF JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION OR PEOPLE THEN YOU BETTER BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE SOON BECAUSE JEHOVAH'S ANGEL IS OBVIOUSLY  HERE !!! "EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED" - AND HE WILL DO IT IN "STYLE". {DANIEL 6:22; ACTS 12:3-11;}

TWO EXAMPLES OF JEHOVAH PROTECTING HIS PEOPLE! Have more if you need? ???

Czech Republic

The ties of international brotherhood took on added meaning for Jehovah’s Witnesses in the Czech Republic in 1998. International conventions featuring the theme “God’s Way of Life” were being held around the globe.

However, on more than one occasion, Jehovah blinded the eyes of those who wanted to cause harm to his servants. Brother Mařák, from Plzeň, recalls: “I was then serving as a field overseer. And in a cabinet with glass doors, I had a large envelope containing service reports, donations, and a list of the names of all the elders and ministerial servants. When the men conducting the search approached the cabinet, my wife looked at me and began silently begging Jehovah for help. The men peered through the glass right at the large gray envelope, but it was as if their eyes were blinded and they did not see it. We thanked Jehovah from the bottom of our hearts for this protection.”

Romania

The Bible foretold that persecution of true Christians would reach a climax during the last days. (Gen. 3:15; Rev. 12:13, 17) Romania is a land where that prophecy has seen striking fulfillment. Yet, as this account will show, Jehovah’s Witnesses in Romania have let nothing extinguish the flame of truth that burns brightly in the hearts of God’s people. (Jer. 20:9) Rather, they have recommended themselves “as God’s ministers, by the endurance of much, by tribulations, by cases of need, by difficulties, by beatings, by prisons.” (2 Cor. 6:4, 5) May their record of integrity encourage all who desire to walk with God during these difficult times.

Jehovah Blinded the Enemy

Ana Viusencu

Born: 1951

Baptized: 1965

Profile: From her early teens, she helped her parents duplicate literature. Later, she shared in translating publications into Ukrainian.

One day in 1968, I was hand copying a Watchtower onto paper stencils for duplication. Not thinking, I failed to hide the stencils when I went out to a Christian meeting. As soon as I arrived home at midnight, I heard a car stop. Before I could see who it was, five Securitate agents, armed with a search warrant, entered the house. I was terrified but managed to maintain my composure. At the same time, I implored Jehovah to forgive me for my carelessness, promising that I would never leave work out again.

The officer in charge sat down at the table right next to the papers, which I had hastily covered with a cloth when I heard the car stop. He stayed there until the inspection was finished a few hours later. While writing up his report—just inches from the stencils—he tidied up the cloth on a number of occasions. His report stated that the agents had found no banned literature in the house or on any person.

Bible Speaks ???

[bruceq]

perfect. if you can provide more please do. thank you very much.