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[TrueTomHarley]

2 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

IT IS A DEBATE ... and that is how adults sift out bad ideas, and set them aside .. on the intellectual battlefield...

Debate is sometimes a war of attrition ... until the last of the opponent's ideas are individually squashed.  That is basically how the "Scientific Method" works...

You cannot LEAVE THE BATTLEFIELD while the opponents' army of ideas are still standing erect and strong.

"If any man teaches another doctrine and does not agree with the wholesome instruction, which is from our Lord Jesus Christ, nor with the teaching that is in harmony with godly devotion...he is obsessed with arguments and debates about words".....(1 Timothy 6:3-4)

"Further, reject foolish and ignorant debates"... (2 Timothy 2:2)

"So I desire that in every place the men carry on prayer...without anger and debates"...1 Timothy 2:8

2 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

like turning over your King, half way through a chess game.

Since I am constrained to follow scripture, I am overturning my king. 

2 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

I can see BOTH viewpoints

Excellent! You debate my side. Let me know how it turns out. Argue hard. Don't be stupid. I don't want to lose this one.

[TrueTomHarley]

I CHALLENGE  @The Librarian TO A DEBATE!!!!

YES, YOU HEARD ME, YOU OLD BATTLEAXE!!! A DEBATE!!!

THAT"S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO SETTLE THIS! RIGHT HERE! RIGHT NOW!

A DEBATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JTR WILL REFEREE!

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

You have already conceded, True (Tom), by default, for leaving the battlefield, and by surrender, when you "overturned your King".

Using YOUR logic, you have  self-forfeited the right to disagree with anybody about anything .... and only think approved happy thoughts.

You cannot even reply to THIS!

Stupidity would be to referee a fight already lost.

[TrueTomHarley]

11 minutes ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

You have already conceded, True (Tom), by default, for leaving the battlefield, and by surrender, when you "overturned your King".

Using YOUR logic, you have  self-forfeited the right to disagree with anybody about anything .... and only think approved happy thoughts.

You cannot even reply to THIS!

Stupidity would be to referee a fight already lost.

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Even so, with you referee for me when I take on the Librarian in DEBATE, the ugly old hag? 

IT IS SHE WHO STARTED THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!

CONFISCATING MY LIGHTER! ALL I WAS DOING WAS LIGHTING THE CANDLES ON MY BIRTHDAY CAKE.

LAST WEEK I TRIED TO LIGHT ALL THE MANY CANDLES ON HER CAKE AND THE LIGHTER RAN OUT OF FUEL!!!

Once again, James, you must turn that frown upside down. I'm too peaceful to debate.

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

I would have to know more about the subject being debated .. I may not be an impartial judge, or referee .... if you intend to challenge him on some subject .. it should be until there is only one man standing. 

Among INTELLIGENT honest men of integrity, which I assume you both are, one will concede the debate points originally premised, and see the other is correct, WITHOUT THE NEED TO APPEAL TO AN OUTSIDE AUTHORITY FOR VALIDATION.

I WILL, however,  put my "two cents" in and help in my usual manner ...

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[The Librarian]

oh wow... I think I heard @TrueTomHarley throw his glove on the floor.

What exactly, pray tell, are you wishing to debate?

 

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

I think he needs to chill a bit, and take a handful of Blamitol (tm).

Blamitol edited higher res .mp4

[TrueTomHarley]

13 hours ago, The Librarian said:

oh wow... I think I heard @TrueTomHarley throw his glove on the floor.

What exactly, pray tell, are you wishing to debate?

 

 

My BOOKS, you old hen! You know it very well.

My BOOKS, written by the most astute mind of our times, a person who, despite being undeniably brilliant, is unfailingly respectful of all persons and scrupulously  avoids ad hominem attacks!

My BOOKS, you disgusting and ignorant, diuretec dinosaur! The ones you will not let me hawk in your library! They don't exactly fly off the shelf, you know, as they should, and as they WOULD but for not your petty rules!

My BOOKS, which I pluralize because there are two, soon to be three. The third would come even sooner if I did not piddle away so much of my time here! It must be conceded, however, that I am also writing much of it here, so the relationship is symbiotic.

My BOOKS, which you will only let me display on my profile page! My BOOKs, which ought to be required reading at your pathetic library, instead of the shelves upon shelves of the great philosophers down through the ages! If any of the thoughts they thunk were worth the paper they were printed on, it would be a much better world today, wouldn't it?

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

It's a good thing I know how to Moonwalk ....

[TrueTomHarley]

On 6/2/2017 at 9:06 PM, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

I especially liked your treatment of Mickey Spillane

The reason I wrote about Mickey more than I ever intended to is that, the more I learned about him, the more I thought he would make such a cool Grandpa. He had that irresistible combination that typified so many old-time Witnesses of the previous generation: an unfailing good nature - he liked people, plus and absolute lack of pretense.

I put him in the Tom Irregardless book, too. It was Ivor E. Tower's (George Chryssides) favorite part:

“My favourite part of the book was the parody of Mickey Spillane near the end, where Tom Harley envisages a house-to-house publisher acting like one of Spillane’s macho characters. For those who don’t know, Spillane was a novelist whose books were renowned for their sex and violence, until Spillane converted to become a Jehovah’s Witness in 1951 – a decision that drastically changed his writing style."

On Twitter, I follow his wife, who was much younger than Mickey. She is intensely political and a strong supporter of a certain blond politician who is in the news a lot. (she says Mickey was that way, too)

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

I consider Mickey Spillane and myself to be kindred spirits .... he carried a 1911 .45 cal. pistol at all times, but I carry a .38 Special S&W with less power at all times.

I positively gushed when I learned that an elderly Brother in the Congregation  knew him personally, went to his Congregation, and had lunch many times at his house.   I don't gush very easily, and almost never.

In MY generation ... he was at least as  famous as Michael Jackson ...., and although many will not be able to understand why I think so ... with his personality he HAD to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses, and was to all reports, faithful until his death.

... and by today's standards, his writing was quite tame.

At one time, the line "Frankly Scarlet, I don't give a damn!" ..... was scandalous.

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[TrueTomHarley]

Finally, Finally, Finally I may be able to relate to JTR on something.

1 hour ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

and by today's standards, his writing was quite tame.

Was it?

"I snapped the side of the rod across his jaw and laid the flesh open to the bone. I pounded his teeth back into his mouth with the end of the barrel ... and I took my own damn time about kicking him in the face. He smashed into the door and lay there bubbling. So I kicked him again and he stopped bubbling."